Subliminal Talk

(11-01-2016, 05:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It is a natural law that the more valuable something is, the more the Powers That Be will want to regulate (control) it.

So... is there any chance we can get a "flip the script on the powers that be 6G" sub?

(11-01-2016, 05:16 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 05:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It is a natural law that the more valuable something is, the more the Powers That Be will want to regulate (control) it.

So... is there any chance we can get a "flip the script on the powers that be 6G" sub?

You want me dead, don't you.

(11-01-2016, 05:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 05:16 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 05:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It is a natural law that the more valuable something is, the more the Powers That Be will want to regulate (control) it.

So... is there any chance we can get a "flip the script on the powers that be 6G" sub?

You want me dead, don't you.

Lol, no. Do you think it's that bad? You don't strike me as someone who really believes in the "powers that be".

(11-01-2016, 05:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 05:16 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 05:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It is a natural law that the more valuable something is, the more the Powers That Be will want to regulate (control) it.

So... is there any chance we can get a "flip the script on the powers that be 6G" sub?

You want me dead, don't you.

Seriously...I already worry about you and this company when 6G breaks. Like suddenly you're in the news for being this huge cocaine importer or some other nonsense, lol.

Thankfully, most people are ignorant and believe there's no such thing as the subconscious etc. and other nonsense and faulty thinking. So, the gross ignorance at large will buffer you greatly. Even if 6G is successful, most won't even be willing to accept it as legit. Many also will have a fear of perceived lack of control when they use subs like you've said before. Or too proud to admit they have a problem to fix. Their loss is our gain. I believe a niche company like yours, will have a core of rabid customers who believe in you and trust you, some small expansion outside that. So, make sure you charge high to compensate, I'm thinking $500 single stage 6G, $1000 multistage 6G, your quality is worth it anyway. I've already had some very solid ideas to send your way when 6G is ready to promote IML on the cheap in a very blunt, no nonsense way where doubters will be converted. We'll talk about that in time, it'll need at least E3 built, maybe a new weight loss or stop smoking sub.

(11-01-2016, 05:02 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Masculinity is missing as well no? DMSI doesn't seem as grounded and masculine as AM is.

Interesting. I've not had trouble with men for quite a while. I remember it was always something I had to deal with in sales but it's seemed to quiet down.

I agree that younger women need to be targeted better.

maybe its not as much as am but it doesn't appear to be lacking, especially if testosterone is increasing and some guys are experiencing agression

(11-01-2016, 05:02 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Does a woman have to earn the good graces tho? Through sex for example?

And as for having things under control, I don't know if that's true, because there are many "alpha" types whose lives are in shambles. What "it" is exactly is still elusive, at least for me.

Unless it's just a matter of feeling like you have things under control, or feeling at ease, in which case, that would make sense.

Yea if you just give away your good graces to everyone automatically it signals low status, as for having things under control I don't mean their entire life, just what moment or social situation they're currently in.

Can we get a tutorial on how to activate the Sniper effect on DMSI?

Illumi is out here sniping bitches with manifestation, is it possible to train this as a skill?

(11-01-2016, 06:45 PM)Travis Wrote: [ -> ]Can we get a tutorial on how to activate the Sniper effect on DMSI?

Illumi is out here sniping bitches with manifestation, is it possible to train this as a skill?

The sniper is fully automatic. It is triggered as long as you are executing the script and you are within sight of a person who triggers attraction in the right directions. It also self adjusts based on how much they trigger your attraction, so if you are executing the script, the perfect 10 will be sniped hardest.

You cannot train it. Relying on conscious action and cooperation is how we fail by virtue of conscious fears and not paying attention consciously, whereas an automatic subconscious sniper responds whether or not you consciously notice them and regardless of what you are consciously thinking.

(11-01-2016, 07:28 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 06:45 PM)Travis Wrote: [ -> ]Can we get a tutorial on how to activate the Sniper effect on DMSI?

Illumi is out here sniping bitches with manifestation, is it possible to train this as a skill?

The sniper is fully automatic. It is triggered as long as you are executing the script and you are within sight of a person who triggers attraction in the right directions. It also self adjusts based on how much they trigger your attraction, so if you are executing the script, the perfect 10 will be sniped hardest.

You cannot train it. Relying on conscious action and cooperation is how we fail by virtue of conscious fears and not paying attention consciously, whereas an automatic subconscious sniper responds whether or not you consciously notice them and regardless of what you are consciously thinking.

Is it still to early for you to reveal what the "new sniper" in v2.5 does? From my experiences, it seems to be sniping more women, but I can't quite put my finger on why. Some of the women that were sniped were not really my type, nor did I feel that magnetic attraction to them, like I did the blonde at the marketing event. In these recent cases, it was more like: "Oh, hello there... weird woman that keeps staring at me uncontrollably..."

(11-01-2016, 08:16 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 07:28 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 06:45 PM)Travis Wrote: [ -> ]Can we get a tutorial on how to activate the Sniper effect on DMSI?

Illumi is out here sniping bitches with manifestation, is it possible to train this as a skill?

The sniper is fully automatic. It is triggered as long as you are executing the script and you are within sight of a person who triggers attraction in the right directions. It also self adjusts based on how much they trigger your attraction, so if you are executing the script, the perfect 10 will be sniped hardest.

You cannot train it. Relying on conscious action and cooperation is how we fail by virtue of conscious fears and not paying attention consciously, whereas an automatic subconscious sniper responds whether or not you consciously notice them and regardless of what you are consciously thinking.

Is it still to early for you to reveal what the "new sniper" in v2.5 does? From my experiences, it seems to be sniping more women, but I can't quite put my finger on why. Some of the women that were sniped were not really my type, nor did I feel that magnetic attraction to them, like I did the blonde at the marketing event. In these recent cases, it was more like: "Oh, hello there... weird woman that keeps staring at me uncontrollably..."

maybe its just the baseline attraction coming in stronger due to 2.5s new energy sourcing?

(11-01-2016, 08:16 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 07:28 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 06:45 PM)Travis Wrote: [ -> ]Can we get a tutorial on how to activate the Sniper effect on DMSI?

Illumi is out here sniping bitches with manifestation, is it possible to train this as a skill?

The sniper is fully automatic. It is triggered as long as you are executing the script and you are within sight of a person who triggers attraction in the right directions. It also self adjusts based on how much they trigger your attraction, so if you are executing the script, the perfect 10 will be sniped hardest.

You cannot train it. Relying on conscious action and cooperation is how we fail by virtue of conscious fears and not paying attention consciously, whereas an automatic subconscious sniper responds whether or not you consciously notice them and regardless of what you are consciously thinking.

Is it still to early for you to reveal what the "new sniper" in v2.5 does? From my experiences, it seems to be sniping more women, but I can't quite put my finger on why. Some of the women that were sniped were not really my type, nor did I feel that magnetic attraction to them, like I did the blonde at the marketing event. In these recent cases, it was more like: "Oh, hello there... weird woman that keeps staring at me uncontrollably..."

There are two possible explanations for that.

1. It's actually not the sniper causing those you're not attracted to to respond, it's baseline aura, and 2.5 is just that much more powerful.

2. You're attracted subconsciously in ways that are triggering the sniper, or you don't consciously know she has one or more features that would have triggered the right level of attraction to cause the sniper to respond if you consciously knew.

Not revealing it just yet.

Thanks for the info Shannon, your explanation should go into some sort of Encyclopedia Sublimina!

It all makes sense now, the closest DMSI ever came to achieving 100% was with a girl I consider a flawless 10. Hotter girl -> More powerful sniper

(11-02-2016, 04:06 AM)rise Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 11:35 AM)bits Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, I know you have hormone optimization in DMSI but if you have the ability to target certain hormones or pheromones for production, please target 3ß-Androstanediol:

Quote:3ß-Androstanediol (probaby also it's sulfate) - the elusive alpha and fallout molecule, it very likely is this one (or the two) and it's Alpha-Isomer, 3a-Androstanediol, the famous female orgsam enhancer and "lubing agent".

It's obvious. Nevertheless and astonishing it's not used by vendors thus far. It took years and years before someone - read: me - had the ingenuity and persistence to actually consult the literature and connect the dots.
So mark the 1.11.2016, and remember who gave it to you, it's the return of magic to your future alpha-mixes and I claim the fame.

- Everything posted below is backed up by state-of-the art research and current medical consensus, but I will not provide references here. Anybody interested may contact me via pm. -


1. It is closely linked to Androsterone and DHT in the steroid-genesis pathway. It's actually only one enzymatic step away from both, on two different pathways respectively.
Everybody knows the importance of Androsterone to a pheromone-signature.
DHT is the most potent androgenic hormone in the body. 3ß-Andiol links and regulates both, keeping them in homeostasis.

2. While DHT is potently androgenic it is a substance that is can be either very beneficial or very harmful to human health. The physiological environment is crucial. 3ß-Anediol is the key. All studies indicate that a strong and healthy androgen-metabolism correlates with a certain relation of quantity between 3ß-Anediol and DHT, with 3ß-Anediol levels being higher than DHT. Very simply put: Many think high DHT means very masculine ... well not quite. High 3ß-Anediol, the product of enzymatic degradation of DHT, means very masculine - and a physiology able to deal with it.

3. It positively regulates oxytocin-neurons in the hypothalamus - indicating both alpha and fallout potential. Ideally Oxytocin will prompt yourself to be protective and emphatic to not only your kin and lover, but all persons valuable, beneficial and useful to yourlife (friends, colleauges, professionals you seek and get advice from). Looking after them and maintain beneficial relations is the primary social trait of an alpha-male. Oxy is essential to that. But Oxy is not the lovey-dovey molecule the manstream think it is. It can also, by way of being protective to said group of persons, prompt highly aggressive and protective behaviour - the alpha will protect it's clan to the end, not backing down.

When others are affected by 3ß-Anediol, they will sense that traits/signal. Females sense the protective high status alpha-male and males will seek you as a leader or an ally, depending on their social status. The Oxytocin-regulating action means that you ill have an emphatic and imprinting bonus, making 3ß-Anediol superior to Androsterone in that regard. Androsterone will promote rivlary among alphas, 3ß-Anediol cooperation.

4. 3ß-Anediol is not an allosteric modularor of GABAa, unlike Androsterone. This is useful in a phero-blend. Androsterone alone can be too dampening, especially alongside molecules like -Etrione that make you sleepy. 3ß-Anediol is cognitive enhancing, anxiolytic and stress-relieving via the oxytocin mediated action. It will act in concert with Androsterone, making this combination a mental tonic (like coffeine+theanine). It is not a negative allosteric modulator like exitatory neurosterids that will often clash with positive modulators like androsterone and therefore result in the well known phero-crashes or headaches.

5. Androsterone and 3ß-Anediol are both naturally occuring in deer musk, indictaing that a) 3ß-Anediol is in fact an excreted pheromone b) Androsterone and 3ß-Anediol are a naturaly occuring pairing and c) is a safe substance, used for centuries as medicine and perfumery.
The fact that androsterone and 3ß-Anediol occur together in deer mus is no surprise given the described metbolic relation and is another strong hint that they profit greatly from each other when used in alongside.


According to what I can gather from various source, 3ß-Anediol was relatively easy to obtain before 2011, becoming more restricted and expensive very quickly after that. Those who are versed in the history of a certain famous alpha-blend will probably find that intruiging.

A special thanks goes to Ekscentra and NP17 who theorized that a cetain famous alpha blend, contrary to popular beliefy was not based on Androsterone but another putative molecule, with Androsterone nevertehless being an important second. It's probably 3ß-Anediol guys. p106 or p90 o some such osik, who cares how they code their shit, it is this molecule.

And the isomer, 3a Anediol, also one of the staples. MHarris knew his stuff and he certainly knew how deer musk was composed.

Read what 3-Androstanediol does:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3%CE%B1-An...20646182-8

especially

http://www.jsm.jsexmed.org/article/S1743...8/abstract

Also anti-convulsant and anxiolytic. You can figure out which coded Putative that is, it's plainly obvious.

It seems this is the key to androtics a314 rev.23 and love-scent's a314 which as i'm sure you remember was quite the freight train of a mix. Reading more about it its very likely that this was the secret ingredient in the pheromone mix max attract gold since they had a sudden change of formula in 2011. That mix was absolutely legendary. MAG was probably the only pheromone would you could really just stand near a girl, have her attracted, open you, and sleep with you without doing much of anything.

Thinking back to my experiences this is about as primal as a molecule can get - it made women deeply attracted and aroused, made them put an almost insane level of trust in me, and had women almost feel honored that I would have sex with them. It has so far been the only mone where women have explicitly told me they NEEDED my dick inside them, they would be willing to do anything.

My most memorable experience was a former model paying my tuition with her rich ex-husbands alimony and offering to buy me a car. She tried really hard to get me to marry her and the quote I remember the most from her was "i don't know what is, you're not even old enough to drink, but I feel like I can put my life in your hands and i feel like I need to have your babies".

She really tried to pull out all the stops, at first she wanted me all to herself but she realized I didn't want anything serious and would flat out say she would be okay with sharing me, she arranged threesomes, introduced me to new women, and constantly told me "whenever you need sex just call me and ill drop everything" and she really did.

She had to move to take care of family but still talks to me on facebook sometimes and says she constantly fantasizes about me cumming inside her even though its been years since we met. She's in her early 40s now but still looks amazingly hot and looks closer to 30.

She had the most overt response but what was shocking to me is that she had millionaires, 1 billionaire, and celebs/athletes chasing her while she laid in bed next to me. All their looks, money, status, etc meant nothing to her. The reactions on other women weren't as intense (i was going after women in women in their early 20s) but very similar.

They would be deeply attracted, highly trusting, very submissive, and constantly beg me to come inside them. MAG and a314 rev.23 were really the only mixes where I would see women really trying to prove themselves in bed, as if I was doing them a favor by letting them sleep with me .

Im not a huge fan of the caveman analogies but I think this molecule is as close as it gets, this turns you into the alpha, king, genghis khan, etc. Men are supposed to follow your every lead and women should be honored they get to have sex with you over one of your peasants.

If you can target certain hormones, or at least recreate their effects, I may have to spring the $5000 for a custom job because I only have 1 bottle of rev.23 left and need to save it for very special occasions



I think DMSI is close to recreating this, what would be missing IMO is the trust and "protected" aura - it may also be why some guys are getting aggression from other men. If a ruler/king is loved by his people they trust him and they know he's looking out for them, when they feel like their ruler/king is against them they rebel and turn hostile.

I know i've mentioned it a lot but I think that feeling of being protected by a man is irresistible to women, i'm sure my experiences with mones have created a bias in that direction but for some reason it keeps popping up in my head as a key factor.

I would have it affect everyone not just women though, a314 had good effects on women but also great effects on men especially in terms of career advancement.

Quote:When others are affected by 3ß-Anediol, they will sense that traits/signal. Females sense the protective high status alpha-male and males will seek you as a leader or an ally, depending on their social status. The Oxytocin-regulating action means that you ill have an emphatic and imprinting bonus, making 3ß-Anediol superior to Androsterone in that regard. Androsterone will promote rivlary among alphas, 3ß-Anediol cooperation.

I noticed that for sure, guys with way more status than me helping me in social and business situations. Its the only reason my older brother has the job he does, because this 50yo big shot exec bumped into me at a bar and started sucking up to me and put him in touch with the right people.

holly fuk what have i just read. Depressing I never knew about this magic pill.

Shannon are you taking note??? this is the kind of results we want from dmsi. We don't care how you do it but please this is the benchmark. Is it even possible for dmsi v3 to have results like this??? is this the type of stuff your aiming the sub to do shannon???

Didn't you read the quote of my report of what it did? I was one of the testers. Of course this sort of thing is the goal. Better, if possible.

(11-01-2016, 04:31 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 03:54 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 03:09 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-01-2016, 02:33 PM)posh Wrote: [ -> ]you can't get it. The product got changed and now it doesn't work here the full story: http://houseofpheromones.com/androtics-d...pherotalk/

Yep...

Unbelievably epic fail...the golden ticket. Ruined.

I'll never understand that. I'm so jealous of those who owned it and used it, and STILL do. I've heard so many ridiculous stories.

Wow, seems like the Holy Grail in a lot of ways.

But surely the molecule can be procured and produced by other companies, no?

It's been tried many times and all resulted in failure. One project by someone is going on now and apparently he says he has a substitute for it. But that's in the early stages of development so I'm not holding my breath, could just be more BS talk.

For some reason they invented the greatest thing ever, truly life changing results, but then shot themselves in the foot by ruining the formula for it and it's NEVER been the same. They annoyingly always change the formulas over time, so you never know if it'll produce the same results you pay for, or better, or worse. Imagine buying subs from Shannon, paying 6G prices, but never knowing if it'll be 6G or 3G. It's prime reputation is legendary. Stuff you wouldn't even believe. I've offered a good pile of money to FIND some of it's prime revision and I can pay to send it to a high end laboratory so it's formula can be determined once and for all. It'd be incredible to test it myself, but I've never seen any and obviously people don't want to sell it so I haven't been able to get any to send to a lab to replicate it, sadly.

Well...

CatMan has the capital and business experience. Shannon has the product (for testing), a perfumery lab and a pre-existing rabid fanbase dying to buy his products. Once DMSI is complete, a pheromone like this, marketed as a "booster" or a non-subliminal version of DMSI would really generate some serious cash.

Not to mention, you've got marketers like myself, who are already successful online (just got my monthly payment from PheromoneXS yesterday), and I get PMed at least once a day from people interested in affiliate marketing, online biz.

This could be an opportunity for some "market penetration". PUN INTENDED! LOLOLOLZOLOL!!!!11

EDIT: Just to be blunt with it, I'm suggesting that you send CatMan some of your a314 so he can get it tested, then joint-venture with him to get it produced. Then, open an affiliate program for it so I can get my dick wet and my pockets lined with money drenched with the tears of a million SJWs.

(11-02-2016, 12:34 PM)rise Wrote: [ -> ]Bits did they ever find out the secret molecules in a314?

Yes, it's Androstanediol

At what concentration its hard to say