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(10-09-2016, 12:58 AM)Barba Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, what are you working on at the moment (besides DMSI) and if/when next verions of AM, SM, WM can be expected?

Thanks.

I am working on overcoming the oddly high level of exhaustion I feel all the time lately... trying to work on 6G prototype, DMSI, MIR2... not getting very far very fast. I wake up feeling like I need to go to sleep lately. I think this may be the aftermath of the chickenpox, but I don't know why that would be.
(10-09-2016, 01:24 AM)ffaux Wrote: [ -> ]Does anything in AM deal directly with giving myself unconditional approval and letting go of disapproval of myself and others?

If memory serves, it deals directly with giving self unconditional approval and letting go of self disapproval, but does nothing about disapproval of others.
(10-09-2016, 07:07 AM)Bookstacks DC737 Wrote: [ -> ]When you say you're not going to add additional energy sources do you mean you're not going to seek out any additional energy sources that we haven't previously tried? Or that re-enabling the energy sources that were in versions 2.2 and 2.3 are difficult?

I mean I am going to leave the script alone except to disable the clearing aspects. It's not a matter of re-enabling old sources, it's a matter of re-working the entire script to include and handle them. Energy sourcing is a very deeply rooted and complex part of the script. Each such change requires a LOT of modeling and script work. So between that and the information loss by changing it... I am not going to change it in 2.4/2.5
(10-09-2016, 11:14 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-09-2016, 07:07 AM)Bookstacks DC737 Wrote: [ -> ]When you say you're not going to add additional energy sources do you mean you're not going to seek out any additional energy sources that we haven't previously tried? Or that re-enabling the energy sources that were in versions 2.2 and 2.3 are difficult?

I mean I am going to leave the script alone except to disable the clearing aspects. It's not a matter of re-enabling old sources, it's a matter of re-working the entire script to include and handle them. Energy sourcing is a very deeply rooted and complex part of the script. Each such change requires a LOT of modeling and script work. So between that and the information loss by changing it... I am not going to change it in 2.4/2.5

Ah okay, gotcha. I was under the assumption that the energy sourcing was just an on/off thing like the clearing.
Shannon, quick question for you. How much of a difference would 2.3 and a possible 2.5 have if you were to disable the healing scripts from 2.4?

Also, if you were to release a 2.5, when would you be considering it for release?

I've had the plan to stay on DMSI 2.4 for up to 45 days, so I have 10 days left before I re-evaluate whether I stay on it or go back to 2.3. I was just curious about the differences because if you are going to release a 2.5, and the scripting would be fairly different than 2.3, than I will probably move to that rather than go back to 2.3 after my 45 day run.
What's the point of no healing modules, again? Didn't we already do that for the "I told you so" no-healing-module-version V2.3?

If people aren't getting the results in V2.4, V2.5 with no healing as the only difference, isn't likely to change that. If V2.5 only has no healing as the sole difference, I don't see the benefit in switching to it. Seems like a waste of time when I may be at least able to get some healing benefits continuing on V2.4 to make the next version work properly. I'm not getting the program goal on V2.4 with healing, so I doubt without healing I'll fare any better.

There are like two people here who are anti-healing, one of whom has left the forum it seems, sadly. But, it doesn't seem reasonable or beneficial to shortchange everyone else here just to make a second "I told you so" version. Especially when V2.3 already exists for them to use if they're so dead set on no healing, so tell them to put their money where their mouth is and use it. It's strange to see such resistance to healing modules, especially since they are short circuiting in nature when not needed, so they literally aren't impeding you in any way. This could all just be them trying to resist dealing with whatever they have buried underneath, though.

Let's not waste yet another month or more on a *second* "I told you so" version of the program, just to bare out what almost all of us already know.
(10-09-2016, 11:45 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]What's the point of no healing modules, again? Didn't we already do that for the "I told you so" no-healing-module-version V2.3?

If people aren't getting the results in V2.4, V2.5 with no healing as the only difference, isn't likely to change that. If V2.5 only has no healing as the sole difference, I don't see the benefit in switching to it. Seems like a waste of time when I may be at least able to get some healing benefits continuing on V2.4 to make the next version work properly. I'm not getting the program goal on V2.4 with healing, so I doubt without healing I'll fare any better.

There are like two people here who are anti-healing, one of whom has left the forum it seems, sadly. But, it doesn't seem reasonable or beneficial to shortchange everyone else here just to make a second "I told you so" version. Especially when V2.3 already exists for them to use if they're so dead set on no healing, so tell them to put their money where their mouth is and use it. It's strange to see such resistance to healing modules, especially since they are short circuiting in nature when not needed, so they literally aren't impeding you in any way. This could all just be them trying to resist dealing with whatever they have buried underneath, though.

Let's not waste yet another month or more on a *second* "I told you so" version of the program, just to bare out what almost all of us already know.

I would like to know from Shannon what the differences in the script would be. I also don't agree with the fact that if people don't have the results with 2.4's current script that a version 2.5 without the clearing modules would be the same..

The way I understood v2.4 to work is that the clearing modules will be in effect until any blockages are removed. After that, the other areas of the script would take into effect.

Being that I started with 2.3 and was only 12 days into it before 2.4 was released, I would like to understand the key differences. If there aren't going to be very many key differences between a v2.3 and a v2.5, I agree, it's not worth loading up. If the differences are enough between the two programs, I'd be interested in trying it out.

And even if a v2.5 is released, it doesn't mean that everyone has to switch to it.

I would like to hear what Shannon has to say, as he knows more about this than all of us here. I'll go with whatever he advises.
Why do we even need V2.5 ?
(10-09-2016, 11:57 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to know from Shannon what the differences in the script would be.

Just take a look to the product description at the product page. There are all changes hid did between 2.3 and 2.4. And the only difference between 2.4 and 2.5 would be the removed healing as he said at the last page.
Shannon was the one that resurrected 2.5 talk. He said he's thinking about building it due to the extended time between v2.4 and the 3-series. Could use the observations between healing in v2.4 and no healing in v2.5.
(10-09-2016, 12:03 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-09-2016, 11:57 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]I would like to know from Shannon what the differences in the script would be.

Just take a look to the product description at the product page. There are all changes hid did between 2.3 and 2.4. And the only difference between 2.4 and 2.5 would be the removed healing as he said at the last page.

No, I understand that portion, but he also upgraded some of the technologies as well in 2.4 that 2.3 didn't have. My question is the overall changes in the program versions between 2.3 and 2.4, if the clearing modules are removed, how much of an overall difference would that make between a v2.3 and a v2.5.

I took on the DMSI test to be part of its "clinical trials". If the changes are significant enough between versions, it would be interesting to see what the differences are. I'm only raising these points because they were brought up yesterday and Shannon himself said he was considering it. I'm merely following up on the conversation.

We're not guaranteed that V3 will take us to the promised land either. Maybe closer, but, that's the whole point of developing an experimental technology isn't it? To test and continue to refine.
(10-09-2016, 11:45 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]It's strange to see such resistance to healing modules, especially since they are short circuiting in nature when not needed, so they literally aren't impeding you in any way. This could all just be them trying to resist dealing with whatever they have buried underneath, though.

Unless those modules don't short circuiting and Shannon want to check that.
(10-09-2016, 12:15 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]My question is the overall changes in the program versions between 2.3 and 2.4

From product page:
Quote:V2.4 Adjustments/additions:

Many tweaks in many different areas of the script and modules.
Added and optimized SEBAM tech module.
Added and optimized MAFE tech module.
Addedand optimized RIFX tech module.
Added added and optimized MIIX tech module.
Tripled the number of statements in the SATT module.
Enabled SVX and focused it on achieving the goals ofthe program.
Optimized ATMX module.
Enabled the OGSF module and all related sub-modules, and focused them on achieving the goals of the program.
Added the surprise.
Heavily modified and optimized the goal phrasing.

That's the technology and also why I mentioned the product page.

EDIT: The surprise is P3
(10-09-2016, 12:16 PM)Weichi Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-09-2016, 11:45 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]It's strange to see such resistance to healing modules, especially since they are short circuiting in nature when not needed, so they literally aren't impeding you in any way. This could all just be them trying to resist dealing with whatever they have buried underneath, though.

Unless those modules don't short circuiting and Shannon want to check that.

Then V2.3 would've been a step forward in results, but it wasn't. So it seems the test was already done and feedback showed they weren't in the way. And the reason V2.2 failed was because of a discovered script error, not the healing modules. They were red herrings. So I just feel this test would be redundant, and am hesitant to go off the healing benefits of V2.4 due to that is all.
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