(03-01-2021, 02:03 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 12:32 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, how are the 3 new ARTs coming along? Any other news since then? That was an intriguing development. Seems like 5.75.7G exists now with those invented, fantastic.
Excellent questions Catman,excellent.....Yes Shannon,as the saying goes,"inquiring minds would like to know"
I don't know how I didn't see CM's post. Well, they're in process, still looking promising. I think they will be what brings us to 5.75.7G. I guess we weren't at 5.75.6G as long as I thought.
There's also other things I'm working on that are definitely going to improve DMSI. My efforts in that direction are paying off handsomely.
(03-01-2021, 05:56 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 02:03 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 12:32 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, how are the 3 new ARTs coming along? Any other news since then? That was an intriguing development. Seems like 5.75.7G exists now with those invented, fantastic.
Excellent questions Catman,excellent.....Yes Shannon,as the saying goes,"inquiring minds would like to know"
I don't know how I didn't see CM's post. Well, they're in process, still looking promising. I think they will be what brings us to 5.75.7G. I guess we weren't at 5.75.6G as long as I thought.
There's also other things I'm working on that are definitely going to improve DMSI. My efforts in that direction are paying off handsomely.
Will any of these new titles,even one of them,be out sometime in the Month of March???
Im curious as hell to see what they maybe....I am holding back on a possible purchase of either, one of the newest titles that ur current working on Shannon, and if not one of those,then OFv2 or MLS 5.74.6....interesting month for subs and progress there of, in these directions.
Oh and Shannon MLS is damn impressive with even an more powerfiul fear Remover 4.9 & more. Gosh, what ta do!!??.
(03-01-2021, 07:44 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 05:56 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 02:03 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 12:32 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, how are the 3 new ARTs coming along? Any other news since then? That was an intriguing development. Seems like 5.75.7G exists now with those invented, fantastic.
Excellent questions Catman,excellent.....Yes Shannon,as the saying goes,"inquiring minds would like to know"
I don't know how I didn't see CM's post. Well, they're in process, still looking promising. I think they will be what brings us to 5.75.7G. I guess we weren't at 5.75.6G as long as I thought.
There's also other things I'm working on that are definitely going to improve DMSI. My efforts in that direction are paying off handsomely.
Will any of these new titles,even one of them,be out sometime in the Month of March???
Im curious as hell to see what they maybe....I am holding back on a possible purchase of either, one of the newest titles that ur curreny working on Shannon, and if not one of those,then OFv2 or MLS 5.74.6....interesting month for subs and progress there of in these directions,Shannon.
Oh and Shannon MLS is damn impressive with even an more powerfiul fear Remover 4.9 & more. Gosh, what ta do!!??.
I'm working on two different programs right now. Both are almost finished with script work. I'm actually behind schedule, one was supposed to start build yesterday. I'm going to try to start build today. There is at least one more after that in the queue which, once this first one in the series is finished, should be a relatively rapid job.
They're coming very soon. And they're going to benefit a lot of things in a lot of ways.
(03-02-2021, 10:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 07:44 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 05:56 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 02:03 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 12:32 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, how are the 3 new ARTs coming along? Any other news since then? That was an intriguing development. Seems like 5.75.7G exists now with those invented, fantastic.
Excellent questions Catman,excellent.....Yes Shannon,as the saying goes,"inquiring minds would like to know"
I don't know how I didn't see CM's post. Well, they're in process, still looking promising. I think they will be what brings us to 5.75.7G. I guess we weren't at 5.75.6G as long as I thought.
There's also other things I'm working on that are definitely going to improve DMSI. My efforts in that direction are paying off handsomely.
Will any of these new titles,even one of them,be out sometime in the Month of March???
Im curious as hell to see what they maybe....I am holding back on a possible purchase of either, one of the newest titles that ur curreny working on Shannon, and if not one of those,then OFv2 or MLS 5.74.6....interesting month for subs and progress there of in these directions,Shannon.
Oh and Shannon MLS is damn impressive with even an more powerfiul fear Remover 4.9 & more. Gosh, what ta do!!??.
I'm working on two different programs right now. Both are almost finished with script work. I'm actually behind schedule, one was supposed to start build yesterday. I'm going to try to start build today. There is at least one more after that in the queue which, once this first one in the series is finished, should be a relatively rapid job.
They're coming very soon. And they're going to benefit a lot of things in a lot of ways.
Sweet,sweet...like Tupelo Honey!!
(03-02-2021, 10:57 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021, 10:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 07:44 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 05:56 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 02:03 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] Excellent questions Catman,excellent.....Yes Shannon,as the saying goes,"inquiring minds would like to know"
I don't know how I didn't see CM's post. Well, they're in process, still looking promising. I think they will be what brings us to 5.75.7G. I guess we weren't at 5.75.6G as long as I thought.
There's also other things I'm working on that are definitely going to improve DMSI. My efforts in that direction are paying off handsomely.
Will any of these new titles,even one of them,be out sometime in the Month of March???
Im curious as hell to see what they maybe....I am holding back on a possible purchase of either, one of the newest titles that ur curreny working on Shannon, and if not one of those,then OFv2 or MLS 5.74.6....interesting month for subs and progress there of in these directions,Shannon.
Oh and Shannon MLS is damn impressive with even an more powerfiul fear Remover 4.9 & more. Gosh, what ta do!!??.
I'm working on two different programs right now. Both are almost finished with script work. I'm actually behind schedule, one was supposed to start build yesterday. I'm going to try to start build today. There is at least one more after that in the queue which, once this first one in the series is finished, should be a relatively rapid job.
They're coming very soon. And they're going to benefit a lot of things in a lot of ways.
Sweet,sweet...like Tupelo Honey!!
As it turns out, there are a few things I have to calculate for how to configure Platinum Lake on this particular build that are going to make that previous statement wrong. I forgot that I still have to do these. May take a day, may take a week. I'll get it finished as fast as I can do it properly, and then I should be able to publish the first two programs in the series.
(03-02-2021, 01:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021, 10:57 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021, 10:15 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 07:44 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (03-01-2021, 05:56 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know how I didn't see CM's post. Well, they're in process, still looking promising. I think they will be what brings us to 5.75.7G. I guess we weren't at 5.75.6G as long as I thought.
There's also other things I'm working on that are definitely going to improve DMSI. My efforts in that direction are paying off handsomely.
Will any of these new titles,even one of them,be out sometime in the Month of March???
Im curious as hell to see what they maybe....I am holding back on a possible purchase of either, one of the newest titles that ur curreny working on Shannon, and if not one of those,then OFv2 or MLS 5.74.6....interesting month for subs and progress there of in these directions,Shannon.
Oh and Shannon MLS is damn impressive with even an more powerfiul fear Remover 4.9 & more. Gosh, what ta do!!??.
I'm working on two different programs right now. Both are almost finished with script work. I'm actually behind schedule, one was supposed to start build yesterday. I'm going to try to start build today. There is at least one more after that in the queue which, once this first one in the series is finished, should be a relatively rapid job.
They're coming very soon. And they're going to benefit a lot of things in a lot of ways.
Sweet,sweet...like Tupelo Honey!!
As it turns out, there are a few things I have to calculate for how to configure Platinum Lake on this particular build that are going to make that previous statement wrong. I forgot that I still have to do these. May take a day, may take a week. I'll get it finished as fast as I can do it properly, and then I should be able to publish the first two programs in the series.
Excellent approach. I figured it'll be a few weeks into March anyway. Thank You for the update. more power to ya.
(02-25-2021, 04:34 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2021, 12:44 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2021, 07:21 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2021, 06:44 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]I can tell you my experience with the previous MLS, and the current one will be an extension so it should be helpful.
On MLS you'll have a deep desire to learn about anything you want to, and studying will come in any form that is useful to what you're trying to learn. If you want to box for example, I found that my ability to mirror good boxers body movement and and practice their techniques enhanced greatly, I would naturally slip into a place where I would watch and emulate without even consciously deciding to (like I was in a trance like concentration), and automatically become better.
You'll be able to connect dots and create mental models in a way which allows you to not only learn something, but learn it quickly and efficiently, and that skill in developing mental models/connecting dots is hyper useful in any mental domain. For trading you'll find you can visualise price movements and how different types of moving averages will move in line with those movements (something that I found I was able to do when I was on it previously). You will absolutely recognise patterns, solve problems and learn from mistakes - on the last point you'll actually remember mistakes you'd forgotten and wonder how you ever made them since the mistake was so obvious .
The main problem i ended up with was sticking with a couple of things and not tyring to learn absolutely everything. I also self sabotaged through over eating, stonewalling and other things which i won't get into.
If you manage to not self sabotage in some way then when this works it's like the world becomes an interesting place of possibility and there's no real mental limit on what you can learn/do.
Sh!t dude - thats amazing.. I use price and moving averages.. and would love to box too.. thanks bro..
Did this happen quickly or only after you finished the program? also, how is your learning ability now? I mean can you still box or trade the stuff you "learnt" while on the program?
The abilities improved over the course of the programme; with motivation to learn coming immediately as well as an increase in intelligence which became very clear at work. I ran into problems though as i clearly started self sabotaging. For example I have an intolerance to gluten and wheat which when I eat them turn me into a zombie and I went from a completely gluten/wheat free and sugar free diet to indulging in these all the time; so the results were not consistent. I also started not doing the course according to specifications, missing days etc. This was my resistance and I put it down to -
(1) a fear of being powerful. having this ability made me feel unconstrained and i didn't know how to handle it
(2) fear of loss of control. similar to the above, but the change was very significant and made me feel out of control of what was happening
(3) ego identification. The improvement in intelligence was delicious for my ego, and I became very involved with the 'idea' or 'identity' of being a smart person, again this was a change in who I was which I resisted.
This isn't IML advice, so if Ben/Shannon want me to remove it I can but I found a personal journal helps where you ask yourself a few questions. The questions that help me are
- Why do I not want to achieve the goals of the programme?
- What do I gain from not achieving the goals of the programme?
- What do I lose from achieving the goals of the programme?
- How real are these reasons, are they worth not achieving the goals of the programme?
- Can I accept the consequences of executing the programme?
The above is surprisingly difficult to do, I've found some painful negative beliefs about myself and the world which don't have much basis in reality but are none the less hard to shift. Again this is just personal experience and nothing to do with advice from IML.
As regards practicing what I learned, I started USLM after MLS which is a long story of misadventure so in short no. At the time, I had a coach teaching me trading who couldn't get over how quickly i was absorbing information and thought I had some form of psychic ability and wanted to work with me. At the end of the course I'd stopped using MLS and he was shocked because I was no longer demonstrating what I had, he kept asking me what happened and was genuinely sad because he thought he'd found a valuable business partner.
Basically if you do MLS according to instructions and take some steps to get out of your own way, there's no reason to not experience all of the results whilst using it. I don't have experience of results post the sub.
One thing I'd like to point out is that this is exactly what I was working on correcting in MLS 4.0. That's why it has a heavy dose of FRM and uses DRS. It's designed to improve on everything V3 did well, and correct everything it did not do well. It actually has more focus on FRM than OF v2, which was quite a shock to see coming out of the models again, and again, and again... I have only ever seen that happen one other time, and that was with a sub focused on sex. There is a lot of fear involved in getting to sex and achieving one's full potential.
So don't think you need to do OF before MLS 4. MLS 4 should take care of that for you.
Hi @
Shannon I havent been on for a while and read your above reply regarding MLS having more FRM then OFv2.
As you may recall, my reasons for starting with ILM subs in 2015 was to overcome my procrastination (& subsequent fears) surrounding learning and particularly academic learning (as im a mature student in university).
I am currently about to start my 9th cycle of OFv2, thus my 9th week, reducing the volume to 7/15 for this 9th cycle using US if you recall via my s10 samsung phone.
So far I havent felt or noticed any change or difference whatsoever, and would continue to go as low as 3/15 as you mentioned may be needed for some folks.
I having read what you said regarding a stronger/better/improved FRM (if I understood correctly) being in MLS and having read that MLS also deals with procrastination and lack of focus and motivation around studying as well as fear (anxiety, stress etc) based upon learning makes me now wonder shall I change to MLS?
I did 45 days of OFv1 then bought and changed to OFv2 as i am committed to actually get executing with your subs and get over my issues. So what do you suggest and advise please?
If you do suggest I change to MLS, then how shall I considering ill be in a the 9th cycle of OFv2, ie: Do i need some time off before starting MLS etc?
Im just really trying here mate, thanks.
(03-02-2021, 04:55 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2021, 04:34 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2021, 12:44 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2021, 07:21 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-24-2021, 06:44 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]I can tell you my experience with the previous MLS, and the current one will be an extension so it should be helpful.
On MLS you'll have a deep desire to learn about anything you want to, and studying will come in any form that is useful to what you're trying to learn. If you want to box for example, I found that my ability to mirror good boxers body movement and and practice their techniques enhanced greatly, I would naturally slip into a place where I would watch and emulate without even consciously deciding to (like I was in a trance like concentration), and automatically become better.
You'll be able to connect dots and create mental models in a way which allows you to not only learn something, but learn it quickly and efficiently, and that skill in developing mental models/connecting dots is hyper useful in any mental domain. For trading you'll find you can visualise price movements and how different types of moving averages will move in line with those movements (something that I found I was able to do when I was on it previously). You will absolutely recognise patterns, solve problems and learn from mistakes - on the last point you'll actually remember mistakes you'd forgotten and wonder how you ever made them since the mistake was so obvious .
The main problem i ended up with was sticking with a couple of things and not tyring to learn absolutely everything. I also self sabotaged through over eating, stonewalling and other things which i won't get into.
If you manage to not self sabotage in some way then when this works it's like the world becomes an interesting place of possibility and there's no real mental limit on what you can learn/do.
Sh!t dude - thats amazing.. I use price and moving averages.. and would love to box too.. thanks bro..
Did this happen quickly or only after you finished the program? also, how is your learning ability now? I mean can you still box or trade the stuff you "learnt" while on the program?
The abilities improved over the course of the programme; with motivation to learn coming immediately as well as an increase in intelligence which became very clear at work. I ran into problems though as i clearly started self sabotaging. For example I have an intolerance to gluten and wheat which when I eat them turn me into a zombie and I went from a completely gluten/wheat free and sugar free diet to indulging in these all the time; so the results were not consistent. I also started not doing the course according to specifications, missing days etc. This was my resistance and I put it down to -
(1) a fear of being powerful. having this ability made me feel unconstrained and i didn't know how to handle it
(2) fear of loss of control. similar to the above, but the change was very significant and made me feel out of control of what was happening
(3) ego identification. The improvement in intelligence was delicious for my ego, and I became very involved with the 'idea' or 'identity' of being a smart person, again this was a change in who I was which I resisted.
This isn't IML advice, so if Ben/Shannon want me to remove it I can but I found a personal journal helps where you ask yourself a few questions. The questions that help me are
- Why do I not want to achieve the goals of the programme?
- What do I gain from not achieving the goals of the programme?
- What do I lose from achieving the goals of the programme?
- How real are these reasons, are they worth not achieving the goals of the programme?
- Can I accept the consequences of executing the programme?
The above is surprisingly difficult to do, I've found some painful negative beliefs about myself and the world which don't have much basis in reality but are none the less hard to shift. Again this is just personal experience and nothing to do with advice from IML.
As regards practicing what I learned, I started USLM after MLS which is a long story of misadventure so in short no. At the time, I had a coach teaching me trading who couldn't get over how quickly i was absorbing information and thought I had some form of psychic ability and wanted to work with me. At the end of the course I'd stopped using MLS and he was shocked because I was no longer demonstrating what I had, he kept asking me what happened and was genuinely sad because he thought he'd found a valuable business partner.
Basically if you do MLS according to instructions and take some steps to get out of your own way, there's no reason to not experience all of the results whilst using it. I don't have experience of results post the sub.
One thing I'd like to point out is that this is exactly what I was working on correcting in MLS 4.0. That's why it has a heavy dose of FRM and uses DRS. It's designed to improve on everything V3 did well, and correct everything it did not do well. It actually has more focus on FRM than OF v2, which was quite a shock to see coming out of the models again, and again, and again... I have only ever seen that happen one other time, and that was with a sub focused on sex. There is a lot of fear involved in getting to sex and achieving one's full potential.
So don't think you need to do OF before MLS 4. MLS 4 should take care of that for you.
Hi @Shannon I havent been on for a while and read your above reply regarding MLS having more FRM then OFv2.
As you may recall, my reasons for starting with ILM subs in 2015 was to overcome my procrastination (& subsequent fears) surrounding learning and particularly academic learning (as im a mature student in university).
I am currently about to start my 9th cycle of OFv2, thus my 9th week, reducing the volume to 7/15 for this 9th cycle using US if you recall via my s10 samsung phone.
So far I havent felt or noticed any change or difference whatsoever, and would continue to go as low as 3/15 as you mentioned may be needed for some folks.
I having read what you said regarding a stronger/better/improved FRM (if I understood correctly) being in MLS and having read that MLS also deals with procrastination and lack of focus and motivation around studying as well as fear (anxiety, stress etc) based upon learning makes me now wonder shall I change to MLS?
I did 45 days of OFv1 then bought and changed to OFv2 as i am committed to actually get executing with your subs and get over my issues. So what do you suggest and advise please?
If you do suggest I change to MLS, then how shall I considering ill be in a the 9th cycle of OFv2, ie: Do i need some time off before starting MLS etc?
Im just really trying here mate, thanks.
Use it all the way through volume 3/15 before you decide what to do.
(03-03-2021, 09:50 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021, 09:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-02-2021, 04:55 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2021, 04:34 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2021, 12:44 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]The abilities improved over the course of the programme; with motivation to learn coming immediately as well as an increase in intelligence which became very clear at work. I ran into problems though as i clearly started self sabotaging. For example I have an intolerance to gluten and wheat which when I eat them turn me into a zombie and I went from a completely gluten/wheat free and sugar free diet to indulging in these all the time; so the results were not consistent. I also started not doing the course according to specifications, missing days etc. This was my resistance and I put it down to -
(1) a fear of being powerful. having this ability made me feel unconstrained and i didn't know how to handle it
(2) fear of loss of control. similar to the above, but the change was very significant and made me feel out of control of what was happening
(3) ego identification. The improvement in intelligence was delicious for my ego, and I became very involved with the 'idea' or 'identity' of being a smart person, again this was a change in who I was which I resisted.
This isn't IML advice, so if Ben/Shannon want me to remove it I can but I found a personal journal helps where you ask yourself a few questions. The questions that help me are
- Why do I not want to achieve the goals of the programme?
- What do I gain from not achieving the goals of the programme?
- What do I lose from achieving the goals of the programme?
- How real are these reasons, are they worth not achieving the goals of the programme?
- Can I accept the consequences of executing the programme?
The above is surprisingly difficult to do, I've found some painful negative beliefs about myself and the world which don't have much basis in reality but are none the less hard to shift. Again this is just personal experience and nothing to do with advice from IML.
As regards practicing what I learned, I started USLM after MLS which is a long story of misadventure so in short no. At the time, I had a coach teaching me trading who couldn't get over how quickly i was absorbing information and thought I had some form of psychic ability and wanted to work with me. At the end of the course I'd stopped using MLS and he was shocked because I was no longer demonstrating what I had, he kept asking me what happened and was genuinely sad because he thought he'd found a valuable business partner.
Basically if you do MLS according to instructions and take some steps to get out of your own way, there's no reason to not experience all of the results whilst using it. I don't have experience of results post the sub.
One thing I'd like to point out is that this is exactly what I was working on correcting in MLS 4.0. That's why it has a heavy dose of FRM and uses DRS. It's designed to improve on everything V3 did well, and correct everything it did not do well. It actually has more focus on FRM than OF v2, which was quite a shock to see coming out of the models again, and again, and again... I have only ever seen that happen one other time, and that was with a sub focused on sex. There is a lot of fear involved in getting to sex and achieving one's full potential.
So don't think you need to do OF before MLS 4. MLS 4 should take care of that for you.
Hi @Shannon I havent been on for a while and read your above reply regarding MLS having more FRM then OFv2.
As you may recall, my reasons for starting with ILM subs in 2015 was to overcome my procrastination (& subsequent fears) surrounding learning and particularly academic learning (as im a mature student in university).
I am currently about to start my 9th cycle of OFv2, thus my 9th week, reducing the volume to 7/15 for this 9th cycle using US if you recall via my s10 samsung phone.
So far I havent felt or noticed any change or difference whatsoever, and would continue to go as low as 3/15 as you mentioned may be needed for some folks.
I having read what you said regarding a stronger/better/improved FRM (if I understood correctly) being in MLS and having read that MLS also deals with procrastination and lack of focus and motivation around studying as well as fear (anxiety, stress etc) based upon learning makes me now wonder shall I change to MLS?
I did 45 days of OFv1 then bought and changed to OFv2 as i am committed to actually get executing with your subs and get over my issues. So what do you suggest and advise please?
If you do suggest I change to MLS, then how shall I considering ill be in a the 9th cycle of OFv2, ie: Do i need some time off before starting MLS etc?
Im just really trying here mate, thanks.
Use it all the way through volume 3/15 before you decide what to do.
Okay thanks @Shannon
And if it does not work, I suggest you wait until 6G comes out to try again - if you want to keep trying.
@
Shannon
Do you think OF V2 will be sufficient to cure stuttering and social anxiety or will that be better served by more specific programs?
(03-03-2021, 11:33 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
Do you think OF V2 will be sufficient to cure stuttering and social anxiety or will that be better served by more specific programs?
I think that OF v2 will be sufficient to correct the symptoms of fear, if it is used properly. Both stuttering and anxiety are just symptoms of an underlying fear being expressed.
(03-03-2021, 11:47 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2021, 11:33 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
Do you think OF V2 will be sufficient to cure stuttering and social anxiety or will that be better served by more specific programs?
I think that OF v2 will be sufficient to correct the symptoms of fear, if it is used properly. Both stuttering and anxiety are just symptoms of an underlying fear being expressed.
@
Shannon
Oh ok. E4 has healed a lot of issues but I think there are some ones that are fear based:
Stuttering
Social anxiety
Trust issues
Fear of failure (and success)
Fear of driving
Hypochrondriac
Will the effects of OF V2 be dramatic or subtle like E4?
No question,
Just wanna say Thank you for all that you do @
Shannon