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(07-26-2020, 10:28 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, I’m considering purchasing LTU6 but I’m wondering how radically different it is from LTU5?

Thanks

I’ll semi-hijack your thread because I think my question compounds with yours, I hope you do not mind. 

Will LTU6 contain DRS?
(07-26-2020, 02:40 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-26-2020, 01:07 PM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, What you think about AM7,  do you have any estimated time to building it or I will contuine with OF ?

AM7 is likely quite a while off still, won't be until 6g and it won't be among the first few programs in it.

To give an update...

The plan previously was that 6G would have the first program be Absolute Self Confidence 6G, followed by a high end custom, followed by AM7.

The custom has been cancelled.  Now the most likely outcome is ASC 6G, followed by AM7 being the first two programs in 6G.

I have a rough estimate how long it will take me to finish developing 6G, but even that is a rough estimate, dependant on variables I don't have pinned down.  Before I am finished developing 6G I have the following to do, at minimum:

1. Finish LTU6. (six stages)
2. Finish DMSI 3.3.3.
3. Finish UMS2. (six stages)
4. Develop, build and test Beast 19.
5. Mine the relevant data out of Beast 19, translate it to current skeleton script procedures and finish adding all new technologies to the 6G skeleton script.
6. Perform a complete audit of the entire skeleton script to upgrade and optimize all statements to the same level, and fine tooth comb it for any minor errors in scripting that may have slipped through while adding things from B19.

We are almost finished with scripting Stage 1 of Goal #1, but finishing the entire program will probably take me at least another 18 days.

Goal #2 will probably require 2-6 weeks.  We'll say 4.
Goal #3 will probably require 2-4 weeks.
Goal #4 will probably require 2-3 months.
Goal #5 will probably require 1-2 months.
Goal #6 will probably require 1-3 months.

Now, if we ignore that I need to build new titles to keep the money coming in, and we assume I only take 1 day off a week, then we are looking at a minimum of 3 days to finish scripting and building each of the 6 stages of LTU6 - 18 days; 2 weeks to get Goal 2 out; 2 weeks to get goal 3 out; 2 months for Goal 4; 1 month for Goal 5; and 1 month for Goal 6; that's a total of a minimum of a little over 5.5 months.  If I take 1 day off per week, then we have to add at least 6 more days, making it 5.75 months.  That's if I only do what's on the list, never have a non-productive day, never have to go over the minimum estimates and never build anything else that's on this list.  In other words... pretty unlikely.

More likely is 9 to 15 months as a rough estimate.  If we go with the median, we're probably looking at about a year.

You have time to do all 8 months of OF 5.75G.
(07-27-2020, 09:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]To give an update...

The plan previously was that 6G would have the first program be Absolute Self Confidence 6G, followed by a high end custom, followed by AM7.

The custom has been cancelled.  Now the most likely outcome is ASC 6G, followed by AM7 being the first two programs in 6G.

I have a rough estimate how long it will take me to finish developing 6G, but even that is a rough estimate, dependant on variables I don't have pinned down.  Before I am finished developing 6G I have the following to do, at minimum:

1. Finish LTU6. (six stages)
2. Finish DMSI 3.3.3.
3. Finish UMS2. (six stages)
4. Develop, build and test Beast 19.
5. Mine the relevant data out of Beast 19, translate it to current skeleton script procedures and finish adding all new technologies to the 6G skeleton script.
6. Perform a complete audit of the entire skeleton script to upgrade and optimize all statements to the same level, and fine tooth comb it for any minor errors in scripting that may have slipped through while adding things from B19.

We are almost finished with scripting Stage 1 of Goal #1, but finishing the entire program will probably take me at least another 18 days.

Goal #2 will probably require 2-6 weeks.  We'll say 4.
Goal #3 will probably require 2-4 weeks.
Goal #4 will probably require 2-3 months.
Goal #5 will probably require 1-2 months.
Goal #6 will probably require 1-3 months.

Now, if we ignore that I need to build new titles to keep the money coming in, and we assume I only take 1 day off a week, then we are looking at a minimum of 3 days to finish scripting and building each of the 6 stages of LTU6 - 18 days; 2 weeks to get Goal 2 out; 2 weeks to get goal 3 out; 2 months for Goal 4; 1 month for Goal 5; and 1 month for Goal 6; that's a total of a minimum of a little over 5.5 months.  If I take 1 day off per week, then we have to add at least 6 more days, making it 5.75G months.  That's if I only do what's on the list, never have a non-productive day, never have to go over the minimum estimates and never build anything else that's on this list.  In other words... pretty unlikely.

More likely is 9 to 15 months as a rough estimate.  If we go with the median, we're probably looking at about a year.

You have time to do all 8 months of OF 5.75G.

I see what did there Wink
(07-26-2020, 10:28 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, I’m considering purchasing LTU6 but I’m wondering how radically different it is from LTU5?

Thanks

The differences will be:
  • An upgraded skeleton script.  Might not sound like much, but that is a big deal in this case.  Not only because of what's been added, adjusted and optimized since, but because the "engine" powering LTU6 is tuned much higher in power than the one in LTU5.
  • A small number of additions to the program.  I had a list of 10 ideas for addition.  1 has made it in; 3 have been rejected because they were too big.  The rest have not yet been checked.  These additions are small because we are extremely close to the absolute limit of what can be added while maintaining a functional program, which should be apparent both by the fact that 3 of the 4 checked so far have been too big, and the 1 that made it in is 1 statement.  I'm also pretty sure one of those not yet checked will not make it in for logistical reasons having nothing to do with the amount of script it represents, but maybe I can find a way to make it work.  What these additions are will be revealed when the description pages are published.
  • The Core scripts have been upgraded and completely overhauled.  This actually represents a significant step towards 6G, and this Core script was introduced in OF 5.75G.  I did not realize it at the time I scripted OF 5.75G, but it has a huge positive impact on how well the program as a whole works, and as a result, I am making it standard for the skeleton script.
  • The entire Key script has been upgraded and optimized.  The upgrading is why it's taking so long; each and every statement must be gone through and wherever there is a difference between how I used to create script and how I do now, the difference must be rectified through an addition of appropriate script.  The script is therefore longer, although to help prevent this I have also added some optimizations that reduced the overall script length somewhat.  This part of the job is very tedious, but what is being added is a very major step up in how to get the subconscious to execute.  Something I only came to understand shortly before releasing OF 5.75G. (Yes, it is used in OF 5.75G.)  The optimizations include ways of getting the script to maintain its speed of input while I have had to significantly increase the word count to make the upgrades, and optimizing the grammar in many places to produce better and faster results while also reducing word count.
  • This version will, of course, be a 6 stage set.  Instead of just hitting you with everything at once, it will prepare you for each step, introduce new concepts over time in a step up fashion and prevent the subconscious from becoming bored with anything.
This program is vastly more advanced than LTU5 was.  It will also be significantly more powerful, and much more effective at achieving its goals.  You noticed the difference OF 5.75G brought to the table?  This should be even more than what OF 5.75G did.
(07-27-2020, 12:17 AM)b_woo Wrote: [ -> ]Hello All,

I've been lurking for a wee while now and decided to stick my head up Smile I'd just like to say how cool it is to be part of this community and be surrounded by such good humans who are all here to improve themselves but even better to help others improve too. Big shout out to Keith! I love reading your posts bro, you have an infectious energy and always seem to put a smile on my face!

Well i dove straight in and purchased LTU6 last night. I purchased E3 roughly 3.5 weeks ago and have been running it since. I have had some good results, nothing earth shattering but I can feel myself slowly buy surely becoming in-tune with myself and intuitively knowing what i need to do and why.

My question is, do i stop E3 now and wait for LTU6 (1-1.5 weeks?) and then go from there. Or am i better off finishing out E3 to completion (3 months?) and then jumping into LTU6? I do recall seeing somewhere its good to have 1-2 weeks off between the higher level 5g subs. Also from memory LTU6 contains the new E4? Or I perhaps just somehow made that up?! Smile

The more i get involved in this community and become engaged I become the more i realize this is the right path for me. This community is a credit to you Shannon, I take my hat off to you as it represents all the hard work you have put in for so long.

Thank you all for being so friggin awesome!

Cheers,
Ben.

Thank you, Ben.  Welcome!  Glad you decided to participate.

To answer your question, you can opt to continue using E3 for the full 3 months.  Or, you can stop and take a 1-2 week break before starting LTU6.  Or you can just switch right over.

If I were in your shoes, but I knew what I know as the program creator, the choice would come down to how willing I was to endure the shift from E3 to LTU6.  It's going to be a major shift.  On the one hand, if you feel like you have plenty of energy and you don't mind suddenly shifting gears, jump right in.  It may be a little more jarring, may have a bit of turbulence, but that will pass if you stick with it.

If on the other hand, you think you'd like to be fully rested, then take a week or two off E3 first.

I would switch to LTU6 unless you're happy with what E3 is doing to such a degree that you don't care if you upgrade.  But then, if that were the case, would you have pre-ordered LTU6?
(07-27-2020, 08:51 AM)fab10 Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-26-2020, 10:28 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, I’m considering purchasing LTU6 but I’m wondering how radically different it is from LTU5?

Thanks

I’ll semi-hijack your thread because I think my question compounds with yours, I hope you do not mind. 

Will LTU6 contain DRS?

I'm expecting it to.  I don't see why it wouldn't.  But final say belongs to the models on that.  If I were a betting man, I'd bet good money that it will.
(07-27-2020, 10:07 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2020, 12:17 AM)b_woo Wrote: [ -> ]Hello All,

I've been lurking for a wee while now and decided to stick my head up Smile I'd just like to say how cool it is to be part of this community and be surrounded by such good humans who are all here to improve themselves but even better to help others improve too. Big shout out to Keith! I love reading your posts bro, you have an infectious energy and always seem to put a smile on my face!

Well i dove straight in and purchased LTU6 last night. I purchased E3 roughly 3.5 weeks ago and have been running it since. I have had some good results, nothing earth shattering but I can feel myself slowly buy surely becoming in-tune with myself and intuitively knowing what i need to do and why.

My question is, do i stop E3 now and wait for LTU6 (1-1.5 weeks?) and then go from there. Or am i better off finishing out E3 to completion (3 months?) and then jumping into LTU6? I do recall seeing somewhere its good to have 1-2 weeks off between the higher level 5g subs. Also from memory LTU6 contains the new E4? Or I perhaps just somehow made that up?! Smile

The more i get involved in this community and become engaged I become the more i realize this is the right path for me. This community is a credit to you Shannon, I take my hat off to you as it represents all the hard work you have put in for so long.

Thank you all for being so friggin awesome!

Cheers,
Ben.

Thank you, Ben.  Welcome!  Glad you decided to participate.

To answer your question, you can opt to continue using E3 for the full 3 months.  Or, you can stop and take a 1-2 week break before starting LTU6.  Or you can just switch right over.

If I were in your shoes, but I knew what I know as the program creator, the choice would come down to how willing I was to endure the shift from E3 to LTU6.  It's going to be a major shift.  On the one hand, if you feel like you have plenty of energy and you don't mind suddenly shifting gears, jump right in.  It may be a little more jarring, may have a bit of turbulence, but that will pass if you stick with it.

If on the other hand, you think you'd like to be fully rested, then take a week or two off E3 first.

I would switch to LTU6 unless you're happy with what E3 is doing to such a degree that you don't care if you upgrade.  But then, if that were the case, would you have pre-ordered LTU6?

@Shannon I’m in the predicament with E3 but I plan to run E4 when it comes out. Will I need a rest period before running E4?
(07-27-2020, 10:33 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2020, 10:07 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2020, 12:17 AM)b_woo Wrote: [ -> ]Hello All,

I've been lurking for a wee while now and decided to stick my head up Smile I'd just like to say how cool it is to be part of this community and be surrounded by such good humans who are all here to improve themselves but even better to help others improve too. Big shout out to Keith! I love reading your posts bro, you have an infectious energy and always seem to put a smile on my face!

Well i dove straight in and purchased LTU6 last night. I purchased E3 roughly 3.5 weeks ago and have been running it since. I have had some good results, nothing earth shattering but I can feel myself slowly buy surely becoming in-tune with myself and intuitively knowing what i need to do and why.

My question is, do i stop E3 now and wait for LTU6 (1-1.5 weeks?) and then go from there. Or am i better off finishing out E3 to completion (3 months?) and then jumping into LTU6? I do recall seeing somewhere its good to have 1-2 weeks off between the higher level 5g subs. Also from memory LTU6 contains the new E4? Or I perhaps just somehow made that up?! Smile

The more i get involved in this community and become engaged I become the more i realize this is the right path for me. This community is a credit to you Shannon, I take my hat off to you as it represents all the hard work you have put in for so long.

Thank you all for being so friggin awesome!

Cheers,
Ben.

Thank you, Ben.  Welcome!  Glad you decided to participate.

To answer your question, you can opt to continue using E3 for the full 3 months.  Or, you can stop and take a 1-2 week break before starting LTU6.  Or you can just switch right over.

If I were in your shoes, but I knew what I know as the program creator, the choice would come down to how willing I was to endure the shift from E3 to LTU6.  It's going to be a major shift.  On the one hand, if you feel like you have plenty of energy and you don't mind suddenly shifting gears, jump right in.  It may be a little more jarring, may have a bit of turbulence, but that will pass if you stick with it.

If on the other hand, you think you'd like to be fully rested, then take a week or two off E3 first.

I would switch to LTU6 unless you're happy with what E3 is doing to such a degree that you don't care if you upgrade.  But then, if that were the case, would you have pre-ordered LTU6?

@Shannon I’m in the predicament with E3 but I plan to run E4 when it comes out. Will I need a rest period before running E4?

Since it's the same program, only significantly enhanced, that isn't really necessary.  Unless you want to go from 0-60, instead of 30-60.
(07-27-2020, 11:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2020, 10:33 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2020, 10:07 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-27-2020, 12:17 AM)b_woo Wrote: [ -> ]Hello All,

I've been lurking for a wee while now and decided to stick my head up Smile I'd just like to say how cool it is to be part of this community and be surrounded by such good humans who are all here to improve themselves but even better to help others improve too. Big shout out to Keith! I love reading your posts bro, you have an infectious energy and always seem to put a smile on my face!

Well i dove straight in and purchased LTU6 last night. I purchased E3 roughly 3.5 weeks ago and have been running it since. I have had some good results, nothing earth shattering but I can feel myself slowly buy surely becoming in-tune with myself and intuitively knowing what i need to do and why.

My question is, do i stop E3 now and wait for LTU6 (1-1.5 weeks?) and then go from there. Or am i better off finishing out E3 to completion (3 months?) and then jumping into LTU6? I do recall seeing somewhere its good to have 1-2 weeks off between the higher level 5g subs. Also from memory LTU6 contains the new E4? Or I perhaps just somehow made that up?! Smile

The more i get involved in this community and become engaged I become the more i realize this is the right path for me. This community is a credit to you Shannon, I take my hat off to you as it represents all the hard work you have put in for so long.

Thank you all for being so friggin awesome!

Cheers,
Ben.

Thank you, Ben.  Welcome!  Glad you decided to participate.

To answer your question, you can opt to continue using E3 for the full 3 months.  Or, you can stop and take a 1-2 week break before starting LTU6.  Or you can just switch right over.

If I were in your shoes, but I knew what I know as the program creator, the choice would come down to how willing I was to endure the shift from E3 to LTU6.  It's going to be a major shift.  On the one hand, if you feel like you have plenty of energy and you don't mind suddenly shifting gears, jump right in.  It may be a little more jarring, may have a bit of turbulence, but that will pass if you stick with it.

If on the other hand, you think you'd like to be fully rested, then take a week or two off E3 first.

I would switch to LTU6 unless you're happy with what E3 is doing to such a degree that you don't care if you upgrade.  But then, if that were the case, would you have pre-ordered LTU6?

@Shannon I’m in the predicament with E3 but I plan to run E4 when it comes out. Will I need a rest period before running E4?

Since it's the same program, only significantly enhanced, that isn't really necessary.  Unless you want to go from 0-60, instead of 30-60.

@Shannon

Ah ok 

I figured since you were taking the  gloves off with E4, a break might be a good idea
TID turbulence?

I think I read somewhere about turbulence caused by an interference between the current program and the TID of an upcoming program. I cannot really wrap my head around that concept but I think I might be experiencing it. 

Given the confirmation of the upcoming release and my purchase of LTU6, yesterday was the day I should have decided whether to take a break between E3 and LTU6 and starting when. I did not decide, I am still debating. I started feeling inexplicably exhausted, foggy head, groggy, nauseated and even experienced some diarrhea. Overall discomfort 6 on a scale 1 to 10. Today the nausea is slightly worse, the rest a bit better I think but definitely still there. I never experienced that before, other than some exhaustion.

Could this be TID turbulence? Am I correct in assuming that my best option is to make a hard commitment a.s.a.p. as to when to stop the current program and start the new one?
(07-27-2020, 09:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-26-2020, 02:40 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-26-2020, 01:07 PM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, What you think about AM7,  do you have any estimated time to building it or I will contuine with OF ?

AM7 is likely quite a while off still, won't be until 6g and it won't be among the first few programs in it.

To give an update...

The plan previously was that 6G would have the first program be Absolute Self Confidence 6G, followed by a high end custom, followed by AM7.

The custom has been cancelled.  Now the most likely outcome is ASC 6G, followed by AM7 being the first two programs in 6G.

I have a rough estimate how long it will take me to finish developing 6G, but even that is a rough estimate, dependant on variables I don't have pinned down.  Before I am finished developing 6G I have the following to do, at minimum:

1. Finish LTU6. (six stages)
2. Finish DMSI 3.3.3.
3. Finish UMS2. (six stages)
4. Develop, build and test Beast 19.
5. Mine the relevant data out of Beast 19, translate it to current skeleton script procedures and finish adding all new technologies to the 6G skeleton script.
6. Perform a complete audit of the entire skeleton script to upgrade and optimize all statements to the same level, and fine tooth comb it for any minor errors in scripting that may have slipped through while adding things from B19.



You have time to do all 8 months of OF 5.75G.

Shannon, 
Have you thought about alternating between goal 1,2 and 3?like doing stage one and two of LTU then DMSI then stage 3 and 4 of LTU then stage 1,2 of UMS then finish LTU and finally finish the UMS.?
(07-27-2020, 12:22 PM)fab10 Wrote: [ -> ]TID turbulence?

I think I read somewhere about turbulence caused by an interference between the current program and the TID of an upcoming program. I cannot really wrap my head around that concept but I think I might be experiencing it. 

Given the confirmation of the upcoming release and my purchase of LTU6, yesterday was the day I should have decided whether to take a break between E3 and LTU6 and starting when. I did not decide, I am still debating. I started feeling inexplicably exhausted, foggy head, groggy, nauseated and even experienced some diarrhea. Overall discomfort 6 on a scale 1 to 10. Today the nausea is slightly worse, the rest a bit better I think but definitely still there. I never experienced that before, other than some exhaustion.

Could this be TID turbulence? Am I correct in assuming that my best option is to make a hard commitment a.s.a.p. as to when to stop the current program and start the new one?

I am in the same boat. It suddenly hit me like a train a few days ago (before I even planned to preorder LTU6) leaving me feeling confused. This is definitely TID!! ??
(07-27-2020, 10:02 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-26-2020, 10:28 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, I’m considering purchasing LTU6 but I’m wondering how radically different it is from LTU5?

Thanks

The differences will be:
  • An upgraded skeleton script.  Might not sound like much, but that is a big deal in this case.  Not only because of what's been added, adjusted and optimized since, but because the "engine" powering LTU6 is tuned much higher in power than the one in LTU5.
  • A small number of additions to the program.  I had a list of 10 ideas for addition.  1 has made it in; 3 have been rejected because they were too big.  The rest have not yet been checked.  These additions are small because we are extremely close to the absolute limit of what can be added while maintaining a functional program, which should be apparent both by the fact that 3 of the 4 checked so far have been too big, and the 1 that made it in is 1 statement.  I'm also pretty sure one of those not yet checked will not make it in for logistical reasons having nothing to do with the amount of script it represents, but maybe I can find a way to make it work.  What these additions are will be revealed when the description pages are published.
  • The Core scripts have been upgraded and completely overhauled.  This actually represents a significant step towards 6G, and this Core script was introduced in OF 5.75G.  I did not realize it at the time I scripted OF 5.75G, but it has a huge positive impact on how well the program as a whole works, and as a result, I am making it standard for the skeleton script.
  • The entire Key script has been upgraded and optimized.  The upgrading is why it's taking so long; each and every statement must be gone through and wherever there is a difference between how I used to create script and how I do now, the difference must be rectified through an addition of appropriate script.  The script is therefore longer, although to help prevent this I have also added some optimizations that reduced the overall script length somewhat.  This part of the job is very tedious, but what is being added is a very major step up in how to get the subconscious to execute.  Something I only came to understand shortly before releasing OF 5.75G. (Yes, it is used in OF 5.75G.)  The optimizations include ways of getting the script to maintain its speed of input while I have had to significantly increase the word count to make the upgrades, and optimizing the grammar in many places to produce better and faster results while also reducing word count.
  • This version will, of course, be a 6 stage set.  Instead of just hitting you with everything at once, it will prepare you for each step, introduce new concepts over time in a step up fashion and prevent the subconscious from becoming bored with anything.
This program is vastly more advanced than LTU5 was.  It will also be significantly more powerful, and much more effective at achieving its goals.  You noticed the difference OF 5.75G brought to the table?  This should be even more than what OF 5.75G did.

Thank you for the detailed response. 

Just clarify, what is the status of UM/OP in the new LTU6?

It was taken down from the product page, will it be new and improved in LTU6?

Thank you
Hello all,

Weird question but have you felt like you 'manifest' things a lot faster since you started subs?

For example, you just being angry at someone's behaviour but not expressing it to them still somehow makes them change it even if they are nowhere near you?

Or if you listen to certain kind of music, anything relating to that music just seems to be around you a lot of time?

For example, listen to violet songs for about 20 minutes and you have random people blatantly talking about guns on the phone next to you (in a country where guns are illegal mind you) for the next 3 days or so.

Or listen to a few songs by one artist and just see everyone looking like said artist doing whatever they were singing about in the song?

I think (for me atleast) subs have unlocked a part of me that manifests things a lot faster. Anyone else have this experience? Thanks in advance.
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