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(03-19-2021, 04:20 PM)Aventus45 Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting program, Would love to see it in action because it feels like a parallel to how the original DMSI concept was and AOS. If this works well, then we can certainly see a marked improvement in the next DMSI in terms of aura projection.

I presume you are referring to the newly released Aura of Love.  I built that program partly because it was going to allow me to develop and improve the aura generator in DMSI-Next, and also allow me to determine more options for what it should be doing to achieve the goal.

If what I have been experiencing for a couple weeks indeed is the TID I suspect it to be - from a program I haven't even built yet - then I suspect the next DMSI will have an improved auric impact.
Hi @Shannon,

A few questions regarding the new Aura of Love sub:

First of all - excellent idea for a sub  Thumbsup Heart  . I have been hoping to see you produce something like this for some time now (I was thinking in the direction of "maximize your love", but this is great too).

Beyond the outward effects - how will it affect the user in terms of their capacity or ability to love? 

Does it directly attempt to increase the capability?

Is the sub mainly geared towards the external effect or does it also work inwardly?
(03-19-2021, 05:29 PM)TheGreatAttractor Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon,

A few questions regarding the new Aura of Love sub:

First of all - excellent idea for a sub  Thumbsup Heart  . I have been hoping to see you produce something like this for some time now (I was thinking in the direction of "maximize your love", but this is great too).

Beyond the outward effects - how will it affect the user in terms of their capacity or ability to love? 

Does it directly attempt to increase the capability?

Is the sub mainly geared towards the external effect or does it also work inwardly?



 Excellent question,guy,gosh!! I'd love to see what Shannon has to say about all of this.... I hope, I want for it to work internally,as well as the outward effects.
 Congrats on a job & creation well done ,Shannon. Looks like Mickey Mantel,knocked it outta da park,once again!!
( for those who dont know,google "Mickey Mantle" ,Ha! :-)
 This program is sooo right on time,in face I hope that some of it will be included in UMSv2 !!
 
 Shannon  the moment I read this " 1 (One) loop per day, every day.  No days off.",I instantly thought,  I wanna do 2 loops  in the sea of love. Ha! Love it Love it, Love it!! I however will start out with the  1 loop( 2 hours)
 This is gonna be a deep on fer shure. 
The fear remover, I take it this  thang is gonna dig deep , to remove/dissolve any  Love blockage's and Impedments?
 Thanks Shannon.
@Shannon

Congratulations on the release of Aura of Love. This is very appealing.
(03-19-2021, 05:29 PM)TheGreatAttractor Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon,

A few questions regarding the new Aura of Love sub:

First of all - excellent idea for a sub  Thumbsup Heart  . I have been hoping to see you produce something like this for some time now (I was thinking in the direction of "maximize your love", but this is great too).

Beyond the outward effects - how will it affect the user in terms of their capacity or ability to love? 

Does it directly attempt to increase the capability?

Is the sub mainly geared towards the external effect or does it also work inwardly?

The idea for this sub was originally not mine.  It came from ncbeareatingman originally asking for it years ago, and then a conversation I had not too long ago piqued my interest in creating it as an experimental.  But the models didn't think it was experimental, they thought it was prime time awesomeness.  So I went along with that.  I can't claim the credit for the idea, but the script and build are all mine.

To answer your questions...

Quote:Beyond the outward effects - how will it affect the user in terms of their capacity or ability to love? 

That will depend largely on the person using it.  If the person is open to it, the program will tend to expand it.

Quote:Does it directly attempt to increase the capability?

The program only works on generating an aura of love, and clearing away the fears that would inhibit that.  So the FRM will work to increase the ability to project an aura of love, but the program does not seek to increase or adjust your capacity for or ability to love directly.  That will be a sort of side effect if you are open enough to it.

Quote:Is the sub mainly geared towards the external effect or does it also work inwardly?

It's primarily designed to generate an aura of love, and secondarily to enable you to do so.  The inward work will result from FRM and any effects being bathed in an aura of love has on the individual.
(03-19-2021, 05:52 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-19-2021, 05:29 PM)TheGreatAttractor Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon,

A few questions regarding the new Aura of Love sub:

First of all - excellent idea for a sub  Thumbsup Heart  . I have been hoping to see you produce something like this for some time now (I was thinking in the direction of "maximize your love", but this is great too).

Beyond the outward effects - how will it affect the user in terms of their capacity or ability to love? 

Does it directly attempt to increase the capability?

Is the sub mainly geared towards the external effect or does it also work inwardly?



 Excellent question,guy,gosh!! I'd love to see what Shannon has to say about all of this.... I hope, I want for it to work internally,as well as the outward effects.
 Congrats on a job & creation well done ,Shannon. Looks like Mickey Mantel,knocked it outta da park,once again!!
( for those who dont know,google "Mickey Mantle" ,Ha! :-)
 This program is sooo right on time,in face I hope that some of it will be included in UMSv2 !!
 
 Shannon  the moment I read this " 1 (One) loop per day, every day.  No days off.",I instantly thought,  I wanna do 2 loops  in the sea of love. Ha! Love it Love it, Love it!! I however will start out with the  1 loop( 2 hours)
 This is gonna be a deep on fer shure. 
The fear remover, I take it this  thang is gonna dig deep , to remove/dissolve any  Love blockage's and Impedments?
 Thanks Shannon.

Congratulations, Keith, you have been getting TID from this program so strongly that you were able to actually identify what it does multiple times before I announced what it was designed to do.  I was quite impressed by that.

As for two loops... this is 5.75.7G.  It is four significant upgrades and improvements over 5.75.6G.  I suggest you see why the models chose the one loop a day before you go changing it.  Wink

FRM will do what is necessary to achieve the program's goal, but in general, it won't be super necessary for most people.
I Just literally ordered it ,JUST NOW!! You-who!! and Yahoo,too !! Ha!! 3/19/21
wanna be dancing in the moon light, and bathin' in a SEA of LOVE..... Ha. ha. Im tired as sheet.tonight,but inspried. & can hardly wait to run this program Aura of Love !! YES!!

I've 3 more days of USLMv4. Monday's my last day on it for now.....MY day off is Tuesday.
So the question is Shannon ,do I Need to wait longer than one day off of USLM v4,before firing an arrow in the Tushy of Love...ha ha...LMAO. Oh shit.. ha. before I begin the Aura of Love???
It wouldnt surprise me one bit if this loving program,as some healing aspects to it as well...along the way. LOVE after all is the great healer....
Love has brought people back from the brink.... I swear, Many times.

When I was 32 years of age, I Looked like Frankenstein,Man... I was grey gaunt and dying,this dimension was killing me to be here. It was horrible. did not have any dis-ease ( the lack of EASE!) My heart was broken,torn,hurt and literally just being here, on this planet, was killing me to be in this dimension. MY whole system was breaking down ,I had no energy, MY life motavators were damn near dead and life force energy was draining rapidly. So very many heart breaking heavy things had happened in a 3 year span and they all added up to incredible amounts of devistation in my life.
One afternoon I went out to the court yard garden,of some friends I was temporarily staying with alone and....

I had a deep heart felt conversation ,a kind of show down with the life force energy of the universa,universal l energy that pulsates thru everything......after this deep delving .....3 or 4 days later... I was at a friend of a friends house.... and I found a brochure of a healer....that I recognized,but had never met in this life time......determined,I'd go see her,get some deep clearing and that was that,that was the way it was going to be...for my very LIFE and fore my very life depended on it.
It indeed did happen a few days later...
I got the clearing,the healing begin and within the week of that deep conversation with Life Force energies,source energies...I connected and then was connected again to Life.
The clearings, opened up enough space for the Light to come in and the Love,enough Love could some in and I could begin to heal,recover and regain Life agian,slowly.
The colour came back into my face, my cheeks and complextion regain some of its rosey-ness and my eyes had the light back in them ect. MY Life has never been the same....
That day MY destiny line and therefore Life changed,like never before...
I still work with this very advanced teacher.
SO hell YES,Love can bring a soul back to Life,even if on the brink!! The whole thing was connected thru and because of Love.....and thats no Bull !!
Aura of Love here I come....yee Haw!!

PS: gotta come up with a cleaver or at least interesting Journal title between now and next week.
(03-19-2021, 06:18 PM)NOMAD Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

Congratulations on the release of Aura of Love. This is very appealing.

Thank you.  When the models first indicated that this was the title to build, I thought, "I must be too tired to focus.  Nobody would want that." A couple days of modeling later, I was convinced to build it, and a couple days of work after that I started to realize why it was being supported by the models so prominently.  I wish I could run it!
Well that was an unexpected release, you really got one over on me. I'd love to run it, if I had the leisure to. Pleasantly surprised by this one out of left field.
Hi Shannon,
congratulations to that surprising release! This one I didn't see coming but I am very curious about the effects and changes. On the one side I was about to order it right away on the other hand I want to see some experiences of other users first to get a picture of what it is capable to do.
Nice one Shannon. Being bathed in love would undoubtedly diminish unchecked neuroticism as well. I'd have been very interested if it wasn't for MLS
(03-19-2021, 04:37 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-19-2021, 02:45 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, can you help please?

Ive finished my second cycle of MLS. Im using MLS to improve my day trading. Day trading can be frustrating especially when there is no progress and you dont seem to be learning anything which was/is my situation - hence why i purchased MLS.

However frustrating my experience has been, the last 2 weeks my anger has entered another level. I am the hulk right now, I could quite easily smash everything in my apartment. Of course, ive never had such extreme anger / frustration. I am a little hot tempered then the average person, but definitely not the violent breaking kind - i dont think ive even broken anything.

I do know that learning and frustration and anger are polar opposites, you cannot learn in such a state. therefore my question is, am i being a d!ckh$$d or is this some kind of resistance from MLS?

If I am being a d!ckh$$d, ill find a way to solve it.
But if it is MLS resistance, how can i deal with it? Listen everyday for example? Force this sh!t out.

Thanks Shannon.

ps. fyi a small report I dont feel any other resistance. Im not eating more like others have reported. Im not tired, ive used other programs where i needed to go to sleep every day in the afternoon. Not feeling that w MLS. First cycle i was super motivated, second cycle motivation was/is stabilised. Small pockets of happy moments. General depression associated with my trading seems to be reduced compared to 2 weeks although, not entirely sure if that MLS related or just dumb luck.

What you're experiencing is almost certainly resistance.  When you get an anger response, you will usually (but not always) be getting that response because you are pushing too hard.  Sometimes, you are pushing to accomplish something that is centrally against one of your most primal fears, and it is forcing that fear to be dealt with and triggering massive resistance because of that fear.  

If it is the former case (pushing too hard), then you want to lower perceptory pressure.  If it is the latter case (pushing to overcome a central fear, but without enough force to overcome resistance), then you want to increase perceptory pressure.

Can you tell which case it is?  Is your subconscious getting mad because you're being too aggressive in the way the goal is being approached? (Former case) Or perhaps because it is convinced that the goal is "impossible to achieve", or requires facing one or more of your deepest fears? (latter case)

Shannon thanks, your explanation is excellent.


It’s without a doubt I believe this achievement to be impossible, day trading is the hardest thing I’ve done in my life. Dont get me wrong I do push myself (but ive always been like this, ive also never found anything hard or particularly challenging) but the later case is more rampant, i am thinking this is just not possible to learn to become a trader to get it right, to win, its IMPOSSIBLE. (I trade with my best friends and ive seen their bank accounts everyday so i know its in reality possible - lucky me)

I used to be a phenomenal learner but slowly this skill dissolved with age to zero atm, what took someone minutes would take me seconds, i was able to put stuff together like a puzzle - i called it a system solver. I know it’s in there, that’s what makes this trading experience frustrating and something i cannot accept.

After reading your post I decided to listen to MLS to force it last night after 2 nights break, I felt great about an hour into my listening, motivation over the moon all roses. Now ive woken up again and I'm ready to give up trading and throw this computer out the window. I am fuming. The anger is incredible.

Shall I try force feeding MLS listen everyday for 1 or 2 weeks and see how it feels? Listen more than 6 loops?
Otherwise, what is your suggestion? 
I can’t take this sh!t anymore i want to give up. But I can’t, I must win.

ps side note.. more info for you.. it’s early to say for sure, but my photographic memory, has made some appearances in the last 2 weeks. It’s been missing for a long time, forgot I had it. Last night when i realised my "powers" were back (while listening to MLS actually) i started using it and i could visual colors and everything, it put a smile on my face, forgot i had this skill. Also, this morning my chosen second language which i speak fluently but like a foreigner due to laziness and i just never was able to learn it due to frustration and also thinking its impossible, or its too much (see the pattern here?) - this is really when i gave up on learning i think, i sms'd in perfect sentence structure - i havent done this in years either. It was auto pilot. So some slight eamples already of tangible results, i wonder if this is only level 5% what will happen at 100.
(03-20-2021, 03:23 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-19-2021, 04:37 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-19-2021, 02:45 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, can you help please?

Ive finished my second cycle of MLS. Im using MLS to improve my day trading. Day trading can be frustrating especially when there is no progress and you dont seem to be learning anything which was/is my situation - hence why i purchased MLS.

However frustrating my experience has been, the last 2 weeks my anger has entered another level. I am the hulk right now, I could quite easily smash everything in my apartment. Of course, ive never had such extreme anger / frustration. I am a little hot tempered then the average person, but definitely not the violent breaking kind - i dont think ive even broken anything.

I do know that learning and frustration and anger are polar opposites, you cannot learn in such a state. therefore my question is, am i being a d!ckh$$d or is this some kind of resistance from MLS?

If I am being a d!ckh$$d, ill find a way to solve it.
But if it is MLS resistance, how can i deal with it? Listen everyday for example? Force this sh!t out.

Thanks Shannon.

ps. fyi a small report I dont feel any other resistance. Im not eating more like others have reported. Im not tired, ive used other programs where i needed to go to sleep every day in the afternoon. Not feeling that w MLS. First cycle i was super motivated, second cycle motivation was/is stabilised. Small pockets of happy moments. General depression associated with my trading seems to be reduced compared to 2 weeks although, not entirely sure if that MLS related or just dumb luck.

What you're experiencing is almost certainly resistance.  When you get an anger response, you will usually (but not always) be getting that response because you are pushing too hard.  Sometimes, you are pushing to accomplish something that is centrally against one of your most primal fears, and it is forcing that fear to be dealt with and triggering massive resistance because of that fear.  

If it is the former case (pushing too hard), then you want to lower perceptory pressure.  If it is the latter case (pushing to overcome a central fear, but without enough force to overcome resistance), then you want to increase perceptory pressure.

Can you tell which case it is?  Is your subconscious getting mad because you're being too aggressive in the way the goal is being approached? (Former case) Or perhaps because it is convinced that the goal is "impossible to achieve", or requires facing one or more of your deepest fears? (latter case)

Shannon thanks, your explanation is excellent.


It’s without a doubt I believe this achievement to be impossible, day trading is the hardest thing I’ve done in my life. Dont get me wrong I do push myself (but ive always been like this, ive also never found anything hard or particularly challenging) but the later case is more rampant, i am thinking this is just not possible to learn to become a trader to get it right, to win, its IMPOSSIBLE. (I trade with my best friends and ive seen their bank accounts everyday so i know its in reality possible - lucky me)

I used to be a phenomenal learner but slowly this skill dissolved with age to zero atm, what took someone minutes would take me seconds, i was able to put stuff together like a puzzle - i called it a system solver. I know it’s in there, that’s what makes this trading experience frustrating and something i cannot accept.

After reading your post I decided to listen to MLS to force it last night after 2 nights break, I felt great about an hour into my listening, motivation over the moon all roses. Now ive woken up again and I'm ready to give up trading and throw this computer out the window. I am fuming. The anger is incredible.

Shall I try force feeding MLS listen everyday for 1 or 2 weeks and see how it feels? Listen more than 6 loops?
Otherwise, what is your suggestion? 
I can’t take this sh!t anymore i want to give up. But I can’t, I must win.

ps side note.. more info for you.. it’s early to say for sure, but my photographic memory, has made some appearances in the last 2 weeks. It’s been missing for a long time, forgot I had it. Last night when i realised my "powers" were back (while listening to MLS actually) i started using it and i could visual colors and everything, it put a smile on my face, forgot i had this skill. Also, this morning my chosen second language which i speak fluently but like a foreigner due to laziness and i just never was able to learn it due to frustration and also thinking its impossible, or its too much (see the pattern here?) - this is really when i gave up on learning i think, i sms'd in perfect sentence structure - i havent done this in years either. It was auto pilot. So some slight eamples already of tangible results, i wonder if this is only level 5% what will happen at 100.

It would seem clear by what you've said that there is some part of you that is getting very sngry because this program is pushing it to do something it really, REALLY doesn't want to do.  In my experience, that usually indicates either that it perceives the situation as being life threatening if it does.  We know that this is of course ridiculous.  So what I would do is choose a variable - volume, days on, days off - and adjust it to increase perceptory pressure.  

What volume, days on and days off have you been using?  Let's see which one is best to adjust.
Out of curiousity of how Aura of Love works.

Say you are with your wife (romantic love) in a business setting or around friends, does the romantic love become less and the aura switches over to platonic love or something like that? Or does the wife still feel and interprete the aura as romantic love?
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