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(10-31-2019, 01:43 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Thank you for refining my question.

I have gotten some kind of restriction on my account because I have posted something that wasn’t pleasing to you or one of your moderators, which is a reason for this being my last post here as I don’t feel like being treated as a five year old. Just wanted to express my gratitude for your work, and that i am staying as a loyal customer because you have always treated me fairly, helped me clarify things that have troubled my life and given me a great product in form of LTU which has done wonders so far. I however want to express my dissatisfaction with one of your moderators which I have felt has driven an agenda towards me and I have experienced me being treated unfairly and unprofessionaly by him.

Best of luck with your work. You are making a true difference and I truly believe you will achieve the level of penetration with your product that you aim for with all the qualitative and diligent work you put in during the years.

Greenduck.

Greenduck you've been pulling all this crap for quite a while have been warned several times, and proved what i've said again and again. So I would prefer you stop all of that in the future, giving advice on things you know nothing about and asking weird questions that you just come up with out of nowhere which is partly what several people who were banned used to do, and it gets old.

You constantly push it and then pretend i'm picking on you, pretend you're not doing what you're doing. And then i'm the barstard for pointing out what's been going on for much too long.

Yes you're a customer, and it's appreciated. But that doesn't give you a free pass for constantly pushing it, asking questions that don't have much to do with any programs you're using, giving people advice that isn't helpful, and also advice that is potentially dangerous like you got banned for before.

I shouldn't have to constantly run around making sure you aren't giving yet more potentially damaging advice to people who are really in a bad place like you have several times before, and other things.. but that's sadly what I have to spend alot of time doing. And each time you act innocent and clueless to any of it.

And that's why I now have your posts as activation only, if I have to treat you like a 5 year old like you mention then so be it because you never get the point and I have to make sure you aren't doing these same things you temporarily get banned for then I may aswell really do that and have your posts as activation only until you get the point.

And this is also what i'm talking about...

Quote:I have gotten some kind of restriction on my account because I have posted something that wasn’t pleasing to you or one of your moderators

Lots of people post things that I don't like, and sometimes think "wtf' at, and I just read it and move on. So don't pretend it's just you 'posted something I don't like'.

You on the other hand have already been temporarily banned for similar behaviour, giving people advice where you really aren't qualified to, especially when it would be damaging to them, constantly coming up with more and more alot of the time unrelated questions, and usually don't even reply or giave thanks to the responses that we spend time on, and instead just come up with more questions.

Yet when it's a negative response when we get annoyed by you constantly doing it, you're quick to write a big post about how you're being picked on and have done nothing to warrant it, which isn't true. The amount of help for different things both me and Shannon have given you and leeway you've been given for all this is pretty big and yet when I have enough of your behaviour I have an agenda and am 'unprofessional'. This is the kind of crap i'm sick of from you on top of everything else.

But really I don't know why i'm still writing any of this, because as every other time you won't pay attention to any of it, nor even what Shannon posted about it.

And i'm far from the only one who sees you're doing alot of this just for attention.

Your other couple of posts that I haven't approved don't help your case of potentially needing to be banned for this constantly.

Yeah, I personally feel like some of the advice Greenduck has given me lately has been well intentioned, though misguided and unhelpful. 

As for asking strange questions, uh-oh! I didn't know you and Shannon had such a problem with questions not strictly related to our subliminal usages. I'm gonna have to put more thought into the possible level of perceived appropriateness regarding any question I ask from now on. I hope I haven't myself asked questions you and/or Shannon found bothersome. If so, you have my apologies, and if you answered them and I did not express gratitude, you have my sincere apologies for that as well and I would like to rectify that by expressing gratitude now. Thank you both for all the time and effort you put into customer service by answering our questions and generally helping us out! I'll pay more attention to the appropriateness of my questions from here on out.
Quote:Yeah, I personally feel like some of the advice Greenduck has given me lately has been well intentioned, though misguided and unhelpful.

That's the thing, he's not doing it from a place of actually knowing or having achieved much in these areas.. he's doing it in the hope that he can feel helpful. And has in fact given some quite bad advice that could be damaging.

Quote:As for asking strange questions, uh-oh! I didn't know you and Shannon had such a problem with questions not strictly related to our subliminal usages. I'm gonna have to put more thought into the possible level of perceived appropriateness regarding any question I ask from now on. I hope I haven't myself asked questions you and/or Shannon found bothersome. If so, you have my apologies, and if you answered them and I did not express gratitude, you have my sincere apologies for that as well and I would like to rectify that by expressing gratitude now. Thank you both for all the time and effort you put into customer service by answering our questions and generally helping us out! I'll pay more attention to the appropriateness of my questions from here on out.

It's more that there's been a couple of people in the past, including Greenduck now who like every day or two come up with more unusual and out there questions, like he asked one that makes sense on anxiety, then doesn't even respond to the answer to it, but instead a day or two later comes up with another one that really makes absolutely no sense at all. 

And has constantly done so. To take it to the extreme would be kind of like "Hey Shannon, what did you eat for breakfast, lunch and tea today?" and he spends time answering then a day later "Oh Shannon, what did you eat today, was it different than yesterday? How many times did you goto the toilet?".

Then I get annoyed at it, even after spending a huge amount of time going out of our way to help that person then they're like "oh you're just picking on me, I never did anything wrong, you're unprofessional and i'm totally innocent in all of this" after pushing it constantly. This is one of the common demoninators between the few people that got banned a while ago.

And the same people rarely seem to care about the effort put into help them, but as soon as I get annoyed at their continued behaviour they're yelling out about that as much as they can and acting innocent.

And they can never take any response back and just are oblivious to it.

So don't worry too much, you're fine. Like i've even said a few things to you like it's not helping your mindset to refer to yourself as a certain thing and you actually got it. Where the people i'm talking about would have a big post rationalizing it all and having no idea.
(10-31-2019, 06:26 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Yeah, I personally feel like some of the advice Greenduck has given me lately has been well intentioned, though misguided and unhelpful.

That's the thing, he's not doing it from a place of actually knowing or having achieved much in these areas.. he's doing it in the hope that he can feel helpful. And has in fact given some quite bad advice that could be damaging.
 

Yeah, I can tell he hasn't succeeded in those ares, because he still has the mindset that sometimes you just gotta eat shit and like it. Not a healthy mindset. Not the attitude of success.


(10-31-2019, 06:26 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:As for asking strange questions, uh-oh! I didn't know you and Shannon had such a problem with questions not strictly related to our subliminal usages. I'm gonna have to put more thought into the possible level of perceived appropriateness regarding any question I ask from now on. I hope I haven't myself asked questions you and/or Shannon found bothersome. If so, you have my apologies, and if you answered them and I did not express gratitude, you have my sincere apologies for that as well and I would like to rectify that by expressing gratitude now. Thank you both for all the time and effort you put into customer service by answering our questions and generally helping us out! I'll pay more attention to the appropriateness of my questions from here on out.

It's more that there's been a couple of people in the past, including Greenduck now who like every day or two come up with more unusual and out there questions, like he asked one that makes sense on anxiety, then doesn't even respond to the answer to it, but instead a day or two later comes up with another one that really makes absolutely no sense at all. 

And has constantly done so. To take it to the extreme would be kind of like "Hey Shannon, what did you eat for breakfast, lunch and tea today?" and he spends time answering then a day later "Oh Shannon, what did you eat today, was it different than yesterday? How many times did you goto the toilet?".

Then I get annoyed at it, even after spending a huge amount of time going out of our way to help that person then they're like "oh you're just picking on me, I never did anything wrong, you're unprofessional and i'm totally innocent in all of this" after pushing it constantly. This is one of the common demoninators between the few people that got banned a while ago.

And the same people rarely seem to care about the effort put into help them, but as soon as I get annoyed at their continued behaviour they're yelling out about that as much as they can and acting innocent.

And they can never take any response back and just are oblivious to it.

So don't worry too much, you're fine. Like i've even said a few things to you like it's not helping your mindset to refer to yourself as a certain thing and you actually got it. Where the people i'm talking about would have a big post rationalizing it all and having no idea.


Yeah, I can see how that's frustrating. TBH I've gone down a very similar road, but worse. Just ask my online mentor. He's had the patience of a SAINT, ansseri g the SAME questions over and over again, sometimes taking hours to do so, only for me not to get it, repeat the same questions, not show appreciation , sometimes be unresponsive, and just generally waste his time and energy wothout showing him enough due acknowledgement or appreciation. I'm glad he's been so patient with me. I am TRYING to be better about that as best I can. And I contact him WAYY less, because I realize how much I was rudely and ungratefully draining precious time and energy je has little of. 

So I read what you say about Greenduck's behaviour and I can still see myself in it. It's good that I can though. It makes me more understanding of others behaving similarly.

But yeah, I understand that has to be frustrating.
Learn from the mistakes of others. Saves you a lot of time. But also learn from your own mistakes.
Yeah. I'm also learning to see even my former more toxic self as being worthy of love and value in their own way, viewing that part of my life as a necessary building block for the creation of my higher self. I try to see my toxic self's beauty as part of a whole, like how in early years of television, they had these "tubes" inside of them that first created a screen of white light and then canceled that white light out to varying degrees to create an actual image. The darkness reveals the light. Gives you an understanding of the whole.
(10-31-2019, 07:28 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-31-2019, 06:26 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Yeah, I personally feel like some of the advice Greenduck has given me lately has been well intentioned, though misguided and unhelpful.

That's the thing, he's not doing it from a place of actually knowing or having achieved much in these areas.. he's doing it in the hope that he can feel helpful. And has in fact given some quite bad advice that could be damaging.
 

Yeah, I can tell he hasn't succeeded in those ares, because he still has the mindset that sometimes you just gotta eat shit and like it. Not a healthy mindset. Not the attitude of success.


(10-31-2019, 06:26 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:As for asking strange questions, uh-oh! I didn't know you and Shannon had such a problem with questions not strictly related to our subliminal usages. I'm gonna have to put more thought into the possible level of perceived appropriateness regarding any question I ask from now on. I hope I haven't myself asked questions you and/or Shannon found bothersome. If so, you have my apologies, and if you answered them and I did not express gratitude, you have my sincere apologies for that as well and I would like to rectify that by expressing gratitude now. Thank you both for all the time and effort you put into customer service by answering our questions and generally helping us out! I'll pay more attention to the appropriateness of my questions from here on out.

It's more that there's been a couple of people in the past, including Greenduck now who like every day or two come up with more unusual and out there questions, like he asked one that makes sense on anxiety, then doesn't even respond to the answer to it, but instead a day or two later comes up with another one that really makes absolutely no sense at all. 

And has constantly done so. To take it to the extreme would be kind of like "Hey Shannon, what did you eat for breakfast, lunch and tea today?" and he spends time answering then a day later "Oh Shannon, what did you eat today, was it different than yesterday? How many times did you goto the toilet?".

Then I get annoyed at it, even after spending a huge amount of time going out of our way to help that person then they're like "oh you're just picking on me, I never did anything wrong, you're unprofessional and i'm totally innocent in all of this" after pushing it constantly. This is one of the common demoninators between the few people that got banned a while ago.

And the same people rarely seem to care about the effort put into help them, but as soon as I get annoyed at their continued behaviour they're yelling out about that as much as they can and acting innocent.

And they can never take any response back and just are oblivious to it.

So don't worry too much, you're fine. Like i've even said a few things to you like it's not helping your mindset to refer to yourself as a certain thing and you actually got it. Where the people i'm talking about would have a big post rationalizing it all and having no idea.


Yeah, I can see how that's frustrating. TBH I've gone down a very similar road, but worse. Just ask my online mentor. He's had the patience of a SAINT, ansseri g the SAME questions over and over again, sometimes taking hours to do so, only for me not to get it, repeat the same questions, not show appreciation , sometimes be unresponsive, and just generally waste his time and energy wothout showing him enough due acknowledgement or appreciation. I'm glad he's been so patient with me. I am TRYING to be better about that as best I can. And I contact him WAYY less, because I realize how much I was rudely and ungratefully draining precious time and energy je has little of. 

So I read what you say about Greenduck's behaviour and I can still see myself in it. It's good that I can though. It makes me more understanding of others behaving similarly.

But yeah, I understand that has to be frustrating.

In my humble opinion, I have noticed that some guys here who have unresolved daddy issues tend to play them out on Shannon, particularly those with absentee fathers. This tends to play out with the members making lots of noise just to get attention.

It's always a good idea to refine your questions Evolving Phoenix. I personally get sick when I see the same inane questions asked of Shannon and I usually avoid the forums when that becomes the norm. So in the interest of good quality readership, definitely ask only worthwhile questions.

I gave Greenduck a negative rating a few days ago because I see what Ben sees. He's not wrong in his assessment of Greenduck and the behaviour Greenduck is exhibiting is very similar to some other unsavory characters who got the boot earlier in the year.

The only other thing I'd add to the list of grievances is how he tries to influence Shannon into doing what he wants Shannon to do. It shows no respect for Shannon as an autonomous human being. I can understand where he took it from because Sarge used to run that same program but he needs to understand that behaviour is no longer acceptable.
Sorry Shannon has to deal with that. I got my own issues, but thankfully "daddy issues" aren't among them. Yeah, I just put suggestions in the suggestion section. And when they're suggestions I intend to purchase if they get made, I post them there, labeled as requests. I hadn't noticed Greenduck giving bad advice until recently, with his most recent posts on my journal. We fundamentally disagree on the whole "Sometimes, you just gotta suck it up and do shit that sucks amd learn how to enjoy it" belief. He endorses it, I intend to circumvent it.
(10-30-2019, 12:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2019, 02:12 PM)Yous Wrote: [ -> ]Could be good yo have an estimation of which subs will be the next one. Maybe there is people waiting and not buying some of then just in case that sub they want to buy will have soon a new version. For example MIR or MHS...

I don't usually know which subs will be built next until I start working on them.  That is because the conditions that affect my choices and options of what the best thing to build next is change so quickly.

Right now I am in the process of actually building GPR-P18 Code Name "Elwood" (the code name tells me which level of power was used in the Magnus Engine, but prevents placebo from the testers and users).  I am also working on SIA 5.75G, Beast 19, a program I'll keep secret for now, MIR v3, a program we'll call "PS3v4", and after those we will probably be working on MHS and an allergy relief program.

My goal is to build GPR-P18 not just for general use or my own occasional cluster headaches, but as help for someone I know who suffers horrible chronic pain from a series of infections that modern medical science doesn't know how to kill yet.

For that same person, I am prioritizing and working on MIRv3 and MHS.  

These three programs, MHS, GPR and MIR, will be combined into a single super-program that is aimed at combating the primary and co-infections that people seem to be getting from tick bites that wreak havoc on their lives.  I know two people who have that problem, and there are hundreds of thousands more in the United States alone.  I'm not expecting that MIR v3 will magically kill all the infections, but it will be a lot more powerful than v2.1, and a lot more capable and complex, and it will show me what else MIR needs to be able to trigger the body to be able to deal with that situation.

So in the near term, we will be focusing on those three and upgrading FRM.

Good news, I've been with the flu these days and I doubted whether or not to buy MiR. Thanks for the info.





(10-30-2019, 12:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2019, 02:12 PM)Yous Wrote: [ -> ]Could be good yo have an estimation of which subs will be the next one. Maybe there is people waiting and not buying some of then just in case that sub they want to buy will have soon a new version. For example MIR or MHS...

I don't usually know which subs will be built next until I start working on them.  That is because the conditions that affect my choices and options of what the best thing to build next is change so quickly.

Right now I am in the process of actually building GPR-P18 Code Name "Elwood" (the code name tells me which level of power was used in the Magnus Engine, but prevents placebo from the testers and users).  I am also working on SIA 5.75G, Beast 19, a program I'll keep secret for now, MIR v3, a program we'll call "PS3v4", and after those we will probably be working on MHS and an allergy relief program.

My goal is to build GPR-P18 not just for general use or my own occasional cluster headaches, but as help for someone I know who suffers horrible chronic pain from a series of infections that modern medical science doesn't know how to kill yet.

For that same person, I am prioritizing and working on MIRv3 and MHS.  

These three programs, MHS, GPR and MIR, will be combined into a single super-program that is aimed at combating the primary and co-infections that people seem to be getting from tick bites that wreak havoc on their lives.  I know two people who have that problem, and there are hundreds of thousands more in the United States alone.  I'm not expecting that MIR v3 will magically kill all the infections, but it will be a lot more powerful than v2.1, and a lot more capable and complex, and it will show me what else MIR needs to be able to trigger the body to be able to deal with that situation.

So in the near term, we will be focusing on those three and upgrading FRM.
That is soooooo magnificent & incredible. The Power house Combo of Three!! I know that I & Tons of others could and would benefit from this greatly!! Of course they would ,thats why your're building it right? Smile & da Wink!! This profound !!!!
Hi Shannon,

thanks for your replies, i would like to try ara and laser focus, but that means stopping dmsi.

I can use the awakener and stay on dmsi? By using the awakener will that demonstrate that i am hearing the subliminals even though its not doing the same as ara or laser focus but would still provide enough infomation to say that i am able to hear the subliminals and its just stonewalling on dmsi?

Thanks.
(11-01-2019, 06:11 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-30-2019, 12:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2019, 02:12 PM)Yous Wrote: [ -> ]Could be good yo have an estimation of which subs will be the next one. Maybe there is people waiting and not buying some of then just in case that sub they want to buy will have soon a new version. For example MIR or MHS...

I don't usually know which subs will be built next until I start working on them.  That is because the conditions that affect my choices and options of what the best thing to build next is change so quickly.

Right now I am in the process of actually building GPR-P18 Code Name "Elwood" (the code name tells me which level of power was used in the Magnus Engine, but prevents placebo from the testers and users).  I am also working on SIA 5.75G, Beast 19, a program I'll keep secret for now, MIR v3, a program we'll call "PS3v4", and after those we will probably be working on MHS and an allergy relief program.

My goal is to build GPR-P18 not just for general use or my own occasional cluster headaches, but as help for someone I know who suffers horrible chronic pain from a series of infections that modern medical science doesn't know how to kill yet.

For that same person, I am prioritizing and working on MIRv3 and MHS.  

These three programs, MHS, GPR and MIR, will be combined into a single super-program that is aimed at combating the primary and co-infections that people seem to be getting from tick bites that wreak havoc on their lives.  I know two people who have that problem, and there are hundreds of thousands more in the United States alone.  I'm not expecting that MIR v3 will magically kill all the infections, but it will be a lot more powerful than v2.1, and a lot more capable and complex, and it will show me what else MIR needs to be able to trigger the body to be able to deal with that situation.

So in the near term, we will be focusing on those three and upgrading FRM.
That is soooooo magnificent & incredible. The Power house Combo of Three!! I know that I & Tons of others could and would benefit from this greatly!! Of course they would ,thats why your're building it right? Smile & da Wink!! This profound !!!!

That's why I am building it.

I am going to try to make MIR trigger the body to go after on viral, bacterial, fungal, yeast and parasitic infections, although not all types of parasitic infections can be dealt with by the immune system.  I'm also not sure what version will see the program aimed at working on parasitic, fungal and yeast infections specifically.  IMy plan is to build V3 as solidly as possible based on what I currently understand and then add to it.  If I can do those, or some of those, in v3, then I will.  If not, then they will wait for a future version.
(11-01-2019, 06:30 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

thanks for your replies, i would like to try ara and laser focus, but that means stopping dmsi.

I can use the awakener and stay on dmsi? By using the awakener will that demonstrate that i am hearing the subliminals even though its not doing the same as ara or laser focus but would still provide enough infomation to say that i am able to hear the subliminals and its just stonewalling on dmsi?

Thanks.

I suggest you pick ONE of those three (Awakener, ARA, LFC) and use it.  Awakener is pretty obvious when you're tired.  LFC is pretty obvious when you're scatterbrained.  ARA is pretty obvious if you're anxious.  Just pick one and try it.  If it doesn't work for you, then it's a pretty good bet that subliminals in general aren't going to be very effective for you at this point.

And yes, stop DMSI to do this.
(10-30-2019, 11:57 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2019, 05:52 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon i really hope Ltu6 comes out soon. I have serious problems with anxiety and would love ARA in LTU. LTU5 has helped me a lot but I’m still troubled by some things. By the way, can you have anxiety for no reason? Like no actual thing you are anxious about but just have an anxious nature? I for example have much more anxiety when being away from home but it subsided when I get home. However I have really bad anxiety in the mornings some times even when at home.

LTU6 will come out when I have the component upgrades ready.  When that is, I don't know.  But... ARA is in LTU5.

You cannot have anxiety for no reason, as Ben has said.  "No apparent reason" just means "subconscious fear that I don't know the cause of".  And as Ben said, a "fearful nature" is basically just a habit of being afraid of everything subconsciously as your coping mechanism.

LTU6 is coming.  Be patient.  I can only go so fast with this stuff.

Hey Shannon

Do you have any clue about whether LTU will be in 2019 or not? Not trying to rush you at all - I know that A LOT of components have to go into this sub and that you have other subs scheduled. I've had to use ARA since it was released due to an above-average workload. I can probably stop using the sub in two weeks and maybe move to DMSI, but if LTU is coming out in the foreseeable future, I'll stay on ARA since I really enjoy it.
(11-01-2019, 09:09 AM)Hanpan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-30-2019, 11:57 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2019, 05:52 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon i really hope Ltu6 comes out soon. I have serious problems with anxiety and would love ARA in LTU. LTU5 has helped me a lot but I’m still troubled by some things. By the way, can you have anxiety for no reason? Like no actual thing you are anxious about but just have an anxious nature? I for example have much more anxiety when being away from home but it subsided when I get home. However I have really bad anxiety in the mornings some times even when at home.

LTU6 will come out when I have the component upgrades ready.  When that is, I don't know.  But... ARA is in LTU5.

You cannot have anxiety for no reason, as Ben has said.  "No apparent reason" just means "subconscious fear that I don't know the cause of".  And as Ben said, a "fearful nature" is basically just a habit of being afraid of everything subconsciously as your coping mechanism.

LTU6 is coming.  Be patient.  I can only go so fast with this stuff.

Hey Shannon

Do you have any clue about whether LTU will be in 2019 or not? Not trying to rush you at all - I know that A LOT of components have to go into this sub and that you have other subs scheduled. I've had to use ARA since it was released due to an above-average workload. I can probably stop using the sub in two weeks and maybe move to DMSI, but if LTU is coming out in the foreseeable future, I'll stay on ARA since I really enjoy it.

LTU6 most likely isn't coming out in 2019.  I have too much stuff to develop for the upgrades, and just working on FRM is taking forever lately.
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