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You can tell after using subs from 3G- 5G that technology has been growing into state shifting and however powerful 6G will be
(12-03-2015, 12:15 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 10:38 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]Hm. I thought we were in Shannon's Journal Discussion. Now it looks like the "everyone ask their questions in this thread, so nobody else will ever find the answer again" thread.

Back to topic:
Shannon, since you will put state shifting into OF, do you think other programs could benefit from it to? Like creative programs "writers subliminal" or "famous musician" to get into a creative state? I mean, it might open a lot of doors, I cannot think of many other purposes, but these guys here are frickin creative and helpful, so you don't have to come up with all the ideas, you just have to get them focused upon the goal.
Also, does OF just get rid of fear or every time replace it with something positive?

I believe that state shifting is almost universally useful. I'm not necessarily sure how extensively I am going to be using it in 5G, but it will be a standard in 6G format.

OF is designed to cause you to outgrow the root cause of fear, and become knowledgeable and aware of the thing you feared such that fear is no longer possible. Fear naturally evaporates as we become more and more familiar with, aware of and educated on a thing. It is also designed to replace fear with positives.

I agree even with OF 4G I see the result. My main fear comes down too not being able to defend myself. That's my primary fear I started to do research on fighting I may even have to DO MLS 5G for several months to raise my self defense levels up. Courage it takes.
(12-03-2015, 12:15 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 10:38 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]Hm. I thought we were in Shannon's Journal Discussion. Now it looks like the "everyone ask their questions in this thread, so nobody else will ever find the answer again" thread.

Back to topic:
Shannon, since you will put state shifting into OF, do you think other programs could benefit from it to? Like creative programs "writers subliminal" or "famous musician" to get into a creative state? I mean, it might open a lot of doors, I cannot think of many other purposes, but these guys here are frickin creative and helpful, so you don't have to come up with all the ideas, you just have to get them focused upon the goal.
Also, does OF just get rid of fear or every time replace it with something positive?

I believe that state shifting is almost universally useful. I'm not necessarily sure how extensively I am going to be using it in 5G, but it will be a standard in 6G format.

OF is designed to cause you to outgrow the root cause of fear, and become knowledgeable and aware of the thing you feared such that fear is no longer possible. Fear naturally evaporates as we become more and more familiar with, aware of and educated on a thing. It is also designed to replace fear with positives.
Is OF 5G going to have any aggressive and straight-forward fear destruction? If not, what do you think about having both types of methods in it? Geodude had some great results from the aggressive types in 4G. Would combining the two methods (the new 5G method you describe, and the 4G aggression), be even more powerful? Plus, the aggressive type, which normally had caused lots of turbulence, resistance and whatnot in 4G, would be a lot less turbulent with Naturalizer and OE, right?
(12-03-2015, 04:56 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 12:15 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 10:38 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]Hm. I thought we were in Shannon's Journal Discussion. Now it looks like the "everyone ask their questions in this thread, so nobody else will ever find the answer again" thread.

Back to topic:
Shannon, since you will put state shifting into OF, do you think other programs could benefit from it to? Like creative programs "writers subliminal" or "famous musician" to get into a creative state? I mean, it might open a lot of doors, I cannot think of many other purposes, but these guys here are frickin creative and helpful, so you don't have to come up with all the ideas, you just have to get them focused upon the goal.
Also, does OF just get rid of fear or every time replace it with something positive?

I believe that state shifting is almost universally useful. I'm not necessarily sure how extensively I am going to be using it in 5G, but it will be a standard in 6G format.

OF is designed to cause you to outgrow the root cause of fear, and become knowledgeable and aware of the thing you feared such that fear is no longer possible. Fear naturally evaporates as we become more and more familiar with, aware of and educated on a thing. It is also designed to replace fear with positives.
Is OF 5G going to have any aggressive and straight-forward fear destruction? If not, what do you think about having both types of methods in it? Geodude had some great results from the aggressive types in 4G. Would combining the two methods (the new 5G method you describe, and the 4G aggression), be even more powerful? Plus, the aggressive type, which normally had caused lots of turbulence, resistance and whatnot in 4G, would be a lot less turbulent with Naturalizer and OE, right?

^ upvote
(12-03-2015, 04:56 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 12:15 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 10:38 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]Hm. I thought we were in Shannon's Journal Discussion. Now it looks like the "everyone ask their questions in this thread, so nobody else will ever find the answer again" thread.

Back to topic:
Shannon, since you will put state shifting into OF, do you think other programs could benefit from it to? Like creative programs "writers subliminal" or "famous musician" to get into a creative state? I mean, it might open a lot of doors, I cannot think of many other purposes, but these guys here are frickin creative and helpful, so you don't have to come up with all the ideas, you just have to get them focused upon the goal.
Also, does OF just get rid of fear or every time replace it with something positive?

I believe that state shifting is almost universally useful. I'm not necessarily sure how extensively I am going to be using it in 5G, but it will be a standard in 6G format.

OF is designed to cause you to outgrow the root cause of fear, and become knowledgeable and aware of the thing you feared such that fear is no longer possible. Fear naturally evaporates as we become more and more familiar with, aware of and educated on a thing. It is also designed to replace fear with positives.
Is OF 5G going to have any aggressive and straight-forward fear destruction? If not, what do you think about having both types of methods in it? Geodude had some great results from the aggressive types in 4G. Would combining the two methods (the new 5G method you describe, and the 4G aggression), be even more powerful? Plus, the aggressive type, which normally had caused lots of turbulence, resistance and whatnot in 4G, would be a lot less turbulent with Naturalizer and OE, right?

If I thought the aggressive approach was better, or as good, it would be in there. What I have found, however, is that for some personality types and some levels and types of fear, direct and aggressive is too much to handle, and produces a reverse result or causes the person to have too much fear to use the program.

Direct is certainly in there. But aggressive is not all it's cracked up to be overall, and so I'll be taking a better path this time.

The naturalizer can only do so much in 5G format. Consider that we still have guys who can't finish AM6 because it's too much for them, even with a very advanced naturalizer. Fear is a tough cookie. We must approach it in the best way possible, and while I will be using the naturalizer, I will also be using the "yin" approach. Water, after all, takes down even the mightiest of mountains. Fortunately, this program won't require that long to do so.

Remember that a gentler approach does not mean a less powerful one. That's very typical "guy thinking". In many cases, softer, gentler, more subtle and so forth is better. Just see how much a woman likes it if you get aggressive with her girl parts, and you'll see what I mean. But most women love Love LOVE having their girl parts touched with almost imperceptible gentleness. I have had a number of girlfriends, for example, who were a dead fish in response to aggressive oral sex, but when I tried being super subtle, super gentle, etc. they came alive and went crazy.

Just like sometimes, a very low volume is better for subs, depending on the format, subject and goal.

More aggressive is not always better. In this case, I think you'll see what I mean very clearly. Overcoming fear should not be a fear-filled journey.
(12-03-2015, 12:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 08:18 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]Here is a question. An iPhone has only one speaker which means it's mono. But I noticed the iPhone mixes both channels of a stereo file into that one speaker. I also tested it with a self created short stereo file. I could definitely hear both channels. So would it be sufficient to use an iPhone in this case?

Mixing a left and right channel into a single channel is mono. One channel results. Left and right no longer exist. When both channels have very similar data it would be sufficient. But in this case, I use each channel as an exclusive transport for information, such that when the brain is presented with both channels, it is forced to use both hemispheres to make sense of the information. That results in a much more powerful subliminal, at the expense of having to use two channels. As a safety and backup, the information is eventually repeated in both channels such that even with a mono speaker it will work, but that is why it only gives about 45% of the full possible effect when you use mono instead of stereo.

Ah, ok, I just thought the main problem was the complete absence of one of the channels or the information it contents.
(12-03-2015, 11:42 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 04:56 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 12:15 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 10:38 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]Hm. I thought we were in Shannon's Journal Discussion. Now it looks like the "everyone ask their questions in this thread, so nobody else will ever find the answer again" thread.

Back to topic:
Shannon, since you will put state shifting into OF, do you think other programs could benefit from it to? Like creative programs "writers subliminal" or "famous musician" to get into a creative state? I mean, it might open a lot of doors, I cannot think of many other purposes, but these guys here are frickin creative and helpful, so you don't have to come up with all the ideas, you just have to get them focused upon the goal.
Also, does OF just get rid of fear or every time replace it with something positive?

I believe that state shifting is almost universally useful. I'm not necessarily sure how extensively I am going to be using it in 5G, but it will be a standard in 6G format.

OF is designed to cause you to outgrow the root cause of fear, and become knowledgeable and aware of the thing you feared such that fear is no longer possible. Fear naturally evaporates as we become more and more familiar with, aware of and educated on a thing. It is also designed to replace fear with positives.
Is OF 5G going to have any aggressive and straight-forward fear destruction? If not, what do you think about having both types of methods in it? Geodude had some great results from the aggressive types in 4G. Would combining the two methods (the new 5G method you describe, and the 4G aggression), be even more powerful? Plus, the aggressive type, which normally had caused lots of turbulence, resistance and whatnot in 4G, would be a lot less turbulent with Naturalizer and OE, right?

If I thought the aggressive approach was better, or as good, it would be in there. What I have found, however, is that for some personality types and some levels and types of fear, direct and aggressive is too much to handle, and produces a reverse result or causes the person to have too much fear to use the program.

Direct is certainly in there. But aggressive is not all it's cracked up to be overall, and so I'll be taking a better path this time.

The naturalizer can only do so much in 5G format. Consider that we still have guys who can't finish AM6 because it's too much for them, even with a very advanced naturalizer. Fear is a tough cookie. We must approach it in the best way possible, and while I will be using the naturalizer, I will also be using the "yin" approach. Water, after all, takes down even the mightiest of mountains. Fortunately, this program won't require that long to do so.

Remember that a gentler approach does not mean a less powerful one. That's very typical "guy thinking". In many cases, softer, gentler, more subtle and so forth is better. Just see how much a woman likes it if you get aggressive with her girl parts, and you'll see what I mean. But most women love Love LOVE having their girl parts touched with almost imperceptible gentleness. I have had a number of girlfriends, for example, who were a dead fish in response to aggressive oral sex, but when I tried being super subtle, super gentle, etc. they came alive and went crazy.

Just like sometimes, a very low volume is better for subs, depending on the format, subject and goal.

More aggressive is not always better. In this case, I think you'll see what I mean very clearly. Overcoming fear should not be a fear-filled journey.

Much thanks for your input. Really looking forward to the release of OF 5G... I cannot wait! Literally and figuratively lol.Shy
(12-04-2015, 11:30 AM)yeah! Wrote: [ -> ]hehe 45% of 4 or 5G is still better than the average sub.........does it still count as time or should it be halved, ie you need 17 hours (to allow for the 5%) a day instead of 8 with mono speaker?

Hehe, you are right, it's still more effective than all the other subs - at least as far I can tell.
(12-03-2015, 12:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Mixing a left and right channel into a single channel is mono. One channel results. Left and right no longer exist. When both channels have very similar data it would be sufficient. But in this case, I use each channel as an exclusive transport for information, such that when the brain is presented with both channels, it is forced to use both hemispheres to make sense of the information. That results in a much more powerful subliminal, at the expense of having to use two channels. As a safety and backup, the information is eventually repeated in both channels such that even with a mono speaker it will work, but that is why it only gives about 45% of the full possible effect when you use mono instead of stereo.
If stereo speakers are placed next to each other, rather than on opposite sides of the room/head, would that make any difference?
(12-05-2015, 02:31 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-03-2015, 12:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Mixing a left and right channel into a single channel is mono. One channel results. Left and right no longer exist. When both channels have very similar data it would be sufficient. But in this case, I use each channel as an exclusive transport for information, such that when the brain is presented with both channels, it is forced to use both hemispheres to make sense of the information. That results in a much more powerful subliminal, at the expense of having to use two channels. As a safety and backup, the information is eventually repeated in both channels such that even with a mono speaker it will work, but that is why it only gives about 45% of the full possible effect when you use mono instead of stereo.
If stereo speakers are placed next to each other, rather than on opposite sides of the room/head, would that make any difference?

I remember Shannon saying the stereo effect is better if the speakers aren't that close to each other. Don't remember how much the distance should be for optimal results.
(12-03-2015, 12:15 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If I thought the aggressive approach was better, or as good, it would be in there. What I have found, however, is that for some personality types and some levels and types of fear, direct and aggressive is too much to handle, and produces a reverse result or causes the person to have too much fear to use the program.

Direct is certainly in there. But aggressive is not all it's cracked up to be overall, and so I'll be taking a better path this time.

I am using the Overcoming fear in 4G alongside the AYPG subliminal, and yes I have found that it can be quite aggressive when it comes to voicing my opinion or when someone annoys me and I do so with an angry tone, I have noticed this quite a bit, it definitely is done fearlessly though it did cause some conflict and tension between me and the relevant parties because I was getting quite angry Big Grin while saying what was much needed this part of the script is definitely working its way:

"I can now do, say, be and achieve anything.

I now allow myself to do, say, be and achieve whatever I want to."

I also subconsciously felt it was partly the AM programming which addresses the tolerance for other peoples bullS(0% tolerance).
By the way, Shannon, when do you think the other upgraded AYPS programs will be available?
Also are any 5g ayp romantic subs going to be available any time soon? I don't think I'm about that player life.
So I created A list of things I would like to see in LTU 4.0

1.Frame Control (Frame Situations as being in my favor, have the strongest frame in any social situation)

2. Self Acceptance (When you accept yourself people will accept you and you will be influential, this is one of the thing that separates Stephen Curry from Lebron and Kobe. The latter two might be greater basketball players but curry is more well liked because he accepts himself for how he is. He honed his strengths while managing his weaknesses while the other 2 work on their weaknesses and put their strengths in check)

3. State-Shifting

4. SOA

5. Max Speed

6. The permission and right to create, express and exist. ( Should be a staple in every new program)

7. Strong Willpower (Be able to break through resistance with ease in life)

8. Assertiveness Programming (This will help in interpersonal communications where people will take you more seriously. Passive Aggressive people don't know how to express themselves clearly and to the point while aggressive people just want to be rude and not let you speak. What's important is finding middle ground and this middle ground is assertiveness)

9. Positive Expectations (what you expect and believe will happen will most likely happen)

10. Faith and Belief in yourself and your abilities (You ever hear of the placebo effect and the double slit experiment? Well having faith in yourself will get you the positive effects of these discoveries. We now know that what we expect and perceive becomes our reality. Your perception of events creates the reality you live in)

11. Non-Neediness ( When you are needy you more likely to repel everything that you want because the universe agrees you don't have what you think you need. Also women don't like needy men, the only needy creatures that adore are children.)

12. Powerful personal presence and Strength ( A must in all the multi purpose self development titles I.E. AF, AM,SM, LTU, WM, BASE, Etc. When you have powerful presence you can bend people by the force of your will.)

13. Kill Excuses (This will help with reasons that your brain makes up to not get out of your comfort zone and not take action. One of the reasons we have excuses in the first place is because of out early upbringings where our parents told us not to do. Then that got ingrained into us as a “comfort zone” and since our subconscious wants to maintain homeostasis we make up excuses not to step out of it.)

14. Persistence and Perseverance (When you are persistent in life you are more likely to get what you want than a person who gives up on the first couple tries, it took Colonel Saunders 1,009 times of asking until he got someone to accept his “secret Recipe”. This character trait will vastly improve your life. This is what separates the haves from the have nots in society)

15. Life is good ( Whatever you perceive becomes your reality so if you perceive life as good then it will be good)

16. Self Sufficiency( We in America are in an epidemic of children who grow up to be adults and have no idea how to provide for themselves. What does this lead too? Well first it leads to children who are in their parents house still dependent on them after 23. Also a sense of entitlement of “I can live off my parents” instead of trying to get ahead. And the parents complain but secretly love having control over the child. When you are self sufficient you can carry yourself in life without being a leech or beggar in society.)


17. Manifest Opportunities to better your life. (Self-explanatory, whether it's a new job or a better paying one when you manifest these opportunities and take them your life will be in for a big tune up)
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