Subliminal Talk

You probably already read it, I can't mention his name though.
Ephra what created just before AM6, so every 6 stager older than AM6 doesn't have it: SM3 and WM2.

(05-20-2016, 11:28 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon if I want success with WM do you think I should just keep running it alone or "build my foundation" using E2/AM first? The only problem I have with that is that I've seen guys with multiple AM runs run a magnet once and then not get much and just go back to foundation building. How long till you would say the growth starts capping out on a 6 stage set? And also around the amount basic level competency (Starts seeing consistent results) and then mastery (its all ogre now) is achieved?

I know its different for everybody (I personally came from a lower position than average) but let's just assume that a slighly below average guy ran AM6 once and then dedicated the rest of his life to running WM until mastery was achieved (I think most guys on this forum probably started as below average because we're more likely to search for more since we are lacking. So this question isn't just for me but other guys as well.).


Edit: also if you keep running a program in a row do the manifestations stack? Like do they go from level 1 - 2 - 3 and keep growing and gaining momentum the more you run a program in succession, or do they restart every time or kinda stay at the level they reached the first time around? If I stop a program and do another then come back to the first one ( so WM AM WM as an example) would the manifestations restart back to zero since it got interrupted, or at least slow down significantly?

Frosted I suggest you figure out what exactly you are lacking with WM... Problems can only be fixed when you are consciously aware of it. Getting women is really down to three components, approach, talk and escalate. Other than that will be logistics (strategies). If you think WM has not brought you enough of them, have you thought about taking consciously actions to fix on it? Say if you lack approach and still have anxiety, the better way could be to get used to approaching instead of waiting for another run through. Might be faster that way.

(05-20-2016, 11:28 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon if I want success with WM do you think I should just keep running it alone or "build my foundation" using E2/AM first? The only problem I have with that is that I've seen guys with multiple AM runs run a magnet once and then not get much and just go back to foundation building. How long till you would say the growth starts capping out on a 6 stage set? And also around the amount basic level competency (Starts seeing consistent results) and then mastery (its all ogre now) is achieved?

I know its different for everybody (I personally came from a lower position than average) but let's just assume that a slighly below average guy ran AM6 once and then dedicated the rest of his life to running WM until mastery was achieved (I think most guys on this forum probably started as below average because we're more likely to search for more since we are lacking. So this question isn't just for me but other guys as well.).


Edit: also if you keep running a program in a row do the manifestations stack? Like do they go from level 1 - 2 - 3 and keep growing and gaining momentum the more you run a program in succession, or do they restart every time or kinda stay at the level they reached the first time around? If I stop a program and do another then come back to the first one ( so WM AM WM as an example) would the manifestations restart back to zero since it got interrupted, or at least slow down significantly?

Oftentimes, he has said, that it tends to take up to 3 runs for most to get the benefit out of programs. He has said it before AM6 to my knowledge, but that seems to be the best rule of thumb we have. Some more, some less, but 3 seems to be the average.

Yeah, it's too difficult to judge, we don't have the "cooking timer" bulletpoint just yet, lol! I don't think any run on AM6 is a waste.

(05-20-2016, 06:22 AM)Alpha360 Wrote: [ -> ]You probably already read it, I can't mention his name though.

Just to clarify for Yeah! or whoever else, he is talking about me.

I didn't use SM3 for sexual healing as I haven't been abused or anything like that. I used it because I did good on AM6 (except for women/sex, which I expected and planned to use SM3 to deal with that anyway)), scored the bulletpoints, decided the foundation was good, and went forward to the next stage of my planned development. The run was extremely disappointing, so extremely, that it even made me consider whether or not either program would truly be able to solve my issues, and here we are...

However, I feel I'm an extreme case. Most will likely find massive benefit in time with them. So don't let one experience from one person cast unreasonable doubt.

(05-20-2016, 03:51 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon if you use a AYP and attract somebody is the attractiveness of the person you attracted a good indication for how attractive you yourself are at that moment? Like if you attract an 8 on an AYP than you're somewhere around an 8?

I'm not Shannon but I would venture to say that the attractiveness of the person you attract is not something that would necessarily match you because it's supposed to be attract your "perfect" whatever whatever.

So you might get a 6 but she just happens to be perfect for you. We are all different and what might be perfect for you could be a girl that matches your physical attractiveness, but for another guy it could be a girl that satisfies him mentally and intellectually and is attractive to him but not necessarily an equal in terms of attractiveness. I don't think there's an specific formula like you seem to be alluding to.

I think you guys are underestimating the AYP/MYP subs. If the girl you attracted into your life is perfect for you, of course she is going to be a 10 in your eyes. The subliminal is not about attracting someone equal to you in every way, it is about attracting someone who is "perfect". We all have somewhat different views on what constitutes a 10, but for the user of that subliminal, perfect would means a 10.

Speaking of manifestion subliminals, Shannon, how is your research on active manifestion tech going? From the poll some months ago the MYPs has the highest demand, so it should be a no-brainer to release it with the newest tech.

Have to agree with the "your perfect" part, as it just makes sense. There are girls that my friends have sworn were "10's" and I'd say they were more in the "7-8" range. And vice versa. I don't really use number ratings but it seems to be a common usage that dudes understand lol. I'm more of an "I love her eyes and smile" kind of guy.

(05-20-2016, 11:28 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon if I want success with WM do you think I should just keep running it alone or "build my foundation" using E2/AM first? The only problem I have with that is that I've seen guys with multiple AM runs run a magnet once and then not get much and just go back to foundation building. How long till you would say the growth starts capping out on a 6 stage set? And also around the amount basic level competency (Starts seeing consistent results) and then mastery (its all ogre now) is achieved?

The magnets are designed for building on the fully realized AM results. They are not the ones you can use right off the bat and be very successful with; which is why the instructions specifically insist that you run AM first.

This is also why some guys go back for foundation building. The magnets are designed to use what AM gives you. it's like trying to race a Mustang with the engine of a motorcycle in it. That motorcycle engine, no matter how powerful, is designed for a motorcycle, not a Mustang. It won't work well, no matter what you try.

Obviously, you need to run AM first, at least once, to get good results with either of the magnets. Otherwise, you are just wasting your time.

Now as to E2, you could run that, and then AM, and then a magnet; or yu could run AM and then E2 and then a magnet. But never try to run a magnet before AM has been done at least once, and never try to run a magnet if you have gone 6 months or more without refreshing your last AM run.

Quote:I know its different for everybody (I personally came from a lower position than average) but let's just assume that a slighly below average guy ran AM6 once and then dedicated the rest of his life to running WM until mastery was achieved (I think most guys on this forum probably started as below average because we're more likely to search for more since we are lacking. So this question isn't just for me but other guys as well.).

The best way forward is to master AM first and then try to master WM or SM. AM is the basis for these magnets, and they are specifically designed to be that way. It's like trying to build a house on stilts at the beach using wood for the stilts instead of concrete. Sure, you might get results from your magnet run doing it that way, but is it going to be all it could have been? You can't make the foundation stronger by working on the roof.

Quote:Edit: also if you keep running a program in a row do the manifestations stack? Like do they go from level 1 - 2 - 3 and keep growing and gaining momentum the more you run a program in succession, or do they restart every time or kinda stay at the level they reached the first time around? If I stop a program and do another then come back to the first one ( so WM AM WM as an example) would the manifestations restart back to zero since it got interrupted, or at least slow down significantly?

The manifestation programming will typically "get up to speed" and then keep pulling for that goal, even after manifesting. When I did my first long term manifestation effort, I actually manifested four different females all at once, which is how I ended up with four different simultaneous girlfriends. Only one was long term, and the rest were what I call "echoes", but it does happen when you keep going long enough.

When you do another program, the energy behind it fades, and what you get from then on is residuals and un-manifested echoes. And then when you start up again, you are going to be getting more effort in that direction. It's like a cruise ship sailing along under power. The Captain cuts the power to the engines and diverts it to something else, and the momentum of the boat carries it along forward for a little while, but it's losing energy fast. Then the power is applied again, and the boat gets up to speed again.

(05-20-2016, 03:51 PM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon if you use a AYP and attract somebody is the attractiveness of the person you attracted a good indication for how attractive you yourself are at that moment? Like if you attract an 8 on an AYP than you're somewhere around an 8?

It depends on the specifics of how your particular subconscious mind interprets the script. Not your conscious mind. Consciously, XYZ may seem to make perfect sense, but ABC is what happens. If you insist that only XYZ can be the "real" manifestation, you end up blocking your success by ignoring ABC. Remember that the subconscious has a different understaning than the conscious mind many times. I plan on making this issue a thing of the past in future manifestation programs.

Now that said, sometimes it will be true; when I manifested my perfect lover, she was a 9 in my eyes, but most guys thought of her as an 8 if I showed them her picture. But in person she had a sexual magnetism that made most guys think 9-10.

Most women had told me that, at the time, they would rate me about an 8 out of 10 physically. So we matched.

I have found that there is a sharp spike in how readily a woman will respond to you when you match her perception of her own level of physical attractiveness exactly. More than about a point up or down in difference, most women don't respond well to.

That said, I have had women manifest who were super hot and some who were not very attractive at all physically, but in all cases, they were perfect for me in whatever specific direction I wanted. So I have come to believe that looks are only as important in a manifestation as you assign them importance, and primarily this must be at the subconscious level.

So if you are really interested in having a perfect romantic or sexual lover who feels amazing during sex, but how she looks isn't really a top priority, you might not end up attracting a woman who is as physically attractive if a woman who matches your priorities better with less good looks is available.

In other words, the end result will depend on what your particular priorities are, because that is what is perfect for you.

But remember that it is your priorities at the subconscious level. Not necessarily the conscious level.

(05-21-2016, 03:51 AM)Lowe Wrote: [ -> ]I think you guys are underestimating the AYP/MYP subs. If the girl you attracted into your life is perfect for you, of course she is going to be a 10 in your eyes. The subliminal is not about attracting someone equal to you in every way, it is about attracting someone who is "perfect". We all have somewhat different views on what constitutes a 10, but for the user of that subliminal, perfect would means a 10.

Speaking of manifestion subliminals, Shannon, how is your research on active manifestion tech going? From the poll some months ago the MYPs has the highest demand, so it should be a no-brainer to release it with the newest tech.

She may or may not be a 10 in your eyes unless that is a high priority.

If I don't much care what she looks like as long as she's loyal, faithful, trustworthy and loves to have sex with me, then maybe I'll get an 8, or a 6, or whatever, because that wasn't the main priority.

Research was stalled while I was working on Andrew's program. It's also been stalled because I am recently getting too much interest and attention from the ladies and it's making me have to be more assertive in defining boundaries on my time. But that's going to be getting tertiary priority in research now, so work continues.

(05-21-2016, 09:33 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ]ETA on 5G perfect romantic lover Shannon?

I am tempted to use perfect sexual lover 5G but I think I would run into problems with it only being sexual and not romantic. I don't know but sometimes I wonder if my subconscious would manifest it in a way that was perfect for me, especially if romantic lover would actually define "perfect" for me.

So if a sexual lover is not perfect for me, a romantic lover is....then would my subconscious morph around that to my liking?

I highy doubt it.

Who would not want a perfect romantic lover anyway?

What does it add compared to just sexual lover?

Love? Romance? Companionship?

If so, does that mean a manifested sexual lover will not include all these? She will just be a blow up doll?

I don't know what the ETA is yet. Not done disentangling the research on active manifestation. So far it's been rather confusing.

Your subconscious would manifest whatever was defined in the script. If your most perfect result would be based on romance, but you specify sexual, you won't get your most perfect possible result, but you will get the most perfect possible result within the limits you specify.

As to who would not want a perfect romantic lover, remember that everyone is unique. Just because you believe X or want X, does not mean that is the right thing for everyone else.

(05-21-2016, 11:12 AM)ALI6NMENT Wrote: [ -> ]I am very curious Shannon, what's your thoughts on sustaining from orgasm long term?

I hear many benefits such as confidence, energy, attraction, success ETC...

Not sure if you have looked into it but I was wondering how this fits in with the law of attraction.

You would think by releasing the orgasm, it would give off a vibe of pre-selection (if anything) not the opposite.

I don't know what to believe of it all really, I am trying to make sense of it all from different angles.

I am testing it myself (That's the only way to know for sure) I have been sustaining only for 12 days so far. I have more energy but it seems to only make me yearn for a girlfriend more and notice my flaws in not being able to approach women I find attractive, which leads me to feeling frustrated.

You're talking about tantric sexual practices. I'm not well versed in that specific direction yet. I do know that sexual energy is a very, very powerful energy source for manifestation and causality manipulation, but it is also challenging to control. Beyond that, I can't really comment. My areas of specialty lie in other directions.

@Shannon

I wanted to know during Stage 7 on AM6, how much time does it take for the entire script to be expressed once?

(05-21-2016, 03:26 PM)dweller94 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

I wanted to know during Stage 7 on AM6, how much time does it take for the entire script to be expressed once?

That is not public information. It is significantly less time than the length of the audio, but long enough that I was forced to make it the length I used instead of something shorter. That's as specific as I can get with that.