(10-29-2016, 06:47 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly, I've wanted to go back to AM so badly for so long. But, with it having E1 in there, I want to focus on DMSI's insane power for now, too. I realised after AM6 that there is still a ton of garbage deep in my mind and I'd prefer to use the best tech possible to reach down and grab it. That's exactly my thought process. I'm worried I won't get nearly the results on AM6 that I would on DMSI, especially with V3 around the corner, and I'd be locked in for 192 days, who knows the epic version that would be out in such a length of time! So, I'm choosing to wait until AM7 also. However, I will say that when it comes, I think I may do back to back runs of it. We'll see what my issues and priorities are at that point in time.
This is why I switched back to DMSI last night...
After stopping DMSI and switching to BASE, I began to notice how much junk was cleared out in only 32 days of v2.4. I mean, it's CRAZY. My eye contact game is insane -- it's intense and 90% of women I'm encountering are either holding the eye contact and blushing, or looking down and smirking.
I'm back on v2.5 for now because I couldn't decide which to switch to, so I just chose one.
(10-29-2016, 03:48 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2016, 06:47 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Honestly, I've wanted to go back to AM so badly for so long. But, with it having E1 in there, I want to focus on DMSI's insane power for now, too. I realised after AM6 that there is still a ton of garbage deep in my mind and I'd prefer to use the best tech possible to reach down and grab it. That's exactly my thought process. I'm worried I won't get nearly the results on AM6 that I would on DMSI, especially with V3 around the corner, and I'd be locked in for 192 days, who knows the epic version that would be out in such a length of time! So, I'm choosing to wait until AM7 also. However, I will say that when it comes, I think I may do back to back runs of it. We'll see what my issues and priorities are at that point in time.
This is why I switched back to DMSI last night...
After stopping DMSI and switching to BASE, I began to notice how much junk was cleared out in only 32 days of v2.4. I mean, it's CRAZY. My eye contact game is insane -- it's intense and 90% of women I'm encountering are either holding the eye contact and blushing, or looking down and smirking.
I'm back on v2.5 for now because I couldn't decide which to switch to, so I just chose one.
Welcome back to the sexy side 
I agree. 2.4 seems to be clearing things at a much more rapid pace than E2 did. Tbh, with DMSI being a true 5.5G compared to E2 being an early 5.5G, I'm now officially excited for how effective, crazy, powerful, and life changing 6G will be!
Quote:Also, the DMSI morphine drip from v2.4
What do you mean by the morphine drip effect? I've seen you mention it a few times.
Quote:I think taking this time off has been good for you, because now you see the difference between 5G and 5.5G. You see what P3 does, and P4. You see what energy flooding does. You guys are discovering what the modules for body chemistry/activity are doing. It may not be obvious right away because of the mega powerful naturalizer, but it's a big step up from 5G and even earlier 5.5G programs.
But I can't decide what's right for you, man. You do what you think that is.
This is related to E2 not DMSI but it's only taking this week off everything and disrupting E2 by using DMSI for 2 days I realize what E2 was actually doing.
I think this week off was good so i'm glad I made myself do it. But when I was under the influence of E2 it was much harder to see what was going on which is interesting.
Quote:I also noticed testosterone increase. When I used to do a lot of heavy lifting I would get some acne on my face which I guess was due to testo increase . And I'm getting exactly that recently without doing more workout than usual. I also noticed my body seems abnormally getting more muscular without me doing much. So I guess all that is due to DMSI effect.
ooh I like it. I'm still keen for a bodybuilding subliminal at some stage but this side effect of DMSI would be fucking awesome.
Quote:I agree. 2.4 seems to be clearing things at a much more rapid pace than E2 did. Tbh, with DMSI being a true 5.5G compared to E2 being an early 5.5G, I'm now officially excited for how effective, crazy, powerful, and life changing 6G will be!
Interesting, does DMSI not have the 'heal at your own pace' function?
(10-29-2016, 05:15 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Also, the DMSI morphine drip from v2.4
What do you mean by the morphine drip effect? I've seen you mention it a few times.
For the first few weeks of v2.4, any time I was experiencing resistance, instead of depression or a tension headache, I would experience an extreme, long lasting sense of euphoria. I called it the "morphine drip" because I would literally feel the resistance hit, followed by a "pulse" in my temples and BOOM -- crazy euphoria that would cover up the resistance symptoms.
I haven't experienced it as much on v2.5. Not sure why. In fact, I stopped feeling it after about two weeks of v2.4. Sucks, because I REALLY enjoyed avoiding those "dark night of the soul" resistance days.
EDIT: Oh, and about the "heal at your own pace" thing. I think Shannon took that out in v2.4, opting to make the clearing modules hyper-aggressive. He mentioned that it may be a bit TOO aggressive, hence why some of us was going absolutely insane near the end of our v2.4 usage (myself included, and probably the reason why I switched to BASE).
(10-29-2016, 05:41 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]EDIT: Oh, and about the "heal at your own pace" thing. I think Shannon took that out in v2.4, opting to make the clearing modules hyper-aggressive. He mentioned that it may be a bit TOO aggressive, hence why some of us was going absolutely insane near the end of our v2.4 usage (myself included, and probably the reason why I switched to BASE).
if this is true about super aggressive healing, this is a compelling reason for me to resume 2.4. The crazy depression would be worth going through, as 2.4 bulldozed through any and all self cock blocking!
Shannon, I fear that I still have nice guy tendencies that AM6 can't touch (I am resisting very cleverly by avoiding the goals and trying to convince the script I'm doing what it says when I'm not, or making "compromises" by doing something else that's kind of like it). If I run E2 (or something else you can think of) do you think this will help untangle some stuff that will let AM6 do its magic better? At least till I can get my hands on AM7.
Btw is running a month of E2 ACTUALLY 6 months of E1? Like I can just run a month of E2 and it would be like running E1 for 6 months between AM6 runs?
And after 2/3 AM6 runs do you think it is inefficient to keep running AM6 and that we should come back to it later or leave it completely to run other things till AM7 comes out?
Quote:For the first few weeks of v2.4, any time I was experiencing resistance, instead of depression or a tension headache, I would experience an extreme, long lasting sense of euphoria. I called it the "morphine drip" because I would literally feel the resistance hit, followed by a "pulse" in my temples and BOOM -- crazy euphoria that would cover up the resistance symptoms.
I haven't experienced it as much on v2.5. Not sure why. In fact, I stopped feeling it after about two weeks of v2.4. Sucks, because I REALLY enjoyed avoiding those "dark night of the soul" resistance days.
EDIT: Oh, and about the "heal at your own pace" thing. I think Shannon took that out in v2.4, opting to make the clearing modules hyper-aggressive. He mentioned that it may be a bit TOO aggressive, hence why some of us was going absolutely insane near the end of our v2.4 usage (myself included, and probably the reason why I switched to BASE).
Cool, sounds pretty awesome. Man E2 got intense enough and made me try to run off temporarily.. so DMSI may be intense for me.
(10-29-2016, 02:29 PM)Multiworld Wrote: [ -> ]Also are there any plans to upgrade Max Learning Speed to 5.5
Thanks
I'm actually really curious to see what subs get upgraded to 5.5 and which get the full overhaul to 6G. Shannon already said that not all subs will fit with 6G tech, so it will be very interesting to see which subs get the upgrade to which level.
(10-29-2016, 05:41 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2016, 05:15 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Also, the DMSI morphine drip from v2.4
What do you mean by the morphine drip effect? I've seen you mention it a few times.
For the first few weeks of v2.4, any time I was experiencing resistance, instead of depression or a tension headache, I would experience an extreme, long lasting sense of euphoria. I called it the "morphine drip" because I would literally feel the resistance hit, followed by a "pulse" in my temples and BOOM -- crazy euphoria that would cover up the resistance symptoms.
I haven't experienced it as much on v2.5. Not sure why. In fact, I stopped feeling it after about two weeks of v2.4. Sucks, because I REALLY enjoyed avoiding those "dark night of the soul" resistance days.
EDIT: Oh, and about the "heal at your own pace" thing. I think Shannon took that out in v2.4, opting to make the clearing modules hyper-aggressive. He mentioned that it may be a bit TOO aggressive, hence why some of us was going absolutely insane near the end of our v2.4 usage (myself included, and probably the reason why I switched to BASE).
2.4 simply gives the instruction to clear
now. Healing at your own pace is not implemented. That "morphine drip" is not a response to resistance, but a response to compliance and execution; the depression and headache are what you were experiencing in response to resistance.
(10-29-2016, 11:39 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2016, 05:41 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2016, 05:15 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Also, the DMSI morphine drip from v2.4
What do you mean by the morphine drip effect? I've seen you mention it a few times.
For the first few weeks of v2.4, any time I was experiencing resistance, instead of depression or a tension headache, I would experience an extreme, long lasting sense of euphoria. I called it the "morphine drip" because I would literally feel the resistance hit, followed by a "pulse" in my temples and BOOM -- crazy euphoria that would cover up the resistance symptoms.
I haven't experienced it as much on v2.5. Not sure why. In fact, I stopped feeling it after about two weeks of v2.4. Sucks, because I REALLY enjoyed avoiding those "dark night of the soul" resistance days.
EDIT: Oh, and about the "heal at your own pace" thing. I think Shannon took that out in v2.4, opting to make the clearing modules hyper-aggressive. He mentioned that it may be a bit TOO aggressive, hence why some of us was going absolutely insane near the end of our v2.4 usage (myself included, and probably the reason why I switched to BASE).
2.4 simply gives the instruction to clear now. Healing at your own pace is not implemented. That "morphine drip" is not a response to resistance, but a response to compliance and execution; the depression and headache are what you were experiencing in response to resistance.
Interesting. Is that something you put specifically in the script to mitigate resistance by rewarding the execution of the script?
(10-29-2016, 09:42 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, I fear that I still have nice guy tendencies that AM6 can't touch (I am resisting very cleverly by avoiding the goals and trying to convince the script I'm doing what it says when I'm not, or making "compromises" by doing something else that's kind of like it). If I run E2 (or something else you can think of) do you think this will help untangle some stuff that will let AM6 do its magic better? At least till I can get my hands on AM7.
Btw is running a month of E2 ACTUALLY 6 months of E1? Like I can just run a month of E2 and it would be like running E1 for 6 months between AM6 runs?
And after 2/3 AM6 runs do you think it is inefficient to keep running AM6 and that we should come back to it later or leave it completely to run other things till AM7 comes out?
I suspect this is a subtle way for you to "ask my permission" to stop using AM6 and do something else. Keep going. When you finish AM6, then you can make decisions like that, not while it is in use.
If you want to get more aggressive (after running the six stages), you can use the 7th stage. It is significantly more aggressive because it's running the whole six stage program at once.
In the meantime, understanding your resistance is a step to overcoming it.
I don't have a comparison of E1 vs E2, and the effective impact differs from person to person. So it may be the equivalent of 6 months of E1 for one person, and 3 months for someone else, and 12 months for a third person, etc.
I think that none of you guys implement AM the way I suggested, which was 6 months on, 6 months off. I used it that way because it allowed me to grow, process, implement; grow, process, implement. Not as quick as what some of you guys are/are trying to achieve, but perhaps more effective.
In either case, after 2 runs, you need time off to grow, process, implement.
(10-29-2016, 10:16 PM)heavysm Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2016, 02:29 PM)Multiworld Wrote: [ -> ]Also are there any plans to upgrade Max Learning Speed to 5.5
Thanks
I'm actually really curious to see what subs get upgraded to 5.5 and which get the full overhaul to 6G. Shannon already said that not all subs will fit with 6G tech, so it will be very interesting to see which subs get the upgrade to which level.
There are plans to upgrade MLS. I will probably upgrade it to 5.5G, but beyond that I don't know yet.
(10-29-2016, 11:46 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (10-29-2016, 09:42 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, I fear that I still have nice guy tendencies that AM6 can't touch (I am resisting very cleverly by avoiding the goals and trying to convince the script I'm doing what it says when I'm not, or making "compromises" by doing something else that's kind of like it). If I run E2 (or something else you can think of) do you think this will help untangle some stuff that will let AM6 do its magic better? At least till I can get my hands on AM7.
Btw is running a month of E2 ACTUALLY 6 months of E1? Like I can just run a month of E2 and it would be like running E1 for 6 months between AM6 runs?
And after 2/3 AM6 runs do you think it is inefficient to keep running AM6 and that we should come back to it later or leave it completely to run other things till AM7 comes out?
I suspect this is a subtle way for you to "ask my permission" to stop using AM6 and do something else. Keep going. When you finish AM6, then you can make decisions like that, not while it is in use.
If you want to get more aggressive (after running the six stages), you can use the 7th stage. It is significantly more aggressive because it's running the whole six stage program at once.
In the meantime, understanding your resistance is a step to overcoming it.
I don't have a comparison of E1 vs E2, and the effective impact differs from person to person. So it may be the equivalent of 6 months of E1 for one person, and 3 months for someone else, and 12 months for a third person, etc.
I think that none of you guys implement AM the way I suggested, which was 6 months on, 6 months off. I used it that way because it allowed me to grow, process, implement; grow, process, implement. Not as quick as what some of you guys are/are trying to achieve, but perhaps more effective.
In either case, after 2 runs, you need time off to grow, process, implement.
No, I'm definitely going to finish. I'm thinking about what subliminals I'm gonna run after AM6. Its just that the growth seems to peter out after 2 - 3 runs, at least from reading guy's journals. I guess this may be inaccurate since it's based off of limited information but I just get that intuition.