Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon, if im doing the carpet bombing for dmsi, do you still take the 4 day break after each 8 day cycle or do i just stay on it everyday until i see some results?

I don't know.  The 4 days break is for the instructed usage pattern.  You may want to try observing what happens during your 4 days off, and if something happens, then consider letting it bloom longer or less, according to when the bloom fades.

If you get no results, then we are basically back to...

Either you can't hear it or you're resisting it.

If you're using bone conductor headphones, then the only way you can't hear it is if you're using ultraonic format and the body can't pick that up through bones.  But if I recall correctly, you didn't get results from any format from the bone conductor headphones, suggesting that either:

A) you can't use bone conducting headphones with subliminals at all and have it work, or
B) you're doing a hell of a good job of stonewalling.

[Shannon]

Shannon i really hope Ltu6 comes out soon. I have serious problems with anxiety and would love ARA in LTU. LTU5 has helped me a lot but I’m still troubled by some things. By the way, can you have anxiety for no reason? Like no actual thing you are anxious about but just have an anxious nature? I for example have much more anxiety when being away from home but it subsided when I get home. However I have really bad anxiety in the mornings some times even when at home.

LTU6 will come out when I have the component upgrades ready.  When that is, I don't know.  But... ARA is in LTU5.

You cannot have anxiety for no reason, as Ben has said.  "No apparent reason" just means "subconscious fear that I don't know the cause of".  And as Ben said, a "fearful nature" is basically just a habit of being afraid of everything subconsciously as your coping mechanism.

LTU6 is coming.  Be patient.  I can only go so fast with this stuff.

[Shannon]

What's the deal with LTU6, Shannon? is it in train to be produced? Would it be a free upgrade or something new?

LTU6 is awaiting the development of certain components for upgrade.  It will not be a free upgrade, not only because it is such a huge program, but because the next version will be in 5.75G, which is a generational upgrade, which is never free.

[Shannon]

Could be good yo have an estimation of which subs will be the next one. Maybe there is people waiting and not buying some of then just in case that sub they want to buy will have soon a new version. For example MIR or MHS...

I don't usually know which subs will be built next until I start working on them.  That is because the conditions that affect my choices and options of what the best thing to build next is change so quickly.

Right now I am in the process of actually building GPR-P18 Code Name "Elwood" (the code name tells me which level of power was used in the Magnus Engine, but prevents placebo from the testers and users).  I am also working on SIA 5.75G, Beast 19, a program I'll keep secret for now, MIR v3, a program we'll call "PS3v4", and after those we will probably be working on MHS and an allergy relief program.

My goal is to build GPR-P18 not just for general use or my own occasional cluster headaches, but as help for someone I know who suffers horrible chronic pain from a series of infections that modern medical science doesn't know how to kill yet.

For that same person, I am prioritizing and working on MIRv3 and MHS.  

These three programs, MHS, GPR and MIR, will be combined into a single super-program that is aimed at combating the primary and co-infections that people seem to be getting from tick bites that wreak havoc on their lives.  I know two people who have that problem, and there are hundreds of thousands more in the United States alone.  I'm not expecting that MIR v3 will magically kill all the infections, but it will be a lot more powerful than v2.1, and a lot more capable and complex, and it will show me what else MIR needs to be able to trigger the body to be able to deal with that situation.

So in the near term, we will be focusing on those three and upgrading FRM.

[Shannon]

What's the deal with LTU6, Shannon? is it in train to be produced? Would it be a free upgrade or something new?

Shannon has said it won't be a free upgrade, but details past that he hasn't confirmed. Other than it won't be out for a while yet.

Thanks Ben, and sorry but I can't find the last discussion on this - wasn't there a plan to upgrade UMS?

There is a plan to upgrade UMS 2.0 but Shannon will build programs like MHS, MIR, GPR, USLM 4.2 and maybe another

And I thinh CHA as well, could be great to have an estimation of what and when more less, good for us and good IML. For example someone maybe wants to buy MIR but if this programa is gonna take 3 months or more decides to buy it know or the opposite, maybe he iis going to buy it now, but knowing that maybe in a moth or less will be the new one he will wait and he would not feel that he spend money in a worst way that he would desire if he buy it and just after theres a new one, or he would ask for discount, etc...Anyway i know Shannon doesn't like to give dates, but could be something aprox.

CHA needs a few things to be done to it before I re-build it.  It needs the new skeleton script, the new Magnus Engine and a verification of the key and core scripts.  I'm working on that asap, but I have a lot on my plate too.

MIR3 is mostly finished script-wise.  I just have to verify and build yet.  That is most likely coming after GPR.

[Shannon]

Shannon IM shure you've already thot of this way back when...but…..wouldn't  these types of' things' (that are in DMSI latest version,)really really help folks if these healing moduels or similar were included in E3 or E4-6G? as this quote lifted from PDJunkie's testimonial-quote -
"However, most times this has happened I've awoken feeling refreshed and I feel like wounded parts of my psyche are being or have been resolved. "
Gawd that be awesome to experience parts of one's wounded psyche being healed or already resolved. damn that's some serious technology Beau!!

The things that are doing that are in the skeleton script.  They'll be in E4+.

[Shannon]

Our sleep is detrimental to our memory. How do our ability to form our capacity for memory by using a subliminal which send input to the mind during a time when it’s used to decompose the impressions made during the day?

I would have to say that sleep is what enables your memory.  Without sufficient sleep, your memory will go straight to hell.  So I think you are making a statement there that isn't all of what you were trying to communicate.  Or you have misunderstood something somewhere.

Your question itself is not worded in a way that makes sense, but I'll presume you're asking how using a subliminal affects our ability to form memories while we sleep, if we use a subliminal while we sleep.

There should not be much, if any, effect.  The subconscious has to handle over a million process at a time while we are awake, according to the research I read (no I don't remember where/what it was), and if it can do that and handle one of my 5G+ subs at the same time, then we have plenty of spare capacity.  When you sleep, the number of processes that must be handled is reduced because the conscious mind is "down".  Even more capacity.

So I don't see how it would affect you at all, unless you're using a subliminal that keeps you awake (Awakener) when you need sleep instead, or overloading yourself using too many programs at once.

[Shannon]

@Shannon or anyone who has used the overcoming fear 5G subliminal, how does that sub measure up vs the FRM?

as I know, OF a totaly fear removal "sub", FRM is a module, just removing fears that what is blocking the wanted goal.


I think Shannon could release a 6G or 5.75 OF-OGSF, or a FRM 5.75 that would be nice too!

OF is 5G.  FRM is 5.5 and 5.75G.  That alone means that FRM blows the OF 5G sub out of the water, even though it's "only" a module.  (It's definitely big and complex enough to be a sub all by itself.)  It's not about what FRM is pointed at, it's about how well it works and how comfortably.  OF is not very easy to use and nowhere near as effective as FRM.

I have contemplated building OF/OGSF 5.75G but FRM isn't finished yet.  OF 5.75G would be the key script being the FRM, and aimed at killing ALL fears.

[THolt]

Could be good yo have an estimation of which subs will be the next one. Maybe there is people waiting and not buying some of then just in case that sub they want to buy will have soon a new version. For example MIR or MHS...

I don't usually know which subs will be built next until I start working on them.  That is because the conditions that affect my choices and options of what the best thing to build next is change so quickly.

Right now I am in the process of actually building GPR-P18 Code Name "Elwood" (the code name tells me which level of power was used in the Magnus Engine, but prevents placebo from the testers and users).  I am also working on SIA 5.75G, Beast 19, a program I'll keep secret for now, MIR v3, a program we'll call "PS3v4", and after those we will probably be working on MHS and an allergy relief program.

My goal is to build GPR-P18 not just for general use or my own occasional cluster headaches, but as help for someone I know who suffers horrible chronic pain from a series of infections that modern medical science doesn't know how to kill yet.

For that same person, I am prioritizing and working on MIRv3 and MHS.  

These three programs, MHS, GPR and MIR, will be combined into a single super-program that is aimed at combating the primary and co-infections that people seem to be getting from tick bites that wreak havoc on their lives.  I know two people who have that problem, and there are hundreds of thousands more in the United States alone.  I'm not expecting that MIR v3 will magically kill all the infections, but it will be a lot more powerful than v2.1, and a lot more capable and complex, and it will show me what else MIR needs to be able to trigger the body to be able to deal with that situation.

So in the near term, we will be focusing on those three and upgrading FRM.

Wow. I didn’t realize your queue was that long.  

Is FRM currently V4.9 or have you yet to finish it? 

I’m looking forward to running UMS 2.0 or USLM 4.2 with all this new tech

[Shannon]

FRM is at 4.8. Have had zero chance to work on it yet, although I think I know what needs to be done.

[Have at ye]

FRM is at 4.8. Have had zero chance to work on it yet, although I think I know what needs to be done.

This sounds both ominous and exciting.

[Paul1131]

Hi Shannon, if im doing the carpet bombing for dmsi, do you still take the 4 day break after each 8 day cycle or do i just stay on it everyday until i see some results?

I don't know.  The 4 days break is for the instructed usage pattern.  You may want to try observing what happens during your 4 days off, and if something happens, then consider letting it bloom longer or less, according to when the bloom fades.

If you get no results, then we are basically back to...

Either you can't hear it or you're resisting it.

If you're using bone conductor headphones, then the only way you can't hear it is if you're using ultraonic format and the body can't pick that up through bones.  But if I recall correctly, you didn't get results from any format from the bone conductor headphones, suggesting that either:

A) you can't use bone conducting headphones with subliminals at all and have it work, or
B) you're doing a hell of a good job of stonewalling.

Shannon, I used bone conduction headphones for my last set of loops, and I had no problem hearing the sounds under the masking track, got indicators that the US part was working, got the same type of “sub hangover” as I usually get with high loops of this one, and had some not so subtle indications that it was working during the bloom period.

[josh84]

Hi Shannon, if im doing the carpet bombing for dmsi, do you still take the 4 day break after each 8 day cycle or do i just stay on it everyday until i see some results?

I don't know.  The 4 days break is for the instructed usage pattern.  You may want to try observing what happens during your 4 days off, and if something happens, then consider letting it bloom longer or less, according to when the bloom fades.

If you get no results, then we are basically back to...

Either you can't hear it or you're resisting it.

If you're using bone conductor headphones, then the only way you can't hear it is if you're using ultraonic format and the body can't pick that up through bones.  But if I recall correctly, you didn't get results from any format from the bone conductor headphones, suggesting that either:

A) you can't use bone conducting headphones with subliminals at all and have it work, or
B) you're doing a hell of a good job of stonewalling.

Hi Shannon, ive just completed 8 days of 4-8 plus loops a day with bone conductor headphones with masked track playing, also added ultrasonic while sleeping. Will take the 4 days off, i mentioned in my thread had that one dream yesterday but no external results yet, not sure how im stonewalling but will see about trying hybrid after 4 days off and see if get any better results.

Do you think the bone conductor wired headphones are not allowing the subliminal to work and should go back to normal headphones?

Also i do get tired and sleepy at different stages while listening with bone conductor headphones so im guessing its working atleast in some way with them.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon, if im doing the carpet bombing for dmsi, do you still take the 4 day break after each 8 day cycle or do i just stay on it everyday until i see some results?

I don't know.  The 4 days break is for the instructed usage pattern.  You may want to try observing what happens during your 4 days off, and if something happens, then consider letting it bloom longer or less, according to when the bloom fades.

If you get no results, then we are basically back to...

Either you can't hear it or you're resisting it.

If you're using bone conductor headphones, then the only way you can't hear it is if you're using ultraonic format and the body can't pick that up through bones.  But if I recall correctly, you didn't get results from any format from the bone conductor headphones, suggesting that either:

A) you can't use bone conducting headphones with subliminals at all and have it work, or
B) you're doing a hell of a good job of stonewalling.

Hi Shannon, ive just completed 8 days of 4-8 plus loops a day with bone conductor headphones with masked track playing, also added ultrasonic while sleeping. Will take the 4 days off, i mentioned in my thread had that one dream yesterday but no external results yet, not sure how im stonewalling but will see about trying hybrid after 4 days off and see if get any better results.

Do you think the bone conductor wired headphones are not allowing the subliminal to work and should go back to normal headphones?

Also i do get tired and sleepy at different stages while listening with bone conductor headphones so im guessing its working atleast in some way with them.

Bone conducting headphones are going to be the best way for you to listen.  So it would appear from what you're saying here that you're just stonewalling.