Shannon's Journal Discussion

[Shannon]

If I do weed will it help EPHRA 2.0? Sort of like how Darth used MDMA to enhance E2? I don't really like weed, but if it gave me an edge I would be open to trying it with E2.

My apologies if talking about drugs is against the rules.

No. weed will not help you with E2. It will, in fact, have the reverse effect.

[Shannon]

all of the people between the legal age of sexual consent and the maximum age I am willing to have sex with, of the gender I am sexually attracted to

But what if we aren't 'willing to have sex with' them?

Finding someone visually appealing is a long way off wanting to have sex with them for me. I would need to meet them first... which probably isn't going to happen if the aura doesn't attract them.

On top of that, for those of us in a relationship, it pretty much rules out everyone! Isn't it basically an off switch as soon as you are 'committed'? I am not 'willing to have sex with' most women I find highly desirable because that would upset my other half. I might secretly want to, but that's different. And I might be persuaded under the right circumstances!

I would just remove the phrase 'I am willing to have sex with' and maybe the word 'sexually' too

Good old Swisston, always the contrarian.

Willing to have sex with, and want to, or ready to, or going to, not the same thing.

But, I would say that the goals of this program conflict with what you want. So unless I find a way to override your fears and resultant resistance, and cause you to act on opportunities that result regardless of your LTR, you are likely to get nowhere because you won't allow yourself to execute the script because it's goal directly conflicts with yours!

I personally don't think it will ever be possible for me to please all of you.

If I try to please those of you who are single, then those of you who are involved will be unhappy. If I try to do the reverse, then the unhappiness inverts with it.

I am aiming this at pleasing the majority.

If we attract everyone of the gender you are attracted to, the models show an almost neutral response from the user base. On a scale of -10 to +10, it rated a +1. This is likely because there is so much energy going out that results are not great, and lots of undesired people are responding.

I have modeled your suggestions, and several variants, and this is what I find.

Your original suggestion rates a +5 in the model on the aforementioned scale. I will not accept anything less than +8.

Secondary suggestion rates +3.

I took the liberty of exploring various other wordings, and found one that rates +9, equal to the one I already mentioned. This one has been accepted for consideration:

all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them

I kind of like the 'willing to have sex with' script :

Sadly, what you like and what works are not always the same thing. I am frequently surprised by the models in that regard. I come up with what I think is the perfect wording, and they consistently pick something that seems like nothing special to me. But when I test it, my preferred one does what the models said it would and fails, and the one the models picked succeeds. So it sucks to be us.

I have two options that rate high enough now. Still looking. The final that gets used will be the one that rates highest in a comparison of all of the finalists.

[Shannon]

Hey shannon,
I am using US and Luck Mag. I use US during the night. It's been a week now. I started dreaming bad dreams during the night. Breathing diff according to my gf. Ones I dreamed that I killed someone badly. And the other night I dreamed that I got killed by my sis. Anyway today I dreamed something bad too I just can't remember it as my gf woke me up for breathing diff and screaming. After that I immediately dreamed being so lucky and someone got me a new car. Is the bad dreams normal? Can't be avoided? What should I expect?

Also regarding the exposure. I use US during the night for 6hrs and Luck Mag during the day for 6hrs. Is this a correct way? One last thing, I feel my head is so heavy it's kinda headache. Is that because of me over listening? Should I take a break? I believe that am not getting enough exposure from Luck Mag as I try to listen to it during the day for at least 4 hours

Obviously there is something you are afraid of in either being successful or being "lucky". Bad dreams usually result when there is fear of or conflict with the goal of the program or stage you are doing.

6 hours each, one during the night and one during the day sounds reasonable. Just make sure they have equal amounts of time between each (6 hours, in this case). 6 hours US, 6 hours nothing, 6 hours LM, 6 hours nothing.

If you're feeling heavy an getting a headache, that can be be because of resistance, overvoluming, or overlistening. I would say overvolume and resistance sound like the most likely explanations to me.

Sorry for asking so much. What would be a good volume? Also is the accelerate in breathing safe?

A good volume is the volume at which you calibrate it by following the instructions for calibrating it.

Accelerated breathing is simply a sign of stress and fear.

[Benjamin]

I just seen this potential scripting.

all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them

I can't say that makes sense to me, cos then it would point to people who already want to have sex with you.

[Womanizer]

all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them

I like that option better , because you can always ask for the age of the consenting person.

[CatMan]

Hi Shannon,

I like this line for DMSI/AOSI/DAOSI/CNN/HUGDIHX/WHATEVER

"all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them", rather than the age limiter statement if I had to choose between them even though I think a lot of wording in it is unnecessary. Many countries have different age consent laws, and under different situations, so it's unlikely people would somehow inherently know what age a person is and somehow know what age is legal or not in whatever country they're in and what circumstances. I'd rather not have a lawyer in my head. Seems like it would just inhibit performance and complicate it's process, like maybe if a girl looks younger than she is etc., similar to how the earlier sexual orientation limiters did. I'd really prefer not having a minefield like age limiting in the sub, that could ruin it for someone like me who travels a lot and countries have vastly different laws. Please don't put something like that in there. Let's get the sub to the point of actually working as advertised, before we nerf it down with conditions before it starts to work. Makes sense to me.

But on this statement, another thing I didn't understand, is how would it work? If attractive women are out there and don't seem to be sexually interested now, then how can the sub work? Isn't it supposed to work by US wanting THEM, then the sub works it's magic? So making the other person the catalyst, I'm not sure how that would work. If unattractive girls are coming onto me and instigating because of this statement, because they're the catalyst now rather than me, that isn't desirable. I have to be attracted first, for anything further to matter. So, something like: "all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to", isn't that enough? Seems obvious enough to me, I don't have much interest in little girls, nor do I have much interest in grannies. But, from 16ish up, to maybe 35ish or so, I'm good. That's more than legal here, so nobody hate. I think most people don't really need such age limiters to tell them what they should be attracted to, people already know what they're attracted to.

Anyway, looking forward to 2.2. Like the rest of the forum, lol. I might make the switch to 2.2, and finally announce the superfight of DMSI V2.2 vs. CatMan, for the V Card Heavyweight Championship Title, Live on HBO.

"Heayweight Champion Of The WWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!"

[Womanizer]

I just seen this potential scripting.

all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them

I can't say that makes sense to me, cos then it would point to people who already want to have sex with you.

That's the point , so those people make themselves more obviously known. Some people may want to have sex with you but may pretend to not want it , because of insecurities , guilt , shame and fear. The sub will expose these people and will facilitate sex with the user. It's all about using your subconscious for faster sex. No?

[SargeMaximus]

I just seen this potential scripting.

all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them

I can't say that makes sense to me, cos then it would point to people who already want to have sex with you.

That's the point , so those people make themselves more obviously known. Some people may want to have sex with you but may pretend to not want it , because of insecurities , guilt , shame and fear. The sub will expose these people and will facilitate sex with the user. It's all about using your subconscious for faster sex. No?

No. It takes too much power away from the user. Any time you take responsibility out of your hands in life shit gets ugly.

[maxx55]

Hi Shannon,

I like this line for DMSI/AOSI/DAOSI/CNN/HUGDIHX/WHATEVER

"all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them", rather than the age limiter statement if I had to choose between them even though I think a lot of wording in it is unnecessary. Many countries have different age consent laws, and under different situations, so it's unlikely people would somehow inherently know what age a person is and somehow know what age is legal or not in whatever country they're in and what circumstances. I'd rather not have a lawyer in my head. Seems like it would just inhibit performance and complicate it's process, like maybe if a girl looks younger than she is etc., similar to how the earlier sexual orientation limiters did. I'd really prefer not having a minefield like age limiting in the sub, that could ruin it for someone like me who travels a lot and countries have vastly different laws. Please don't put something like that in there. Let's get the sub to the point of actually working as advertised, before we nerf it down with conditions before it starts to work. Makes sense to me.

I thought this too when I read the statement. Can you elaborate on exactly what it means Shannon? And will we know the statement you end up going with when you build 2.2?

[Benjamin]

And the legal age thing, half the time it's really hard to tell age and somehow, probably due to fear I assume "oh they may be too young". If you have no idea how old they are is it just going to filter them out because of that. Cos in reality they may not be.

[lokko]

Shannon can you put a script in regards to controlling ejaculation into dmsi 2.2. I mean if this is a sex sub this would help us premature ejaculators out there. Dang it i have yet to commit to using the premature ejaculation 5g sub. I'm always thinking you might do a 5.5 version of it so i hold off on it.

[Steven]

Shannon,

Regarding:

"all of the attractive people of the gender I am sexually attracted to, who want to seduce me into having sex with them"

In some form or another, I think I'm with Ben on this one...

If a person is "plain" looking, poorly dressed, and socially nervous, there will be likely be a smaller pool of possibilities for such a user of the program.

On the other hand:

"all of the people between the legal age of sexual consent and the maximum age I am willing to have sex with, of the gender I am sexually attracted to"

might be a larger pool of more desirable possibilities.

Now if the program was oriented to have "all of the people between the legal age of sexual consent and the maximum age I am willing to have sex with, of the gender I am sexually attracted to want to seduce me into having sex with them"...

[Benjamin]

It's kind of like that statement presupposes it will only work on people who already wanted to have sex with you before you used the program as opposed to finding new people who want to. And like Steven said that would severely limit it if you're someone who doesn't have alot of people who already want to have sex with you. That's what that sentence communicates to me anyway.

I like ""all of the people between the legal age of sexual consent and the maximum age I am willing to have sex with, of the gender I am sexually attracted to"" better.

[Womanizer]

And the legal age thing, half the time it's really hard to tell age and somehow, probably due to fear I assume "oh they may be too young". If you have no idea how old they are is it just going to filter them out because of that. Cos in reality they may not be.

When I was 18 I had this milf who was a friends mom , who asked for my age but she didn't believe me when I said I was 18. So she asked me to prove it by me showing my ID to her. So I did I ended up hooking up with her , and the girls I brought with me I (pawned) her to her son pua term here , for better lack of word. So you can just ask for an ID. Plus it's a great conversation starter, hey I find you cute are you 18? Simple and cut through the bs.