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(12-08-2020, 09:37 AM)firsthelix Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-08-2020, 06:25 AM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]What’s up Shannon? Feedback in general on these products can be a bit spotty and it’s made worse by a lack of coherency when one DOES ask for feedback. Here’s my experiences and feedback for the new Orgasm Enhancer. 
For those reading, this post is NOT SAFE FOR WORK. Read at your own risk. 

Background Info:

Me and my girlfriend are 2 months into our relationship. To be blunt, I didn’t really think I needed this subliminal but I was interested in keeping the spark up in our relationship and also I was curious to see what this bad boy could do.

My GF is late 20’s and I am in my early 30’s. We’re both graduate students and enrolled in a hellacious program pursuing advanced degrees. Those who’ve done PhDs or any higher level education know how stressful this stuff is. 


Relationship Prior to Orgasm Enhancer:

We connected on lots of mutualistic understanding and due to high compatibility in multiple areas including rule 4, emotional language, physical attractiveness, communication, and yes of course sexual compatibility (which became apparent after the other stuff). Sex is already awesome between the two of us as mentioned previously but we both had lots of baggage and issues from past relationships that we had to work through to start enjoying sex more.

Example: GF has had negative experiences due to her race and perceived attractiveness. She is a beautiful woman but unsavory individuals and bad experiences made her doubt that in the past. She also has some hang-ups sexually which made her feel guilty about enjoying sex but  I’ve been successful at working through those issues with her. 

Usage of Orgasms Enhancer:

Typically I use at least one loop prior to love making although sometimes it’ll be two loops prior to exposure. Normally I let it play on throughout the entire session. And for those wondering, my GF doesn’t really know much about subliminals although she has seen the title for OE pop up on my phone. This program does work better if sex takes place after 2 loops and/or you’ve been exposing the woman (and yourself) to OE several times previously.

Sex with Orgasm Enhancer:

The part most of y'all wanted to read the most. TLDR; Yes it worksSo the very first time I used it I definitely noticed more enthusiasm from the GF. Granted, I can elicit multiple orgasms from her anyway but right away the very first orgasm was extremely intense which I judge based on the amount of shaking she was doing. She normally will cum the hardest from me going down on her and I can usually get a few orgasms this way. This also helps me get orgasms from penetration easier as well. 

What I was more so curious about was if EVERY orgasm she had would be intensified. This is a bit harder to gauge because with oral orgasms I’m in a more advantageous position to gauge however here’s my best crack at gauging the orgasms intensity by position:

Missionary
  • She’s definitely a bit more loud and expressive. This has been a universal improvement across the board.

Sideline
  • I tried this only in two sessions with her along with OE but the second time I used it produced a much more intense orgasm (about 10/10) based on her body reaction

Her riding me
  • Easily one of her favorite positions based on her feedback. With OE playing and me doing some extracurricular stuff (nibbling on her breasts, talking dirty, sitting up to create an angle allowing me to hit her g spot, etc.) this bad boy is a straight up 10 or 11. Most of the time it’ll be so intense that she inadvertently pushes me out of her because her vagina pulsates and tightens so much.
  • For those curious, we discovered the right angle for her g spot BEFORE OE and while those orgasms were very good the ones she has now are consistently excellent. So I’d say going from an 8/10 or 9/10 to a solid 10.
Doggystyle/From the back
  • This is also one of her favorite positions and it’s also my personal favorite too just because my GF has nice “assets” and the visuals really turn me on. Plus she loves the sensations when I penetrate from behind and when I give oral from behind her as well. In addition, this is usually the position I finish from ( fyi I finish inside normally).
  • This one is very hard to judge because we both enjoy this position a lot however since OE usage I’ve definitely noticed an increase in vocality and she’s definitely had some really good orgasms from this position to the point that her body vibrates and her vagina tightens and pulsates. 9/10 to 10/10
Eating her out/ Performing oral on her 
  • This has been the area that I’ve shined at the most before OE and I was able to consistently get at least 2 orgasms from her during foreplay.
  • Nowadays, these same orgasms are much more intense (yesterday in particular she was going crazy and had some powerful orgasms that were stronger than any I’ve seen since we met)
  • Normally she’s on her back when I go down on her but I’ll mix things up and do it throughout love making and in different positions.
There’s more positions but these are the positions that we’ve been in enough to compare and contrast. They’re also a bit easier for me to judge. 

Relationship Post OE 5.75.3G

This relationship was already pretty good beforehand but I would like to reiterate what Shannon has said: good orgasms can make or break a relationship. Yes me and my girlfriend previously had great chemistry before sex but the sex and subsequent orgasms most certainly aided and accentuated the relationship. I remember reading once that a relationship is similar to a car. Emotional and physical (as in how attracted you are to each other physically) chemistry, communication styles, attitudes and beliefs (such as rule 4) make up the parts of the car. Love is the gasoline that fuels the car and sex (especially great sex) is the oil that helps make things run better in the engine.

Ways in which our relationship has improved includes
  • More affection (me and her)
  •  Stress relief (this is HUGE especially with finals week upon us both)
  • If she gets an attitude with something or someone she makes sure to not direct it at me
  • Little annoyances seem to slide off her back easier especially during the afterglow
  • More possessive of me (in a good way). To elaborate, she’s more prone to holding my arm in public and getting protective if she feels like someone is trying to give me a hard time
  • Positive outlook for the future - she’s brought up how much she looks forward to spending the rest of her life with me after school and this has intensified since OE.

Disclaimer:

I’ve said it before throughout this post but I will reiterate it here: I was capable of giving my GF orgasms' BEFORE introducing OE but OE has certainly improved things. I mention this because if you are not capable of giving women an orgasm on your own then I would work on that first because OE enhance orgasms (as its name implies) but that doesn’t necessarily mean its going to put them there if you aren’t able to generate them on your own. Does it help get you/her there? I would say yes but again, I strongly recommend you get your sex/love making skills up to par beforehand to improve your results.

Thanks for reading.

Thanks for sharing, glad that the sub made such a difference to you and your GF. However, way too much detail here IMO. Simply sharing the answer to asking yourself and her about the change in quality and intensity would actually do ;-)

Also, sex and the ability to orgasm are definitely important in a relationship, I agree. But then again, don't overestimate the impact of the quality of an orgasm on the whole relationship, haha. Especially if you think good orgasms will have the power to either make or break it. Believe me, there are so many areas besides sex you can f*** it up, so it's always wise to balance your mindfulness on all areas.

firsthelix, I think you're missing the point when you say "too much detail".  He is reporting.  These reports are how I know what is what, what needs work, what works well, what things do and don't do, and how to improve. There's no such thing as too much detail with reports like these.  Especially as this is the ONLY report on this program I've gotten so far.  

Thank you, K-Train. 

Also, @K-Train, the program is designed to make orgasm easier to achieve.  You may in fact be able to get a woman to orgasm with it where you haven't been able to before.  It is designed to help with that.
(12-08-2020, 06:25 AM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]@firsthelix please edit out my reply as well then. Thanks in advance.

Hey!  Wrong answer, bucko!  That was a beautiful piece of reporting.  Put it back.  You're doing a great job reporting, where nobody else is even trying to report.  That post was gold.

Reporters report.  We need more people doing that.
(12-07-2020, 09:17 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Just to confirm as I think you missed my previous post:

OF V2 will be 5.75.5G, correct?

Very excited for this, @Shannon! Should be amazing.

OF v2 is going to be 5.75.5G, yes.  Presuming I can get the required module to pass modeling.  It seemed to be doing just fine last I was working on it, but there's never a guarantee when the models are tracking changes to the playing field that I can't see, and things occasionally flip flop on me as a result.
(12-07-2020, 09:29 PM)fab10 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
Does “Improve Your Eyesight” include DRS?

It does.
@K-Train, how did OE work out for you?
Quote:Thanks for sharing, glad that the sub made such a difference to you and your GF. However, way too much detail here IMO. Simply sharing the answer to asking yourself and her about the change in quality and intensity would actually do ;-)

That makes no sense at all. It comes across as your own hangup or issue, not his.

K-Train please don't delete your post just because one person has some weird argument that makes no sense or is somehow 'offended'.
LTU Stage 5 links are available for people who purchased the full set.
(12-08-2020, 09:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-08-2020, 06:25 AM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]@firsthelix please edit out my reply as well then. Thanks in advance.

Hey!  Wrong answer, bucko!  That was a beautiful piece of reporting.  Put it back.  You're doing a great job reporting, where nobody else is even trying to report.  That post was gold.

Reporters report.  We need more people doing that.

Will be reporting soon on MIR3 for eye infection.
(12-08-2020, 04:36 PM)Omni3 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-08-2020, 09:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-08-2020, 06:25 AM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]@firsthelix please edit out my reply as well then. Thanks in advance.

Hey!  Wrong answer, bucko!  That was a beautiful piece of reporting.  Put it back.  You're doing a great job reporting, where nobody else is even trying to report.  That post was gold.

Reporters report.  We need more people doing that.

Will be reporting soon on MIR3 for eye infection.

Much appreciated.
Quote:Will be reporting soon on MIR3 for eye infection.
That’s a very tough one, even with a supercharged immune system, I am very much looking forward to your report.
Fingers crossed.
Thanks @Shannon and @Benjamin  for the encouragement. Always glad to contribute great reporting! And @fab10 : my orgasms are also better as well. Much more enjoyable and it's made the experience much more enjoyable. Damn it, I kinda wish this program had existed years ago man cause I would have cleaned up around college. Cool

Also @Shannon , if you're still shopping around for ideas for new products what about a subliminal for photographic memory? I remember in the 1990's you said you made that program for yourself to help with school and you got extremely high grades from it. Either that, or maybe a new version of Improve Your Grades and Study Habits.

Photographic Memory 5.75.4G would be a straightforward memory booster but of Improve Your Grades and Study Habits 5.75.4G (IYGS) here's some ideas
  • Improve motivation to study
  • Guide user's actions towards procuring the best possible grades
  • Fear removal if necessary
  • Attracting positive study partners and classmates for studying
Hi K-Train,

Photographic Memory sounds awesome, good idea. Also something like "see easier connections to other topics", a lot is connected or similar, so the earlier you see the connections the more easy it gets to remember or learn new stuff.

For IYGS I'd say add something more: Peak Performance Under Pressure, maybe that is even a stand alone program, or maybe that one is in "Laser Focus and Concentration".
(12-08-2020, 11:14 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks @Shannon and @Benjamin  for the encouragement. Always glad to contribute great reporting! And @fab10 : my orgasms are also better as well. Much more enjoyable and it's made the experience much more enjoyable. Damn it, I kinda wish this program had existed years ago man cause I would have cleaned up around college. Cool

Also @Shannon , if you're still shopping around for ideas for new products what about a subliminal for photographic memory? I remember in the 1990's you said you made that program for yourself to help with school and you got extremely high grades from it. Either that, or maybe a new version of Improve Your Grades and Study Habits.

Photographic Memory 5.75.4G would be a straightforward memory booster but of Improve Your Grades and Study Habits 5.75.4G (IYGS) here's some ideas
  • Improve motivation to study
  • Guide user's actions towards procuring the best possible grades
  • Fear removal if necessary
  • Attracting positive study partners and classmates for studying

Not a bad idea at all.  However, what I was seeking specifically was a subliminal that I could build quickly and correctly, that would sell well since everything went wrong last month, and I spent all my time building something that I discovered I could not release at the very last minute.  I only had a small amount of time to build.  I ended up making Improve Your Eyesight, which looks awesome to me (can't wait to be free to use it), but apparently wasn't exciting enough.  I might as well have just slept all month.

I have finished Stage 5, and now I am working on the module that will take 5.75.4G to 5.75.5G, if I can get it to work.  That will go into OF v2, and then I'll be either working on LTUv6 Stage 6, or Universal Healing, followed by the one that I didn't do as a second step.

But, I like your idea, and I have added it to my options list.
(12-09-2020, 06:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-08-2020, 11:14 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks @Shannon and @Benjamin  for the encouragement. Always glad to contribute great reporting! And @fab10 : my orgasms are also better as well. Much more enjoyable and it's made the experience much more enjoyable. Damn it, I kinda wish this program had existed years ago man cause I would have cleaned up around college. Cool

Also @Shannon , if you're still shopping around for ideas for new products what about a subliminal for photographic memory? I remember in the 1990's you said you made that program for yourself to help with school and you got extremely high grades from it. Either that, or maybe a new version of Improve Your Grades and Study Habits.

Photographic Memory 5.75.4G would be a straightforward memory booster but of Improve Your Grades and Study Habits 5.75.4G (IYGS) here's some ideas
  • Improve motivation to study
  • Guide user's actions towards procuring the best possible grades
  • Fear removal if necessary
  • Attracting positive study partners and classmates for studying

Not a bad idea at all.  However, what I was seeking specifically was a subliminal that I could build quickly and correctly, that would sell well since everything went wrong last month, and I spent all my time building something that I discovered I could not release at the very last minute.  I only had a small amount of time to build.  I ended up making Improve Your Eyesight, which looks awesome to me (can't wait to be free to use it), but apparently wasn't exciting enough.  I might as well have just slept all month.

I have finished Stage 5, and now I am working on the module that will take 5.75.4G to 5.75.5G, if I can get it to work.  That will go into OF v2, and then I'll be either working on LTUv6 Stage 6, or Universal Healing, followed by the one that I didn't do as a second step.

But, I like your idea, and I have added it to my options list.

For what it's worth...I liked the idea of the eyesight sub. I'd love to not have any form of vision correction anymore, that'd be a godsend. I hate how I look with glasses as some geeky nerd in my eyes and I'm positive in girl's eyes too, lmao. Even in Hollywood there's that stereotype about the glasses guy, lol. I think I look WAY better without them. I looked at lasik twice but was wary and passed. Contacts I have a toxic love/hate relationship with, haha. So this sub was very interesting to me and I checked it out as soon as it came out! Just giving you background on me...as I seem to be a part of the sub's market...

But...the sales page of the eyesight sub was pretty vague and seemed to boil down to "maybe possibly PERHAPS it can do SOMETHING...it's unknown". Wording like that made me hold off on it, and I'm sure others felt the same. Hard to justify the expense and huge 7 month time investment in a "maybe/possibly/perhaps" type of extremely situational sub. An extremely situational sub is really only worth it if it clearly delivers, since you can run something more general like an OF/E4 sub and gain benefit in that large block of listening time, in this case, 7 months.

So...I think that's the problem. I think if you got the sub into the hands of some people with clearly bad vision, and got them tangible improvements in it and had testimonials showing what it CAN do...you should see the sales increase a lot for it.

Also, I'm surprised you made this sub to be honest. I thought physical growth/healing subs were off the table for now due to what you've said about IYPS in the past. IYPS and a Grow Taller sub would both be AMAZING. Both instant buys for me, haha. Perhaps the tissue works differently, and hence this eye sub may work now, but the others wouldn't work now somehow?

Looking forward to the imminent birth of 5.75.5G, Shannon. And subsequent OF 5.75.5G! Big Grin
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