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(10-05-2016, 02:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 02:35 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 01:30 PM)AAA Wrote: [ -> ]Do subliminal have the potency to change/alter genes or the way they respond ? Like how.several researchers have concluded meditation can? This guy Lee pulls designed a course that affected cell level memories, in the course there was a deep trance identification part, I had one listen and it changed me for days before the old patterns creeped back in.

The secret to every man's success or failure is whether or not suggestions are able to implant in the subconscious. I personally have a theory that our conscious minds can filter out almost 100% of the suggestions we receive,even below the threshhold of awareness/hearing(which don't coincide with our current beliefs), so the critical part is really when we are in alpha or theta and it isn't as active. A book I read suggests that Delta is actually not optimal as the suggestions will not be held onto.

I like the concept of subliminals but I think that using true hypnosis where suggestions encounter no resistance is probably the most efficient means of programming in the shortest amount of time. Subs will definitely make an impact over time if you stick with them though.

The conscious mind cannot filter what they do not have access to; therefore, anything that is genuinely subliminal will not be affected by or affectable by the conscious mind except in terms of the way it affects the actions and reactions of the subconscious trying to express itself, which it can override and squelch in some cases.

The state of awareness you are in is only useful for affecting the conscious mind/state, and that will therefore only make a difference in terms of dealing with what the subconscious mind is trying to do or express. Not programming it with subliminals.

Since hypnosis relies on a cooperative conscious awareness, it will typically not work for a conscious mind that would resist/reject the effects of a subliminal anyway. Subliminals are a superior solution in this regard, especially with some of the technologies I have been developing.

True hypnosis, in the sense I meant it, is more like when you are completely focused on a television program and don't notice that your wife is talking to you. This brain state is basically the way people are programmed in general, especially by advertising and such which takes advantage of the 'open door' to ingrain imagery into your subconscious which will affect your buying decisions. I get what you're saying,but I feel like that if the conscious mind was unaware of the subliminals effects, there'd be no active resistance while listening the way a lot of people experience it.

The subconscious doesn't make judgments (from what I understand), it simply acts as a recorder for whatever is let in by the conscious and then plays it back, meaning that perhaps the conscious is probably being underestimated in general, in terms of how much it can actually comprehend/filter, I however pay good money on the basis of belief that you've created reliable tools for overwhelming those capabilities. Big Grin
(10-05-2016, 07:45 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 02:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 02:35 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 01:30 PM)AAA Wrote: [ -> ]Do subliminal have the potency to change/alter genes or the way they respond ? Like how.several researchers have concluded meditation can? This guy Lee pulls designed a course that affected cell level memories, in the course there was a deep trance identification part, I had one listen and it changed me for days before the old patterns creeped back in.

The secret to every man's success or failure is whether or not suggestions are able to implant in the subconscious. I personally have a theory that our conscious minds can filter out almost 100% of the suggestions we receive,even below the threshhold of awareness/hearing(which don't coincide with our current beliefs), so the critical part is really when we are in alpha or theta and it isn't as active. A book I read suggests that Delta is actually not optimal as the suggestions will not be held onto.

I like the concept of subliminals but I think that using true hypnosis where suggestions encounter no resistance is probably the most efficient means of programming in the shortest amount of time. Subs will definitely make an impact over time if you stick with them though.

The conscious mind cannot filter what they do not have access to; therefore, anything that is genuinely subliminal will not be affected by or affectable by the conscious mind except in terms of the way it affects the actions and reactions of the subconscious trying to express itself, which it can override and squelch in some cases.

The state of awareness you are in is only useful for affecting the conscious mind/state, and that will therefore only make a difference in terms of dealing with what the subconscious mind is trying to do or express. Not programming it with subliminals.

Since hypnosis relies on a cooperative conscious awareness, it will typically not work for a conscious mind that would resist/reject the effects of a subliminal anyway. Subliminals are a superior solution in this regard, especially with some of the technologies I have been developing.

True hypnosis, in the sense I meant it, is more like when you are completely focused on a television program and don't notice that your wife is talking to you. This brain state is basically the way people are programmed in general, especially by advertising and such which takes advantage of the 'open door' to ingrain imagery into your subconscious which will affect your buying decisions. I get what you're saying,but I feel like that if the conscious mind was unaware of the subliminals effects, there'd be no active resistance while listening the way a lot of people experience it.

The subconscious doesn't make judgments (from what I understand), it simply acts as a recorder for whatever is let in by the conscious and then plays it back, meaning that perhaps the conscious is probably being underestimated in general, in terms of how much it can actually comprehend/filter, I however pay good money on the basis of belief that you've created reliable tools for overwhelming those capabilities. Big Grin

Wouldn't the state you're referring to here be more of a zoned out phase.

And if we are on the topic of advertising, I'm not sure if you are referring to social programming or subliminal advertising.

I don't really think either of those states actually qualify as hypnotic states. Maybe trance like, but not hypnotic.

And actually, the subs are designed to bypass resistance because you are not actively aware of what is said in the script. It bypasses your conscious barrier anyway. Which is why the subs are much more effective than hypnosis.

We're at the same goal post, but I just wanted to understand the hypnosis portion of what you were stating, only because it actually interests me how we observe and are influenced by other factors.
(10-05-2016, 05:35 PM)Steven Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

Good luck with the hurricane!

Luck finds those who prepare. It will not be luck, my friend.
(10-05-2016, 07:45 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 02:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 02:35 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 01:30 PM)AAA Wrote: [ -> ]Do subliminal have the potency to change/alter genes or the way they respond ? Like how.several researchers have concluded meditation can? This guy Lee pulls designed a course that affected cell level memories, in the course there was a deep trance identification part, I had one listen and it changed me for days before the old patterns creeped back in.

The secret to every man's success or failure is whether or not suggestions are able to implant in the subconscious. I personally have a theory that our conscious minds can filter out almost 100% of the suggestions we receive,even below the threshhold of awareness/hearing(which don't coincide with our current beliefs), so the critical part is really when we are in alpha or theta and it isn't as active. A book I read suggests that Delta is actually not optimal as the suggestions will not be held onto.

I like the concept of subliminals but I think that using true hypnosis where suggestions encounter no resistance is probably the most efficient means of programming in the shortest amount of time. Subs will definitely make an impact over time if you stick with them though.

The conscious mind cannot filter what they do not have access to; therefore, anything that is genuinely subliminal will not be affected by or affectable by the conscious mind except in terms of the way it affects the actions and reactions of the subconscious trying to express itself, which it can override and squelch in some cases.

The state of awareness you are in is only useful for affecting the conscious mind/state, and that will therefore only make a difference in terms of dealing with what the subconscious mind is trying to do or express. Not programming it with subliminals.

Since hypnosis relies on a cooperative conscious awareness, it will typically not work for a conscious mind that would resist/reject the effects of a subliminal anyway. Subliminals are a superior solution in this regard, especially with some of the technologies I have been developing.

True hypnosis, in the sense I meant it, is more like when you are completely focused on a television program and don't notice that your wife is talking to you. This brain state is basically the way people are programmed in general, especially by advertising and such which takes advantage of the 'open door' to ingrain imagery into your subconscious which will affect your buying decisions. I get what you're saying,but I feel like that if the conscious mind was unaware of the subliminals effects, there'd be no active resistance while listening the way a lot of people experience it.

All hypnosis is true hypnosis, and all hypnosis is simply a state of awareness in which the conscious mind is relaxed enough for the subconscious to be accessed while the conscious mind is unable to function concerning its critical faculty.

Completely focused on a television program is a state of hypnosis just the same as what you can achieve through a hypnotist, or using brainwave entrainment. This brain state is basically the way people are more readily and easily programmed while they are conscious of what is being programmed even if they are only conscious in a relaxed or hyperfocused manner.

It actually doesn't take an open door to ingrain imagery into your subconscious, as the subconscious records all five senses from Day 0. However, creating programming for the subconscious must either bypass the conscious mind completely, or bypass it's critical faculty (hypnosis).

I have found in my time as a subliminals producer and researcher that the subconscious is quite capable of resisting based on the personality, volume of the subliminal and how much the script conflicts with current subconscious programming, or how much it triggers fear.

Quote:The subconscious doesn't make judgments (from what I understand), it simply acts as a recorder for whatever is let in by the conscious and then plays it back, meaning that perhaps the conscious is probably being underestimated in general, in terms of how much it can actually comprehend/filter, I however pay good money on the basis of belief that you've created reliable tools for overwhelming those capabilities. Big Grin

Th subconscious mind, or at least some parts of it, can and do make judgements. It is far more complex and advanced than a simple record and playback machine.

The conscious mind's limits and abilities are very well known to me after 24 years of studying it now. I started in 1992. I can assure you, no mistake has been made as to the limits and capabilities of the conscious vs the subconscious in what you are referring to. I bypass it, and I get it to cooperate, but I don't overwhelm it. You wouldn't be able to function if I was doing that. It is extremely limited.
(10-05-2016, 08:07 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 07:45 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 02:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 02:35 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 01:30 PM)AAA Wrote: [ -> ]Do subliminal have the potency to change/alter genes or the way they respond ? Like how.several researchers have concluded meditation can? This guy Lee pulls designed a course that affected cell level memories, in the course there was a deep trance identification part, I had one listen and it changed me for days before the old patterns creeped back in.

The secret to every man's success or failure is whether or not suggestions are able to implant in the subconscious. I personally have a theory that our conscious minds can filter out almost 100% of the suggestions we receive,even below the threshhold of awareness/hearing(which don't coincide with our current beliefs), so the critical part is really when we are in alpha or theta and it isn't as active. A book I read suggests that Delta is actually not optimal as the suggestions will not be held onto.

I like the concept of subliminals but I think that using true hypnosis where suggestions encounter no resistance is probably the most efficient means of programming in the shortest amount of time. Subs will definitely make an impact over time if you stick with them though.

The conscious mind cannot filter what they do not have access to; therefore, anything that is genuinely subliminal will not be affected by or affectable by the conscious mind except in terms of the way it affects the actions and reactions of the subconscious trying to express itself, which it can override and squelch in some cases.

The state of awareness you are in is only useful for affecting the conscious mind/state, and that will therefore only make a difference in terms of dealing with what the subconscious mind is trying to do or express. Not programming it with subliminals.

Since hypnosis relies on a cooperative conscious awareness, it will typically not work for a conscious mind that would resist/reject the effects of a subliminal anyway. Subliminals are a superior solution in this regard, especially with some of the technologies I have been developing.

True hypnosis, in the sense I meant it, is more like when you are completely focused on a television program and don't notice that your wife is talking to you. This brain state is basically the way people are programmed in general, especially by advertising and such which takes advantage of the 'open door' to ingrain imagery into your subconscious which will affect your buying decisions. I get what you're saying,but I feel like that if the conscious mind was unaware of the subliminals effects, there'd be no active resistance while listening the way a lot of people experience it.

The subconscious doesn't make judgments (from what I understand), it simply acts as a recorder for whatever is let in by the conscious and then plays it back, meaning that perhaps the conscious is probably being underestimated in general, in terms of how much it can actually comprehend/filter, I however pay good money on the basis of belief that you've created reliable tools for overwhelming those capabilities. Big Grin

Wouldn't the state you're referring to here be more of a zoned out phase.

It is a state of hypnosis.

Quote:And if we are on the topic of advertising, I'm not sure if you are referring to social programming or subliminal advertising.

I don't really think either of those states actually qualify as hypnotic states. Maybe trance like, but not hypnotic.

They do qualify as hypnotic states.
(10-06-2016, 04:00 AM)Jackson Chandra Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon,

In the last month I just feeling emptiness and some inner void, feeling that I am not connected to others, to enviroment, even feeling I am empty. Just empty, boring.

What's cause of this Shannon from your perseption?

I have far too little information at the moment to even formulate an educated guess.
(10-06-2016, 04:18 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 08:07 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 07:45 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 02:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 02:35 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]The secret to every man's success or failure is whether or not suggestions are able to implant in the subconscious. I personally have a theory that our conscious minds can filter out almost 100% of the suggestions we receive,even below the threshhold of awareness/hearing(which don't coincide with our current beliefs), so the critical part is really when we are in alpha or theta and it isn't as active. A book I read suggests that Delta is actually not optimal as the suggestions will not be held onto.

I like the concept of subliminals but I think that using true hypnosis where suggestions encounter no resistance is probably the most efficient means of programming in the shortest amount of time. Subs will definitely make an impact over time if you stick with them though.

The conscious mind cannot filter what they do not have access to; therefore, anything that is genuinely subliminal will not be affected by or affectable by the conscious mind except in terms of the way it affects the actions and reactions of the subconscious trying to express itself, which it can override and squelch in some cases.

The state of awareness you are in is only useful for affecting the conscious mind/state, and that will therefore only make a difference in terms of dealing with what the subconscious mind is trying to do or express. Not programming it with subliminals.

Since hypnosis relies on a cooperative conscious awareness, it will typically not work for a conscious mind that would resist/reject the effects of a subliminal anyway. Subliminals are a superior solution in this regard, especially with some of the technologies I have been developing.

True hypnosis, in the sense I meant it, is more like when you are completely focused on a television program and don't notice that your wife is talking to you. This brain state is basically the way people are programmed in general, especially by advertising and such which takes advantage of the 'open door' to ingrain imagery into your subconscious which will affect your buying decisions. I get what you're saying,but I feel like that if the conscious mind was unaware of the subliminals effects, there'd be no active resistance while listening the way a lot of people experience it.

The subconscious doesn't make judgments (from what I understand), it simply acts as a recorder for whatever is let in by the conscious and then plays it back, meaning that perhaps the conscious is probably being underestimated in general, in terms of how much it can actually comprehend/filter, I however pay good money on the basis of belief that you've created reliable tools for overwhelming those capabilities. Big Grin

Wouldn't the state you're referring to here be more of a zoned out phase.

It is a state of hypnosis.

Quote:And if we are on the topic of advertising, I'm not sure if you are referring to social programming or subliminal advertising.

I don't really think either of those states actually qualify as hypnotic states. Maybe trance like, but not hypnotic.

They do qualify as hypnotic states.

I stand corrected. I was under the impression that these were not considered hypnotic states.
Daydreaming is a hypnotic state. Getting lost in a good book, movie or game... falling asleep and waking up... dreaming... spacing out while driving... all hypnotic states.
(10-05-2016, 09:34 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 08:16 AM)Steven Wrote: [ -> ]"Almost finished calculating the final optimizations for MIR2. I should be able to build it either tonight or tomorrow. But it is going to go through testing before I release it into the wild. "

I'm glad to hear this because I think this was a project you had in mind to help someone you know. More technology. Faster results.

It was intended to help Andrew, yes. It's also for me and everyone else to benefit from. Andrew is already on the mend, from the effects of some discoveries he made regarding his situation, which may or may not have been the effects of the first subliminal I made him, which was designed to guide him to a solution itself. That's what is making the perfumery go forward, and everything else. I hope he benefits from Mir2, though.

Quote:P3 P4 P5 Px with all the other technologies combo soon resistance won't stand a chance and neither will any problems. Rather than feeling off we can feel just right. Maybe 6 stagers will only need to be 2 stagers.

P5 is the and of the line for the P series of technologies. P5 pulls out all the currently known stops and goes above and beyond normal reality in doing what it does.

As for 6 stagers becoming 2 stagers... remember that no matter how powerful your legs are, you probably still cannot successfully take a flight of stairs in 2 steps. It will probably still require 3 to 6 stages, but you'll be able to run the program a lot fewer hours per day and you will probably not have to re-run it so much at all.

Quote:The next generation of EPRHA and DSMI will be even more powerful. When that happens our genius can be more expressed and all can plainly see it, or hear it or sense it, that potential within all of us unlocking that flows even more that starts to happen so we can be bursting with our greatness even more. Getting over grudges. Ending loneliness. Welcoming others into our lives. Feeling the good that others and life have to offer. Maybe high hopes, but that's how I'm feeling.

I have the feeling that we are going to be seeing some really incredible stuff in the next year as I finish 6G dev and finish mining the valuable data from the prototype, and make it useful in 6G. We shall see as to exactly what happens.

Man I would give my left nut to see 6 month programs become 6 week programs. Surely that's possible in the future with 6G? I mean dsmi seems to work remarkably faster than 5G, and it's not even nearly full 6G yet.
Where did Shannon announce the surprise to v2.4 (p3)?

I missed it, and the search function didn't help me!
(10-06-2016, 09:00 AM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 09:34 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-05-2016, 08:16 AM)Steven Wrote: [ -> ]"Almost finished calculating the final optimizations for MIR2. I should be able to build it either tonight or tomorrow. But it is going to go through testing before I release it into the wild. "

I'm glad to hear this because I think this was a project you had in mind to help someone you know. More technology. Faster results.

It was intended to help Andrew, yes. It's also for me and everyone else to benefit from. Andrew is already on the mend, from the effects of some discoveries he made regarding his situation, which may or may not have been the effects of the first subliminal I made him, which was designed to guide him to a solution itself. That's what is making the perfumery go forward, and everything else. I hope he benefits from Mir2, though.

Quote:P3 P4 P5 Px with all the other technologies combo soon resistance won't stand a chance and neither will any problems. Rather than feeling off we can feel just right. Maybe 6 stagers will only need to be 2 stagers.

P5 is the and of the line for the P series of technologies. P5 pulls out all the currently known stops and goes above and beyond normal reality in doing what it does.

As for 6 stagers becoming 2 stagers... remember that no matter how powerful your legs are, you probably still cannot successfully take a flight of stairs in 2 steps. It will probably still require 3 to 6 stages, but you'll be able to run the program a lot fewer hours per day and you will probably not have to re-run it so much at all.

Quote:The next generation of EPRHA and DSMI will be even more powerful. When that happens our genius can be more expressed and all can plainly see it, or hear it or sense it, that potential within all of us unlocking that flows even more that starts to happen so we can be bursting with our greatness even more. Getting over grudges. Ending loneliness. Welcoming others into our lives. Feeling the good that others and life have to offer. Maybe high hopes, but that's how I'm feeling.

I have the feeling that we are going to be seeing some really incredible stuff in the next year as I finish 6G dev and finish mining the valuable data from the prototype, and make it useful in 6G. We shall see as to exactly what happens.

Man I would give my left nut to see 6 month programs become 6 week programs. Surely that's possible in the future with 6G? I mean dsmi seems to work remarkably faster than 5G, and it's not even nearly full 6G yet.

It seems possible, but we have to finish developing 6G, extracting the relevant methods and then modeling and testing it to see. It may be that you get much better results with fewer hours per day, but just as many days per stage, or maybe 6 weeks total will be better.
Shannon Wrote:Almost finished calculating the final optimizations for MIR2. I should be able to build it either tonight or tomorrow. But it is going to go through testing before I release it into the wild.

So I guess public release is not that soon? Just asking because I am starting to feel like getting a cold. However, still have MIR1 here.
MIR2 needs testing first. I don't know if that will be a few days, a week, a month, a few months...

So fire up MIR1.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37571685

Gush, never been through a hurricane myself - GOOD LUCK, Shannon! Fingers crossed in Poland
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