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(07-06-2016, 05:22 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:07 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

I like this line for DMSI/AOSI/DAOSI/CNN/HUGDIHX/WHATEVER

"all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them", rather than the age limiter statement if I had to choose between them even though I think a lot of wording in it is unnecessary. Many countries have different age consent laws, and under different situations, so it's unlikely people would somehow inherently know what age a person is and somehow know what age is legal or not in whatever country they're in and what circumstances. I'd rather not have a lawyer in my head. Seems like it would just inhibit performance and complicate it's process, like maybe if a girl looks younger than she is etc., similar to how the earlier sexual orientation limiters did. I'd really prefer not having a minefield like age limiting in the sub, that could ruin it for someone like me who travels a lot and countries have vastly different laws. Please don't put something like that in there. Let's get the sub to the point of actually working as advertised, before we nerf it down with conditions before it starts to work. Makes sense to me.

I thought this too when I read the statement. Can you elaborate on exactly what it means Shannon? And will we know the statement you end up going with when you build 2.2?

Catman: As a United Statesian, who comes from the "land of the free", you don't have the right - BY FEDERAL LAW - to choose what country to go to to select the age of consent laws you prefer. According to federal law, you will be punished for statutory rape for having sex with anyone under the age of 18 while outside of the country, upon your return. Let "freedom" ring....

Maxx, it means that the program would target and focus on getting people who already want to sexually seduce you and have sex with you, to act on and make those desires reality.

What you are all forgetting in your orgy of conscious gatekeeping here, is that the models show me what will produce the best results. This is not always going to be what you might expect. And, as a result, I have decided that I'm not going to release the wording that goes in, or the other 13 options I just finished calculating, because you guys are too into looking for reasons it can't work, or how to derail it.

Whatever the models select as being the wording that produces the most happy majority of customers in response to how well it works, that's what you'll get.

I am now off to run the 15 semi-finalists through the models and narrow it down to the best of the best through several more rounds of modeling.
(07-06-2016, 05:18 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]No. It takes too much power away from the user. Any time you take responsibility out of your hands in life shit gets ugly.

That can be balanced with the person running the subliminal to want to seduce them as well , creating balance.
Shannon,

I wish I knew what this model was. You have a lot of faith in it and I bet it's been very helpful in your success.

I had a friend who was a hypnotist who once told me that some things are better left to the unconscious because the conscious mind would mess it up. Like walking. How do you know where to put your foot next and how to transfer the weight from one foot to another, etc. Your conscious mind would mess it all up and feel overwhelmed. But you trust the unconscious and you can walk just fine.

Perhaps this is like your model, too. It by passes the conscious mind to give a better (and perhaps unexpected) result.
(07-06-2016, 05:49 PM)Womanizer Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:18 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]No. It takes too much power away from the user. Any time you take responsibility out of your hands in life shit gets ugly.

That can be balanced with the person running the subliminal to want to seduce them as well , creating balance.

Maybe.

I am wondering how using a sub can make someone else decide to seduce you anyways. I mean, if Shannon can do that, then I want to see a "sit on your couch and attract women" sub.
The phrasing that is leading is not one of the options I published.
(07-06-2016, 06:06 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe.

I am wondering how using a sub can make someone else decide to seduce you anyways. I mean, if Shannon can do that, then I want to see a "sit on your couch and attract women" sub.

It basically boils down to the following quote from Shannon

Shannon Wrote:The program is designed to generate an aura of SEXUAL IRRESISTIBILITY. It is designed to get THEM to initiate and have physical sex with YOU. How do you suppose this is going to affect females? Of course it's making them wet. Of course they have to go wipe up sometimes. How do you get a woman to initiate sex with a guy she's never met? OVERWELMING SEXUAL AROUSAL AND ATTRACTION RESPONSE TO HIM!

Now obviously we need disinhibitors and comfort modules so that ASD's don't kick in (which the sub already has from what Shannon's stated) but this philosophy also follows basic human nature. A person who is afraid of conflict can be enticed/motivated to fighting if the factors are right such as hunger, safety, etc.

Won't work for everyone but theoretically, it can definitely work on some people. The exact number is yet to be seen. Of course you'd still need to get out there and interact to get results even if the sub worked correctly.
(07-06-2016, 06:06 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:49 PM)Womanizer Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:18 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]No. It takes too much power away from the user. Any time you take responsibility out of your hands in life shit gets ugly.

That can be balanced with the person running the subliminal to want to seduce them as well , creating balance.

Maybe.

I am wondering how using a sub can make someone else decide to seduce you anyways. I mean, if Shannon can do that, then I want to see a "sit on your couch and attract women" sub.

I attracted the girl who I have my virginity to by using a method I could put in a subliminal, which basically had her show up at my front door a few weeks later and lead me to sex a few days later.

People decide whether or not they want to have sex with you through making judgements about you. On average, a female will make her first and often her most important such judgement with only 4-5 seconds worth of data to go by, and frequently even less.

The data she considers includes, but is not limited to:

  1. Your comliness (how physically attractive you are)
  2. Your height
  3. Your body type
  4. Your weight
  5. Your age
  6. Your gender (hehe)
  7. The color of your skin
  8. Your race
  9. Your body language
  10. How her friends react to you
  11. How others react to you
  12. Your attitude
  13. Your actions
  14. Your choices
  15. What you say
  16. How you say it
  17. The speed at which you act, move and speak
  18. and perhaps the biggest and most important one of all... how she FEELS in response to you.

That last one is important, because it's got a lot to do with what your personal energy feels like to her. It communicates to her what and who you are as surely as your pheromone signature communicates how genetically and reproductively compatible the two of you are to her.

When you are communicating through your personal energy that you are very in your head and mentally focused, you will disconnect those women who require the reverse (emotionality or instinctuality) from you, and vice versa.

When you flood your personal energy with a neon sign that screams "I have fuck tons of sexual energy, and I am sexy as hell, come and get me!", she is very likely to detect this subconsciously and it will influence how she judges and responds to you.

Over time - we don't yet know how much time - this energy, if it is correctly tuned and powerful enough, will cause her to respond with sexual attraction, arousal and desire for sex with you.

That is how this program is intended to work.
(07-06-2016, 06:06 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:49 PM)Womanizer Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:18 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]No. It takes too much power away from the user. Any time you take responsibility out of your hands in life shit gets ugly.

That can be balanced with the person running the subliminal to want to seduce them as well , creating balance.

Maybe.

I am wondering how using a sub can make someone else decide to seduce you anyways. I mean, if Shannon can do that, then I want to see a "sit on your couch and attract women" sub.

(07-06-2016, 06:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The phrasing that is leading is not one of the options I published.

Manifestation?
No, this is goal phrasing. It is not a manifestation statement.
I think I just found the winner of the goal phrasing. It is playing off what both parties want, and apparently gives pretty good results, because it rated a +10, the highest possible rating, for the primary modeling run. I'll be comparing it to the top three runners up for a while and verify that it actually is the best option. It is a variant of one of the runners up.
(07-06-2016, 05:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:22 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:07 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

I like this line for DMSI/AOSI/DAOSI/CNN/HUGDIHX/WHATEVER

"all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them", rather than the age limiter statement if I had to choose between them even though I think a lot of wording in it is unnecessary. Many countries have different age consent laws, and under different situations, so it's unlikely people would somehow inherently know what age a person is and somehow know what age is legal or not in whatever country they're in and what circumstances. I'd rather not have a lawyer in my head. Seems like it would just inhibit performance and complicate it's process, like maybe if a girl looks younger than she is etc., similar to how the earlier sexual orientation limiters did. I'd really prefer not having a minefield like age limiting in the sub, that could ruin it for someone like me who travels a lot and countries have vastly different laws. Please don't put something like that in there. Let's get the sub to the point of actually working as advertised, before we nerf it down with conditions before it starts to work. Makes sense to me.

I thought this too when I read the statement. Can you elaborate on exactly what it means Shannon? And will we know the statement you end up going with when you build 2.2?

Catman: As a United Statesian, who comes from the "land of the free", you don't have the right - BY FEDERAL LAW - to choose what country to go to to select the age of consent laws you prefer. According to federal law, you will be punished for statutory rape for having sex with anyone under the age of 18 while outside of the country, upon your return. Let "freedom" ring....

Maxx, it means that the program would target and focus on getting people who already want to sexually seduce you and have sex with you, to act on and make those desires reality.

What you are all forgetting in your orgy of conscious gatekeeping here, is that the models show me what will produce the best results. This is not always going to be what you might expect. And, as a result, I have decided that I'm not going to release the wording that goes in, or the other 13 options I just finished calculating, because you guys are too into looking for reasons it can't work, or how to derail it.

Whatever the models select as being the wording that produces the most happy majority of customers in response to how well it works, that's what you'll get.

I am now off to run the 15 semi-finalists through the models and narrow it down to the best of the best through several more rounds of modeling.

I'm not an American.
(07-06-2016, 07:50 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:22 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-06-2016, 05:07 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

I like this line for DMSI/AOSI/DAOSI/CNN/HUGDIHX/WHATEVER

"all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them", rather than the age limiter statement if I had to choose between them even though I think a lot of wording in it is unnecessary. Many countries have different age consent laws, and under different situations, so it's unlikely people would somehow inherently know what age a person is and somehow know what age is legal or not in whatever country they're in and what circumstances. I'd rather not have a lawyer in my head. Seems like it would just inhibit performance and complicate it's process, like maybe if a girl looks younger than she is etc., similar to how the earlier sexual orientation limiters did. I'd really prefer not having a minefield like age limiting in the sub, that could ruin it for someone like me who travels a lot and countries have vastly different laws. Please don't put something like that in there. Let's get the sub to the point of actually working as advertised, before we nerf it down with conditions before it starts to work. Makes sense to me.

I thought this too when I read the statement. Can you elaborate on exactly what it means Shannon? And will we know the statement you end up going with when you build 2.2?

Catman: As a United Statesian, who comes from the "land of the free", you don't have the right - BY FEDERAL LAW - to choose what country to go to to select the age of consent laws you prefer. According to federal law, you will be punished for statutory rape for having sex with anyone under the age of 18 while outside of the country, upon your return. Let "freedom" ring....

Maxx, it means that the program would target and focus on getting people who already want to sexually seduce you and have sex with you, to act on and make those desires reality.

What you are all forgetting in your orgy of conscious gatekeeping here, is that the models show me what will produce the best results. This is not always going to be what you might expect. And, as a result, I have decided that I'm not going to release the wording that goes in, or the other 13 options I just finished calculating, because you guys are too into looking for reasons it can't work, or how to derail it.

Whatever the models select as being the wording that produces the most happy majority of customers in response to how well it works, that's what you'll get.

I am now off to run the 15 semi-finalists through the models and narrow it down to the best of the best through several more rounds of modeling.

I'm not an American.

Pow, smacked me down in one shot!

Wow, I apologize for the assumption. Well in that case, carry on being freer than us United Statesians are. Smile

In any case, there will be no age limiter included. The winning phrases so far do not include that.
I just had a really interesting idea: what if I could make a sub based on the Optimus Engine that would cause a man to somehow know how every woman around him subconsciously wants to be treated in order for her to respond with sex, and then get him to automatically and continually treat her that way if she is someone he wants to have sex with?
I'm really curious about the phrasing...but if it's +10, it HAS to be good!
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