(07-18-2016, 11:15 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Do you or anyone else get tiredness/exhaustion from just 3 loops? I can't tell if I'm feeling tired right now from the sub, or if I'm overtraining again from the gym.
I was totally plastered after 3 loops when sleeping. Ended up cutting back to 2 and as a result I am feeling so much better.
(07-18-2016, 08:01 PM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2016, 11:15 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Do you or anyone else get tiredness/exhaustion from just 3 loops? I can't tell if I'm feeling tired right now from the sub, or if I'm overtraining again from the gym.
I was totally plastered after 3 loops when sleeping. Ended up cutting back to 2 and as a result I am feeling so much better.
The models have consistently shown that 2-4 loops is best, with 3 being best for the majority of people.
It is rare I disagree with anything Shannon says but I do disagree that development of DMSI should stop now to focus on GPR. I think DMSI should be made strong enough to get people laid and that might take maybe version 2.3 at least?
(07-18-2016, 09:55 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]It is rare I disagree with anything Shannon says but I do disagree that development of DMSI should stop now to focus on GPR. I think DMSI should be made strong enough to get people laid and that might take maybe version 2.3 at least?
I believe it is strong enough to do that. It's just not strong enough to do that immediately.
Remember that this now has programming in it that is designed to clear out, heal, neutralize and get you to outgrow all the things you have going on inside you that may slow down pr prevent success. That is naturally going to be the first priority for the program. I'm estimating it will require 2-3 weeks of use to achieve that state, possibly 4. At that point, I believe we will see that people start getting much more positive results.
In the mean time, I cannot sit around and do nothing, and I cannot know what to adjust on DMSI 2.2 unless I see how this plays out. Furthermore, I am burned out working on DMSI, so I need to do something else for that reason also.
2.3/3.0 will have to wait.
(07-18-2016, 09:59 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2016, 09:55 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]It is rare I disagree with anything Shannon says but I do disagree that development of DMSI should stop now to focus on GPR. I think DMSI should be made strong enough to get people laid and that might take maybe version 2.3 at least?
I believe it is strong enough to do that. It's just not strong enough to do that immediately.
Remember that this now has programming in it that is designed to clear out, heal, neutralize and get you to outgrow all the things you have going on inside you that may slow down pr prevent success. That is naturally going to be the first priority for the program. I'm estimating it will require 2-3 weeks of use to achieve that state, possibly 4. At that point, I believe we will see that people start getting much more positive results.
In the mean time, I cannot sit around and do nothing, and I cannot know what to adjust on DMSI 2.2 unless I see how this plays out. Furthermore, I am burned out working on DMSI, so I need to do something else for that reason also.
2.3/3.0 will have to wait.
I agree with you Shannon. We are still testing this version, why work on something without giving it time to see what happens after the first few weeks? And do people really expect miracles after 1 loop? Give it time, have patience.
(07-18-2016, 11:55 PM)yeah! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2016, 04:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Give me some examples please.
One example would be that the way you feel affects your posture and give long enough this could lead to joint and spinal problems, muscular imbalances etc. In this case would E2 be run prior to MHS?
Stress has been shown to have knock on effects in the body, immune system, cancer, etc. As I write this I see 3 different subs you already have. I still think that stress is caused by precursor emotions most of the time and most of the time its GSF.
The new age Loise Hay and Annette Noontil type philosophy is that all disease and illness etc is caused by thoughts and emotions. But this is a belief system and not really proven so far. What is your opinion of this theory, do you think there is some level of truth to it or is all illness just an effect of environmental stress or bad luck?
Not to derail, but this reminds me simultaneously of Wilhelm Reich with his theory of body armor and ophthalmologist Richard Kaplan.
(07-18-2016, 11:55 PM)yeah! Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2016, 04:43 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Give me some examples please.
One example would be that the way you feel affects your posture and give long enough this could lead to joint and spinal problems, muscular imbalances etc. In this case would E2 be run prior to MHS?
Stress has been shown to have knock on effects in the body, immune system, cancer, etc. As I write this I see 3 different subs you already have. I still think that stress is caused by precursor emotions most of the time and most of the time its GSF.
The new age Loise Hay and Annette Noontil type philosophy is that all disease and illness etc is caused by thoughts and emotions. But this is a belief system and not really proven so far. What is your opinion of this theory, do you think there is some level of truth to it or is all illness just an effect of environmental stress or bad luck?
I think that illness and disease is generated originally by the desire of the soul to experience said illness or disease for self development purposes. It is frequently through faulty (conscious and shallow subconscious mind) thinking and beliefs, which lead to negativity, negative emotions and negative health effects, but not always through this medium that illness and disease come to be. In the end, the soul will use whatever is most convenient and effective to achieve the necessary state of illness or disease to learn whatever it is trying to learn through the experience of said illness or disease.
That's what I think.
I will have to consider doing EHPRA in HMS and GPR all in one. It seems like it would be a Good Thing ™, but I can't know for sure just yet.
(07-19-2016, 12:25 AM)yeah! Wrote: [ -> ]Ok thanks for considering, though I hadn't ever considered the development of the soul.
Regards.
"The Way Things Are" is VERY complex when you look at the whole picture. Most things originate from that sort of level or perspective originally. Not that here is a good place to explain the concept, but you asked.
(07-16-2016, 06:58 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-16-2016, 08:44 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-14-2016, 12:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-14-2016, 12:44 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ] (07-14-2016, 12:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like you could be designing a wish manifestation program. I wonder if I could make that work in 6G.
I am really looking forward to building E3 in 6G and just taking the world by storm. I am already really pleased with what E2 is doing, but I see a lot of room for improvement still.
A wish manifestation program? Now you're toying with us Shannon :p
I imagine and (hope) will be integrated into 6G programs in the future.
E3 would straight blow out any issues one has.haha
I don't know how yet to focus a wish manifestor on one wish without knowing what that wish is... the only thing I could use is "whatever you most want" at a conscious or subconscious level.
But be careful what you wish for... you might get it.
E3 is just gonna be the bomb diggity.
Im on my 40th Day of E2.
Please everyone read my journal and tell me if or what I'm doing wrong.
I havent noticed anything as yet 
How about you take a week off and see what happens and if you notice anything different.
Thanks a lot Shannon. If I take a week off I'm concerned ill go backwards and have to restart my count for 32 days again, am I correct?
Also a part of me says maybe I don't need to take a week off, because I have had 40days of consistent listening where there have been periods of not getting the 8hours minimum but sometimes 5hours or 3hours etc? Does this play a huge part? as Ive read journals where many with this E2 5.5 are getting results with few hours.
(07-16-2016, 11:04 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-16-2016, 10:27 PM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ] (07-16-2016, 07:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-16-2016, 09:40 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ] (07-15-2016, 09:29 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]I wonder if anyone had some strange reaction to V2.2. Did it yesterday for one loop. After almost an hour my heart was beating like crazy and I felt a pain in my chest but I finished the loop. Today I started listening and had the same after not even 20min so I stopped here. It has been four days since stopping V2.1, so not a valid tester. However, interested if anyone experienced similar things.
Ok, looks like nobody else has problems like these mentioned above. Today I did one loop again. Almost no pain in my chest but felt completely overwhelmed afterwards. Went swimming later, but had to go home soon. Felt panic and like almost collapsed. Don't know why this is happening. Either I am not able to adjust myself to these high energy levels or my subconscious would rather knock me out than making me irresistibly. Didn't experienced something like that with previous versions, just slightly increased heartbeat.
It sounds like you are experiencing a reaction to extreme fear being triggered by the program's instruction set. I would suggest no more than one loop a day, and at a moderate to low volume, until this reaction fades.
Yeah, I suspect something like this. It probably fits well with my outer experience. Until now it's more like aura of invisibility. Children were almost running into me a few times, customers who came after me at the supermarket were almost served first, and even if I was alone at the service point, stuff isn't noticing me forever (or just doesn't care, don't know). I feel a bit like a ghost.
Are you saying the program makes you feel like a ghost, or you used to before it?
Quick update here. The ghost effect seems to have disappeared. And starting to see outer reactions. But still being on the edge of having panic attacks while listening to the track or afterwards. Best reactions seems to be several hours after usage or even next day before listening for now.
So for the optimal loops, I forgot if you said 3 is the optimal for all, or there is a bell curve, and most will do best with 3, but some will do better with 2 or 4, or other amounts? Or did the bell curve represent effectiveness of that amount of loops, not amount of people who respond best to that amount of loops? If you know what I mean.
(07-16-2016, 07:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-16-2016, 05:50 PM)Dubls Wrote: [ -> ] (05-29-2016, 06:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2016, 11:10 PM)kenpachi Wrote: [ -> ]Are any of the results designed to be permanent? Or when you stop using will the aura gradually fade until you're back to baseline?
Generally an aura based sub is aimed at being effective while it is being run. The reason for this is the amount of energy required to produce this sort of effect. It would conflict with achieving maximum success with other subliminals you may run in the future if I tried to make it permanent.
Is SM3 designed to produce permanent results?
If it is used enough, yes.
hi Shannon,
just to clarify, when you say "enough", do you mean
- according to the instructions, meaning 32 days per stage, 12-16 hrs per day,
or
- run the whole SM 3.0 program according to the instructions multiple times over??
What is GPR? I wish we had a sticky closed thread with FAQS of updates that come out instead of reading posts thread by thread trying to figure out what is going on lol.
