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Judging by the frequency and obviousness with which people are getting TID and how far back it seems to go (mine is 1.5 to 2 weeks, and I didn't even realize it until I released it), I'd say this new Platinum Lake build format is indeed significantly more powerful and effective.
It would be really good if we can get DMSI before the big guns (UMS and LTU) otherwise we will wait for a while since they are in stages....
(06-21-2020, 01:03 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]It would be really good if we can get DMSI before the big guns (UMS and LTU) otherwise we will wait for a while since they are in stages....

On the contrary, you want me to build at least one of the Big Guns before I build DMSI.  It would be really bad if I built DMSI first.  Thank the pandemic for that one.  Otherwise, I'd be agreeable.
(06-21-2020, 04:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 01:03 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]It would be really good if we can get DMSI before the big guns (UMS and LTU) otherwise we will wait for a while since they are in stages....

On the contrary, you want me to build at least one of the Big Guns before I build DMSI.  It would be really bad if I built DMSI first.  Thank the pandemic for that one.  Otherwise, I'd be agreeable.

Hi Shannon, in the quote above are you saying your building one of the other big 6 stage programs before you release dmsi?

Not all countries are as bad as america and many places are reopening and going back to normal as they have very few cases.

So it could be still quite a while before a new dmsi is out?
(06-21-2020, 04:46 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 01:03 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]It would be really good if we can get DMSI before the big guns (UMS and LTU) otherwise we will wait for a while since they are in stages....

On the contrary, you want me to build at least one of the Big Guns before I build DMSI.  It would be really bad if I built DMSI first.  Thank the pandemic for that one.  Otherwise, I'd be agreeable.

Hi Shannon, in the quote above are you saying your building one of the other big 6 stage programs before you release dmsi?

Not all countries are as bad as america and many places are reopening and going back to normal as they have very few cases.

So it could be still quite a while before a new dmsi is out?

It doesn't matter what places are as bad as or better than or worse than America.  It matters how our customers have been affected.  If they've been affected in ways that cause our sales to drop through the floor, then we are affected negatively as well.  At that point, the focus is on getting sales back up.  Not making tech upgrades that we then primarily give away after spending a month doing it.

So yes, I will be building at least one of the big guns before I build DMSI.  There is no business owner on earth who, in my situation, would do otherwise.
(06-21-2020, 04:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:46 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 01:03 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]It would be really good if we can get DMSI before the big guns (UMS and LTU) otherwise we will wait for a while since they are in stages....

On the contrary, you want me to build at least one of the Big Guns before I build DMSI.  It would be really bad if I built DMSI first.  Thank the pandemic for that one.  Otherwise, I'd be agreeable.

Hi Shannon, in the quote above are you saying your building one of the other big 6 stage programs before you release dmsi?

Not all countries are as bad as america and many places are reopening and going back to normal as they have very few cases.

So it could be still quite a while before a new dmsi is out?

It doesn't matter what places are as bad as or better than or worse than America.  It matters how our customers have been affected.  If they've been affected in ways that cause our sales to drop through the floor, then we are affected negatively as well.  At that point, the focus is on getting sales back up.  Not making tech upgrades that we then primarily give away after spending a month doing it.

So yes, I will be building at least one of the big guns before I build DMSI.  There is no business owner on earth who, in my situation, would do otherwise.

I hope frm 4.9 works as well as we all are hoping, as you know i tried 5 programs so far and unfortunately didnt see any results from any of the programs.

I would really like to buy your future products as i believe they will make a huge difference for many people, just hope frm can get past whatever is stopping some of us from seeing results from all the previous programs we have tried.

Clearly i believe in your products as i wouldnt of handed over that much money program after program when wasnt seeing results previously so im looking forward to seeing the results frm will be able to deal with.
Imagine Shannon builds DMSI before the 6-stagers, everybody is happy... until Shannon finds something to improve during building one of the 6-stagers. Then everybody is like "can you make an update?"
(06-21-2020, 05:07 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:46 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 01:03 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]It would be really good if we can get DMSI before the big guns (UMS and LTU) otherwise we will wait for a while since they are in stages....

On the contrary, you want me to build at least one of the Big Guns before I build DMSI.  It would be really bad if I built DMSI first.  Thank the pandemic for that one.  Otherwise, I'd be agreeable.

Hi Shannon, in the quote above are you saying your building one of the other big 6 stage programs before you release dmsi?

Not all countries are as bad as america and many places are reopening and going back to normal as they have very few cases.

So it could be still quite a while before a new dmsi is out?

It doesn't matter what places are as bad as or better than or worse than America.  It matters how our customers have been affected.  If they've been affected in ways that cause our sales to drop through the floor, then we are affected negatively as well.  At that point, the focus is on getting sales back up.  Not making tech upgrades that we then primarily give away after spending a month doing it.

So yes, I will be building at least one of the big guns before I build DMSI.  There is no business owner on earth who, in my situation, would do otherwise.

I hope frm 4.9 works as well as we all are hoping, as you know i tried 5 programs so far and unfortunately didnt see any results from any of the programs.

I would really like to buy your future products as i believe they will make a huge difference for many people, just hope frm can get past whatever is stopping some of us from seeing results from all the previous programs we have tried.

Clearly i believe in your products as i wouldnt of handed over that much money program after program when wasnt seeing results previously so im looking forward to seeing the results frm will be able to deal with.

I appreciate that you believe in my products, but realistically, we haven't determined what is the reason for your lack of results so far.  If it's fear, FRM 4.9 will help.  If you're simply unable to hear the program sufficiently, as I still suspect is the case, then you would not be helped no matter how good my programs become from upgrades unless and until we can find some way for you to hear the program.
(06-21-2020, 05:37 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 05:07 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:46 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]On the contrary, you want me to build at least one of the Big Guns before I build DMSI.  It would be really bad if I built DMSI first.  Thank the pandemic for that one.  Otherwise, I'd be agreeable.

Hi Shannon, in the quote above are you saying your building one of the other big 6 stage programs before you release dmsi?

Not all countries are as bad as america and many places are reopening and going back to normal as they have very few cases.

So it could be still quite a while before a new dmsi is out?

It doesn't matter what places are as bad as or better than or worse than America.  It matters how our customers have been affected.  If they've been affected in ways that cause our sales to drop through the floor, then we are affected negatively as well.  At that point, the focus is on getting sales back up.  Not making tech upgrades that we then primarily give away after spending a month doing it.

So yes, I will be building at least one of the big guns before I build DMSI.  There is no business owner on earth who, in my situation, would do otherwise.

I hope frm 4.9 works as well as we all are hoping, as you know i tried 5 programs so far and unfortunately didnt see any results from any of the programs.

I would really like to buy your future products as i believe they will make a huge difference for many people, just hope frm can get past whatever is stopping some of us from seeing results from all the previous programs we have tried.

Clearly i believe in your products as i wouldnt of handed over that much money program after program when wasnt seeing results previously so im looking forward to seeing the results frm will be able to deal with.

I appreciate that you believe in my products, but realistically, we haven't determined what is the reason for your lack of results so far.  If it's fear, FRM 4.9 will help.  If you're simply unable to hear the program sufficiently, as I still suspect is the case, then you would not be helped no matter how good my programs become from upgrades unless and until we can find some way for you to hear the program.

I am only partly deaf, i can still hear without hearing aids, and ultrasonic which you cant physically hear should be able to work?

Also your products do make me sleepy when i first used them so i thought that was agreed it must be working at some level to create those affects?

Will keep trying with your programs and hopefully we will make some progress. Got to remain hopeful.
(06-21-2020, 05:43 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 05:37 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 05:07 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:46 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, in the quote above are you saying your building one of the other big 6 stage programs before you release dmsi?

Not all countries are as bad as america and many places are reopening and going back to normal as they have very few cases.

So it could be still quite a while before a new dmsi is out?

It doesn't matter what places are as bad as or better than or worse than America.  It matters how our customers have been affected.  If they've been affected in ways that cause our sales to drop through the floor, then we are affected negatively as well.  At that point, the focus is on getting sales back up.  Not making tech upgrades that we then primarily give away after spending a month doing it.

So yes, I will be building at least one of the big guns before I build DMSI.  There is no business owner on earth who, in my situation, would do otherwise.

I hope frm 4.9 works as well as we all are hoping, as you know i tried 5 programs so far and unfortunately didnt see any results from any of the programs.

I would really like to buy your future products as i believe they will make a huge difference for many people, just hope frm can get past whatever is stopping some of us from seeing results from all the previous programs we have tried.

Clearly i believe in your products as i wouldnt of handed over that much money program after program when wasnt seeing results previously so im looking forward to seeing the results frm will be able to deal with.

I appreciate that you believe in my products, but realistically, we haven't determined what is the reason for your lack of results so far.  If it's fear, FRM 4.9 will help.  If you're simply unable to hear the program sufficiently, as I still suspect is the case, then you would not be helped no matter how good my programs become from upgrades unless and until we can find some way for you to hear the program.

I am only partly deaf, i can still hear without hearing aids, and ultrasonic which you cant physically hear should be able to work?

Also your products do make me sleepy when i first used them so i thought that was agreed it must be working at some level to create those affects?

Will keep trying with your programs and hopefully we will make some progress. Got to remain hopeful.

Partially deaf still leaves open the possibility for deafness to ultrasonics, and severely degraded masked subliminals.  Deafness isn't a simple thing, and neither are the potential effects on subliminals.  It's entirely possible that your situation results in a much lower volume of input than someone else would get, which may make it easy to resist where it wouldn't be otherwise.  It may also be reducing the comprehension of your subconscious to what's being said, again creating issues.  Your response of tiredness could be a lot of energy being used as your subconscious tries to comprehend what's being said, without much success.  There are a lot of possibilities, and we don't know for sure what's going on yet.

I don't want you spending money on my programs if they're not working for you, but at the same time, I understand you want to benefit from them.  I suggest that if you want to keep trying them, get yourself a copy of OF 5.75G and give that a run according to the instructions.  If that doesn't work, wait until 6G is finished before trying again.

If it does work, then you're likely to end up overcoming whatever resistance has been holding you in place.  But I prefer you not spend money without getting what you paid for.
(06-20-2020, 11:37 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-20-2020, 11:13 AM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]Could OF be so important that it might be integrated in the 6G skeleton script?

If we integrated OF into the skeleton script, it would distract from the goals of the program, unless the goals of the program were to overcome all fears.  That's why we use FRM instead - which is, in fact, part of the skeleton script.  FRM deals only with those fears standing in the way of achieving the goals of the program in which it is found.

Quote:How about those using older programs? Should they consider running a bit OF before the using the older programs to improve the program effectiveness. I'm completing BASE and I'm planning to do a AM6 stage 7 refresher + WM2.

It is possible to use OF to improve the effectiveness of all other subliminals.  


Quote:If the answer is yes for the last question, what would be the recommended OF usage pattern?

thx,

Follow the instructions.

I went to see the instructions and I'm fearing the commitment ;-)

It is an even bigger commitment than a 6 stages program commitment!

I'll need to think about it in the next 3 weeks which is the remaining period to complete BASE.

On one hand, doing OF would push back by 2/3 of year using the programs that are in my pipe (WM2, DMSI, UMS).

OTOH, I'm conscious that I have fears lurking that are stopping me to do stuff. Writing my journals did show that plus possibly all the fears that I'm not aware of. This is a source of procrastination. I wouldn't qualify those fears as poisonous and paralyzing big fears but they are strong enough to hold me back.

There is a chance that addressing those fears directly and freeing myself from them could have a much bigger life changing effect than only pursuing specific goals with targeted programs.

Idk if that would be possible but I wonder if removing current unconscious fears would unlock the full potential of all the already installed programs.

It is not an easy choice but one that I'll seriously consider in the next 2-3 weeks...

Here is one last question about OF. In the next 8 months. Do you think this program could receive updates if down the road you discovers ways to improve it further and could its users upgrade without having to 'reset' the required 8 months period requirement or having to pause to avoid the turbulence period that 5.5+G programs transition are causing?

I know that this is a highly hypothetical question but I'm trying gauge the result certainty and IML commitment to make the program deliver the promised result in case I choose to invest in it time wise since it is brand new program...
(06-21-2020, 06:16 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 05:43 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 05:37 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 05:07 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 04:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It doesn't matter what places are as bad as or better than or worse than America.  It matters how our customers have been affected.  If they've been affected in ways that cause our sales to drop through the floor, then we are affected negatively as well.  At that point, the focus is on getting sales back up.  Not making tech upgrades that we then primarily give away after spending a month doing it.

So yes, I will be building at least one of the big guns before I build DMSI.  There is no business owner on earth who, in my situation, would do otherwise.

I hope frm 4.9 works as well as we all are hoping, as you know i tried 5 programs so far and unfortunately didnt see any results from any of the programs.

I would really like to buy your future products as i believe they will make a huge difference for many people, just hope frm can get past whatever is stopping some of us from seeing results from all the previous programs we have tried.

Clearly i believe in your products as i wouldnt of handed over that much money program after program when wasnt seeing results previously so im looking forward to seeing the results frm will be able to deal with.

I appreciate that you believe in my products, but realistically, we haven't determined what is the reason for your lack of results so far.  If it's fear, FRM 4.9 will help.  If you're simply unable to hear the program sufficiently, as I still suspect is the case, then you would not be helped no matter how good my programs become from upgrades unless and until we can find some way for you to hear the program.

I am only partly deaf, i can still hear without hearing aids, and ultrasonic which you cant physically hear should be able to work?

Also your products do make me sleepy when i first used them so i thought that was agreed it must be working at some level to create those affects?

Will keep trying with your programs and hopefully we will make some progress. Got to remain hopeful.

Partially deaf still leaves open the possibility for deafness to ultrasonics, and severely degraded masked subliminals.  Deafness isn't a simple thing, and neither are the potential effects on subliminals.  It's entirely possible that your situation results in a much lower volume of input than someone else would get, which may make it easy to resist where it wouldn't be otherwise.  It may also be reducing the comprehension of your subconscious to what's being said, again creating issues.  Your response of tiredness could be a lot of energy being used as your subconscious tries to comprehend what's being said, without much success.  There are a lot of possibilities, and we don't know for sure what's going on yet.

I don't want you spending money on my programs if they're not working for you, but at the same time, I understand you want to benefit from them.  I suggest that if you want to keep trying them, get yourself a copy of OF 5.75G and give that a run according to the instructions.  If that doesn't work, wait until 6G is finished before trying again.

If it does work, then you're likely to end up overcoming whatever resistance has been holding you in place.  But I prefer you not spend money without getting what you paid for.

Hi Shannon, i might wait till 4.9 is in dmsi to see how it goes with the new frm and if its able to help make progress for me.

Also i am considering these hearing aids called lyric invisible hearing aids by phonak, these are meant to be clear natural sound instead of amplifying the sounds from the hearing aids because the little device goes right into the ear canal. We are also able to use headphones earbuds aswell with them as once they are placed in the ears they dont get removed for 6-8 weeks.

Just will post below a paragraph on what it says it can do.

While traditional hearing aids capture and process sound outside of the ear, Lyric uses the natural anatomy of the ear to amplify and give you a full, natural listening experience.

Because Lyric is placed in the ear canal near the eardrum by a trained professional, it is a 100% invisible hearing aid.

I realise this is not an area you may be fully aware on but could this device that is used to create natural hearing might help make your subliminals work for me as it will be like natural sound like others can hear.
I don't know, but I genuinely hope we can find some way to make these programs succeed for you!
(06-21-2020, 04:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2020, 01:03 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]It would be really good if we can get DMSI before the big guns (UMS and LTU) otherwise we will wait for a while since they are in stages....

On the contrary, you want me to build at least one of the Big Guns before I build DMSI.  It would be really bad if I built DMSI first.  Thank the pandemic for that one.  Otherwise, I'd be agreeable.

This is always the case even before pandemic, anyways I really hope it's the UMS2 that is being worked next. I can see many people getting it. Heck I would get it. 

It just I wanted to test the new tech on dmsi. 

On the other hand I think I am already experiencing TDI. (note I'm also running the current DMSI, but I feel it's tdi from the new one, here is why) 

I have known this girl for longest while and she always didn't want to do anything because of her religion beliefs. She doesn't want to even kiss because she feels it's wrong. She feels I must be her husband or her bf otherwise it's just wrong. So she feels I would judge her for even thinking about it. But the couple past days she was so open, we kissed alot and she even gave me a hand job in public! This was so out of place that when I went back home, she sent a text message apologzing saying she doesnt know why she did it. But she really enjoyed it. It seems like her fears are being dealt with for the first time. 


Anyways this was interesting to report. There are many other stuff happening but I like to report some real external stuff
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