Its mandatory for the healing to be part of the sub no questions asked. Picture this a guy believes he is entitled to sex with hot women. However his self esteem doubts that from the start. So what does the aura do bring into his life the nearest thing to sex. Porn, masturbation, prostitution. So yes the aura worked but it attracted the wrong kind of sex into his world. The aura is a projection of your beliefs its as simple as that. You will attract whatever you believe deep down.
(09-03-2016, 03:22 AM)Kurohawk Wrote: [ -> ]My first thoughts on DMSI was its just a super aura with some auto pilot to help campitalize , the aura is good enough that it matters not what you look like, if you need healing and so on.
But now seeing how healing absolutly need that means its not the aura that makes goal 1 possible.
DMSI is turning more and more into a single stage sex magnet with healing required to work properly.
What about the aura? Could'nt the aura be strong enough to generate goal 1 on its own? Do we really need auto pilot and healing.
It's one thing to achive goal 1 and get women asking you for sex and its another if you are alpha enough to capitalize!
No one discusses aura anymore which tells me that its as good as it gets, all women could do is give iois and stuff like them approaching you is just a fairy tail.
Personally i did ASC, AM6 and i approach and do all the work, if i see an oppertunity id take it. I dont need healing in order to take her offer. But then again she wont go as far as to make the offer now can she? All she could do is give iois and i need to do the rest! The aura is as good as it get! And thats why i need healing in order to make it happen.
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thor2014 Thats a very complicated way to think about it! People who have sex get more sex it matters not how they feel or believe, a degenerate who is always on something slowly ruining his health and life could be getting better sex life than all of us, or an alpha who is on his path in life. Both could be getting as much sex and it has nothing to do with what thier belief.
Im simpily saying what i think from what i've seen and what i've learned. The aura should be good enough on its own, if this is the best the aura could do and the rest is still up to us then honestly its better to do E2 or AM6 or any other healing program.
I just want to know, is this the best the aura could get regardless of wether we need healing or not?
My question is: Exactly what is the missing link that is needed to achieve goal 1, is it because the user needs healing, or is it because we still searching for the correct aura!
I don't think we have anything to worry about as far as whether dmsi will live up to its sales page.
Shannon's at least halfway there as it stands, before 2.4 is released. And he seems like the type of guy who will find a way or make a way to deliver what he promised as he has shown many times with dmsi alone.
I also do think dmsi has become a mini sex magnet project. I sensed that from the beginning but wanted to see how far dmsi would go, because getting an aura to perform to its goal specifications means 7 maximum strength auras in sm4. Not to mention all the technology being invented on the way to the goal, that will be incorporated into sm4 and all the other programs too.
And I don't know if I vibe with the notion that "overcoming fear" will cause the subconscious to focus on fear. From what I know about the subC, which isn't much, the subC is very literal. In that if you instruct it to remove fears, it takes that instruction literally. It won't go around looking for fear if it isn't there. I imagine the subC will just ignore the instruction if it doesn't apply. I have a guess that's why AM6 doesn't work on women or gays. Their minds are hearing "become an alpha male" but they don't fit the criteria of being a heterosexual male above the age of 18, and so their subC ignores the programming. Obviously I'm not the creator lol so I don't know for sure. But that's just my take on it.
Honestly, after recent experiences, I'm going to STFU, trust Shannon and let him to his thing. We should trust that a man who makes .mp3 files capable of altering physical reality (really think about that) will know what he's taking about.
(09-03-2016, 05:27 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly, after recent experiences, I'm going to STFU, trust Shannon and let him to his thing. We should trust that a man who makes .mp3 files capable of altering physical reality (really think about that) will know what he's taking about.
I really trust Shannon. But what experiences you talking about?what convinced you?
So will v2.4 deal with the ghosting issue?
(09-03-2016, 05:39 AM)bogdy Wrote: [ -> ] (09-03-2016, 05:27 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly, after recent experiences, I'm going to STFU, trust Shannon and let him to his thing. We should trust that a man who makes .mp3 files capable of altering physical reality (really think about that) will know what he's taking about.
I really trust Shannon. But what experiences you talking about?what convinced you?
I ran DMSI to get laid. I could get laid before DMSI, relatively easy compared to some people, given the fact that I'm pretty brash and bold. For the past few years, that's all I've done. Bang and bolt. I used to pride myself on the fact that I only ever slept with women I knew I'd never have to see again.
Enter #3 (see my journal), who I'm actually crushing on. What happens? Even with v2.3 flowing through my synapses, it's like I'm incapable of being that bold person. Dawned on me that I have NO IDEA how to handle true intimacy -- anything beyond that bang and bolt. I definitely have intimacy issues that need to be dealt with -- issues that's keeping me from becoming a truly self-actualized male.
Last night's date with #3 went really well. Didn't get to bang because of logistics (we were about an hour from both our houses), but we stayed out until like 3am partying together, making out, cuddling. Wants to see me again when I get back from traveling all next week. Said she really likes me and she really wants me.
That being said...
Wtf do I feel so miserable today? Like, I'm going through SERIOUS resistance -- the depressive kind with suicidal ideation. I'm so torn right now. I hate the way this chick makes me feel. It's taking everything in me not to instinctually sabotage this budding relationship. I'm sitting here, literally hoping that she just loses interest so I can shrug and just go on as if I never met her.
Doesn't sound healthy. v2.4, with the healing, can't come fast enough.
(09-03-2016, 06:42 AM)Kurohawk Wrote: [ -> ]So will v2.4 deal with the ghosting issue?
Yes, that's why healing was put back into 2.4 to stop the ghosting issue
Ghosting issue... SOLVED!!
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7737-p...#pid129966
(09-03-2016, 06:14 AM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ]02/09/2016
Second day on using v2.2 while sleeping and v2.3 during the day. The odd effects that I was experiencing with 2.3 seem to be gone. Internally, I feel more confident and there does not seem to be a disconnect between how I feel and the external world. At work, all the women I've interacted with were really chatty. What I've noticed in particular is the extent that some of them will go through to draw interest.
towards the end of the day, I was walking in the hallway at work and in the distance I see R. a late 30's petite brunette. as soon as she see's me, her walking gait changing from a normal one to one where her hips are swaying from side to side. As we get closer, I say "Hi R."., She responds. "Hi Snoop". The icing on the cake was that she started to act shy and coy, looked down and smiled. As we parted ways. I said "have a lovely weekend". She responded "You too". As she said it, the tone of her voice was wavering and I could tell she was really nervous.
The second in command in my department is in her mid 40's. She's attractive, but relatively flat chested. When she leaves at night, she generally shouts "good night" while walking away. But tonight, she dropped by and chatted for about 5 minutes, which is highly unusual. Body language wise, I can see that while she's talking to me smiling. Her head tilted sideways, she's standing so I get a side view of her body profile. That's when I noticed that throughout the conversation, she's periodically pulling her shoulders backwards, trying to accentuate the size of her breasts.
Well, instead of a 2 stager, I would recommend building a healing sub focussed on sex, intimacy and so on.
That healing sub can be used before a magnet, after AM, whatever. But this way there is no need to build healing in all of those. You can choose to be healed.
(09-03-2016, 09:10 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]Well, instead of a 2 stager, I would recommend building a healing sub focussed on sex, intimacy and so on.
That healing sub can be used before a magnet, after AM, whatever. But this way there is no need to build healing in all of those. You can choose to be healed.
I brought up the idea of this long ago, as I said most guys in reality are only using EHPRA, OF, OGSF, and now EHPRA 2, FOR issues with women/sex. So, I said targeting that and solely honing in on that with a healing program will allow huge impact, and not spinning your wheels on every piece of programming in your mind that has nothing to do with women/sex, thus wasting huge amounts of time on stuff you aren't interested in for your goals.
He said that he didn't want to do it, because things are related and interconnected in ways we don't understand and stuff, so didn't have any interest in doing it. It's a shame, I think it'd be a real winner and spike up success rates of programs. And would also allow more intense programming of future versions of programs, space that is used now for healing stuff in them.
Maybe in time it will become a reality, or unneeded with 6G. Who knows, we'll have to test and see as things progress.
(09-03-2016, 09:14 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-03-2016, 09:10 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]Well, instead of a 2 stager, I would recommend building a healing sub focussed on sex, intimacy and so on.
That healing sub can be used before a magnet, after AM, whatever. But this way there is no need to build healing in all of those. You can choose to be healed.
I brought up the idea of this long ago, as I said most guys in reality are only using EHPRA, OF, OGSF, and now EHPRA 2, FOR issues with women/sex. So, I said targeting that and solely honing in on that with a healing program will allow huge impact, and not spinning your wheels on every piece of programming in your mind that has nothing to do with women/sex, thus wasting huge amounts of time on stuff you aren't interested in for your goals.
He said that he didn't want to do it, because things are related and interconnected in ways we don't understand and stuff, so didn't have any interest in doing it. It's a shame, I think it'd be a real winner and spike up success rates of programs. And would also allow more intense programming of future versions of programs, space that is used now for healing stuff in them.
Maybe in time it will become a reality, or unneeded with 6G. Who knows, we'll have to test and see as things progress.
So true.
Everything.
Well, a thinking man can change his opinion.
Hey Shannon, several guys reported (Swisston & Thor come to mind IIRC), that with DMSI 2.2 their wanting to watch porn and masturbate greatly diminished or was killed alltogether, was there something specifically for this in the sub?
If not, what do you think caused this effect?, is it going to be in v2.4 ??
(09-03-2016, 12:30 PM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, several guys reported (Swisston & Thor come to mind IIRC), that with DMSI 2.2 their wanting to watch porn and masturbate greatly diminished or was killed alltogether, was there something specifically for this in the sub?
If not, what do you think caused this effect?, is it going to be in v2.4 ??
That is a side effect of a combination of the healing modules and OE working to achieve the goals of the program. It wasn't specifically aimed for, but it was identified (by the individual subconscious) as useful for achieving the goal.
This effect should also be present in 2.4, for those who conclude that it is useful for themselves at a subconscious level.
Gentlemen, I don't think you're understanding how the healing works. Once you have cleared the issues, there is nothing to do, so the instruction "short circuits" (error: Nothing to do; doing nothing) and is basically ignored.
It's like if I made a sub that specified that the vaginal canal should relax and played it to a group of men and women. The women would experience an effect, because they have a vagina. The men? Not so much.
The issues are that you guys are not patient enough with the healing that needs to be done.
However, Catman, 2.4 will have targeted healing modules, which are designed specifically to achieve the goal of the program. In other words, they're not aimed at "healing", they're aimed at healing what needs to be healed to achieve the results DMSI is going for. This should make a big difference. I didn't ignore the suggestions you made, but at the time, they did not fit what I needed.
And Chaos, I believe that this may mean that for your needs and purposes, 2.2 will be better for you concerning "#3". DMSI is aiming at resulting in sex, not intimacy. In fact, E2 may be even better. I believe you should simply tell her that you are realizing that in the past you've done things differently because of a fear of genuine intimacy, and she is bringing up that fear because she is someone you feel for genuinely, and please bear with me while I try to sort this out, because you are someone I really like and I think we could have something really good if I can let go of this trauma from my past experiences.