(10-19-2019, 03:34 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-19-2019, 08:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (10-19-2019, 04:28 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon!
Just an idea for the next program to build after the intriguing "mystery program", haha...
My good friend, she's crippled badly by depression. I got her E3, but she washed out of it after a short while. It's a pattern with her, if something isn't instant, or has any difficulty, she bolts and just uses it to further reinforce the issue. "See...I told you it wouldn't work" etc., meanwhile never giving it the CHANCE to. Aggravating, because I receive endless whining about her issue. Not sure what I'm supposed to "do" about it, I'm not a psychologist and with her always running away from it, it won't be challenged and solved.
She has a crippling phobia, that works hand in hand seemingly with depression. They play off each other, probably a sense of futility stemming from it etc. That said, I think an update to refresh DRA to current specs would do her well. Now, I understand the "mystery program", as you've made tweaks to it since DMSI's and ARA's releases, make it the most powerful program? So, either a brand new DRA at it's level, or beyond, could do well for her I think. Maybe it can finally bring her out of this rut she's been unable to climb out of in like 20 years...I'm surprised PTPA isn't in DRA actually as well.
Thank you for this, Shannon. By the way, I will write a thread for ARA 5.75G, which I've bought for my brother. I believe you'll be very pleased to hear about that experience...
DRA is in my list of options to choose from. The "mystery program" is based on the skeleton script that was used by ARA, LFC and Awakener. The difference here is what the key and core scripts are, and it has one update to the skeleton script. That update makes it more powerful in a specific, narrow direction, and that update will be standard in the skeleton script until it is updated again in that module. But they should all be equally powerful overall.
I don't remember if PTPA was in the last one, but it will be in the next one.
One way or the other, nothing is going to help if every time it starts doing it's job, she bolts and runs away. But DRA is one of the options in my list.
Great to hear, Shannon!
Well I can say DMSI V3.3.2 may finally be seemingly starting to do some things for me at least internally. Also, if you coupled that with the shocking results my brother has received from ARA, I really want DRA to be remade so my friend can have some amazing benefit too. This will really be a life-changer for her, and many others no doubt, given how the new subs seem to function now.
I'm happy to hear it's a possible option for the next sub to create. I think it can be a slam dunk now. Especially given the results both my brother and I have experienced with our equally difficult sticking points seeing traction at last.
Please do tell about what ARA has done for your brother. I don't think I have seen any posts about that.
Quote:EDIT: Just read another thread where you were talking about releasing a special experimental DMSI to test some theory on fear. I wholeheartedly volunteer to test this sub immediately. After all, if it can advance me, it's logical it can advance most others. Makes sense to release it for testing at least to a tester like me. That's far too much an intriguing prospect for me to turn down. Please consider that. Thank you very much, Shannon. Looking forward to seeing that release, I truly hope you do it.
That is a
possibility, not a certainty. I am still in the process of researching how to adjust and improve FRM and turn it into FRM 4.9. I have to have that finished before it's even worth thinking about.
I’m curious Shannon, what are the outcomes from running DMSI versus SM? What kind of results should you be after for them respectively. They both are directed for the same goal, achieving sex - but I have a hard time wrapping my head around the differences so an example of what they will produce would help clarifying that.
Could you perhaps say that DMSI bring out girls strongest desire to sleep with the user, while with SM the user learn to bring out the strongest sexual essence in girls?
Hi Shannon, ive done 2 cycles of 8 days 4 loops the 2nd cycle was entire 8 days 4 loops with bone conductor headphones with no results yet, currently on day 3 of bloom.
Ive been around women daily, and it seems im invisible to them, even ones im interested in and not the hottest but attractive and can be around them for an hour within 50 feet and no reactions.
Internally no changes or feelings so far either or dreams.
What might you suggest i try this 3rd cycle.
Also my phone died yesterday so got a new samsung 10 plus not sure if that has active noise cancelling if i was used ultrasonic through phone. I havent used the new phone for the subliminal yet.
Shannon,
Here is what I previously posted :
(10-11-2019, 06:21 PM)Rossignol17 Wrote:
Thank you Benjamin and THolt for your replies. I am looking forward to going on USLM4.2 when it is upgraded. If it works better than version 3, it will be amazing ! I am sooooo tempted to just switch back to USLM3 right now, but I have been running UMS for 3 months and I really want to give it a fair shot, so I will stay on it, even though no financial improvements are happening for me.
(10-11-2019, 07:06 PM)Shannon Wrote:
If you're not getting financial improvements, it's almost certainly an issue with how and how much you're using it. What are your usage patterns?
(10-11-2019, 11:47 PM)Rossignol17 Wrote:
I started out with 1x1 and 7x0 per the original instructions. I gradually increased my loops and then decreased my days off, depending on how I was feeling. After the initial month, I was able to use it more frequently without feeling completely exhausted by it. I am now doing 4x5 and 3x0. I tried lengthening the bloom period but nothing was happening and I was feeling the need to run loops after 3 or 4 days. I have been very consistent with my listening schedule and I play the masked format on wired earbuds. I usually listen right before bed and I have no trouble falling asleep while it is playing. I can confirm that the program has played and that my earbuds are still in my ears when I wake up, so that has never been an issue.
(10-12-2019, 06:01 AM)Shannon Wrote:
You say you feel the need to run more loops after 3-4 days. That means the program is executing. Which means something in you is resisting the program.
Did you allow that same urge to guide you in how many loops per day and how many days off?
Also, are you using ultrasonic with earbuds? What format are you using? And what volume?
Rossignol17 Wrote:
Yes, I allowed the same urge to guide me with both number of loops and days off.
I am using the FLAC version, masked trickling stream at a volume of 23 or 24/100. It is a comfortable volume that is pleasant to listen to.......not too loud, not too quiet. I use wired earbuds on a Cowan Plenue player. I cannot use the ultrasonic because it gives me horrible vertigo, even wirh the hybrid version.
I don't understand how I could execute USLM3 so perfectly, and not execute UMS at all. My goals for USLM3 were financial with that sub. I am getting plenty of exposure and it has been 3 months of usage.
(10-20-2019, 03:20 PM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]I’m curious Shannon, what are the outcomes from running DMSI versus SM? What kind of results should you be after for them respectively. They both are directed for the same goal, achieving sex - but I have a hard time wrapping my head around the differences so an example of what they will produce would help clarifying that.
Could you perhaps say that DMSI bring out girls strongest desire to sleep with the user, while with SM the user learn to bring out the strongest sexual essence in girls?
This question can be answered by doing your due diligence. It's already been answered a number of times over the years.
(10-20-2019, 10:45 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, ive done 2 cycles of 8 days 4 loops the 2nd cycle was entire 8 days 4 loops with bone conductor headphones with no results yet, currently on day 3 of bloom.
Ive been around women daily, and it seems im invisible to them, even ones im interested in and not the hottest but attractive and can be around them for an hour within 50 feet and no reactions.
Internally no changes or feelings so far either or dreams.
What might you suggest i try this 3rd cycle.
Also my phone died yesterday so got a new samsung 10 plus not sure if that has active noise cancelling if i was used ultrasonic through phone. I havent used the new phone for the subliminal yet.
I suggest you start carpet bombing using the ultrasonic or one of the hybrid tracks.
(10-21-2019, 08:10 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (10-20-2019, 03:20 PM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]I’m curious Shannon, what are the outcomes from running DMSI versus SM? What kind of results should you be after for them respectively. They both are directed for the same goal, achieving sex - but I have a hard time wrapping my head around the differences so an example of what they will produce would help clarifying that.
Could you perhaps say that DMSI bring out girls strongest desire to sleep with the user, while with SM the user learn to bring out the strongest sexual essence in girls?
This question can be answered by doing your due diligence. It's already been answered a number of times over the years.
I wouldn't have any problems with doing that, but I don't find the search function working properly to be able to do that. Searching for "DMSI SM" DMSI Sex machine" or by replacing the blank with a + only generate a small amount of hits in the forum. Maybe I'm doing it wrong?
(10-20-2019, 11:43 PM)Rossignol17 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
Here is what I previously posted :
(10-11-2019, 06:21 PM)Rossignol17 Wrote:
Thank you Benjamin and THolt for your replies. I am looking forward to going on USLM4.2 when it is upgraded. If it works better than version 3, it will be amazing ! I am sooooo tempted to just switch back to USLM3 right now, but I have been running UMS for 3 months and I really want to give it a fair shot, so I will stay on it, even though no financial improvements are happening for me.
(10-11-2019, 07:06 PM)Shannon Wrote:
If you're not getting financial improvements, it's almost certainly an issue with how and how much you're using it. What are your usage patterns?
(10-11-2019, 11:47 PM)Rossignol17 Wrote:
I started out with 1x1 and 7x0 per the original instructions. I gradually increased my loops and then decreased my days off, depending on how I was feeling. After the initial month, I was able to use it more frequently without feeling completely exhausted by it. I am now doing 4x5 and 3x0. I tried lengthening the bloom period but nothing was happening and I was feeling the need to run loops after 3 or 4 days. I have been very consistent with my listening schedule and I play the masked format on wired earbuds. I usually listen right before bed and I have no trouble falling asleep while it is playing. I can confirm that the program has played and that my earbuds are still in my ears when I wake up, so that has never been an issue.
(10-12-2019, 06:01 AM)Shannon Wrote:
You say you feel the need to run more loops after 3-4 days. That means the program is executing. Which means something in you is resisting the program.
Did you allow that same urge to guide you in how many loops per day and how many days off?
Also, are you using ultrasonic with earbuds? What format are you using? And what volume?
Rossignol17 Wrote:
Yes, I allowed the same urge to guide me with both number of loops and days off.
I am using the FLAC version, masked trickling stream at a volume of 23 or 24/100. It is a comfortable volume that is pleasant to listen to.......not too loud, not too quiet. I use wired earbuds on a Cowan Plenue player. I cannot use the ultrasonic because it gives me horrible vertigo, even wirh the hybrid version.
I don't understand how I could execute USLM3 so perfectly, and not execute UMS at all. My goals for USLM3 were financial with that sub. I am getting plenty of exposure and it has been 3 months of usage.
Alright. So if the ultrasonic gives you vertigo, this may be a defense mechanism against the most effective format. Can you use it laying down with your eyes open or closed and have the feeling be bearable?
If not, I suggest you start trying to carpet bomb every night all night until you start getting more obvious results.
To answer your question, the closer you get to achieving a goal that scares your subconscious, the harder it will fight to prevent that outcome from happening. The fact that USLM3 executed well, but this does not means this is making you much more likely to (and probably much more directly) achieve one or more goals that terrifies your subconscious. It means that harder resistance is required to stop your success. It means the program is more powerful and more successfully targeting the achievement of its goals. You just have to use it enough to override that response.
I suspect that your vertigo in response to the ultrasonic is aimed to prevent that very thing. Perhaps you can set up a playlist that uses the ultrasonic, and have it start playing an hour after you go to sleep.
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Shannon
Congrats on the two new subs.
In the near future, are you going to release a sleep aid sub that can be used in conjunction with whatever other sub you are using.
i am considering the anxiety sub because my mind won't shut off at night when i try to sleep.
I want to keep running UMS as I feel like I am battling through some resistance on it.
There's a sleep induction aid already, I believe? I think you can use it with other subs IIRC; don't take my word for it though.
The tranquilizer series sounds interesting.
Hey Shannon. The new tranquilizer subs sounds great.
What will be the difference between using tranquilizer as an "instant on" along with the recommended loops on ARA at night vs. using the the recommended loops on ARA at night and using ARA as an "instant on" instead of the tranquilizer?
Great just what the world needs ,more of Man...more peacefulness and calmness..great addition to the already growing cataloge of IML sub's....
http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/t...r-a-5-75g/
IM getting an Image of "Lurch" answering the door from the Adams Family "You Rang!?" like that chilled ,but not that dead! Ha!
Love ta read more about people's experiences with the Tranquilizer!!
Look! Gawd-Jeera!
"The Tranqulizer Meets the Naturalizer" sounds like a 1950's Black n White B-Movie, ONLY Much much better!! :-)
(10-21-2019, 08:36 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
Congrats on the two new subs.
In the near future, are you going to release a sleep aid sub that can be used in conjunction with whatever other sub you are using.
i am considering the anxiety sub because my mind won't shut off at night when i try to sleep.
I want to keep running UMS as I feel like I am battling through some resistance on it.
The sleep aid that corresponds to the 5.75G Awakener is being developed, but it is a much more challenging job than the Awakener was. It is much safer to wake up than fall asleep. So I am not only having to find a way to get as many people as possible to actually fall asleep in response to the sleep aid, I have to find ways to make sure it only works while sleeping is a safe activity, and at the same time, overriding that when "safe" is defined incorrectly by PTSD and fear.
In other words, it's almost impossible.
As a result, I am having to be very creative. I am now working specifically on making the program just work well enough to make its users happy. Once I have that accomplished, I'll be working on making the program work at the same time it only works when it is safe for it to work. IF I can accomplish that, then I will release a version of it for public consumption and start working on a different version for PTSD/phobia sufferers.
The key is, this MUST be safe. If it cannot be made safe, it may never be released. That is very important, and VERY challenging.
You could try the ARA 1 loop for sleep, but I can't guarantee that ARA will solve your problem. If it's caused by anxiety, probably will. If not, may not.
(10-21-2019, 08:55 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]There's a sleep induction aid already, I believe? I think you can use it with other subs IIRC; don't take my word for it though.
The tranquilizer series sounds interesting.
The 5G SIA, yes. That is a very good program still. Not the fastest, nor 100% effective in all situations, but I still use it a lot.