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(05-25-2021, 04:01 AM)Qiel Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-24-2021, 10:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2021, 10:01 PM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]About OF V3: I won't do a journal here, I didn't think there is anything to report before the 3 month mark and even if it is, it might be too "normalized" and I wouldn't see it. But on day 5 I already saw myself changing behavior and acting more quickly. I'm not sure if it is a one time only or something like that but I was positively surprised to see that. Thumbs up for that!
On the website it is a little strangely written in the beginning note with "If you have purchased a copy of Overcoming Fear Version 2, buying this version of the program before you have used Version 1 for at least 8 months straight" doesn't make sense. It talks about a bought version 2 and the usage of version 1 which isn't necessarily possible. I think you meant 2.

About UMS2: Is it going to be a 4-stage-set or a 3-stage-set? Since the 6-stagers also have a refresher stage (7) and are not called 7-stage-sets, what makes UMS2 a 4-stage-set? How will stage 4 be different to a stage 7 from AM/WM/SM?

Thanks for pointing that out.  I'll change it in a bit.

UMS v2 will be a 3+1 stage set.  Stage 4 will be "the whole script", but it may have one piece missing from Stages 1, 2 and 3 depending on what the models tell me.  That piece is the FRM.  It may be that we do better to leave it out of Stage 4, so that we can use stages 1-2-3 again and again until we don't need it, and then use Stage 4 without it.  If that is the case, Stage 4 will be everything but FRM.  If not, it will be everything in stages 1-2-3.

"6 stagers" are properly called 6+1 stage sets, because the last "stage" is really the goal of the first six.  It's the goal and the refresher, with the stages being steps to that goal.  Thus, it's technically not a stage.  And, we don't charge for the goal/refresher "stage" if you buy the whole set at once.

Stage 1 will primarily deal with clearing garbage beliefs and fear, and setting a basic foundation.  Stage 2 will continue removing fear and garbage beliefs and build on that foundation.  Stage 3 will only have fear removal, and not be trying to remove garbage thoughts.  It will build further on the Stage 2 foundation and give you "the rest of what you need".  As I said before, Stage 4 will be everything in Stages 1-2-3, with the possible exception of FRM.

Why first stage is always about garbage removal? For example what about people who already run AM twice,  or OF 6 month, or EPRHA 6 month, are the garbage removal process still necessary for staged 5.75.7G? Why not aim for the big guns right from the beginning, like manifestation beam that shot random luckiness and abundance there and there? In the end it's up to you, just curious. Thank you very much.

Who will have the better house?  The one who prepares and builds a foundation, then the walls, then the roof, then tiles the floors and adds shingles to the roof, or the one who builds the walls and roof and then tries to build a foundation under it, or worse, no foundation at all?

Garbage removal comes first because without it, the rest fails.  Everything must be done in the right order, which is dictated by what you are ready for.  "Big Guns" only cause big issues if you're not ready for them.  Just ask the guys who tried to skip AM6 Stages 1-6 and jump right into Stage 7.  Or the ones who just did AM6 Stage 3 right off the bat.

If it was possible to just jump right in with the big guns, it would have meant I only had to make Stage 7.  Why on earth would I spend the time and energy and frustration to build Stages 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6?  I could have charged the same thing if the result was the same, and saved myself months and months of effort, which I could have turned around and spent building other titles.

There is always a good reason for what I do.

Garbage removal gets rid of faulty beliefs.  These beliefs are why you are where you are, and why you are using the program in the first place.  It is those beliefs that also result in the fears that hold you where you are, and which cause you to try to resist any changes.  Without garbage removal, the house is built on sand, and will fall.  Then everyone comes after me because the sub didn't work, and they blame me, and want their money back.  I'm not a charity.  I want to help people, but I also want to help myself pay the bills and pay for research and development and experiments and food and taxes.  That doesn't happen when there are too many refunds because the program didn't work.  So we have to make sure the program works, and the first step to that is... first, deal with what caused the issue you're trying to solve in the first place.

Garbage removal.

That clears the path to taking the next step, and the next, and the next.
(05-25-2021, 08:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 04:01 AM)Qiel Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-24-2021, 10:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2021, 10:01 PM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]About OF V3: I won't do a journal here, I didn't think there is anything to report before the 3 month mark and even if it is, it might be too "normalized" and I wouldn't see it. But on day 5 I already saw myself changing behavior and acting more quickly. I'm not sure if it is a one time only or something like that but I was positively surprised to see that. Thumbs up for that!
On the website it is a little strangely written in the beginning note with "If you have purchased a copy of Overcoming Fear Version 2, buying this version of the program before you have used Version 1 for at least 8 months straight" doesn't make sense. It talks about a bought version 2 and the usage of version 1 which isn't necessarily possible. I think you meant 2.

About UMS2: Is it going to be a 4-stage-set or a 3-stage-set? Since the 6-stagers also have a refresher stage (7) and are not called 7-stage-sets, what makes UMS2 a 4-stage-set? How will stage 4 be different to a stage 7 from AM/WM/SM?

Thanks for pointing that out.  I'll change it in a bit.

UMS v2 will be a 3+1 stage set.  Stage 4 will be "the whole script", but it may have one piece missing from Stages 1, 2 and 3 depending on what the models tell me.  That piece is the FRM.  It may be that we do better to leave it out of Stage 4, so that we can use stages 1-2-3 again and again until we don't need it, and then use Stage 4 without it.  If that is the case, Stage 4 will be everything but FRM.  If not, it will be everything in stages 1-2-3.

"6 stagers" are properly called 6+1 stage sets, because the last "stage" is really the goal of the first six.  It's the goal and the refresher, with the stages being steps to that goal.  Thus, it's technically not a stage.  And, we don't charge for the goal/refresher "stage" if you buy the whole set at once.

Stage 1 will primarily deal with clearing garbage beliefs and fear, and setting a basic foundation.  Stage 2 will continue removing fear and garbage beliefs and build on that foundation.  Stage 3 will only have fear removal, and not be trying to remove garbage thoughts.  It will build further on the Stage 2 foundation and give you "the rest of what you need".  As I said before, Stage 4 will be everything in Stages 1-2-3, with the possible exception of FRM.

Why first stage is always about garbage removal? For example what about people who already run AM twice,  or OF 6 month, or EPRHA 6 month, are the garbage removal process still necessary for staged 5.75.7G? Why not aim for the big guns right from the beginning, like manifestation beam that shot random luckiness and abundance there and there? In the end it's up to you, just curious. Thank you very much.

Who will have the better house?  The one who prepares and builds a foundation, then the walls, then the roof, then tiles the floors and adds shingles to the roof, or the one who builds the walls and roof and then tries to build a foundation under it, or worse, no foundation at all?

Garbage removal comes first because without it, the rest fails.  Everything must be done in the right order, which is dictated by what you are ready for.  "Big Guns" only cause big issues if you're not ready for them.  Just ask the guys who tried to skip AM6 Stages 1-6 and jump right into Stage 7.  Or the ones who just did AM6 Stage 3 right off the bat.

If it was possible to just jump right in with the big guns, it would have meant I only had to make Stage 7.  Why on earth would I spend the time and energy and frustration to build Stages 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 & 6?  I could have charged the same thing if the result was the same, and saved myself months and months of effort, which I could have turned around and spent building other titles.

There is always a good reason for what I do.

Garbage removal gets rid of faulty beliefs.  These beliefs are why you are where you are, and why you are using the program in the first place.  It is those beliefs that also result in the fears that hold you where you are, and which cause you to try to resist any changes.  Without garbage removal, the house is built on sand, and will fall.  Then everyone comes after me because the sub didn't work, and they blame me, and want their money back.  I'm not a charity.  I want to help people, but I also want to help myself pay the bills and pay for research and development and experiments and food and taxes.  That doesn't happen when there are too many refunds because the program didn't work.  So we have to make sure the program works, and the first step to that is... first, deal with what caused the issue you're trying to solve in the first place.

Garbage removal.

That clears the path to taking the next step, and the next, and the next.

Alright, that's 100% clear up my curiosity. Make sense. And to the point. Garbage removal indeed very important.
Shannon,

How is it going with UMS v2 stage 1? What are you currently working on?

I have purchased v2 the entire set. Shortly after that, UMS v1 helped me to make double the amount I paid for v2. Pretty awesome stuff
(05-25-2021, 08:40 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

How is it going with UMS v2 stage 1? What are you currently working on?

I have purchased v2 the entire set. Shortly after that, UMS v1 helped me to make double the amount I paid for v2. Pretty awesome stuff

Hey, great news!  

Right now I am working not on Stage 1, but on Stage 4.  Stage 4 is the script from which stages 1, 2 and 3 will be extracted.  I'm working out how to configure the set, so I don't have to spend 4x as long doing configuration work.  Not very exciting to talk about, but my job is rarely exciting to talk about...

I wonder if that double the amount you paid for v2 wasn't TID from v2?  Have you ever had v1 do things like that for you before?
(05-25-2021, 08:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 08:40 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

How is it going with UMS v2 stage 1? What are you currently working on?

I have purchased v2 the entire set. Shortly after that, UMS v1 helped me to make double the amount I paid for v2. Pretty awesome stuff

Hey, great news!  

Right now I am working not on Stage 1, but on Stage 4.  Stage 4 is the script from which stages 1, 2 and 3 will be extracted.  I'm working out how to configure the set, so I don't have to spend 4x as long doing configuration work.  Not very exciting to talk about, but my job is rarely exciting to talk about...

I wonder if that double the amount you paid for v2 wasn't TID from v2?  Have you ever had v1 do things like that for you before?

USLM v4.2 doubled my salary in real life. I thought it's common thing. But I'm observing people don't talk much when it's about manifestation or money stuff here (USLM and UMS; silent is golden, eh). That's why I don't tell a things too.
(05-25-2021, 08:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 08:40 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

How is it going with UMS v2 stage 1? What are you currently working on?

I have purchased v2 the entire set. Shortly after that, UMS v1 helped me to make double the amount I paid for v2. Pretty awesome stuff

Hey, great news!  

Right now I am working not on Stage 1, but on Stage 4.  Stage 4 is the script from which stages 1, 2 and 3 will be extracted.  I'm working out how to configure the set, so I don't have to spend 4x as long doing configuration work.  Not very exciting to talk about, but my job is rarely exciting to talk about...

I wonder if that double the amount you paid for v2 wasn't TID from v2?  Have you ever had v1 do things like that for you before?

No, UMS v1 hardly made me make these effortless money in the past. But running subs that have fear removal like OF and AOL made my current run of UMS is a success so far. It could very well be TDI from UMS 2 too, but I feel UMSv1 also working to make me these great cash
(05-25-2021, 09:00 AM)Qiel Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 08:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 08:40 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,

How is it going with UMS v2 stage 1? What are you currently working on?

I have purchased v2 the entire set. Shortly after that, UMS v1 helped me to make double the amount I paid for v2. Pretty awesome stuff

Hey, great news!  

Right now I am working not on Stage 1, but on Stage 4.  Stage 4 is the script from which stages 1, 2 and 3 will be extracted.  I'm working out how to configure the set, so I don't have to spend 4x as long doing configuration work.  Not very exciting to talk about, but my job is rarely exciting to talk about...

I wonder if that double the amount you paid for v2 wasn't TID from v2?  Have you ever had v1 do things like that for you before?

USLM v4.2 doubled my salary in real life. I thought it's common thing. But I'm observing people don't talk much when it's about manifestation or money stuff here (USLM and UMS; silent is golden, eh). That's why I don't tell a things too.

It's a common thing when people execute.  But for a lot of people, fear prevents execution.  That's why FRM 5.0/OFv3 and 5.75.7G is so exciting.
I'm planning to do 6 months with OF then start using UMS, thinking of purchasing the UMS pre-order, but is there any chance that there will be a new version of UMS after this one in the next say 6-8 months?
wow what a well thought out, articulate & epic response. Exactly what I needed to hear. 

And you're right about the being your own cheerleader / biggest fan. I know i'm not perfect right now but I came a LONG way in the last year & that's why I'm so happy and proud of myself, because I know that I will get even better and better and that this is just the beginning of my journey. The stuff I made before was super cringe and really bad but I managed to never give up, continue to write and freestyle almost everyday and get better and better. 

I really do strive to make masterpieces, that my goal, and I want to change lives and help people who are in need of help through music. as well as using the influence and money I will make to help change the world.

I am really excited for my journey and the progress I've made and will continue to make. One thing I like about myself in regards to my music is that I haven't limited myself or been trapped in a creative box, every song I make is COMPLETELY different then the others. Different beats, different content, different vibe completely.

I want to not be limited in that way and be able to make whatever I want. I'm currently focusing on beat production, and learning to mix/master/engineer my own music, I have six years experience making Trance which generated 9k views on my songs on Soundcloud from many years ago. 

I have some experience mastering/producing. But new to Hip Hop Production. I realized for me to become successful I need to rely on myself & becoming an engineer will allow me to produce more music, faster and "if you want something done right, do it yourself" I'm an introvert so I prefer working alone.

Thanks I'm really excited for the program Big Grin

(05-24-2021, 05:32 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-24-2021, 01:51 PM)Raykon Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon what’s your definition of masterpiece in regards to subliminal? And what do you think a master piece would be in regards to music? (You don’t have to answer the second question if your too busy or think it’s not relevant, I’m being a little selfish by asking but I respect your input and knowledge and can use it for my benefit.


Let's just define a "masterpiece", because the word's definition will apply to anything you use it to describe.  My definition is a work that requires a master of that craft to create, which is either (flawless or very close to it) or (which incorporates imperfections for the purpose of using those imperfections to break the normal rules of creation in a way that in some way makes for a better end result), and which fully accomplishes the goals that the creator set out to achieve by creating it. 

Quote:Also a friendly reminder to work on NSLW as well and to take your time if needed but please don’t let me down, My future success and chance of success is highly dependent on that program , as well as my own hard work and consistency and dedication. I’m been improving tremendously over the last year and I feel like I’m getting very close to that level of professionalism and creative quality that would allow me to get allot of fans and become a well known artist. My singing is way better then before and I think overcome fear may have something to do with it however I still believe it’s TID because my level of creativity  & flow in my freestyles is WAY better then before.

If you or anyone here is interested in checking out where I’m at with my freestyle ability now, here is a Work in progress (not studio quality) that I recorded with my iPhone (never went to studio with this yet), the song is about romance love and sex (women) https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/iMvGXAWNsVhVa3Tt5

If you don't want to listen to the song, this is one of the lines I really like. This came out in a freestyle and I had not pre planned or had these words/thoughts in my head prior. It came out spontaneously. I created it literally in the moment, I love freestyling for that reason, beautiful things can happen"

"I've left behind, all the demons in my mind, but they keep, sneaking back, tryna creep, tryna cheat, on the angel that I got on my shoulder
I ain't tryna go back, to my old ways , that's what I, told her. <> I be dancin with I'm kissin her lips, kissin her lips she's getting frisky
I'm lovin the way that she tastes and the, way  that shes movin her hips" (it sounds better when you hear it, because the flow is a little difficult to read if you havent heard the song)

My good man, I want you to remember that no matter what, you already have all that you need to become great and succeed mightily.  You don't need my help.  What you do need is to believe in yourself regardless of what anyone else says or does, and have the courage to face criticism with humility.  Use it to become better than you are.  And remember that most people will not be brutally honest with you.  Understand that perfection is a goal and a journey, one that is worth seeking and undertaking not because you can achieve it, but because you can't.  There is always something more to improve and grow, and that process is a joy all of it's own.

I can help you, make it easier for you, make it faster... but you don't need me.  I appreciate you letting me help you though.  And worry not, I have been working on it.

One thing, though.  Your written lyrics have reference to a certain name that breaks rule 4.  If you could correct that I'd appreciate it.

When it comes down to it, you have to be your cheerleader, your believer, your biggest fan and helping hand.  Nobody will believe in you until you do, until you show them why they should.  Never rely on anyone or anything outside yourself to enable or give you your success, because that's how you artificially and unnecessarily limit yourself and your potential and success.  If it's within you, it's not because I put it there.  Never forget that, because there will be times when nobody else believes in you - or it will feel like that.  Focus, determination, perseverance and refusal to stop trying and improving... that is what you need.  I can only help.
(05-25-2021, 11:20 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: [ -> ]I'm planning to do 6 months with OF then start using UMS, thinking of purchasing the UMS pre-order, but is there any chance that there will be a new version of UMS after this one in the next say 6-8 months?

UMS v2 is 5.75.7G, which is very slow, complicated and difficult to build as a single stage program.  But this is a 4 stage program, which makes building it something like an order of magnitude harder and slower.  I am not willing to do any more multi-stagers because of this.  I had already committed to 4 stage with UMS, or I would be building it as a single stage too.

I don't want to rebuild it again any time soon after this, either.  I would love it if I didn't need to build this again for the next 3-6 years at least.  That's my goal.  

Finally, I have too much else to do.  I can't develop certain aspects of the skeleton script for 6G completion while I am building subs.  That means that at some point, I have to stop building subs and work on bringing the skeleton script up to what it needs to be to release 6G.

So there's no chance that UMS will be going to v3 any time soon.  Worry not.
(05-25-2021, 11:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 11:20 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: [ -> ]I'm planning to do 6 months with OF then start using UMS, thinking of purchasing the UMS pre-order, but is there any chance that there will be a new version of UMS after this one in the next say 6-8 months?

UMS v2 is 5.75.7G, which is very slow, complicated and difficult to build as a single stage program.  But this is a 4 stage program, which makes building it something like an order of magnitude harder and slower.  I am not willing to do any more multi-stagers because of this.  I had already committed to 4 stage with UMS, or I would be building it as a single stage too.

I don't want to rebuild it again any time soon after this, either.  I would love it if I didn't need to build this again for the next 3-6 years at least.  That's my goal.  

Finally, I have too much else to do.  I can't develop certain aspects of the skeleton script for 6G completion while I am building subs.  That means that at some point, I have to stop building subs and work on bringing the skeleton script up to what it needs to be to release 6G.

So there's no chance that UMS will be going to v3 any time soon.  Worry not.

Duly noted, thanks. Will you announce before the pre-order will be replaced by the standard one?
(05-25-2021, 12:33 PM)Johannesbrst Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 11:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-25-2021, 11:20 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: [ -> ]I'm planning to do 6 months with OF then start using UMS, thinking of purchasing the UMS pre-order, but is there any chance that there will be a new version of UMS after this one in the next say 6-8 months?

UMS v2 is 5.75.7G, which is very slow, complicated and difficult to build as a single stage program.  But this is a 4 stage program, which makes building it something like an order of magnitude harder and slower.  I am not willing to do any more multi-stagers because of this.  I had already committed to 4 stage with UMS, or I would be building it as a single stage too.

I don't want to rebuild it again any time soon after this, either.  I would love it if I didn't need to build this again for the next 3-6 years at least.  That's my goal.  

Finally, I have too much else to do.  I can't develop certain aspects of the skeleton script for 6G completion while I am building subs.  That means that at some point, I have to stop building subs and work on bringing the skeleton script up to what it needs to be to release 6G.

So there's no chance that UMS will be going to v3 any time soon.  Worry not.

Duly noted, thanks. Will you announce before the pre-order will be replaced by the standard one?

No, but I will announce before any price changes.
I feel the DRS power in OFv3 can't counteract the gaslighting directed at me from someone. I feeling the energy is very destructive and different from what DRS did in OFv2 because I was not affected by this completely. Is there really a reduction in power in the DRS module / is there something else that causes DRS to not work optimally? Oh yes, I can still feel the energy of anger, even though there is no physical contact with me (this happened 5 days ago)
Quote:I can't develop certain aspects of the skeleton script for 6G completion while I am building subs. That means that at some point, I have to stop building subs and work on bringing the skeleton script up to what it needs to be to release 6G.
Just throwing the following out there, I haven’t even thought about the details.

Would you consider selling some kind of monthly pre-pay/saving plan toward gen 6? A fixed income for you, maybe a discount or some bonus for us… win win.
It seems to me that it would be very hard for you to find the time to develop gen 6 otherwise.
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