Subliminal Talk

Full Version: Shannon's Journal Discussion
You're currently viewing a stripped down version of our content. View the full version with proper formatting.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691
You guys don't get it. Releasing a dangerous subliminal to ANYONE puts my entire business at risk. Especially if someone "shares" it. (Piracy being such an unpleasant word and all.) Not saying that it would be shared, but in today's world, I can't afford to and will not risk my business because you want to play with something that has been flagged as dangerous.

I'd be glad to let you burn yourself if you wanted to be foolish, if it wasn't just as likely to burn me.

Safe, effective, useful. Always.
(05-28-2016, 03:41 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-28-2016, 02:22 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-28-2016, 12:20 PM)gtavmofo Wrote: [ -> ]Talking of upgrades any chance of a upgraded ASC Shannon, 5.5G with all the trimmings ect?

6G only.

Shannon if/when you Upgrade ASC to 6 G (and by the way zero pressure from me,Im having the deepest time and the most healing,uplifting time with E2 6 day in,and no ***** its changing my life.) I suggest an 'ego balancer' to be included in ASC 6g to level out,smooth out possible bulldozing folks... liken it to an over does of testosterone driven proverbial Bull in a China shop. tha tcould be understating it seeing as how very POWERFUL 5.5 is. Im lovin E2. humble thanx. does not suffice. alas its all I have now but thankful tears. I swear Man!!!

Hey there ncbeareatingman I saw a few old posts in Shannons original journal about you using ASC4G were the results epic?
I was thinking, being sexually irresistible can cause different problems for women than for men. Men really do not have a substantial probability of being raped, women on the other hand DO have a much higher probability than men of being raped (much higher).

Maybe for a woman being too much of a sexual irresistible person can become unsafe for them ?

I don't know if Shannon is limiting it to protect the female users, or what, but this is the kind of thing that we end up losing trying to make one program fit to everyone.
(05-28-2016, 06:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You guys don't get it. Releasing a dangerous subliminal to ANYONE puts my entire business at risk. Especially if someone "shares" it. (Piracy being such an unpleasant word and all.) Not saying that it would be shared, but in today's world, I can't afford to and will not risk my business because you want to play with something that has been flagged as dangerous.

I'd be glad to let you burn yourself if you wanted to be foolish, if it wasn't just as likely to burn me.

Safe, effective, useful. Always.

I'll be honest. If you told me to sign a waiver to test it out (which you wouldn't, I know) stating that I assume full responsibility for whatever went down by testing AOSI...I'd sign it willingly. Of course that's coming from three sources: over eagerness, selfishness and a feeling of curiosity. That said, I understand your point of view especially thanks to DarthXenodias and I apologize.

@DarthXenodias:

Your example is one of the reasons why I'm apologizing because I work in an environment VERY similar to yours so your statement really hit home. To make matters worse...my BOSS is very attractive so if I turned her down I'd be in deep sh!t.

@ImFreeman: I'm still leaning towards the "gender neutral" AOSI but...your statement definitely has some validity.
(05-28-2016, 06:23 PM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ]I was thinking, being sexually irresistible can cause different problems for women than for men. Men really do not have a substantial probability of being raped, women on the other hand DO have a much higher probability than men of being raped (much higher).

Maybe for a woman being too much of a sexual irresistible person can become unsafe for them ?

I don't know if Shannon is limiting it to protect the female users, or what, but this is the kind of thing that we end up losing trying to make one program fit to everyone.

Yes, particularly for women living in rough neighborhoods, or for those who are constantly traveling. Too much sexual attractiveness may not be a good thing in this case.
(05-28-2016, 06:12 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]What would you say is a better balance Shannon? Running E2 for 2 months or just 1 month? The longer I run it the farther away I get from my WM state and the more I go from a WM state to a E2 state before entering SM3.

Edit: also I get the impression that E2 kind of unravels whatever program came before it since some of your past issues may be kind of intermingled with some of the stuff that might have just been polished over by previous programs. Kind of like being confident and feeling shame at the same time (which is what I have).

E2 will "unravel" YOU, get you to release and outgrow all the crap that needs to be released and outgrown, and get you to make yourself ready to be rebuilt in whatever way you want. More time is better. You can't be focused on pussy when you're trying to heal.
(05-28-2016, 06:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You guys don't get it. Releasing a dangerous subliminal to ANYONE puts my entire business at risk. Especially if someone "shares" it. (Piracy being such an unpleasant word and all.) Not saying that it would be shared, but in today's world, I can't afford to and will not risk my business because you want to play with something that has been flagged as dangerous.

I'd be glad to let you burn yourself if you wanted to be foolish, if it wasn't just as likely to burn me.

Safe, effective, useful. Always.

Collective answer from forum members: "B-b-b-but what about muh d*ck???"

lol, everyone's assuming that the models were predicting an aura that would just melt panties off. just as likely that the models are saying that your body would burn out trying to produce the aura.

i'm on stage 4 of my second AM6 run. yesterday, I messed up the playlist on my phone and ended up running s3 and s4 back-to-back all day. that night, my head felt like it was going to explode, I was up all night twisting and turning in bed, and I was experiencing the most ridiculous, undirected rage at EVERYTHING. lesson learned, follow the freaking directions.

i for one, wouldn't run an unsafe version of 5.5g tech.
(05-28-2016, 06:23 PM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ]I was thinking, being sexually irresistible can cause different problems for women than for men. Men really do not have a substantial probability of being raped, women on the other hand DO have a much higher probability than men of being raped (much higher).

Maybe for a woman being too much of a sexual irresistible person can become unsafe for them ?

I don't know if Shannon is limiting it to protect the female users, or what, but this is the kind of thing that we end up losing trying to make one program fit to everyone.

I didn't think of that, but now that you mention it, it could be a concern. I definitely thought it was a concern when he said anyone of any age could use it. If I was a teenager and knew about this, I'd use it.

You could have it so it only effects those who are a minor if the user is a minor and only those 18+ if over 18 (or whatever respective legal age is in said country). Don't know if it'd be tricky though.

Also if Shannon did have an unofficial version I'd totally be interested. I'd go with the legal version first for 3 months and if it's not as unchained as I'd like, try the unofficial one. Seriously, like if there was some legal contract we could sign to alleviate any responsibility from Shannon for testing the sub, I'd do it. It sounds to crazy not to know what it'd be like! Even if guys started following me around (which I wouldn't want) and elderly women tried to fondle me (still don't want), at least I'd be able to say "Well now I know that he was right. I'd better stop using this".

Back to reality, he is keeping the goal the main focus and it will be 5.5G so it should be extremely blatant and effective regardless. With E2, I knew within a week that something definitely was changing. AOSI should be even more pronounced!
(05-28-2016, 06:23 PM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ]I was thinking, being sexually irresistible can cause different problems for women than for men. Men really do not have a substantial probability of being raped, women on the other hand DO have a much higher probability than men of being raped (much higher).

Maybe for a woman being too much of a sexual irresistible person can become unsafe for them ?

I don't know if Shannon is limiting it to protect the female users, or what, but this is the kind of thing that we end up losing trying to make one program fit to everyone.

I have to say I am doubly astonished.

Men get raped much more than you realize. It's just a very under-reported crime because most guys are too ashamed to admit it, report it or ask for help.

I'm not limiting it. I'm following our company guidelines: Safe, effective, useful. This is how we stay in business. I am doing what common sense dictates. I am preventing you and those around you, and me, from getting hurt.

There is no "loss" because it's an all in one approach. I would take this very same approach if it were six versions. Why is it so hard for you guys to comprehend that me releasing something I know is unsafe is wrong, bad business, and ILLEGAL?
(05-28-2016, 06:31 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-28-2016, 06:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You guys don't get it. Releasing a dangerous subliminal to ANYONE puts my entire business at risk. Especially if someone "shares" it. (Piracy being such an unpleasant word and all.) Not saying that it would be shared, but in today's world, I can't afford to and will not risk my business because you want to play with something that has been flagged as dangerous.

I'd be glad to let you burn yourself if you wanted to be foolish, if it wasn't just as likely to burn me.

Safe, effective, useful. Always.

I'll be honest. If you told me to sign a waiver to test it out (which you wouldn't, I know) stating that I assume full responsibility for whatever went down by testing AOSI...I'd sign it willingly. Of course that's coming from three sources: over eagerness, selfishness and a feeling of curiosity. That said, I understand your point of view especially thanks to DarthXenodias and I apologize.

@DarthXenodias:

Your example is one of the reasons why I'm apologizing because I work in an environment VERY similar to yours so your statement really hit home. To make matters worse...my BOSS is very attractive so if I turned her down I'd be in deep sh!t.

@ImFreeman: I'm still leaning towards the "gender neutral" AOSI but...your statement definitely has some validity.

If I told you to sign a waiver, I still risk the program getting into the hands of someone who didn't. I still risk something happening to you. I still risk a lot of things. And whether or not it works or hurts YOU doesn't tell me if it hurts someone else.

Please understand that. Curiosity, selfishness, etc. are not going to get you something dangerous from me. Ever.
(05-28-2016, 06:36 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Collective answer from forum members: "B-b-b-but what about muh d*ck???"

lol, everyone's assuming that the models were predicting an aura that would just melt panties off. just as likely that the models are saying that your body would burn out trying to produce the aura.

i'm on stage 4 of my second AM6 run. yesterday, I messed up the playlist on my phone and ended up running s3 and s4 back-to-back all day. that night, my head felt like it was going to explode, I was up all night twisting and turning in bed, and I was experiencing the most ridiculous, undirected rage at EVERYTHING. lesson learned, follow the freaking directions.

i for one, wouldn't run an unsafe version of 5.5g tech.


Shannon stated the models were pointing to AOSI being "TOO EFFECTIVE". So yeah the forum members (myself included) started thinking with our d!cks but when a subliminal's primary goal is to produce an aura of sexiness and attract people and the creator says it works to well...shit. Man I don't care, that statement combined with years and years of cartoons and watching Love Potion #9 several times does something to you. Tongue

(05-28-2016, 06:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If I told you to sign a waiver, I still risk the program getting into the hands of someone who didn't. I still risk something happening to you. I still risk a lot of things. And whether or not it works or hurts YOU doesn't tell me if it hurts someone else.

Please understand that. Curiosity, selfishness, etc. are not going to get you something dangerous from me. Ever.

Of course, I'm not arguing with that. If this was my business I wouldn't risk it either IF I was in your situation. But I was just being honest with how I was feeling. Normally I wouldn't even question your judgement on this as you know but hey, I'm human too and this new tech even has ME pumped more than usual.
(05-28-2016, 06:48 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-28-2016, 06:36 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Collective answer from forum members: "B-b-b-but what about muh d*ck???"

lol, everyone's assuming that the models were predicting an aura that would just melt panties off. just as likely that the models are saying that your body would burn out trying to produce the aura.

i'm on stage 4 of my second AM6 run. yesterday, I messed up the playlist on my phone and ended up running s3 and s4 back-to-back all day. that night, my head felt like it was going to explode, I was up all night twisting and turning in bed, and I was experiencing the most ridiculous, undirected rage at EVERYTHING. lesson learned, follow the freaking directions.

i for one, wouldn't run an unsafe version of 5.5g tech.


Shannon stated the models were pointing to AOSI being "TOO EFFECTIVE". So yeah the forum members (myself included) started thinking with our d!cks but when a subliminal's primary goal is to produce an aura of sexiness and attract people and the creator says it works to well...shit. Man I don't care, that statement combined with years and years of cartoons and watching Love Potion #9 several times does something to you. Tongue

In this case, it is likely that "too effective" likely means one of the following:
  • It would cause physical issues trying to use too much personal energy.
  • It would get you acting in a manner that gets you in serious trouble.
  • It would get someone else acting in a manner that gets you in serious trouble.
  • It would be bad for me, my reputation, my business and my research.

Whatever one or more of those, it is not going to happen. "Too effective" means we went past the sweet spot at the peak and broke something. Not on my watch.
(05-28-2016, 06:48 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-28-2016, 06:36 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Collective answer from forum members: "B-b-b-but what about muh d*ck???"

lol, everyone's assuming that the models were predicting an aura that would just melt panties off. just as likely that the models are saying that your body would burn out trying to produce the aura.

i'm on stage 4 of my second AM6 run. yesterday, I messed up the playlist on my phone and ended up running s3 and s4 back-to-back all day. that night, my head felt like it was going to explode, I was up all night twisting and turning in bed, and I was experiencing the most ridiculous, undirected rage at EVERYTHING. lesson learned, follow the freaking directions.

i for one, wouldn't run an unsafe version of 5.5g tech.


Shannon stated the models were pointing to AOSI being "TOO EFFECTIVE". So yeah the forum members (myself included) started thinking with our d!cks but when a subliminal's primary goal is to produce an aura of sexiness and attract people and the creator says it works to well...shit. Man I don't care, that statement combined with years and years of cartoons and watching Love Potion #9 several times does something to you. Tongue

Yeah that's what happened. If Shannon didn't say it worked "too well" and just said that the models said the current script was "unsafe" then it wouldn't have gotten as much attention probably.
I am still tweaking AOSI, and I have a couple more additions to try out. It's getting better and better.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691