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(05-30-2021, 03:04 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 08:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 08:40 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

How is it going with UMS v2 stage 1? What are you currently working on?

I have purchased v2 the entire set. Shortly after that, UMS v1 helped me to make double the amount I paid for v2. Pretty awesome stuff

Hey, great news!  

Right now I am working not on Stage 1, but on Stage 4.  Stage 4 is the script from which stages 1, 2 and 3 will be extracted.  I'm working out how to configure the set, so I don't have to spend 4x as long doing configuration work.  Not very exciting to talk about, but my job is rarely exciting to talk about...

I wonder if that double the amount you paid for v2 wasn't TID from v2?  Have you ever had v1 do things like that for you before?


Shannon I know I replied to this post but I think I have a better view at it now.

 It seems as it was indeed a result of UMSv2 TID. Here how it feels, imagine a gate of abundance (or a channel) this gate is located somewhere above me ( I say above because when the gate opens, the very first feeling I feel is in my head area, then it washes my body as it flows downward to my heart, abdominal and other areas)

When the gate opens there is a magnitude of motivations, insight and vision almost always in this order motivation or inspiration > insight > clear vision > execution.... And the result of this gate opening is effortless monetary profit.

However as that result is achieved (certain amount of profit) the gate closes and everything disappear (including some part of the profit) 

To put in simple words here is how the actions are manifested when gate is closed Vs Open
Gate is Open: Order and clearance of thought hence leading to profit
Gate is Closed: Chaos and confusion with loss in profit.

Now I am reporting this because someone else few days ago raised a concern whether UMSv1 help address the issue of keeping us at a baseline level which seems the case right now (with slow progression upward)

And I am wondering if this is just a limitation of TID UMSv2 or there is an actual flaw in the script that is keeping us progressing at a slow rate by alternating our behavior between chaos and order. Its almost like the profits from the gate opening blinds me into chaos ( at least for a short duration until the gates is open again)


I really don't know what you may get from this feedback but I thought I would report since this been happening for a while and it could just be a limitation of TID for the time being.

Iirc it's the talk about financial thermometer, right?
(05-30-2021, 03:04 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 08:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 08:40 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

How is it going with UMS v2 stage 1? What are you currently working on?

I have purchased v2 the entire set. Shortly after that, UMS v1 helped me to make double the amount I paid for v2. Pretty awesome stuff

Hey, great news!  

Right now I am working not on Stage 1, but on Stage 4.  Stage 4 is the script from which stages 1, 2 and 3 will be extracted.  I'm working out how to configure the set, so I don't have to spend 4x as long doing configuration work.  Not very exciting to talk about, but my job is rarely exciting to talk about...

I wonder if that double the amount you paid for v2 wasn't TID from v2?  Have you ever had v1 do things like that for you before?


Shannon I know I replied to this post but I think I have a better view at it now.

 It seems as it was indeed a result of UMSv2 TID. Here how it feels, imagine a gate of abundance (or a channel) this gate is located somewhere above me ( I say above because when the gate opens, the very first feeling I feel is in my head area, then it washes my body as it flows downward to my heart, abdominal and other areas)

When the gate opens there is a magnitude of motivations, insight and vision almost always in this order motivation or inspiration > insight > clear vision > execution.... And the result of this gate opening is effortless monetary profit.

However as that result is achieved (certain amount of profit) the gate closes and everything disappear (including some part of the profit) 

To put in simple words here is how the actions are manifested when gate is closed Vs Open
Gate is Open: Order and clearance of thought hence leading to profit
Gate is Closed: Chaos and confusion with loss in profit.

Now I am reporting this because someone else few days ago raised a concern whether UMSv1 help address the issue of keeping us at a baseline level which seems the case right now (with slow progression upward)

And I am wondering if this is just a limitation of TID UMSv2 or there is an actual flaw in the script that is keeping us progressing at a slow rate by alternating our behavior between chaos and order. Its almost like the profits from the gate opening blinds me into chaos ( at least for a short duration until the gates is open again)


I really don't know what you may get from this feedback but I thought I would report since this been happening for a while and it could just be a limitation of TID for the time being.

Thats not a flaw in the script. Thats the tidal effect. The new program breaks through fear and achieves the goal and the fearful parts get more fearful and override for a short time. 

Its a combination of the limits of TID and the fact that the new FRM works fast, but not instantly. When youre using the program itself this will go away as the fears are overcome.
@Shannon : "What do you guys think? Should we start a thread showing all the crazy-ass emails we get?"

Not wise...it could backfire, people are sensible and hurt, and someone making funny of them will...well...you know how it goes.

Btw,If that goes in my pocket XD , than I would say go for it XD
(05-31-2021, 01:39 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon : "What do you guys think? Should we start a thread showing all the crazy-ass emails we get?"

Not wise...it could backfire, people are sensible and hurt, and someone making funny of them will...well...you know how it goes.

Btw,If that goes in my pocket XD , than I would say go for it XD

I agree. Doing that could backfire.
(05-31-2021, 04:39 AM)DMSIuser78 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-31-2021, 01:39 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon : "What do you guys think? Should we start a thread showing all the crazy-ass emails we get?"

Not wise...it could backfire, people are sensible and hurt, and someone making funny of them will...well...you know how it goes.

Btw,If that goes in my pocket XD , than I would say go for it XD

I agree. Doing that could backfire.

That is why I have been so carefully considering it.  In some cases, they're genuinely believing what they send us.  In some cases, they're being vicious and malicious. In some cases, they're genuinely mentally unhealthy.
(05-31-2021, 09:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-31-2021, 04:39 AM)DMSIuser78 Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-31-2021, 01:39 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon : "What do you guys think? Should we start a thread showing all the crazy-ass emails we get?"

Not wise...it could backfire, people are sensible and hurt, and someone making funny of them will...well...you know how it goes.

Btw,If that goes in my pocket XD , than I would say go for it XD

I agree. Doing that could backfire.

That is why I have been so carefully considering it.  In some cases, they're genuinely believing what they send us.  In some cases, they're being vicious and malicious.  In some cases, they're genuinely mentally unhealthy.

Uhhhh........ Wacko

Are there a lot of them?
I don't really see IML having anything to gain from exposing peoples messages, only serves to make the trolls even angrier
I have seen that BASE help you focus on finding ways to create value for your customers and I know that UMS is not BASE, but still I've seen you saying that many people running UMS start their own businesses - therefore I'm wondering if UMS help you with the same focus on bringing value to your customers (I can't find the old product page so I can't reference it, but IIRC i couldn't see anything about this on the old product page).
(05-31-2021, 11:48 AM)Superman Wrote: [ -> ]I don't really see IML having anything to gain from exposing peoples messages, only serves to make the trolls even angrier

What I have been thinking was that in the case that we are dealing with a customer who is being abusive, taking advantage of us, threatening us, and lying on our forum and others, it might be useful to reveal what they're doing by publishing their emails and our responses, etc.  But I don't think it's really useful to do that with anyone who we might think is crazy.  The idea originally was just to show you guys some of what we deal with behind the scenes.  I'm of a mind that it's not really worth it.
(05-31-2021, 12:37 PM)Johannesbrst Wrote: [ -> ]I have seen that BASE help you focus on finding ways to create value for your customers and I know that UMS is not BASE, but still I've seen you saying that many people running UMS start their own businesses - therefore I'm wondering if UMS help you with the same focus on bringing value to your customers (I can't find the old product page so I can't reference it, but IIRC i couldn't see anything about this on the old product page).

UMS has no direct mention of starting a business or anything to do with customers at all.  It deals with creating and achieving Ultimate Monetary Success.  If bringing value to customers and starting a business would be your best way to achieve the program goals, and that's the path you choose to take, then that's what you'll end up doing according to the instructions in use.
One businessman to another, not really any upside, but a whole lot of downside.

I know all about maniac customers etc., would be illuminating to many here to see the nonsense we put up with.

But, may ruin some goodwill here or hurt the brand long-term etc., so I'd nix that.

I believe you 100%, no doubt many here do. That's enough, I suspect.
Shannon, when we increase the days on, do we also decrease the days off?

For example, OF is 2 days on 3 days off, if I increase it to 3 days on, should it now be 2 days off?

Many thanks
Shannon, do you believe in here being such thing as a 'true will'? If yes, is it somehow incorporated into the subs? (I understand you have free will and don't need to follow your true will if it exists ) Thanks.
(05-31-2021, 09:02 PM)StridingStrider Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, when we increase the days on, do we also decrease the days off?

For example, OF is 2 days on 3 days off, if I increase it to 3 days on, should it now be 2 days off?

Many thanks

Unless you get a specific urge from executing AutoConfig, one variable at a time, and one step at a time.  If you increase the days on, do only that and do it by one increment per ASRB2 cycle.  I suggest you go to 2 days off first instead of 3, though, and then worry about increasing days on or loops per day.
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