Subliminal Talk

(07-06-2021, 10:09 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 09:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 08:59 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 08:27 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 05:37 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Hi mate, todays listening was my 10th day of 3 loops a day of OF3, or in another way, I'm 2.5 cycles in (2 off days remaining and 3rd cycle will be completed).

I wake up and its as if nothing was even played. I don't know if i am supposed to be feeling anything at all to reflect that ive been listening and that its working and this I think is making me impatient and adding to my doubts of execution/stonewalling further.

Shall I increase the intensity and if so how do you suggest and if not why not please?

Today was my 49th day in total so far and this doubt is more on my mind today than any other day. Im seeking signs im executing or that having played the sub gives me some indication but im yet unusure.

Some have said to me that sometimes its too subtle and only over time will it become apparent once the changes are observed; is that the case with this sub as I dont want to reach 180 days only then to assess whats worked and hasn't. I am giving as much data in my journals as I can for you but I seem to get others saying im executing and then I get high off this and then fall again to wonder am i when theres no clear indication for me.

thank you

Jake, go through the list of resistance tactics and see if you can identify which one or ones you're exhibiting.

@Shannon thanks bro! As my reply above this to @callie I did wonder if it is resistance but not sure even though its sure indicators it is. 

ill continue as I am going then. Is resistance a sign im executing or close to it and not stonewalling etc? - just asking for some reassurance I think. Thank you.

Logically, resistance is a response to a stimulus, is it not?  And why would there be a response, never mind a resistance response, if something were not happening to respond to and resist?

Don't just blow this off.  Go through the list of forms of resistance and identify the one or ones you are exhibiting and then tell me what you found.

Already spoon fed to him long ago... https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Jake-...#pid245323

Sometimes I wonder if it's a form of trolling or something, lol.

"Spoon fed him" lol

"trolling or something" Come on man behave. lol

(07-06-2021, 11:35 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Jake have you thought about following the instructions 100% and just set and forget?

It will help alot. In my run of UMSv2 stage one, I asked shannon what will stage 1 do, like what type of results I should be looking for, he said to not look for anything and just let the sub do its thing. Few days later the sub started to show me clear execution.

You really don't have to constantly looking if the sub is working or if you need to adjust something or tweak this and that. Just run the sub based on instructions and let it be. Really it's that simple. Focus on your life, don't focus on looking for things related to the sub.

Earlier you reported experiencing relaxed and good feelings that's good. Just let the sub do its thing. You can't be trying to adjust things every day.

I think you are a perfectionist, while I'm one too, but sometimes we don't have to perfect things that clearly don't need our perfection. Soy best 2 cent will be as I'm sure many others suggested as well, is to you the subliminal based on instruction and just let it do its thing,

I hope this doesn't sound bad to you, I really just want you to focus on other things and surely you will wake up to amazing results.

Hey bro thanks again. 

Yeh I had but then I read the journals and see that im on day 49 and it well today in particular got to me no idea why. Ive tried to let it just be a case of play and forget but as im also trying to give whatever info I can daily in the hope its data as well as show a trend to me then its hard to forget. Im desperate almost to see something as a chink in the wall that has prevented me from executing all these years. 

ok based on your first paragraph, maybe its then better if I dont update my journal and seek signs its working on a daily basis? but then someone like me may need to journal daily to have that hope, im unsure. 

ok so then if you just play and forget when do you update your journal and what are the times/reasons you decide to do that?

Yeah relaxed good feelings as in I played the sub and felt like I wasnt playing anything and thats continued to the point I wondered wait am i stonewalling once again. I thought maybe getting a headache or something would indicate that yeah the sub is working and fighting some BS in my head but im literally getting nothing lol

Yes im definately a perfectionist you're right I think I am too. 

No no doesnt sound bad at all and to be honest im thick skinned as this is virtual lol all advice and suggestions I respect and take on board as I want this to work. I think I could be the toughest Son of a Gun when it comes to these subs lol

Ok thank you Samba, if you can get back to my queries above and based on what Shannon advises too ill go forward with that. Todays just been 1 of those odd days where ive thought well ok if ive hit a road block and @Shannon did tell all to increase intensity when you feel like it then shouldnt I increase this bad boy a little more and see if I can crack on even more, know what I mean?

(07-06-2021, 12:36 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 09:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 08:59 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 08:27 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 05:37 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Hi mate, todays listening was my 10th day of 3 loops a day of OF3, or in another way, I'm 2.5 cycles in (2 off days remaining and 3rd cycle will be completed).

I wake up and its as if nothing was even played. I don't know if i am supposed to be feeling anything at all to reflect that ive been listening and that its working and this I think is making me impatient and adding to my doubts of execution/stonewalling further.

Shall I increase the intensity and if so how do you suggest and if not why not please?

Today was my 49th day in total so far and this doubt is more on my mind today than any other day. Im seeking signs im executing or that having played the sub gives me some indication but im yet unusure.

Some have said to me that sometimes its too subtle and only over time will it become apparent once the changes are observed; is that the case with this sub as I dont want to reach 180 days only then to assess whats worked and hasn't. I am giving as much data in my journals as I can for you but I seem to get others saying im executing and then I get high off this and then fall again to wonder am i when theres no clear indication for me.

thank you

Jake, go through the list of resistance tactics and see if you can identify which one or ones you're exhibiting.

@Shannon thanks bro! As my reply above this to @callie I did wonder if it is resistance but not sure even though its sure indicators it is. 

ill continue as I am going then. Is resistance a sign im executing or close to it and not stonewalling etc? - just asking for some reassurance I think. Thank you.

Logically, resistance is a response to a stimulus, is it not?  And why would there be a response, never mind a resistance response, if something were not happening to respond to and resist?

Don't just blow this off.  Go through the list of forms of resistance and identify the one or ones you are exhibiting and then tell me what you found.

ok I have pen and paper ready to make any notes as I read through the resistance page mate. 

True I was just unsure if it is for sure resistance or not and if it is then does that mean im executing rather than stonewalling and thus would increasing the intensity be a better strategy knowing my history of stonewalling.

I think im fearing that I "maybe" stonewalling. I started the sub relaxed and chilled out and now since im unsure myself.  I think its the big fear of not finding that "sweetspot" that will help smash through my resistances. Im eager and willing to try more loops etc.

Anyway the types of resistance I think are me (please correct me if im wrong) and currently exhibiting are: 

Type 1 Stonewalling - well this has been me in the past based on your assessment. Right now am I stonewalling subconsciously I dont know for sure. Sure I get that if im showing resistance then im not stonewalling.

Possibly Type 2. I mean there have been times where during the 49 days ive wondered was that me executing or just my imagination. Nothing concrete has occured as yet for me to know or even daily or weekly in terms of effects for me to say ok there is a trend. Then I read journals by others on say hybrid and think wow they're so certain they're executing etc.

Type 3 I think did happen to me. some days ago it I think did happen. what ive now realised is once I update my journal with a post I forget what happened a day or days before. That could be due to my personality or my short term memory not fully consolidating due to my erratic sleep regime. 

So im upto type 13 so far in my reading and taking a pause to explain that I may be type 13. Im aware that my conscious thoughts are not 'will the sub work' (I believe it CAN work) but my thoughts are is it working YET, by now? If it is working and im not consciously seeing it fine but its not that the sub cant work but is it working yet or do I need to increase the intensity. I know you said that resistance would be to decrease the intensity but nothing in my mind has said do that but to increase it so that I CAN execute it quickly. I think reaching day 49 has scared me what if I reach day 60-180 and not fully executed or just executed a blip. This all is of course due to my years of history as you are aware so im just eager to execute this fully and quickly. 

Ive read them all and so far on this sub I cant see any other applying to me at this current stage.

The reason I had you go through the list is that I wanted to point out to you what is happening vs what you see.

In you, I see the following types of resistance:
3, 5, 13, 21 (which was modeled on you, by the way).  

If you were stonewalling, you would simply have no results at all to notice.  There would be no worries, no signs of execution, and nobody would be telling you that you are executing.  It would be as if you were not even using a subliminal.

Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

I suggest you do one of the following, depending on which appeals most:

If you prefer using ultrasonic or masked, then continue adding a loop per day on each ASRB2 cycle.  Since you seem to be our most fearful customer at the current time, simply continue adding loops until you manage to hit enough loops to either override the issue, or you run out of time to run them in a day.  I don't suggest more than 8 or 9 under any circumstances. If you get to that point and still have worries that it's not enough, start adding days on until you override those worries.

If you prefer using Hybrid, then start using 1 loop of hybrid and increase one loop per ASRB2 cycle until you achieve your goal or run out of time.  If you run out of time in a day to run them, then start adding days on each ASRB2 cycle.

This advice is for Jake ONLY.

How's UMVv2 stage 2 coming along?

(07-06-2021, 12:53 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 12:36 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 09:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 08:59 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 08:27 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Jake, go through the list of resistance tactics and see if you can identify which one or ones you're exhibiting.

@Shannon thanks bro! As my reply above this to @callie I did wonder if it is resistance but not sure even though its sure indicators it is. 

ill continue as I am going then. Is resistance a sign im executing or close to it and not stonewalling etc? - just asking for some reassurance I think. Thank you.

Logically, resistance is a response to a stimulus, is it not?  And why would there be a response, never mind a resistance response, if something were not happening to respond to and resist?

Don't just blow this off.  Go through the list of forms of resistance and identify the one or ones you are exhibiting and then tell me what you found.

ok I have pen and paper ready to make any notes as I read through the resistance page mate. 

True I was just unsure if it is for sure resistance or not and if it is then does that mean im executing rather than stonewalling and thus would increasing the intensity be a better strategy knowing my history of stonewalling.

I think im fearing that I "maybe" stonewalling. I started the sub relaxed and chilled out and now since im unsure myself.  I think its the big fear of not finding that "sweetspot" that will help smash through my resistances. Im eager and willing to try more loops etc.

Anyway the types of resistance I think are me (please correct me if im wrong) and currently exhibiting are: 

Type 1 Stonewalling - well this has been me in the past based on your assessment. Right now am I stonewalling subconsciously I dont know for sure. Sure I get that if im showing resistance then im not stonewalling.

Possibly Type 2. I mean there have been times where during the 49 days ive wondered was that me executing or just my imagination. Nothing concrete has occured as yet for me to know or even daily or weekly in terms of effects for me to say ok there is a trend. Then I read journals by others on say hybrid and think wow they're so certain they're executing etc.

Type 3 I think did happen to me. some days ago it I think did happen. what ive now realised is once I update my journal with a post I forget what happened a day or days before. That could be due to my personality or my short term memory not fully consolidating due to my erratic sleep regime. 

So im upto type 13 so far in my reading and taking a pause to explain that I may be type 13. Im aware that my conscious thoughts are not 'will the sub work' (I believe it CAN work) but my thoughts are is it working YET, by now? If it is working and im not consciously seeing it fine but its not that the sub cant work but is it working yet or do I need to increase the intensity. I know you said that resistance would be to decrease the intensity but nothing in my mind has said do that but to increase it so that I CAN execute it quickly. I think reaching day 49 has scared me what if I reach day 60-180 and not fully executed or just executed a blip. This all is of course due to my years of history as you are aware so im just eager to execute this fully and quickly. 

Ive read them all and so far on this sub I cant see any other applying to me at this current stage.

The reason I had you go through the list is that I wanted to point out to you what is happening vs what you see.

In you, I see the following types of resistance:
3, 5, 13, 21 (which was modeled on you, by the way).  

If you were stonewalling, you would simply have no results at all to notice.  There would be no worries, no signs of execution, and nobody would be telling you that you are executing.  It would be as if you were not even using a subliminal.

Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

I suggest you do one of the following, depending on which appeals most:

If you prefer using ultrasonic or masked, then continue adding a loop per day on each ASRB2 cycle.  Since you seem to be our most fearful customer at the current time, simply continue adding loops until you manage to hit enough loops to either override the issue, or you run out of time to run them in a day.  I don't suggest more than 8 or 9 under any circumstances. If you get to that point and still have worries that it's not enough, start adding days on until you override those worries.

If you prefer using Hybrid, then start using 1 loop of hybrid and increase one loop per ASRB2 cycle until you achieve your goal or run out of time.  If you run out of time in a day to run them, then start adding days on each ASRB2 cycle.

This advice is for Jake ONLY.

Wow and thank you. Im sorry to you and all for taking your time like this but it is coming from a sincere heart and I do appreciate you helping me out this way mate. 

You're the wizard here so I respect and take on board what you see in terms of resistances in me even if I dont see it myself. 

Thank you for modelling 21 on me I read that and thought now since you have pointed it out it makes a lot more sense. Since you and others have said to me that I have executed and/or shown signs of execution yet I see it briefly, or acknowledge it only to a day or 2 later go back to not seeing any more has shown me that yeah as you said im not stonewalling (thankfully!) and that yes im type 21 100% now as the fear of failure is very much now obvious to me based on your reply here. For me its making sure I get to that 'day 180' having found the sweet spot for this sub for me and then not giving the subconscious any room to escape.

Type 13 is yes me since im unaware of any progress im making.

Type 5 is the only one im 50/50 and unsure about as im not making moves to escape but simply looking for ways to either hear that ive found the sweetspot or to increase the intensity until I do. I feared changing anything without your advice and guidance as I dont want to do what I think is best only for you to tell me later it wasnt. 

Type 3 yes I guessed this too due to the recent stress and agitation I felt. 


you wrote: 

Quote:Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Ive read them, and I will read them again after a break and possibly tomorrow so that I can clearly see as im mentally tired. So im seeing resistance 3, 5, 13, and 21 as you've asked because this sub is clearly working and its working because my subconscious is using more than 1 type of resistance to try and stop it? Is this a correct assessment? If you can explain in your own way it would help me a lot please to understand. 

So if it is working was I right to ask if I should increase the sub further since I myself was unsure if it was working? (again my goal hasnt been to avoid or bypass or reduce the sub in anyway but to give it more power). 

Quote:Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

Ok yes so ok thank you so I guess no refund for me as im executing!! (lol joking a refund has never been the goal for me). Ok so then was I right to come and ask you if I should increase the sub? I mean at this stage as I consciously couldnt see any execution (and we know through seeing the forms of resistance that I am executing) I was left wondering whether to increase the sub or not which is what brought me today to ask you what to do. 


Thank you Shannon yes Ultrasonic is best for me as it isnt an excuse I can use to say I couldnt sleep therefore stopped the sub. So ok after my 2 days OFF which is from today I will then start with 4 loops and share the data in my journal as usual to help see how I progress. 

Once again thank you I know im probably not the easiest fella here but I appreciate your patience in helping me out. So yeah thank you mate and sorry to all for stopping shannon from working. sorry.

(07-06-2021, 01:24 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 12:53 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 12:36 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 09:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 08:59 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon thanks bro! As my reply above this to @callie I did wonder if it is resistance but not sure even though its sure indicators it is. 

ill continue as I am going then. Is resistance a sign im executing or close to it and not stonewalling etc? - just asking for some reassurance I think. Thank you.

Logically, resistance is a response to a stimulus, is it not?  And why would there be a response, never mind a resistance response, if something were not happening to respond to and resist?

Don't just blow this off.  Go through the list of forms of resistance and identify the one or ones you are exhibiting and then tell me what you found.

ok I have pen and paper ready to make any notes as I read through the resistance page mate. 

True I was just unsure if it is for sure resistance or not and if it is then does that mean im executing rather than stonewalling and thus would increasing the intensity be a better strategy knowing my history of stonewalling.

I think im fearing that I "maybe" stonewalling. I started the sub relaxed and chilled out and now since im unsure myself.  I think its the big fear of not finding that "sweetspot" that will help smash through my resistances. Im eager and willing to try more loops etc.

Anyway the types of resistance I think are me (please correct me if im wrong) and currently exhibiting are: 

Type 1 Stonewalling - well this has been me in the past based on your assessment. Right now am I stonewalling subconsciously I dont know for sure. Sure I get that if im showing resistance then im not stonewalling.

Possibly Type 2. I mean there have been times where during the 49 days ive wondered was that me executing or just my imagination. Nothing concrete has occured as yet for me to know or even daily or weekly in terms of effects for me to say ok there is a trend. Then I read journals by others on say hybrid and think wow they're so certain they're executing etc.

Type 3 I think did happen to me. some days ago it I think did happen. what ive now realised is once I update my journal with a post I forget what happened a day or days before. That could be due to my personality or my short term memory not fully consolidating due to my erratic sleep regime. 

So im upto type 13 so far in my reading and taking a pause to explain that I may be type 13. Im aware that my conscious thoughts are not 'will the sub work' (I believe it CAN work) but my thoughts are is it working YET, by now? If it is working and im not consciously seeing it fine but its not that the sub cant work but is it working yet or do I need to increase the intensity. I know you said that resistance would be to decrease the intensity but nothing in my mind has said do that but to increase it so that I CAN execute it quickly. I think reaching day 49 has scared me what if I reach day 60-180 and not fully executed or just executed a blip. This all is of course due to my years of history as you are aware so im just eager to execute this fully and quickly. 

Ive read them all and so far on this sub I cant see any other applying to me at this current stage.

The reason I had you go through the list is that I wanted to point out to you what is happening vs what you see.

In you, I see the following types of resistance:
3, 5, 13, 21 (which was modeled on you, by the way).  

If you were stonewalling, you would simply have no results at all to notice.  There would be no worries, no signs of execution, and nobody would be telling you that you are executing.  It would be as if you were not even using a subliminal.

Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

I suggest you do one of the following, depending on which appeals most:

If you prefer using ultrasonic or masked, then continue adding a loop per day on each ASRB2 cycle.  Since you seem to be our most fearful customer at the current time, simply continue adding loops until you manage to hit enough loops to either override the issue, or you run out of time to run them in a day.  I don't suggest more than 8 or 9 under any circumstances. If you get to that point and still have worries that it's not enough, start adding days on until you override those worries.

If you prefer using Hybrid, then start using 1 loop of hybrid and increase one loop per ASRB2 cycle until you achieve your goal or run out of time.  If you run out of time in a day to run them, then start adding days on each ASRB2 cycle.

This advice is for Jake ONLY.

Wow and thank you. Im sorry to you and all for taking your time like this but it is coming from a sincere heart and I do appreciate you helping me out this way mate. 

You're the wizard here so I respect and take on board what you see in terms of resistances in me even if I dont see it myself. 

Thank you for modelling 21 on me I read that and thought now since you have pointed it out it makes a lot more sense. Since you and others have said to me that I have executed and/or shown signs of execution yet I see it briefly, or acknowledge it only to a day or 2 later go back to not seeing any more has shown me that yeah as you said im not stonewalling (thankfully!) and that yes im type 21 100% now as the fear of failure is very much now obvious to me based on your reply here. For me its making sure I get to that 'day 180' having found the sweet spot for this sub for me and then not giving the subconscious any room to escape.

Type 13 is yes me since im unaware of any progress im making.

Type 5 is the only one im 50/50 and unsure about as im not making moves to escape but simply looking for ways to either hear that ive found the sweetspot or to increase the intensity until I do. I feared changing anything without your advice and guidance as I dont want to do what I think is best only for you to tell me later it wasnt. 

Type 3 yes I guessed this too due to the recent stress and agitation I felt. 


you wrote: 

Quote:Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Ive read them, and I will read them again after a break and possibly tomorrow so that I can clearly see as im mentally tired. So im seeing resistance 3, 5, 13, and 21 as you've asked because this sub is clearly working and its working because my subconscious is using more than 1 type of resistance to try and stop it? Is this a correct assessment? If you can explain in your own way it would help me a lot please to understand. 

So if it is working was I right to ask if I should increase the sub further since I myself was unsure if it was working? (again my goal hasnt been to avoid or bypass or reduce the sub in anyway but to give it more power). 

Quote:Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

Ok yes so ok thank you so I guess no refund for me as im executing!! (lol joking a refund has never been the goal for me). Ok so then was I right to come and ask you if I should increase the sub? I mean at this stage as I consciously couldnt see any execution (and we know through seeing the forms of resistance that I am executing) I was left wondering whether to increase the sub or not which is what brought me today to ask you what to do. 


Thank you Shannon yes Ultrasonic is best for me as it isnt an excuse I can use to say I couldnt sleep therefore stopped the sub. So ok after my 2 days OFF which is from today I will then start with 4 loops and share the data in my journal as usual to help see how I progress. 

Once again thank you I know im probably not the easiest fella here but I appreciate your patience in helping me out. So yeah thank you mate and sorry to all for stopping shannon from working. sorry.

The reason I am giving you the usage instructions I am giving you is that I want you to see clearly.  To do that we have to override the parts of you responding with attempts at resisting, and to do that you probably need more exposure.  That is not to say that the current number of loops would not work, but you seem to need to see the effects consciously, and that is difficult when you are hiding them from yourself and lying to yourself as to whether they are there or not.  So let's see how many loops a day and days on it takes to override that response.

(07-06-2021, 02:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 01:24 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 12:53 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 12:36 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 09:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Logically, resistance is a response to a stimulus, is it not?  And why would there be a response, never mind a resistance response, if something were not happening to respond to and resist?

Don't just blow this off.  Go through the list of forms of resistance and identify the one or ones you are exhibiting and then tell me what you found.

ok I have pen and paper ready to make any notes as I read through the resistance page mate. 

True I was just unsure if it is for sure resistance or not and if it is then does that mean im executing rather than stonewalling and thus would increasing the intensity be a better strategy knowing my history of stonewalling.

I think im fearing that I "maybe" stonewalling. I started the sub relaxed and chilled out and now since im unsure myself.  I think its the big fear of not finding that "sweetspot" that will help smash through my resistances. Im eager and willing to try more loops etc.

Anyway the types of resistance I think are me (please correct me if im wrong) and currently exhibiting are: 

Type 1 Stonewalling - well this has been me in the past based on your assessment. Right now am I stonewalling subconsciously I dont know for sure. Sure I get that if im showing resistance then im not stonewalling.

Possibly Type 2. I mean there have been times where during the 49 days ive wondered was that me executing or just my imagination. Nothing concrete has occured as yet for me to know or even daily or weekly in terms of effects for me to say ok there is a trend. Then I read journals by others on say hybrid and think wow they're so certain they're executing etc.

Type 3 I think did happen to me. some days ago it I think did happen. what ive now realised is once I update my journal with a post I forget what happened a day or days before. That could be due to my personality or my short term memory not fully consolidating due to my erratic sleep regime. 

So im upto type 13 so far in my reading and taking a pause to explain that I may be type 13. Im aware that my conscious thoughts are not 'will the sub work' (I believe it CAN work) but my thoughts are is it working YET, by now? If it is working and im not consciously seeing it fine but its not that the sub cant work but is it working yet or do I need to increase the intensity. I know you said that resistance would be to decrease the intensity but nothing in my mind has said do that but to increase it so that I CAN execute it quickly. I think reaching day 49 has scared me what if I reach day 60-180 and not fully executed or just executed a blip. This all is of course due to my years of history as you are aware so im just eager to execute this fully and quickly. 

Ive read them all and so far on this sub I cant see any other applying to me at this current stage.

The reason I had you go through the list is that I wanted to point out to you what is happening vs what you see.

In you, I see the following types of resistance:
3, 5, 13, 21 (which was modeled on you, by the way).  

If you were stonewalling, you would simply have no results at all to notice.  There would be no worries, no signs of execution, and nobody would be telling you that you are executing.  It would be as if you were not even using a subliminal.

Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

I suggest you do one of the following, depending on which appeals most:

If you prefer using ultrasonic or masked, then continue adding a loop per day on each ASRB2 cycle.  Since you seem to be our most fearful customer at the current time, simply continue adding loops until you manage to hit enough loops to either override the issue, or you run out of time to run them in a day.  I don't suggest more than 8 or 9 under any circumstances. If you get to that point and still have worries that it's not enough, start adding days on until you override those worries.

If you prefer using Hybrid, then start using 1 loop of hybrid and increase one loop per ASRB2 cycle until you achieve your goal or run out of time.  If you run out of time in a day to run them, then start adding days on each ASRB2 cycle.

This advice is for Jake ONLY.

Wow and thank you. Im sorry to you and all for taking your time like this but it is coming from a sincere heart and I do appreciate you helping me out this way mate. 

You're the wizard here so I respect and take on board what you see in terms of resistances in me even if I dont see it myself. 

Thank you for modelling 21 on me I read that and thought now since you have pointed it out it makes a lot more sense. Since you and others have said to me that I have executed and/or shown signs of execution yet I see it briefly, or acknowledge it only to a day or 2 later go back to not seeing any more has shown me that yeah as you said im not stonewalling (thankfully!) and that yes im type 21 100% now as the fear of failure is very much now obvious to me based on your reply here. For me its making sure I get to that 'day 180' having found the sweet spot for this sub for me and then not giving the subconscious any room to escape.

Type 13 is yes me since im unaware of any progress im making.

Type 5 is the only one im 50/50 and unsure about as im not making moves to escape but simply looking for ways to either hear that ive found the sweetspot or to increase the intensity until I do. I feared changing anything without your advice and guidance as I dont want to do what I think is best only for you to tell me later it wasnt. 

Type 3 yes I guessed this too due to the recent stress and agitation I felt. 


you wrote: 

Quote:Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Ive read them, and I will read them again after a break and possibly tomorrow so that I can clearly see as im mentally tired. So im seeing resistance 3, 5, 13, and 21 as you've asked because this sub is clearly working and its working because my subconscious is using more than 1 type of resistance to try and stop it? Is this a correct assessment? If you can explain in your own way it would help me a lot please to understand. 

So if it is working was I right to ask if I should increase the sub further since I myself was unsure if it was working? (again my goal hasnt been to avoid or bypass or reduce the sub in anyway but to give it more power). 

Quote:Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

Ok yes so ok thank you so I guess no refund for me as im executing!! (lol joking a refund has never been the goal for me). Ok so then was I right to come and ask you if I should increase the sub? I mean at this stage as I consciously couldnt see any execution (and we know through seeing the forms of resistance that I am executing) I was left wondering whether to increase the sub or not which is what brought me today to ask you what to do. 


Thank you Shannon yes Ultrasonic is best for me as it isnt an excuse I can use to say I couldnt sleep therefore stopped the sub. So ok after my 2 days OFF which is from today I will then start with 4 loops and share the data in my journal as usual to help see how I progress. 

Once again thank you I know im probably not the easiest fella here but I appreciate your patience in helping me out. So yeah thank you mate and sorry to all for stopping shannon from working. sorry.

The reason I am giving you the usage instructions I am giving you is that I want you to see clearly.  To do that we have to override the parts of you responding with attempts at resisting, and to do that you probably need more exposure.  That is not to say that the current number of loops would not work, but you seem to need to see the effects consciously, and that is difficult when you are hiding them from yourself and lying to yourself as to whether they are there or not.  So let's see how many loops a day and days on it takes to override that response.

Thank you so much! and just so im clear myself, what should I be looking out for specifically please during this?

(07-06-2021, 05:17 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 02:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 01:24 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 12:53 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 12:36 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]ok I have pen and paper ready to make any notes as I read through the resistance page mate. 

True I was just unsure if it is for sure resistance or not and if it is then does that mean im executing rather than stonewalling and thus would increasing the intensity be a better strategy knowing my history of stonewalling.

I think im fearing that I "maybe" stonewalling. I started the sub relaxed and chilled out and now since im unsure myself.  I think its the big fear of not finding that "sweetspot" that will help smash through my resistances. Im eager and willing to try more loops etc.

Anyway the types of resistance I think are me (please correct me if im wrong) and currently exhibiting are: 

Type 1 Stonewalling - well this has been me in the past based on your assessment. Right now am I stonewalling subconsciously I dont know for sure. Sure I get that if im showing resistance then im not stonewalling.

Possibly Type 2. I mean there have been times where during the 49 days ive wondered was that me executing or just my imagination. Nothing concrete has occured as yet for me to know or even daily or weekly in terms of effects for me to say ok there is a trend. Then I read journals by others on say hybrid and think wow they're so certain they're executing etc.

Type 3 I think did happen to me. some days ago it I think did happen. what ive now realised is once I update my journal with a post I forget what happened a day or days before. That could be due to my personality or my short term memory not fully consolidating due to my erratic sleep regime. 

So im upto type 13 so far in my reading and taking a pause to explain that I may be type 13. Im aware that my conscious thoughts are not 'will the sub work' (I believe it CAN work) but my thoughts are is it working YET, by now? If it is working and im not consciously seeing it fine but its not that the sub cant work but is it working yet or do I need to increase the intensity. I know you said that resistance would be to decrease the intensity but nothing in my mind has said do that but to increase it so that I CAN execute it quickly. I think reaching day 49 has scared me what if I reach day 60-180 and not fully executed or just executed a blip. This all is of course due to my years of history as you are aware so im just eager to execute this fully and quickly. 

Ive read them all and so far on this sub I cant see any other applying to me at this current stage.

The reason I had you go through the list is that I wanted to point out to you what is happening vs what you see.

In you, I see the following types of resistance:
3, 5, 13, 21 (which was modeled on you, by the way).  

If you were stonewalling, you would simply have no results at all to notice.  There would be no worries, no signs of execution, and nobody would be telling you that you are executing.  It would be as if you were not even using a subliminal.

Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

I suggest you do one of the following, depending on which appeals most:

If you prefer using ultrasonic or masked, then continue adding a loop per day on each ASRB2 cycle.  Since you seem to be our most fearful customer at the current time, simply continue adding loops until you manage to hit enough loops to either override the issue, or you run out of time to run them in a day.  I don't suggest more than 8 or 9 under any circumstances. If you get to that point and still have worries that it's not enough, start adding days on until you override those worries.

If you prefer using Hybrid, then start using 1 loop of hybrid and increase one loop per ASRB2 cycle until you achieve your goal or run out of time.  If you run out of time in a day to run them, then start adding days on each ASRB2 cycle.

This advice is for Jake ONLY.

Wow and thank you. Im sorry to you and all for taking your time like this but it is coming from a sincere heart and I do appreciate you helping me out this way mate. 

You're the wizard here so I respect and take on board what you see in terms of resistances in me even if I dont see it myself. 

Thank you for modelling 21 on me I read that and thought now since you have pointed it out it makes a lot more sense. Since you and others have said to me that I have executed and/or shown signs of execution yet I see it briefly, or acknowledge it only to a day or 2 later go back to not seeing any more has shown me that yeah as you said im not stonewalling (thankfully!) and that yes im type 21 100% now as the fear of failure is very much now obvious to me based on your reply here. For me its making sure I get to that 'day 180' having found the sweet spot for this sub for me and then not giving the subconscious any room to escape.

Type 13 is yes me since im unaware of any progress im making.

Type 5 is the only one im 50/50 and unsure about as im not making moves to escape but simply looking for ways to either hear that ive found the sweetspot or to increase the intensity until I do. I feared changing anything without your advice and guidance as I dont want to do what I think is best only for you to tell me later it wasnt. 

Type 3 yes I guessed this too due to the recent stress and agitation I felt. 


you wrote: 

Quote:Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Ive read them, and I will read them again after a break and possibly tomorrow so that I can clearly see as im mentally tired. So im seeing resistance 3, 5, 13, and 21 as you've asked because this sub is clearly working and its working because my subconscious is using more than 1 type of resistance to try and stop it? Is this a correct assessment? If you can explain in your own way it would help me a lot please to understand. 

So if it is working was I right to ask if I should increase the sub further since I myself was unsure if it was working? (again my goal hasnt been to avoid or bypass or reduce the sub in anyway but to give it more power). 

Quote:Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

Ok yes so ok thank you so I guess no refund for me as im executing!! (lol joking a refund has never been the goal for me). Ok so then was I right to come and ask you if I should increase the sub? I mean at this stage as I consciously couldnt see any execution (and we know through seeing the forms of resistance that I am executing) I was left wondering whether to increase the sub or not which is what brought me today to ask you what to do. 


Thank you Shannon yes Ultrasonic is best for me as it isnt an excuse I can use to say I couldnt sleep therefore stopped the sub. So ok after my 2 days OFF which is from today I will then start with 4 loops and share the data in my journal as usual to help see how I progress. 

Once again thank you I know im probably not the easiest fella here but I appreciate your patience in helping me out. So yeah thank you mate and sorry to all for stopping shannon from working. sorry.

The reason I am giving you the usage instructions I am giving you is that I want you to see clearly.  To do that we have to override the parts of you responding with attempts at resisting, and to do that you probably need more exposure.  That is not to say that the current number of loops would not work, but you seem to need to see the effects consciously, and that is difficult when you are hiding them from yourself and lying to yourself as to whether they are there or not.  So let's see how many loops a day and days on it takes to override that response.

Thank you so much! and just so im clear myself, what should I be looking out for specifically please during this?

Nothing.  Just do it and let it do its job.

(07-07-2021, 07:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 05:17 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 02:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 01:24 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-06-2021, 12:53 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The reason I had you go through the list is that I wanted to point out to you what is happening vs what you see.

In you, I see the following types of resistance:
3, 5, 13, 21 (which was modeled on you, by the way).  

If you were stonewalling, you would simply have no results at all to notice.  There would be no worries, no signs of execution, and nobody would be telling you that you are executing.  It would be as if you were not even using a subliminal.

Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

I suggest you do one of the following, depending on which appeals most:

If you prefer using ultrasonic or masked, then continue adding a loop per day on each ASRB2 cycle.  Since you seem to be our most fearful customer at the current time, simply continue adding loops until you manage to hit enough loops to either override the issue, or you run out of time to run them in a day.  I don't suggest more than 8 or 9 under any circumstances. If you get to that point and still have worries that it's not enough, start adding days on until you override those worries.

If you prefer using Hybrid, then start using 1 loop of hybrid and increase one loop per ASRB2 cycle until you achieve your goal or run out of time.  If you run out of time in a day to run them, then start adding days on each ASRB2 cycle.

This advice is for Jake ONLY.

Wow and thank you. Im sorry to you and all for taking your time like this but it is coming from a sincere heart and I do appreciate you helping me out this way mate. 

You're the wizard here so I respect and take on board what you see in terms of resistances in me even if I dont see it myself. 

Thank you for modelling 21 on me I read that and thought now since you have pointed it out it makes a lot more sense. Since you and others have said to me that I have executed and/or shown signs of execution yet I see it briefly, or acknowledge it only to a day or 2 later go back to not seeing any more has shown me that yeah as you said im not stonewalling (thankfully!) and that yes im type 21 100% now as the fear of failure is very much now obvious to me based on your reply here. For me its making sure I get to that 'day 180' having found the sweet spot for this sub for me and then not giving the subconscious any room to escape.

Type 13 is yes me since im unaware of any progress im making.

Type 5 is the only one im 50/50 and unsure about as im not making moves to escape but simply looking for ways to either hear that ive found the sweetspot or to increase the intensity until I do. I feared changing anything without your advice and guidance as I dont want to do what I think is best only for you to tell me later it wasnt. 

Type 3 yes I guessed this too due to the recent stress and agitation I felt. 


you wrote: 

Quote:Go back and consider types 3, 5 and 21 carefully and make sure you understand them.  Then ask yourself, why would you be seeing resistance - and three separate types, no less - if the program wasn't doing anything?

Ive read them, and I will read them again after a break and possibly tomorrow so that I can clearly see as im mentally tired. So im seeing resistance 3, 5, 13, and 21 as you've asked because this sub is clearly working and its working because my subconscious is using more than 1 type of resistance to try and stop it? Is this a correct assessment? If you can explain in your own way it would help me a lot please to understand. 

So if it is working was I right to ask if I should increase the sub further since I myself was unsure if it was working? (again my goal hasnt been to avoid or bypass or reduce the sub in anyway but to give it more power). 

Quote:Your subconscious wants you to do whatever it takes to avoid execution, but it's happening anyway, which is causing that part or those parts of you to experience fear, which it then responds to by trying to convince you that nothing is working so you'll give up in the easy excuse that "I'm a stonewaller, this doesn't work on or for me."

But you're no longer stonewalling, because you can't.  Now all that is left is to lie to yourself that it's not working.  But it is.

Ok yes so ok thank you so I guess no refund for me as im executing!! (lol joking a refund has never been the goal for me). Ok so then was I right to come and ask you if I should increase the sub? I mean at this stage as I consciously couldnt see any execution (and we know through seeing the forms of resistance that I am executing) I was left wondering whether to increase the sub or not which is what brought me today to ask you what to do. 


Thank you Shannon yes Ultrasonic is best for me as it isnt an excuse I can use to say I couldnt sleep therefore stopped the sub. So ok after my 2 days OFF which is from today I will then start with 4 loops and share the data in my journal as usual to help see how I progress. 

Once again thank you I know im probably not the easiest fella here but I appreciate your patience in helping me out. So yeah thank you mate and sorry to all for stopping shannon from working. sorry.

The reason I am giving you the usage instructions I am giving you is that I want you to see clearly.  To do that we have to override the parts of you responding with attempts at resisting, and to do that you probably need more exposure.  That is not to say that the current number of loops would not work, but you seem to need to see the effects consciously, and that is difficult when you are hiding them from yourself and lying to yourself as to whether they are there or not.  So let's see how many loops a day and days on it takes to override that response.

Thank you so much! and just so im clear myself, what should I be looking out for specifically please during this?

Nothing.  Just do it and let it do its job.

ok, thank you again

Question for @Shannon or anyone else with experience with the AYP/MYP product line. I currently own three of the programs, AYPNPBRL, MYPSL, and MYPLBSL and figured I'd try one of them out for the first time. I'm ambivalent between the goals tbh, although MYPLBSL seems most appealing. Which one would you recommend to get me the fastest results? It seems for some programs in the latest generations, as program generations advanced past 5G it actually triggered more resistance in people and therefore hampered visible results relative to previous generations. Would the same phenomena potentially be playing out here between 5G and 4G? Are any of these three backed by more user success reports than the others?

(07-07-2021, 10:45 AM)Vasil Wrote: [ -> ]Question for @Shannon or anyone else with experience with the AYP/MYP product line. I currently own three of the programs, AYPNPBRL, MYPSL, and MYPLBSL and figured I'd try one of them out for the first time. I'm ambivalent between the goals tbh, although MYPLBSL seems most appealing. Which one would you recommend to get me the fastest results? It seems for some programs in the latest generations, as program generations advanced past 5G it actually triggered more resistance in people and therefore hampered visible results relative to previous generations. Would the same phenomena potentially be playing out here between 5G and 4G? Are any of these three backed by more user success reports than the others?

AYP - Attract Your Perfect is 4G
MYP - Manifest Your Perfect is 5G
Therefore it would make sense to use the 5G title since it is more technologically advanced.

Because you consciously find Manifest Your Perfect Large Breasted Sexual Lover the most appealing. Your subconscious should comply with that title and get you the fastest results.

Shannon for those of Us using UMSv2 do we need much a break between stages ? A day ;er two? None? that is once were done with the cycle of usage???
Diggin the fact that Stage 2 is already ,ready to roll. I'm sticking to the instructions of a full month,however,on each stage.

Shannon, I have a personal question to ask you and with your level of experience I would want to know your attitude on it

Have you got covid vaccination? Can you please also justify your answer. If no, why not? And if yes, have you read the vaccine study reports and concluded it was something you would be interested in?

I really hope you give your thoughts on this

Shannon, I need to ask you something about love that I hope you can help me shed some light upon. I know this girl who I have been in love with sinse high-school, but at the time I was to afraid to make a move and when I did things didn't work out, possibly due to me not being mature enough. High school was 10 years ago and it was 5 years we last met, but we met again today and even though I though I forgot the feelings I have for her, I know they have lingered on and was rescindled today. I'm more in control of my emotions, and can keep my cool around her in a new way, but still I sense that there is something there. Something in between us that I just know that it's there and I know we would have a great chance at creating something beautiful together. I now know that the only way to attract someone is to work on yourself and stay open to whatever shows up, rather than being obsessed with things as I was in the past. However, I don't know how to look at this situation. What is it so deeply inside of me that have this unwavering attraction toward everything about her and how should I deal with it? She lives in another city and have a boyfriend, but I still in some way feel (wishfully or not) that she may feel the same way to.