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(04-03-2016, 07:48 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 05:28 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, is it fine for me to listen to isochronic tones/binaural beats while I listen to EPRHA 2.0? Do I need to limit how often or long I do it?

I wanted to do an isochronic tone root chakra meditation, but only if it didn't interfere with the sub.

Isochronic tones and binaural beats are a form of state shifting. If you use them with the program, there will be a clash of what the brain is being instructed to do, and at best, this will wither neutralize both or cause major confusion. Definitely don't do it. Either turn EHPRA 2.0 off for a half hour, use the tones/beats, and then turn it back on, or pick one.

Also, can the audio have audible affirmations in it or should I use one that's only instrumental?
@Frosted

Switch to masked only until your ears heal.... or gibe yourself a few days break, and add on to the end of the stage with 1.5x formula.... protect yourself and don't wrekt yaself
(04-02-2016, 06:57 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2016, 01:07 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]What are the pros & cons of building a subliminal that is heavily focused on external changes/manifesting ? Like if you build a subliminal, lets call it Luxurious Lifestyles and it focuses on attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business etc..(external changes). If a sub is focused on that what are the pros & cons ?
I know that sometimes, attracting things to you can take up a lot of energy in a person. So a sub created to attract only cannot exist because it would use up too much energy in a person ? What are the pros & cons ?

I am not sure I understand your question, but I'll try to answer.

A manifestation sub is limited by the amount of energy that it can be fed by, and that is limited by the amount of energy you can consciously and/or subconsciously control and direct, no matter what the source is.

Given these limits, there will never be a sub that can "focuses on attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business etc." all at once and make it happen quickly. You're talking about huge changes to yourself and your life and lifestyle. The change must be equal to or less than the energy given to do the work (make the change). That's a basic fact of reality. You cannot get more return than you put energy in to achieve the return.

The pros and cons - well, pros are that you can do more with an active manifestation and it is more powerful and faster acting. The cons are that it is still not guaranteed to work - although they should be much more likely to work - and you are still limited by how much energy would be required to achieve the goal.

There are two factors: energy and time. So we can express it like this:

Speed and certainty is equal to energy over time. SC = E/T

If we need a million units of energy to achieve the goal, then we can only achieve that goal if we expend at least 1 million units of energy focused on achieving that goal.

If the energy source can supply that energy all at once, you can theoretically expend it all, all at once, and immediately and absolutely manifest your goal.

But, realistically, the energy, every single unit, must be controlled, focused and directed. This is limited by how much you can control, focus and direct per unit of time.

So if you can control, focus and direct 200 units of energy per unit of time, then you will need at least 1,000,000/200 units of time to achieve the goal.

I think the solution to manifesting what I mentioned ( attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business, etc...) is simply changing beliefs about oneself. If you create a subliminal that shifts beliefs to " I am now ultra -wealthy, ultra-prosperous & ultra-luxurious, etc..." it will surely manifest those things as a result. Maybe an Ultra-Wealthy sub similar to Ultra-Success will accomplish that.

I heard it said that if you vibrate at the levels of love, joy & higher you start naturally attracting all the things that will cause you love, joy, etc...What are your thoughts on that ? If you create a subliminal based on that, do you think it will yield great results ?
(04-03-2016, 10:16 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]Okay so I used my aunts high quality, newer phone and realized that my phone wasn't reading properly... the max volume I listen to is actually -35 db and that's TS so US should be louder than that slightly... yeah wtf I hope this hasn't caused permanent hearing damage. A friend told me that he thinks that the loud noise is peeling the skin off my eardrum and if I let it rest it'll grow back otherwise I'll go deaf. Hopefully a doctor can give me some good news Sad.

I don't want to quit WM2 now so close to the end so tonight I'm just gonna turn it down, I turned it down to -50db.

Edit: I also tried cleaning my ears out with hydrogen peroxide (suggested by somebody in my thread and also by my aunt) but it didn't do anything. In fact I think it made it worse if anything. My aunt thinks that the reason I can't hear well is built up wax but I disagree my ears feel clean, I washed them out vigorously with hydrogen peroxide and used q-tips. Everything seems slightly tinny and my ears are ringing with a very high pitch and it feels like I just got done swiming and there's water in my ears. My left is worse than my right.

Sorry if I sound irrational but I really don't want to go deaf or lose quality of life due to ***** up ears Sad, its already annoying because my ears are slightly sensitive and I can't hear details in sounds very well.

-35 dB isn't going to make you go deaf. +35, maybe. -35? Not a chance.

Just use masked for a while and see if that helps. Whenever tinnitus is an issue, always favor masked format. You'd have to be playing an ultrasonic a lot louder than -35 dB and for a long time to affect your hearing. I understand that you've been using masked format primarily, is that correct?
(04-04-2016, 01:48 AM)Natious Wrote: [ -> ]Measured the loudness of ultrasonic at it was at -55dB, is that still within the safe range?

-55 is fine.
(04-04-2016, 05:34 AM)Vincent_Vega Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-01-2016, 07:57 AM)Vincent_Vega Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, may you answer this question?

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7280-p...#pid105660

Push

I understand you are wanting to know if AOS causes manifestations of attraction response and result. As far as I have seen, it adjusts your personal energy to become very, very attractive to others - not everyone, but those who are within "phase range" of your energy. In other words, those who are in harmony with the energy you are projecting.

This can appear to be manifestation because of certain esoteric factors which probably go outside the scope of this discussion. Suffice it to say that those we are aware of, are connected to us, and when we change our energy they notice and respond, even at a distance. It's just usually not obvious.
(04-04-2016, 05:59 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 07:48 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 05:28 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, is it fine for me to listen to isochronic tones/binaural beats while I listen to EPRHA 2.0? Do I need to limit how often or long I do it?

I wanted to do an isochronic tone root chakra meditation, but only if it didn't interfere with the sub.

Isochronic tones and binaural beats are a form of state shifting. If you use them with the program, there will be a clash of what the brain is being instructed to do, and at best, this will wither neutralize both or cause major confusion. Definitely don't do it. Either turn EHPRA 2.0 off for a half hour, use the tones/beats, and then turn it back on, or pick one.

Also, can the audio have audible affirmations in it or should I use one that's only instrumental?

Only use instrumental if you are going to use them. script conflict is not a good thing.
(04-04-2016, 06:33 AM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]@Frosted

Switch to masked only until your ears heal.... or gibe yourself a few days break, and add on to the end of the stage with 1.5x formula.... protect yourself and don't wrekt yaself

I think I have said this three times now, but who knows...
(04-04-2016, 08:19 AM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2016, 06:57 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2016, 01:07 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]What are the pros & cons of building a subliminal that is heavily focused on external changes/manifesting ? Like if you build a subliminal, lets call it Luxurious Lifestyles and it focuses on attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business etc..(external changes). If a sub is focused on that what are the pros & cons ?
I know that sometimes, attracting things to you can take up a lot of energy in a person. So a sub created to attract only cannot exist because it would use up too much energy in a person ? What are the pros & cons ?

I am not sure I understand your question, but I'll try to answer.

A manifestation sub is limited by the amount of energy that it can be fed by, and that is limited by the amount of energy you can consciously and/or subconsciously control and direct, no matter what the source is.

Given these limits, there will never be a sub that can "focuses on attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business etc." all at once and make it happen quickly. You're talking about huge changes to yourself and your life and lifestyle. The change must be equal to or less than the energy given to do the work (make the change). That's a basic fact of reality. You cannot get more return than you put energy in to achieve the return.

The pros and cons - well, pros are that you can do more with an active manifestation and it is more powerful and faster acting. The cons are that it is still not guaranteed to work - although they should be much more likely to work - and you are still limited by how much energy would be required to achieve the goal.

There are two factors: energy and time. So we can express it like this:

Speed and certainty is equal to energy over time. SC = E/T

If we need a million units of energy to achieve the goal, then we can only achieve that goal if we expend at least 1 million units of energy focused on achieving that goal.

If the energy source can supply that energy all at once, you can theoretically expend it all, all at once, and immediately and absolutely manifest your goal.

But, realistically, the energy, every single unit, must be controlled, focused and directed. This is limited by how much you can control, focus and direct per unit of time.

So if you can control, focus and direct 200 units of energy per unit of time, then you will need at least 1,000,000/200 units of time to achieve the goal.

I think the solution to manifesting what I mentioned ( attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business, etc...) is simply changing beliefs about oneself. If you create a subliminal that shifts beliefs to " I am now ultra -wealthy, ultra-prosperous & ultra-luxurious, etc..." it will surely manifest those things as a result. Maybe an Ultra-Wealthy sub similar to Ultra-Success will accomplish that.

I heard it said that if you vibrate at the levels of love, joy & higher you start naturally attracting all the things that will cause you love, joy, etc...What are your thoughts on that ? If you create a subliminal based on that, do you think it will yield great results ?

Changing your core beliefs eventually does manifest the corresponding outward changes. However, this can take a very long time in some cases, because again, energy is required.

If I change my beliefs to those that will naturally and automatically result in becoming a millionaire, and I make no expenditure of energy outwardly to achieve the goal, it will come to be eventually, but that may be decades and maybe I won't even live long enough.

If I also add in a lot of conscious action and effort to achieve the goal, it will happen much faster because work requires energy, and change requires work.
(04-04-2016, 09:41 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2016, 08:19 AM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2016, 06:57 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2016, 01:07 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]What are the pros & cons of building a subliminal that is heavily focused on external changes/manifesting ? Like if you build a subliminal, lets call it Luxurious Lifestyles and it focuses on attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business etc..(external changes). If a sub is focused on that what are the pros & cons ?
I know that sometimes, attracting things to you can take up a lot of energy in a person. So a sub created to attract only cannot exist because it would use up too much energy in a person ? What are the pros & cons ?

I am not sure I understand your question, but I'll try to answer.

A manifestation sub is limited by the amount of energy that it can be fed by, and that is limited by the amount of energy you can consciously and/or subconsciously control and direct, no matter what the source is.

Given these limits, there will never be a sub that can "focuses on attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business etc." all at once and make it happen quickly. You're talking about huge changes to yourself and your life and lifestyle. The change must be equal to or less than the energy given to do the work (make the change). That's a basic fact of reality. You cannot get more return than you put energy in to achieve the return.

The pros and cons - well, pros are that you can do more with an active manifestation and it is more powerful and faster acting. The cons are that it is still not guaranteed to work - although they should be much more likely to work - and you are still limited by how much energy would be required to achieve the goal.

There are two factors: energy and time. So we can express it like this:

Speed and certainty is equal to energy over time. SC = E/T

If we need a million units of energy to achieve the goal, then we can only achieve that goal if we expend at least 1 million units of energy focused on achieving that goal.

If the energy source can supply that energy all at once, you can theoretically expend it all, all at once, and immediately and absolutely manifest your goal.

But, realistically, the energy, every single unit, must be controlled, focused and directed. This is limited by how much you can control, focus and direct per unit of time.

So if you can control, focus and direct 200 units of energy per unit of time, then you will need at least 1,000,000/200 units of time to achieve the goal.

I think the solution to manifesting what I mentioned ( attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business, etc...) is simply changing beliefs about oneself. If you create a subliminal that shifts beliefs to " I am now ultra -wealthy, ultra-prosperous & ultra-luxurious, etc..." it will surely manifest those things as a result. Maybe an Ultra-Wealthy sub similar to Ultra-Success will accomplish that.

I heard it said that if you vibrate at the levels of love, joy & higher you start naturally attracting all the things that will cause you love, joy, etc...What are your thoughts on that ? If you create a subliminal based on that, do you think it will yield great results ?

Changing your core beliefs eventually does manifest the corresponding outward changes. However, this can take a very long time in some cases, because again, energy is required.

If I change my beliefs to those that will naturally and automatically result in becoming a millionaire, and I make no expenditure of energy outwardly to achieve the goal, it will come to be eventually, but that may be decades and maybe I won't even live long enough.

If I also add in a lot of conscious action and effort to achieve the goal, it will happen much faster because work requires energy, and change requires work.
Yeah, at the tenth year mark, financially you want to be at your first billion.
I want to do goals now. How would you write/set down a goal & what's your way of achieving goals you set ? Listen to subliminal and work hard on goals ?
(04-04-2016, 11:55 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2016, 09:35 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 10:16 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]Okay so I used my aunts high quality, newer phone and realized that my phone wasn't reading properly... the max volume I listen to is actually -35 db and that's TS so US should be louder than that slightly... yeah wtf I hope this hasn't caused permanent hearing damage. A friend told me that he thinks that the loud noise is peeling the skin off my eardrum and if I let it rest it'll grow back otherwise I'll go deaf. Hopefully a doctor can give me some good news Sad.

I don't want to quit WM2 now so close to the end so tonight I'm just gonna turn it down, I turned it down to -50db.

Edit: I also tried cleaning my ears out with hydrogen peroxide (suggested by somebody in my thread and also by my aunt) but it didn't do anything. In fact I think it made it worse if anything. My aunt thinks that the reason I can't hear well is built up wax but I disagree my ears feel clean, I washed them out vigorously with hydrogen peroxide and used q-tips. Everything seems slightly tinny and my ears are ringing with a very high pitch and it feels like I just got done swiming and there's water in my ears. My left is worse than my right.

Sorry if I sound irrational but I really don't want to go deaf or lose quality of life due to ***** up ears Sad, its already annoying because my ears are slightly sensitive and I can't hear details in sounds very well.

-35 dB isn't going to make you go deaf. +35, maybe. -35? Not a chance.

Just use masked for a while and see if that helps. Whenever tinnitus is an issue, always favor masked format. You'd have to be playing an ultrasonic a lot louder than -35 dB and for a long time to affect your hearing. I understand that you've been using masked format primarily, is that correct?

I use them both about equally, TS while sleeping so 8-10 hours and US during the day to bring the hours up to whatever I want (was 16-20 so 8-12 hours). Since WM2 doesn't have unbalancing I hear, I will feel more comfortable listening only 8-10 hours TS on a lower volume for awhile (I'd been listening 16-20 on the stages 1-4 and I just started stage 5).

I looked up the symptoms of my problem and I think that the problem is built up wax or something because I had this high pitched ringing and hearing loss isssue right after I poked a cotton swab in my ears for cleaning. I think the "hearing loss" I was experiencing before this incident must've just been tinnitus from US making me not be able to hear/focus on sounds as well or something. In any case I'm gonna try to see a doctor to get this whole thing sorted out.

Thanks for answering my questions and putting my mind at ease.

P.S I had my volume pretty high before but I lowered it by 30% and the dream I had last night was more intense and absorbing than the ones I'd been getting before. Either lower/balanced sound is better or its because I started a new stage last night or something. I really wonder if its true that higher volume is better, maybe its a lower volume or a more balanced one...

My studies of the optimal volume to use have revealed the following.

Volume plots, for effectiveness, in a series of spikes on a chart of lowest to highest. Usually there is a small spike at the lowest volumes, and then a bigger one at the middle volumes, and another one somewhere in the higher volumes. There can be sub-spikes as well.

In almost all cases, the optimal volume plots out to somewhere in the middle or high volumes. But the specific volume is dependent on the person, personality, generation of sub, goal of sub, amount of resistance, amount of usage, etc.

I have to use the predictive models to achieve optimal volume. You guys can't do that, so you have to use a range. The optimal range usually is -65 to -55 at the source, presuming you're close by.

If you get the volume too low, it may be out of alignment with your brain activity or it may be easily overpowered by resistance. If you get it too high, you risk hearing issues and resistance based on too much perceptory pressure. Thus, -55 to -65 is usually a good range.

I use it higher sometimes, occasionally as high as -32, but that's with the guidance of the predictive models and for very specific purposes. When I listen overnight, I play it at -65 dB on my nightstand.

Too loud is just as bad as too soft.
(04-04-2016, 12:14 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2016, 09:41 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2016, 08:19 AM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2016, 06:57 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-02-2016, 01:07 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]What are the pros & cons of building a subliminal that is heavily focused on external changes/manifesting ? Like if you build a subliminal, lets call it Luxurious Lifestyles and it focuses on attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business etc..(external changes). If a sub is focused on that what are the pros & cons ?
I know that sometimes, attracting things to you can take up a lot of energy in a person. So a sub created to attract only cannot exist because it would use up too much energy in a person ? What are the pros & cons ?

I am not sure I understand your question, but I'll try to answer.

A manifestation sub is limited by the amount of energy that it can be fed by, and that is limited by the amount of energy you can consciously and/or subconsciously control and direct, no matter what the source is.

Given these limits, there will never be a sub that can "focuses on attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business etc." all at once and make it happen quickly. You're talking about huge changes to yourself and your life and lifestyle. The change must be equal to or less than the energy given to do the work (make the change). That's a basic fact of reality. You cannot get more return than you put energy in to achieve the return.

The pros and cons - well, pros are that you can do more with an active manifestation and it is more powerful and faster acting. The cons are that it is still not guaranteed to work - although they should be much more likely to work - and you are still limited by how much energy would be required to achieve the goal.

There are two factors: energy and time. So we can express it like this:

Speed and certainty is equal to energy over time. SC = E/T

If we need a million units of energy to achieve the goal, then we can only achieve that goal if we expend at least 1 million units of energy focused on achieving that goal.

If the energy source can supply that energy all at once, you can theoretically expend it all, all at once, and immediately and absolutely manifest your goal.

But, realistically, the energy, every single unit, must be controlled, focused and directed. This is limited by how much you can control, focus and direct per unit of time.

So if you can control, focus and direct 200 units of energy per unit of time, then you will need at least 1,000,000/200 units of time to achieve the goal.

I think the solution to manifesting what I mentioned ( attracting friends that are wealthy & fun-loving, attracting wealth in superabundance, attracting compliments on your success, attracting a successful business, etc...) is simply changing beliefs about oneself. If you create a subliminal that shifts beliefs to " I am now ultra -wealthy, ultra-prosperous & ultra-luxurious, etc..." it will surely manifest those things as a result. Maybe an Ultra-Wealthy sub similar to Ultra-Success will accomplish that.

I heard it said that if you vibrate at the levels of love, joy & higher you start naturally attracting all the things that will cause you love, joy, etc...What are your thoughts on that ? If you create a subliminal based on that, do you think it will yield great results ?

Changing your core beliefs eventually does manifest the corresponding outward changes. However, this can take a very long time in some cases, because again, energy is required.

If I change my beliefs to those that will naturally and automatically result in becoming a millionaire, and I make no expenditure of energy outwardly to achieve the goal, it will come to be eventually, but that may be decades and maybe I won't even live long enough.

If I also add in a lot of conscious action and effort to achieve the goal, it will happen much faster because work requires energy, and change requires work.
Yeah, at the tenth year mark, financially you want to be at your first billion.
I want to do goals now. How would you write down a goal ? Is your formula for goal achievement, use a subliminal and work hard at the same time ?

If you find your first billion at the 10 year mark, congratulations. I'm at 13 years and still working on my first million. But you have to consider that different people are naturally going to achieve at different speeds. Generally, the faster you go, the less certainty there is of your success. So you have to find a balance between risk and reward.

Writing down a goal is just being as specific as possible. I use my subliminal and work toward the goal at the same time, yes. As to how "hard" you have to work, that depends on what exactly you are working at. Some people have to work long and hard (like me) and some get an idea that makes them rich overnight as if by magic. It all depends.

Work smarter, not harder, as they say. Then work harder too. Smile
(04-04-2016, 09:39 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2016, 05:59 AM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 07:48 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 05:28 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, is it fine for me to listen to isochronic tones/binaural beats while I listen to EPRHA 2.0? Do I need to limit how often or long I do it?

I wanted to do an isochronic tone root chakra meditation, but only if it didn't interfere with the sub.

Isochronic tones and binaural beats are a form of state shifting. If you use them with the program, there will be a clash of what the brain is being instructed to do, and at best, this will wither neutralize both or cause major confusion. Definitely don't do it. Either turn EHPRA 2.0 off for a half hour, use the tones/beats, and then turn it back on, or pick one.

Also, can the audio have audible affirmations in it or should I use one that's only instrumental?

Only use instrumental if you are going to use them. script conflict is not a good thing.

I just realized the audio only has solfeggio tones and platonic frequencies. No binaural beats or isochronic tones. They're just certain frequencies.

Do I still need to use it separately from the sub? Thanks again!
shannon, to avoid starting new thread for this, i request your advice on here....

i'm getting the opportunity to start on a business venture in the middle of may, so i plan on running BASE 2.1..
so my question is: should i wait until i get immersed in the work to start BASE (thereby giving additional time to continue E2)? or should i start it in 2 days (when 32 days of E2 is up)?

thanks
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