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(09-03-2016, 06:00 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I believe you should simply tell her that you are realizing that in the past you've done things differently because of a fear of genuine intimacy, and she is bringing up that fear because she is someone you feel for genuinely, and please bear with me while I try to sort this out, because you are someone I really like and I think we could have something really good if I can let go of this trauma from my past experiences.

Shannon, you have much more experience with women than I do. I thought that saying something like this to a girl, especially before having sex with her, equals death in terms of attraction.

Maybe I'm missing something. Why is it okay to say something like that?
(09-03-2016, 07:02 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2016, 06:00 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I believe you should simply tell her that you are realizing that in the past you've done things differently because of a fear of genuine intimacy, and she is bringing up that fear because she is someone you feel for genuinely, and please bear with me while I try to sort this out, because you are someone I really like and I think we could have something really good if I can let go of this trauma from my past experiences.

Shannon, you have much more experience with women than I do. I thought that saying something like this to a girl, especially before having sex with her, equals death in terms of attraction.

Maybe I'm missing something. Why is it okay to say something like that?

It's not a simple black and white answer. You have to know when to say it and what to say in expressing it. It won't work in all situations or for all women, but in Chaos' situation, he is dealing with a woman of high value who is interested in an emotional connection and a relationship with him, and she is educated, intelligent and mature.

Such a woman is going to appreciate the fact that he is genuinely interested and is openly communicating to her that he is interested also, but he is discovering that this is showing him that he has something to deal with in terms of fear of intimacy. He is interested enough to fix that, but he doesn't want her to only see things from her point of view because if he does try to self sabotage or something like that, her not understanding where he is coming from could destroy his shot with this woman, who seems a very good catch from what I have read.

Doing this correctly will only serve to demonstrate to her that:

A) He is honest.
B) He is human.
C) He is genuinely interested in her for reasons other than just sex.
D) He has vulnerability (has been hurt before).
E) He is self aware.
F) He is ready and willing to overcome the issue he faces concerning genuine intimacy, and
G) He needs her to understand his situation while he does overcome it so she understands anything that happens out of the ordinary.
H) He respects and values her enough to tell her these things.

Dome right, this will magnify her respect, interest, attraction and investment in him in ways that will lead to a stronger relationship with her.

The difference here from Chaos' situation and what you're taling about is:

1. Chaos is dealing with a woman, not a girl. The difference being maturity. Immature females run away from intimacy, especially if it is presented at the wrong time and/or in the wrong way.

2. Chaos is developing a relationship with this woman, not just trying to bang and bounce as he puts it. If you're going for just sex, emotional intimacy is probably not what you want to be expressing. Sexual attraction, devoid of everything else, is what you seem to be thinking in terms of.
SO! What are the new additions and changes and tweaks from 2.3 to 2.4? Smile
(09-03-2016, 11:48 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]SO! What are the new additions and changes and tweaks from 2.3 to 2.4? Smile

  1. Many tweaks in many different areas of the script and modules.
  2. Added and optimized SEBAM tech module.
  3. Added and optimized MAFE tech module.
  4. Addedand optimized RIFX tech module.
  5. Added added and optimized MIIX tech module.
  6. Tripled the number of statements in the SATT module.
  7. Enabled SVX and focused it on achieving the goals ofthe program.
  8. Optimized ATMX module.
  9. Enabled the OGSF module and all related sub-modules, and focused them on achieving the goals of the program.
  10. Added the surprise.
  11. Heavily modified and optimized the goal phrasing.
(09-03-2016, 11:48 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]SO! What are the new additions and changes and tweaks from 2.3 to 2.4? Smile

I think you forgot to specify that the answer should be in a language we all understand.
(09-04-2016, 12:14 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-03-2016, 11:48 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]SO! What are the new additions and changes and tweaks from 2.3 to 2.4? Smile

I think you forgot to specify that the answer should be in a language we all understand.

Agreed but at the end of the day I'm only interested in results not rhetoric. So far the sub is unimpressive at best and it'll be something if 2.4 can even get close to the specified goals.
I'm not giving up on the the sub but lets be realistic, the goals have got to be brought into line with reality now. They are currently way out of Shannon's league as we've seen.
I remember Shannon said that the 2.3 goal statement won out of the models he ran.
But it seems like 2.4 will have a new or at least a modified statement.

Once the sub is completely finished, will it be aimed at hitting as many girls as possible or just aimed at the ones I particularly find attractive? If it's the latter, I may buy it before final release so I can have one aimed at hitting as many as possible.
I thought the OGSF + healing modules were already modified in 2.2 to specifically target the goals of the program?

Edit: From Goal 4 - "This program uses a number of very advanced methods to achieve this goal, but there is no guarantee that you can not still resist it if you have enough fear stopping you. However, the program is designed to overcome fear based resistance over time and transform it into acceptance and success achieving the goals of the program. "
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ASRB
Can't help myself! Added MAFE and SEBAM technology modules. Smile.

Keith's response: ASRB sounds like an AirForce Base, and MAFE & SEBAM..... Mafe sounds like a little bad ass chihuahua with a serious bite and attitude,and SEBAM sounds like a goofy ass lovable duffus of a Mastif, Shannon.:-) All these new TOP SECRET technologies with all these serious abbreviations..IM shure they effectively kick ass !! 9/4/16
(09-04-2016, 06:06 AM)kenpachi Wrote: [ -> ]I thought the OGSF + healing modules were already modified in 2.2 to specifically target the goals of the program?

From what I understand, the healing modules from v2.2 were based on E2's healing method, which works very well for that particular program.

Sounds like the v2.4 healing has been "scaled back" for lack of a better term -- more like adjusted -- to fit the needs of this program. Same target, different method of action.
(09-04-2016, 06:00 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Once the sub is completely finished, will it be aimed at hitting as many girls as possible or just aimed at the ones I particularly find attractive? If it's the latter, I may buy it before final release so I can have one aimed at hitting as many as possible.

How will you know unless you try it?? My version of attractiveness on a scale from 1 to 10 is different from yours and someone else.

If you remember, originally the focus was to single out the ones you find particularly attractive. Then (The Forum) requested to get as many females as possible hitting on you to increase your "social status".
I'm optimistic about this DMSI series. Shannon may be the first, and perhaps even create a new reality for us. If it's yet to be done, I'm willing to be the first.
(09-04-2016, 06:06 AM)kenpachi Wrote: [ -> ]I thought the OGSF + healing modules were already modified in 2.2 to specifically target the goals of the program?

I thought the same thing.
(09-04-2016, 06:12 AM)Steven Wrote: [ -> ]I'm optimistic about this DMSI series. Shannon may be the first, and perhaps even create a new reality for us. If it's yet to be done, I'm willing to be the first.

Yeah, Ricardo's just being a Rascal Ricky. You could probably run v1 for a few months and have a reality shaking experience.
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