Shannon, Can you put in Motivation in the next EPHRA because most of mine before was fear based and now my motivation is gone.
Hey Shannon any news on creating a ASC 6G prototype?
(07-06-2016, 09:35 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (07-06-2016, 06:17 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-06-2016, 06:06 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (07-06-2016, 05:49 PM)Womanizer Wrote: [ -> ] (07-06-2016, 05:18 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]No. It takes too much power away from the user. Any time you take responsibility out of your hands in life shit gets ugly.
That can be balanced with the person running the subliminal to want to seduce them as well , creating balance.
Maybe.
I am wondering how using a sub can make someone else decide to seduce you anyways. I mean, if Shannon can do that, then I want to see a "sit on your couch and attract women" sub.
I attracted the girl who I have my virginity to by using a method I could put in a subliminal, which basically had her show up at my front door a few weeks later and lead me to sex a few days later.
People decide whether or not they want to have sex with you through making judgements about you. On average, a female will make her first and often her most important such judgement with only 4-5 seconds worth of data to go by, and frequently even less.
The data she considers includes, but is not limited to:
- Your comliness (how physically attractive you are)
- Your height
- Your body type
- Your weight
- Your age
- Your gender (hehe)
- The color of your skin
- Your race
- Your body language
- How her friends react to you
- How others react to you
- Your attitude
- Your actions
- Your choices
- What you say
- How you say it
- The speed at which you act, move and speak
- and perhaps the biggest and most important one of all... how she FEELS in response to you.
That last one is important, because it's got a lot to do with what your personal energy feels like to her. It communicates to her what and who you are as surely as your pheromone signature communicates how genetically and reproductively compatible the two of you are to her.
When you are communicating through your personal energy that you are very in your head and mentally focused, you will disconnect those women who require the reverse (emotionality or instinctuality) from you, and vice versa.
When you flood your personal energy with a neon sign that screams "I have **** tons of sexual energy, and I am sexy as hell, come and get me!", she is very likely to detect this subconsciously and it will influence how she judges and responds to you.
Over time - we don't yet know how much time - this energy, if it is correctly tuned and powerful enough, will cause her to respond with sexual attraction, arousal and desire for sex with you.
That is how this program is intended to work.
This is fantastic. Don't get me wrong, I definitely want women to seduce me, and I believe it's the natural way of things in the jungle, but I just don't know how realistic it is.
However, if you can achieve this, I think you know you'll be rich over night. 
(07-06-2016, 08:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I just had a really interesting idea: what if I could make a sub based on the Optimus Engine that would cause a man to somehow know how every woman around him subconsciously wants to be treated in order for her to respond with sex, and then get him to automatically and continually treat her that way if she is someone he wants to have sex with?
I don't think this is a good idea, but it should be tested.
The reason I don't think it's a good idea is because I've heard from many guys that a woman will play into your reality and become what you want her to be. I believe, too, that women do this to better control and manipulate the man they want to be attached to.
However, if the reality is that we DO need to cater to them, then you're right on the money. Will be interesting to see what produces the better program if you develop and test both.
Quote:Don't get me wrong, I definitely want women to seduce me, and I believe it's the natural way of things in the jungle, but I just don't know how realistic it is.
Self contradictory much? If it's the natural way of doing things, then it's realistic.
Humans are not so different than they were in ancient times, my friend.
Quote: (07-06-2016, 08:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I just had a really interesting idea: what if I could make a sub based on the Optimus Engine that would cause a man to somehow know how every woman around him subconsciously wants to be treated in order for her to respond with sex, and then get him to automatically and continually treat her that way if she is someone he wants to have sex with?
I don't think this is a good idea, but it should be tested.
The reason I don't think it's a good idea is because I've heard from many guys that a woman will play into your reality and become what you want her to be. I believe, too, that women do this to better control and manipulate the man they want to be attached to.
However, if the reality is that we DO need to cater to them, then you're right on the money. Will be interesting to see what produces the better program if you develop and test both.
Well of course it needs to be tested. It's an idea. No idea how realistic or viable it actually is.
It is true that women, when they decide they want to capture you, will play into your reality. I have had a number of women try to do that to catch me. They always show their hand eventually and fail.
My idea isn't so much catering to them, as it is reading their trigger map and following it.
I had some options I found during testing for the goal group that showed me that a lot of females (girls and women) respond favorably to things that logically make no sense, and you would never expect. This is because consciously, they want X, but subconsciously, they are programmed to respond to Y by past experiences and their interpretation of what those experiences mean.
If there is some way that I could cause the subconscious to read from a given female what her trigger map is, what she needs you to do in order to trigger her subconscious automatic "Oh, I respond to that by having sex with him," and then get the man to do exactly that, also automatically, there is the potential for a lot of easy sex.
Of course there are other factors to consider as well, but the idea itself has merit, if there is a way to read her trigger map, and automate the process of then executing those actions by the male using the program.
(07-07-2016, 02:37 PM)gtavmofo Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon any news on creating a ASC 6G prototype?
When DMSI is done 6G will be done. ASC will come after he is done building the MHS, and GRP10.
(07-06-2016, 10:25 PM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: [ -> ] (07-06-2016, 08:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I just had a really interesting idea: what if I could make a sub based on the Optimus Engine that would cause a man to somehow know how every woman around him subconsciously wants to be treated in order for her to respond with sex, and then get him to automatically and continually treat her that way if she is someone he wants to have sex with?
I like this idea. And hopefully the next phrasing is good too. I'm a little late here, but I didn't like the other goal-phrasing statement, as it sounded like we will only be attracting the ones who we are already sexually attracted to us - however doesn't extend to others. Whereas the idea of affecting every women around you, given you are a man, is ideal.
You are referring to
Quote:all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them
which would indeed be the case that it would target those females who want to seduce you into having sex with them.
The idea being that
- Low hanging fruit is the easiest to get, and if she already wants to seduce you, 3/4ths of the job is already done.
- Many females want, but hide and stifle their desires instead of acting on them. Very likely many more than you would expect.
- More sex would result quickly and easily.
- More sex.
- More sex.
But currently this phrasing is not in the running for the final option.
(07-06-2016, 10:52 PM)heavysm Wrote: [ -> ]For Shannon regarding EPRHA 2.0...
I know you said that it's intended to tell us naturally when we are healed and ready to stop listening, but what if we get an intuitive ping to possibly stop at 2 months (lets say) rather than finish a full 3 months?
I only ask because this feeling came out of no where, but it was a clear idea to stop at 2 - 3 months of use. I'll just go with what you say here, but the feeling i got was to stop at 2 months if deemed safe, if not definitely stop at 3 months and move on as I had been with BASE.
Please note that I'm not trying to piss you off questioning your instructions, but I feel this is a grey area situation that ultimately you can answer with a straight answer which I WILL follow.
The program is designed to guide you to stick with it until you have healed enough, and when you have, to release that desire. It may be that your subconscious is simply asking for a break to prevent boredom. You should trust your intuition first on this one, but don't allow your subconscious to talk you into thinking resistance is an intuition to stop early.
(07-06-2016, 11:13 PM)Hercules Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, will a complete run of EPHRA erase generational trauma inherited from our DNA.
I have no knowledge of, or evidence of, there being generational trauma inherited from DNA. I therefore cannot answer that question. I would suspect that there is no such thing, and therefore the answer is no, but if that does exist, it is theoretically within the scope of the instruction set, as it uses the polymorphic Optimus Engine. And if that is within the scope of ability of the subconscious mind, which I believe it is, then if such a thing does exist, it would seem reasonable to presume that E2 could in fact make such a change happen through a willing subconscious.
(07-07-2016, 12:34 AM)jacksonchandra Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, did DMSI 2.1 still using Energy Flooding from food? Or overall from non-physical sources? Or still both?
2.1 uses only non-physical energy, which is apparently why you're seeing it be a lot less dramatic and a lot longer to power up.
The first version used food almost exclusively.
Version 2.2 will use whatever is best as a way to achieve the goal, from both physical and nonphysical sources of energy.
(07-07-2016, 12:50 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ] (07-06-2016, 03:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Good old Swisston, always the contrarian. 
Welcome to my brain! I am hoping that it is taken as intended - an insight into what I think that my subconscious will go for. I assume that it is helpful for you.
I will be happy just getting the internal effects of confidence, lack of neediness, increased 'status' etc. even if the aura isn't going to be effective. That was never my primary interest in the sub.
I want to have a better, more intense connection with people, women especially.
I will keep testing, and v2.2 so that you have some feedback on how it works on people in a LTR.
I'm not taking any offense. I perceptive your responses as being an example of a challenge that remains to be worked out in finding a universal solution, if such a thing exists.
(07-07-2016, 02:14 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ] (07-06-2016, 04:10 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:but I'm just not sure I understand where its taking me enough to trust it
It? It is just a set of instructions that will guide you to a state of being healed, and emotionally happy and healthy. I think you "don't trust it" because you want what you want more than you want what you need, and you're afraid you might not be able to get what you want after you get what you need.
Build a house on sand, or build it on stone. Takes the same time to build the house itself. But the house lasts a lot longer on stone because that is what it needs to stay strong.
I think you are correct that I ""don't trust it" because you want what you want more than you want what you need, and you're afraid you might not be able to get what you want after you get what you need.". This is sort of what I was trying to describe.
But what is it that I "need", and why do I need it?
If I'm running E2, the why is to get to "a state of being healed, and emotionally happy and healthy", also regenerating, etc. What I need then could be something like feeding the birds, living quietly out by the countryside, maybe finding a nice girl to settle down with and live with a nice large family where everything is open and shared. Take up wood working. Maybe that is happiness, honestly idk.
If I was running SM/AM, the why would be something like to get to a state of being totally confident, sexually charged, playful, and driven to seek and actively carve out what I want and enjoy in life, powerful and influential. And therefore what I need would also be different, correct? What I need is to get on with it. Heal enough so that I don't do these things out of competition and trying to prove myself, but because I want to experience this life from this pov that I most enjoy. Deal with the GSF that's immediately in front of me, then push in and spearhead my way forward. How does this guy think about switching over to live like the E2 guy? What about the other way around?
As I understand, E2 does not have programming in it to consider that I'll eventually (well, quickly) want to reach the latter states. So the fear is that this wood worker, this now emotionally committed, bird feeding, calm & quiet man who apparently likes to sleep in every day will look at the AM/SM goals and say "why would I want that?". And then, the house never got built at all.
I don't want to be d***, complaining about a program that clearly works for what it does. In 3 months, E2 has already helped me open up in a way. Probably made me kinder, more understanding, less nervous. Thing is, its not gonna be done until its done all the way, and I'm thinking I should jump back now or almost now, and start heading towards my original direction. But of course E2 is bringing up some stuff, and now I feel "bad" for getting off of it. So I'm stuck, and it feels I should already be going about the building part since I've already temporarily lived in those states I want - just want to make consistent.
You feel bad (guilt/shame) for getting off it?
If you are experiencing guilt and shame, still, then you are not done healing.
If you are AFRAID that you might miss your goals by using the program that is designed to remove FEAR, then you are not done being cleared of fear.
Once you get through the healing, your inward focus will shift outward again and you'll be able to do anything. It's not going to turn you into a passive bird feeder.
Think you just closed that case as to what you should be doing - but it's your call.
(07-07-2016, 05:31 AM)Steven Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
I wanted your input on something I've never seen before and it happened when I was using DMSI.
I was talking with a woman and after about 3 minutes of conversation I noticed one of her hands was trembling. She also seemed to be getting a bit flushed on her chest and her cheeks. But that's not what surprised me so much.
What did surprise me that I'd never seen before was at some point, she tilted her head slightly down and was looking me in the eyes. As she continued to look at me with that head position, she kept licking her lips (not side to side but rather) by moving her tongue straight out about 1/2 an inch to 1 inch and then pulling it straight back into her mouth. She seemed to do this very quickly and she did it more than 4 times.
When I went to leave she said "Thank you". When I asked what she was thanking me for, she said "Just for stopping by". (This is a woman who I'm sure is constantly pursued by men.)
You seem to know quite a bit about body language so your input and insights would be appreciated, Shannon.
The body language you describe is potentially signalling one of two different things. I would have to see video of it to know which it is for sure.
The majority of the probability for what was going on is that she was attracted to you and focused on you as a result. I would say she was signalling that she likes you and is open to getting to know you better if you're interested. I suggest that a gentle offer of doing that might be a good idea.
(07-07-2016, 09:53 AM)Ricardo Wrote: [ -> ]Currently accepted for consideration of the goal scripting of DMSI 2.2:
all of the people between the legal age of sexual consent and the maximum age I am willing to have sex with, of the gender I am sexually attracted to
all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them
I'm just wondering how this last statement would help as I'd interpret that as being to only attract the women that would want to have sex with me anyway. In which case what's the point of the sub?
There are some women who would want to have sex with me but they are definitely not the ones or types I want
You have no idea what women think privately.
Those women who want to fuck you, more than 9 out of 10 of them, I would bet you never had a clue they wanted to.
When the models tell me that that phrasing produces a good response from the majority of my customers, it means that the majority of my customers get results from it that makes them very happy. Meaning that:
- The majority of women who want to have sex with you are hiding it too well for you to know they want to, and
- There are a lot more women who want to have sex with you, who you would like to have sex with, than you realize.
