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Shannon's quote about MIR!
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The goals of MIR are to cause the immune system to power up and activate in ways that allow it to effectively and successfully detect and destroy ANY infection. Any virus, any bacterium, any yeast, any fungus that the immune system can get to it"


Me: I'm. Soooo grateful this program is being built and that it's even more comprehensive,than the last version!! Including addressing Candida-Alblican!! I'm Shure MIR will be very,very helpful,along with a really good and sound health protocol!! Thank you!!
(03-07-2020, 08:32 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2020, 08:08 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]Does MIR have as one of its goals to protect and prevent the Coronavirus?

No, and questions like that tell me you're not understanding the situation.

The goals of MIR are to cause the immune system to power up and activate in ways that allow it to effectively and successfully detect and destroy ANY infection.  Any virus, any bacterium, any yeast, any fungus that the immune system can get to.

"Corona virus" is a class of viruses.  Within that class of viruses, which are named based on their shape characteristics, are dozens of different strains and sub-strains of viruses, some of which can infect humans, and some of which cannot.

Of those that can infect humans, the COVID-19 (the specific strain you are referring to) is only one example.

It makes no sense at all to target one particular type of virus, or one class of virus, when viruses are by their very nature polymorphic.  They are constantly evolving, changing, developing.  And the family of viruses known as corona viruses is just one family of viruses, and there are many, many other families, each of which has many strains and sub-strains.

When the target is polymorphic, the approach must be non-specific.  That is actually part of the weakness of the immune system, it creates antibodies that are effective against specific viruses, bacteria, etc. and not against new forms.  If you have ever seen Star Trek: Next Generation, where they fight the Borg, they have to use a new attack each and every time, or else  the Borg have adapted their shield to block the attack.  That is what our bodies constantly face - a new attack almost every time, because the bacteria and viruses and such are constantly evolving in order to have a successful way to attack and thus to survive.

So MIR 3 is not targeting COVID-19.  It's targeting EVERYTHING that can attack you.  How well this program works when it's finished, we shall see.  But I know it's going to be significantly better than MIR 2.1, and I know that MIR 2.1 was significantly effective.
Thank you.  BTW I know you are well versed in astrology.  I posted a video in the astrology thread in the chatter box which might interest you.  It's from the best astrologer i have found on youtube.  He breaks down the meaning of the coronavirus through astrology and what impact it will have in the world.  Not to spoil the video but according to him it's an event that will be remembered in the history books hundreds of years from now.  That should tell you everything about what's supposedly coming...

Looking forward to MIR. Will MIR still remain a single person usage subliminal? I'm looking ahead and if things get worse and all hell breaks loose shouldn't this subliminal be maybe changed to a family usage policy? Basically our family being able to use it without breaking privacy code.

I know this will cost you a lot of money but this is assuming all hell breaks loose and people not being able to work and many not being able to buy multiple copies. Again i'm just looking at the all hell breaks loose scenario it's still early but things are changing rapidly. Now i may sound paranoid but a month from now if cities in the U.S. are in lockdown i won't be so crazy then.
(03-07-2020, 07:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Irrational indeed, since neither HIV nor AIDs causes pus filled nodules like the one you describe, and you already had something that it apparently came from before her rubbing it.  IIRC HIV takes several months of incubation to even be possible to detect.  The pus filled nodule likely was a cyst of some sort surrounding something infectious and she either squeezed something out of it or ruptured it while rubbing it, which caused the infection to start to spread, which resulted in a rapid development of a lot of pus until it ruptured and was cleaned out.  It could have started from an infected pore.  But HIV?  That seems pretty far fetched, and it also seems far fetched that you would have done all that research on HIV without realizing that.

Ultimately, you have two choices.  You either protect yourself or you play the lottery with your life.  Given your fearful response, it sounds to me like one part of you is terrified of getting HIV (and it should be), and the other part of you is just stupid.  Of course the head with which you are thinking to have unprotected sex with a woman who has that high a chance of being infected with HIV has no brain in it, so that explains the stupid.  I cannot say I have not done stupid things in the past when I was thinking with the wrong head.  Fortunately, I made it through unscathed, which is actually pretty amazing considering how many times I have been cheated on by my girlfriends.

If you don't do stupid things, you don't need to worry about contracting HIV from having done stupid things, do you.

When you're scared it's hard to realize anything and when you're having sex with a woman for the first time in your life and you trust her a bit you commit foliles. Anyways going back to DMSI. There might be one more reason DMSI is less effective for me. It seems to me it wants to get you right to the point and straight away and when I was young I used to meet women mainly for socializing with them and talking to them and I almost never thought about having sex with them (it's not a joke). Maybe a part of myself just needs to go through a socializing stage first before switching to the sexual one. I mean I need to like her at least a bit to be eager to have sex with her and if I didn't take a liking to her it's a NO-NO for me. That's one of the reasons I don't hire hookers.

WM used to lead me through that stage perfectly, I used to connect with women on social level very fast and then move to bed. Do you think DMSI might be lacking leading you through that social stage and forcing you to get straight to the point?
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(03-07-2020, 10:23 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2020, 08:32 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2020, 08:08 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]Does MIR have as one of its goals to protect and prevent the Coronavirus?

No, and questions like that tell me you're not understanding the situation.

The goals of MIR are to cause the immune system to power up and activate in ways that allow it to effectively and successfully detect and destroy ANY infection.  Any virus, any bacterium, any yeast, any fungus that the immune system can get to.

"Corona virus" is a class of viruses.  Within that class of viruses, which are named based on their shape characteristics, are dozens of different strains and sub-strains of viruses, some of which can infect humans, and some of which cannot.

Of those that can infect humans, the COVID-19 (the specific strain you are referring to) is only one example.

It makes no sense at all to target one particular type of virus, or one class of virus, when viruses are by their very nature polymorphic.  They are constantly evolving, changing, developing.  And the family of viruses known as corona viruses is just one family of viruses, and there are many, many other families, each of which has many strains and sub-strains.

When the target is polymorphic, the approach must be non-specific.  That is actually part of the weakness of the immune system, it creates antibodies that are effective against specific viruses, bacteria, etc. and not against new forms.  If you have ever seen Star Trek: Next Generation, where they fight the Borg, they have to use a new attack each and every time, or else  the Borg have adapted their shield to block the attack.  That is what our bodies constantly face - a new attack almost every time, because the bacteria and viruses and such are constantly evolving in order to have a successful way to attack and thus to survive.

So MIR 3 is not targeting COVID-19.  It's targeting EVERYTHING that can attack you.  How well this program works when it's finished, we shall see.  But I know it's going to be significantly better than MIR 2.1, and I know that MIR 2.1 was significantly effective.
Thank you.  BTW I know you are well versed in astrology.  I posted a video in the astrology thread in the chatter box which might interest you.  It's from the best astrologer i have found on youtube.  He breaks down the meaning of the coronavirus through astrology and what impact it will have in the world.  Not to spoil the video but according to him it's an event that will be remembered in the history books hundreds of years from now.  That should tell you everything about what's supposedly coming...


Looking forward to MIR.  Will MIR still remain a single person usage subliminal? I'm looking ahead and if things get worse and all hell breaks loose shouldn't this subliminal be maybe changed to a family usage policy? Basically our family being able to use it without breaking privacy code.

The current fair use policy is that one person buys one copy and has unlimited right to use that one copy, but anyone else using and benefiting is doing so at the pleasure of the owner of that copy.  A family usage policy is not balancing the equation of value for value in an equal manner, and would be more difficult to enforce through AP code.  So if you want to buy one copy of MIR and benefit your entire family, you can expose them when you expose yourself.  Or, they can buy their own copies. If you want us to stick around, you will pay for the products.  If not, you will not pay for the products.  If I could give them away and still keep everything running, why not?  But I can't.

Quote:I know this will cost you a lot of money but this is assuming all hell breaks loose and people not being able to work and many not being able to buy multiple copies.  Again i'm just looking at the all hell breaks loose scenario it's still early but things are changing rapidly.  Now i may sound paranoid but a month from now if cities in the U.S. are in lockdown i won't be so crazy then.

It's not going to matter anyway, because as I stated above, people will be able to use one copy to expose an entire family.  Quarantine means the whole family will be together.  Problem solved.  Oh, and also, it won't matter because this whole virus thing has been eating our sales alive.  

But then, you're fear mongering here.  If you're really that afraid of COVID-19, download and use the COVID019 disruptor and give it to all tour friends and family who will use it.

Discussion of astrology is done in the astrology thread, not here.  And I hope you haven't posted a video that includes fear mongering, because we will take that down.  I'll view it in a little while.
(03-08-2020, 06:04 AM)Voytek Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2020, 07:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Irrational indeed, since neither HIV nor AIDs causes pus filled nodules like the one you describe, and you already had something that it apparently came from before her rubbing it.  IIRC HIV takes several months of incubation to even be possible to detect.  The pus filled nodule likely was a cyst of some sort surrounding something infectious and she either squeezed something out of it or ruptured it while rubbing it, which caused the infection to start to spread, which resulted in a rapid development of a lot of pus until it ruptured and was cleaned out.  It could have started from an infected pore.  But HIV?  That seems pretty far fetched, and it also seems far fetched that you would have done all that research on HIV without realizing that.

Ultimately, you have two choices.  You either protect yourself or you play the lottery with your life.  Given your fearful response, it sounds to me like one part of you is terrified of getting HIV (and it should be), and the other part of you is just stupid.  Of course the head with which you are thinking to have unprotected sex with a woman who has that high a chance of being infected with HIV has no brain in it, so that explains the stupid.  I cannot say I have not done stupid things in the past when I was thinking with the wrong head.  Fortunately, I made it through unscathed, which is actually pretty amazing considering how many times I have been cheated on by my girlfriends.

If you don't do stupid things, you don't need to worry about contracting HIV from having done stupid things, do you.

When you're scared it's hard to realize anything and when you're having sex with a woman for the first time in your life and you trust her a bit you commit foliles. Anyways going back to DMSI. There might be one more reason DMSI is less effective for me. It seems to me it wants to get you right to the point and straight away and when I was young I used to meet women mainly for socializing with them and talking to them and I almost never thought about having sex with them (it's not a joke). Maybe a part of myself just needs to go through a socializing stage first before switching to the sexual one. I mean I need to like her at least a bit to be eager to have sex with her and if I didn't take a liking to her it's a NO-NO for me. That's one of the reasons I don't hire hookers.

WM used to lead me through that stage perfectly, I used to connect with women on social level very fast and then move to bed. Do you think DMSI might be lacking leading you through that social stage and forcing you to get straight to the point?

So basically you are afraid of disease and you are trying to run a program that is aimed squarely at sex first and foremost when you need something else.  The fear of disease, we can work on with the FRM.  The "DMSI isn't right for my needs" thing, can't do much about that.  Maybe you need to try something else.
By the way, Abundance, today is my day off, so I am going to put your astrology post as "waiting approval", and then tomorrow decide whether or not to approve it. Because what you've said strongly suggests to me potential fear mongering.
(03-08-2020, 08:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2020, 06:04 AM)Voytek Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2020, 07:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Irrational indeed, since neither HIV nor AIDs causes pus filled nodules like the one you describe, and you already had something that it apparently came from before her rubbing it.  IIRC HIV takes several months of incubation to even be possible to detect.  The pus filled nodule likely was a cyst of some sort surrounding something infectious and she either squeezed something out of it or ruptured it while rubbing it, which caused the infection to start to spread, which resulted in a rapid development of a lot of pus until it ruptured and was cleaned out.  It could have started from an infected pore.  But HIV?  That seems pretty far fetched, and it also seems far fetched that you would have done all that research on HIV without realizing that.

Ultimately, you have two choices.  You either protect yourself or you play the lottery with your life.  Given your fearful response, it sounds to me like one part of you is terrified of getting HIV (and it should be), and the other part of you is just stupid.  Of course the head with which you are thinking to have unprotected sex with a woman who has that high a chance of being infected with HIV has no brain in it, so that explains the stupid.  I cannot say I have not done stupid things in the past when I was thinking with the wrong head.  Fortunately, I made it through unscathed, which is actually pretty amazing considering how many times I have been cheated on by my girlfriends.

If you don't do stupid things, you don't need to worry about contracting HIV from having done stupid things, do you.

When you're scared it's hard to realize anything and when you're having sex with a woman for the first time in your life and you trust her a bit you commit foliles. Anyways going back to DMSI. There might be one more reason DMSI is less effective for me. It seems to me it wants to get you right to the point and straight away and when I was young I used to meet women mainly for socializing with them and talking to them and I almost never thought about having sex with them (it's not a joke). Maybe a part of myself just needs to go through a socializing stage first before switching to the sexual one. I mean I need to like her at least a bit to be eager to have sex with her and if I didn't take a liking to her it's a NO-NO for me. That's one of the reasons I don't hire hookers.

WM used to lead me through that stage perfectly, I used to connect with women on social level very fast and then move to bed. Do you think DMSI might be lacking leading you through that social stage and forcing you to get straight to the point?

So basically you are afraid of disease and you are trying to run a program that is aimed squarely at sex first and foremost when you need something else.  The fear of disease, we can work on with the FRM.  The "DMSI isn't right for my needs" thing, can't do much about that.  Maybe you need to try something else.

And if you included the focus on that social stage wouldn't it help in attaining the ultimate goals? We all need sex it's only about the way we realize that need or maybe the way we get to the point of realizing that need. My way can be slightly different than other people ways but is it? Maybe most of us need going through that social stage... somewhere deep inside if not on conscious level. Ultimately we are social beings per se.

I think I'm not really afraid of getting infected, why should I when using protection, it's rather about using protection which is nit appealing since the feel of it while having sex is no really... satisfying
Hi Voytek,

been there done that. I can relate to what you prefer. I have been like that. Needing a social stage before sex isn't natural. It comes from a deep social programming that have installed deeply rooted beliefs about sex (ie: what is appropriate and what isn't)

I can tell you that it is a fear driven need. Having a social stage first makes sex feel safer that way.

I cannot say that I have succeed in freeing myself 100% from that but at least I'm aware of it and I acknowledge it.

Insisting on having an intermediate social stage is doable but totally unnecessary. I would say that it is not necessarily a bad thing but at best a limiting belief. It makes you blind from some opportunities that may be in front of you. Not a bad or a good thing but it is an artificial wall that your mind created. It can be removed. Just believe that it is possible and it might eventually go away.
(03-08-2020, 04:23 PM)Voytek Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2020, 08:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-08-2020, 06:04 AM)Voytek Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-07-2020, 07:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Irrational indeed, since neither HIV nor AIDs causes pus filled nodules like the one you describe, and you already had something that it apparently came from before her rubbing it.  IIRC HIV takes several months of incubation to even be possible to detect.  The pus filled nodule likely was a cyst of some sort surrounding something infectious and she either squeezed something out of it or ruptured it while rubbing it, which caused the infection to start to spread, which resulted in a rapid development of a lot of pus until it ruptured and was cleaned out.  It could have started from an infected pore.  But HIV?  That seems pretty far fetched, and it also seems far fetched that you would have done all that research on HIV without realizing that.

Ultimately, you have two choices.  You either protect yourself or you play the lottery with your life.  Given your fearful response, it sounds to me like one part of you is terrified of getting HIV (and it should be), and the other part of you is just stupid.  Of course the head with which you are thinking to have unprotected sex with a woman who has that high a chance of being infected with HIV has no brain in it, so that explains the stupid.  I cannot say I have not done stupid things in the past when I was thinking with the wrong head.  Fortunately, I made it through unscathed, which is actually pretty amazing considering how many times I have been cheated on by my girlfriends.

If you don't do stupid things, you don't need to worry about contracting HIV from having done stupid things, do you.

When you're scared it's hard to realize anything and when you're having sex with a woman for the first time in your life and you trust her a bit you commit foliles. Anyways going back to DMSI. There might be one more reason DMSI is less effective for me. It seems to me it wants to get you right to the point and straight away and when I was young I used to meet women mainly for socializing with them and talking to them and I almost never thought about having sex with them (it's not a joke). Maybe a part of myself just needs to go through a socializing stage first before switching to the sexual one. I mean I need to like her at least a bit to be eager to have sex with her and if I didn't take a liking to her it's a NO-NO for me. That's one of the reasons I don't hire hookers.

WM used to lead me through that stage perfectly, I used to connect with women on social level very fast and then move to bed. Do you think DMSI might be lacking leading you through that social stage and forcing you to get straight to the point?

So basically you are afraid of disease and you are trying to run a program that is aimed squarely at sex first and foremost when you need something else.  The fear of disease, we can work on with the FRM.  The "DMSI isn't right for my needs" thing, can't do much about that.  Maybe you need to try something else.

And if you included the focus on that social stage wouldn't it help in attaining the ultimate goals? We all need sex it's only about the way we realize that need or maybe the way we get to the point of realizing that need. My way can be slightly different than other people ways but is it? Maybe most of us need going through that social stage... somewhere deep inside if not on conscious level. Ultimately we are social beings per se.

The point of DMSI is to make you irresistibly sexually attractive.  There is and never has been any intention or focus on or intention of doing anything else.  The idea wasn't "HOw can we ease you into sex?"  The idea was "How can we make the script as powerful as possible by being as direct as possible about going from "We just met" to "We are having sex because I couldn't resist having sex with you right now."  Or, if you knew the person already, just the latter part.

I think you want that socializing part so you don't have to deal with a fear that gets in the way.

Quote:I think I'm not really afraid of getting infected, why should I when using protection, it's rather about using protection which is nit appealing since the feel of it while having sex is no really... satisfying

You forget that you are made up of multiple parts and levels of your "self".  Obviously, the sexual part is not afraid of getting infected enough to do the smart thing.  Whenever instinct and intellect differ, instinct will always offer you the illogical and irrational choice.  

Your brain is a difference engine.  That means it knows what it is experiencing by comparing that which it has experienced before to what it is experiencing now, and perceives the difference between the two.  That is why, if you look closely at someones eyes when they are viewing a scene, their eyes are actually moving back and forth a lot.  This generates a different image that the brain then subtracts from the previous image to know what is what and what is changing.

This means that it will naturally detect the difference between bareback sex and condom protected sex as being a major difference at first.  But because the "refresh rate" of your brain is relatively high, you are also a "normalizing engine".  If you do not experience difference for a while, you adjust your scale of perception to what you have to experience, and it becomes normalized.

I started off having condom protected sex, and then once I found a woman I trusted enough, I started having bareback sex with her.  Over time, different relationships had me go back and forth on that.  What I discovered is that:
  • The type of condom you use makes a big difference.  Thin vs regular vs extra strength.  Vinyl vs latex.  (I never tried sheepskin.)
  • Your level of arousal going in makes a big difference.  If you are properly aroused before hand, it feels a lot better even with a condom on.
  • Your compatibility with the particular woman matters a lot.  Some women share compatibility with you, and some don't.  Those who do have compatibility not only a vagina that feels better to you, but they also have an energy that arouses you more and makes sex feel better too.  That can significantly help with wearing a condom.
  • How long you have been using a condom, and using the same brand and type of condom, makes a BIG difference.  You have had a chance to normalize it, and then it becomes your expectation and you adjust your sensitivity to it over time.
  • Not wearing a condom with a woman I am not in a long term serious relationship with is playing the lottery.  HIV is far from the only disease you can contract through sex, and may not even be the worst.  There is also pregnancy to deal with.  One time I was seduced by a woman who I thought was seducing me because she found me so attractive, and I thought she was trying to start a serious, long term relationship with me.  I allowed her to have what she wanted, and then discovered that she was actually:
  1. Married.
  2. Had three kids with her husband.
  3. Was happily married.
  4. Had genital herpes.
  5. Wanted to bed me because she was feeling unattractive and wanted to see if she still "had it".
  6. Crazy.  
Now fortunately, I didn't contract herpes but wow, what a close call!  That was back in my early 20's, and I never did that again.  Now I make sure I know what is what before skin touches skin.


So it boils down to... are you a slave to your dick, or can you think with your brain?  If you are a slave to your dick, you'll find whatever excuse and justification is necessary to keep having unprotected sex outside of a committed long term relationship with someone you don't know for sure is clean.  Otherwise, you'll either find and form such a relationship where you can safely go bareback, or wrap the rascal.

There's really nothing more to say on this point.
Can DRS be used together with OED (or other 5G)?
I want to purchase LTU 5.5g but am afraid it will be upgraded soon and I'll miss out by buying the outdated version.

Were you planning on updating LTU any time soon Shannon?

What are you thinking about discounts for previous users?

And do you have a ballpark for how much it might cost?

Thank you for your time Shannon. I'm not sure if UMS has anything to do with it but I saw an increase to my income of absolutely zero these past few months. Really love UMS.
(03-09-2020, 03:19 PM)Vasil Wrote: [ -> ]Can DRS be used together with OED (or other 5G)?

Yes, as long as the program is not attempting to generate an aura.
(03-09-2020, 04:50 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]I want to purchase LTU 5.5g but am afraid it will be upgraded soon and I'll miss out by buying the outdated version.

Were you planning on updating LTU any time soon Shannon?

What are you thinking about discounts for previous users?

And do you have a ballpark for how much it might cost?

Thank you for your time Shannon. I'm not sure if UMS has anything to do with it but I saw an increase to my income of absolutely zero these past few months. Really love UMS.

I don't know when I will be upgrading LUT5.  I am still working on FRM 4.9, which must come first.  I am also working on MIR3, which also must come first.  Both of these are very challenging jobs to tackle.

Whet I am currently in favor of doing with the price of LTU6, regardless of the fact that it will be a 4+1 or 6+1 stage program, is to introduce it at a price of $600 a copy and then decide later what to do with the price.  So you will certainly be getting a big discount on what LTU5 costs at full price, and you'll be getting a significant upgrade, and you'll be getting a multi-stage set, all for $600 a copy.  That seems like a pretty good deal to me.

What would it cost after the introduction?  Logically I could charge more that $1,500 for it, but we will see what the models say about all this before I release the program, and before I raise the price after the introduction.
@Shannon

I am thinking about using MHS 5.75 for some constipation I have been having lately.

I know GI issues could be a sign of fear but I haven't having any stomach issues for awhile. I am wondering If I should run MHS or another program.
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