(10-30-2019, 03:04 PM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 01:20 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]FRM is at 4.8. Have had zero chance to work on it yet, although I think I know what needs to be done.
This sounds both ominous and exciting.
(10-30-2019, 12:18 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-29-2019, 02:25 PM)tolgaocal80 Wrote: [ -> ](10-29-2019, 04:05 AM)DavisMind91 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon or anyone who has used the overcoming fear 5G subliminal, how does that sub measure up vs the FRM?
as I know, OF a totaly fear removal "sub", FRM is a module, just removing fears that what is blocking the wanted goal.
I think Shannon could release a 6G or 5.75 OF-OGSF, or a FRM 5.75 that would be nice too!
OF is 5G. FRM is 5.5 and 5.75G. That alone means that FRM blows the OF 5G sub out of the water, even though it's "only" a module. (It's definitely big and complex enough to be a sub all by itself.) It's not about what FRM is pointed at, it's about how well it works and how comfortably. OF is not very easy to use and nowhere near as effective as FRM.
I have contemplated building OF/OGSF 5.75G but FRM isn't finished yet. OF 5.75G would be the key script being the FRM, and aimed at killing ALL fears.
(10-30-2019, 05:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 04:54 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 11:54 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-27-2019, 07:18 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, if im doing the carpet bombing for dmsi, do you still take the 4 day break after each 8 day cycle or do i just stay on it everyday until i see some results?
I don't know. The 4 days break is for the instructed usage pattern. You may want to try observing what happens during your 4 days off, and if something happens, then consider letting it bloom longer or less, according to when the bloom fades.
If you get no results, then we are basically back to...
Either you can't hear it or you're resisting it.
If you're using bone conductor headphones, then the only way you can't hear it is if you're using ultraonic format and the body can't pick that up through bones. But if I recall correctly, you didn't get results from any format from the bone conductor headphones, suggesting that either:
A) you can't use bone conducting headphones with subliminals at all and have it work, or
B) you're doing a hell of a good job of stonewalling.
Hi Shannon, ive just completed 8 days of 4-8 plus loops a day with bone conductor headphones with masked track playing, also added ultrasonic while sleeping. Will take the 4 days off, i mentioned in my thread had that one dream yesterday but no external results yet, not sure how im stonewalling but will see about trying hybrid after 4 days off and see if get any better results.
Do you think the bone conductor wired headphones are not allowing the subliminal to work and should go back to normal headphones?
Also i do get tired and sleepy at different stages while listening with bone conductor headphones so im guessing its working atleast in some way with them.
Bone conducting headphones are going to be the best way for you to listen. So it would appear from what you're saying here that you're just stonewalling.
(10-30-2019, 12:15 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-29-2019, 08:44 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]Our sleep is detrimental to our memory. How do our ability to form our capacity for memory by using a subliminal which send input to the mind during a time when it’s used to decompose the impressions made during the day?
I would have to say that sleep is what enables your memory. Without sufficient sleep, your memory will go straight to hell. So I think you are making a statement there that isn't all of what you were trying to communicate. Or you have misunderstood something somewhere.
Your question itself is not worded in a way that makes sense, but I'll presume you're asking how using a subliminal affects our ability to form memories while we sleep, if we use a subliminal while we sleep.
There should not be much, if any, effect. The subconscious has to handle over a million process at a time while we are awake, according to the research I read (no I don't remember where/what it was), and if it can do that and handle one of my 5G+ subs at the same time, then we have plenty of spare capacity. When you sleep, the number of processes that must be handled is reduced because the conscious mind is "down". Even more capacity.
So I don't see how it would affect you at all, unless you're using a subliminal that keeps you awake (Awakener) when you need sleep instead, or overloading yourself using too many programs at once.
(10-30-2019, 11:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-27-2019, 12:31 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
Are you certain we need to use dmsi according to instructions?
I noticed that I got better results from using it as needed {usually one loop each 3 days}
The scenario as follows,
When used 4loops 8:4, I notice a spike in attraction celebrity etc... For about exactly day 1 and 2. Then it fades away and frustration, depression and Fear takes place
When used for as needed (usually one loop, 1 day on 3 days off)
I notice increase in attraction to a very nice degree. Ex while at meeting during work a girl I like sat next to me got really uncomfortable and literally shifted her entire body toward me (which is 180degree away from the presenter) and only her head looking and the presenter. Including her legs and feet pointing and Waving at me. And constantly checking me out. She was being affected to a large degree. Then she got more uncomfortable and decided to leave the room.
Anyways point is. What should I do? How should I use this subliminal. Because it is obvious results vary largely by usage pattern
BTW when I did one loop (as needed) I used masked track
When I used it according to instructions, I used US.
Update: I have concluded that even though I was executi g on 1 loop and frequent breaks, I probably was as well trying to escape.
And since I am doing very well on masked format, therefore I'll be following the instructions by running the masked format.
This is a difficult question to answer. Here's why.
DMSI 3.3.2 has AutoConfig 3.0 in it. It's aimed at causing your subconscious to figure out what the optimal usage patterns are, and "just do that". I provide the instructions because A) that's what the models tell me will result in the best results for the most people in the long term, and B) you need something toi start with and fall back on if AutoConfig 3.0 is either not working or being resisted.
So which is better? That depends on which produces the best results. Some of you are definitely not executing AutoConfig 3.0, and others may be.
(10-30-2019, 08:33 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 05:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 04:54 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 11:54 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-27-2019, 07:18 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, if im doing the carpet bombing for dmsi, do you still take the 4 day break after each 8 day cycle or do i just stay on it everyday until i see some results?
I don't know. The 4 days break is for the instructed usage pattern. You may want to try observing what happens during your 4 days off, and if something happens, then consider letting it bloom longer or less, according to when the bloom fades.
If you get no results, then we are basically back to...
Either you can't hear it or you're resisting it.
If you're using bone conductor headphones, then the only way you can't hear it is if you're using ultraonic format and the body can't pick that up through bones. But if I recall correctly, you didn't get results from any format from the bone conductor headphones, suggesting that either:
A) you can't use bone conducting headphones with subliminals at all and have it work, or
B) you're doing a hell of a good job of stonewalling.
Hi Shannon, ive just completed 8 days of 4-8 plus loops a day with bone conductor headphones with masked track playing, also added ultrasonic while sleeping. Will take the 4 days off, i mentioned in my thread had that one dream yesterday but no external results yet, not sure how im stonewalling but will see about trying hybrid after 4 days off and see if get any better results.
Do you think the bone conductor wired headphones are not allowing the subliminal to work and should go back to normal headphones?
Also i do get tired and sleepy at different stages while listening with bone conductor headphones so im guessing its working atleast in some way with them.
Bone conducting headphones are going to be the best way for you to listen. So it would appear from what you're saying here that you're just stonewalling.
Hi Shannon, if im just stonewalling what do you suggest i do to try and get past it?
Thanks.
(10-31-2019, 02:23 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 12:15 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-29-2019, 08:44 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]Our sleep is detrimental to our memory. How do our ability to form our capacity for memory by using a subliminal which send input to the mind during a time when it’s used to decompose the impressions made during the day?
I would have to say that sleep is what enables your memory. Without sufficient sleep, your memory will go straight to hell. So I think you are making a statement there that isn't all of what you were trying to communicate. Or you have misunderstood something somewhere.
Your question itself is not worded in a way that makes sense, but I'll presume you're asking how using a subliminal affects our ability to form memories while we sleep, if we use a subliminal while we sleep.
There should not be much, if any, effect. The subconscious has to handle over a million process at a time while we are awake, according to the research I read (no I don't remember where/what it was), and if it can do that and handle one of my 5G+ subs at the same time, then we have plenty of spare capacity. When you sleep, the number of processes that must be handled is reduced because the conscious mind is "down". Even more capacity.
So I don't see how it would affect you at all, unless you're using a subliminal that keeps you awake (Awakener) when you need sleep instead, or overloading yourself using too many programs at once.
Thank you for refining my question.
I have gotten some kind of restriction on my account because I have posted something that wasn’t pleasing to you or one of your moderators, which is a reason for this being my last post here as I don’t feel like being treated as a five year old. Just wanted to express my gratitude for your work, and that i am staying as a loyal customer because you have always treated me fairly, helped me clarify things that have troubled my life and given me a great product in form of LTU which has done wonders so far. I however want to express my dissatisfaction with one of your moderators which I have felt has driven an agenda towards me and I have experienced me being treated unfairly and unprofessionaly by him.
Best of luck with your work. You are making a true difference and I truly believe you will achieve the level of penetration with your product that you aim for with all the qualitative and diligent work you put in during the years.
Greenduck.
(10-31-2019, 06:57 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 08:33 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 05:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 04:54 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 11:54 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I don't know. The 4 days break is for the instructed usage pattern. You may want to try observing what happens during your 4 days off, and if something happens, then consider letting it bloom longer or less, according to when the bloom fades.
If you get no results, then we are basically back to...
Either you can't hear it or you're resisting it.
If you're using bone conductor headphones, then the only way you can't hear it is if you're using ultraonic format and the body can't pick that up through bones. But if I recall correctly, you didn't get results from any format from the bone conductor headphones, suggesting that either:
A) you can't use bone conducting headphones with subliminals at all and have it work, or
B) you're doing a hell of a good job of stonewalling.
Hi Shannon, ive just completed 8 days of 4-8 plus loops a day with bone conductor headphones with masked track playing, also added ultrasonic while sleeping. Will take the 4 days off, i mentioned in my thread had that one dream yesterday but no external results yet, not sure how im stonewalling but will see about trying hybrid after 4 days off and see if get any better results.
Do you think the bone conductor wired headphones are not allowing the subliminal to work and should go back to normal headphones?
Also i do get tired and sleepy at different stages while listening with bone conductor headphones so im guessing its working atleast in some way with them.
Bone conducting headphones are going to be the best way for you to listen. So it would appear from what you're saying here that you're just stonewalling.
Hi Shannon, if im just stonewalling what do you suggest i do to try and get past it?
Thanks.
If you're stonewalling DMSI, then what I would do in your shoes is try to understand the situation more. I understand you have used 5.5G subs without success. I would give it a try with one of the new 5.75G subs other than DMSI. Less to fear, less to stonewall.
On the other hand, I don't want to sound like I'm trying to lead you along and buy more stuff throwing good money after bad. But if you start getting results from ARA 5.75G, or Tranquilizer A, or another non-DMSI 5.75G release, then we will know you can hear them, and you're able to get results from 5.75G, but not DMSI.
Not getting results from the scariest subliminal in the arsenal doesn't seem to be an uncommon thing yet.
So if you don't want to spend yet more money on subs - and I would fully understand, I'm surprised you've gone as far as you have with trying - then the key is to understand definitively, is this a hearing issue, and if not, what am I afraid of? Why am I afraid of that? What is the source of that fear? Where did that source come from? Why is it triggering these fears?
(10-30-2019, 11:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-27-2019, 12:31 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
Are you certain we need to use dmsi according to instructions?
I noticed that I got better results from using it as needed {usually one loop each 3 days}
The scenario as follows,
When used 4loops 8:4, I notice a spike in attraction celebrity etc... For about exactly day 1 and 2. Then it fades away and frustration, depression and Fear takes place
When used for as needed (usually one loop, 1 day on 3 days off)
I notice increase in attraction to a very nice degree. Ex while at meeting during work a girl I like sat next to me got really uncomfortable and literally shifted her entire body toward me (which is 180degree away from the presenter) and only her head looking and the presenter. Including her legs and feet pointing and Waving at me. And constantly checking me out. She was being affected to a large degree. Then she got more uncomfortable and decided to leave the room.
Anyways point is. What should I do? How should I use this subliminal. Because it is obvious results vary largely by usage pattern
BTW when I did one loop (as needed) I used masked track
When I used it according to instructions, I used US.
Update: I have concluded that even though I was executi g on 1 loop and frequent breaks, I probably was as well trying to escape.
And since I am doing very well on masked format, therefore I'll be following the instructions by running the masked format.
This is a difficult question to answer. Here's why.
DMSI 3.3.2 has AutoConfig 3.0 in it. It's aimed at causing your subconscious to figure out what the optimal usage patterns are, and "just do that". I provide the instructions because A) that's what the models tell me will result in the best results for the most people in the long term, and B) you need something toi start with and fall back on if AutoConfig 3.0 is either not working or being resisted.
So which is better? That depends on which produces the best results. Some of you are definitely not executing AutoConfig 3.0, and others may be.
(10-31-2019, 09:06 AM)Rossignol17 Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 11:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-27-2019, 12:31 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
Are you certain we need to use dmsi according to instructions?
I noticed that I got better results from using it as needed {usually one loop each 3 days}
The scenario as follows,
When used 4loops 8:4, I notice a spike in attraction celebrity etc... For about exactly day 1 and 2. Then it fades away and frustration, depression and Fear takes place
When used for as needed (usually one loop, 1 day on 3 days off)
I notice increase in attraction to a very nice degree. Ex while at meeting during work a girl I like sat next to me got really uncomfortable and literally shifted her entire body toward me (which is 180degree away from the presenter) and only her head looking and the presenter. Including her legs and feet pointing and Waving at me. And constantly checking me out. She was being affected to a large degree. Then she got more uncomfortable and decided to leave the room.
Anyways point is. What should I do? How should I use this subliminal. Because it is obvious results vary largely by usage pattern
BTW when I did one loop (as needed) I used masked track
When I used it according to instructions, I used US.
Update: I have concluded that even though I was executi g on 1 loop and frequent breaks, I probably was as well trying to escape.
And since I am doing very well on masked format, therefore I'll be following the instructions by running the masked format.
This is a difficult question to answer. Here's why.
DMSI 3.3.2 has AutoConfig 3.0 in it. It's aimed at causing your subconscious to figure out what the optimal usage patterns are, and "just do that". I provide the instructions because A) that's what the models tell me will result in the best results for the most people in the long term, and B) you need something toi start with and fall back on if AutoConfig 3.0 is either not working or being resisted.
So which is better? That depends on which produces the best results. Some of you are definitely not executing AutoConfig 3.0, and others may be.
Are there any other subs bedsides DMSI and UMS that have the AutoConfig in them ?
(10-31-2019, 09:45 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]So, ignoring what are the programs that accept usage patterns other than those recommended on the page, within the variables included for the return policy, will the recommended usage patterns be considered as the minimum necessary?(10-31-2019, 09:06 AM)Rossignol17 Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 11:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-27-2019, 12:31 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
Are you certain we need to use dmsi according to instructions?
I noticed that I got better results from using it as needed {usually one loop each 3 days}
The scenario as follows,
When used 4loops 8:4, I notice a spike in attraction celebrity etc... For about exactly day 1 and 2. Then it fades away and frustration, depression and Fear takes place
When used for as needed (usually one loop, 1 day on 3 days off)
I notice increase in attraction to a very nice degree. Ex while at meeting during work a girl I like sat next to me got really uncomfortable and literally shifted her entire body toward me (which is 180degree away from the presenter) and only her head looking and the presenter. Including her legs and feet pointing and Waving at me. And constantly checking me out. She was being affected to a large degree. Then she got more uncomfortable and decided to leave the room.
Anyways point is. What should I do? How should I use this subliminal. Because it is obvious results vary largely by usage pattern
BTW when I did one loop (as needed) I used masked track
When I used it according to instructions, I used US.
Update: I have concluded that even though I was executi g on 1 loop and frequent breaks, I probably was as well trying to escape.
And since I am doing very well on masked format, therefore I'll be following the instructions by running the masked format.
This is a difficult question to answer. Here's why.
DMSI 3.3.2 has AutoConfig 3.0 in it. It's aimed at causing your subconscious to figure out what the optimal usage patterns are, and "just do that". I provide the instructions because A) that's what the models tell me will result in the best results for the most people in the long term, and B) you need something toi start with and fall back on if AutoConfig 3.0 is either not working or being resisted.
So which is better? That depends on which produces the best results. Some of you are definitely not executing AutoConfig 3.0, and others may be.
Are there any other subs bedsides DMSI and UMS that have the AutoConfig in them ?
Yes. But specifically which ones do and do not have AutoConfig in them is currently classified information, as I use the lack of your knowledge of that to prevent placebo.
(10-31-2019, 08:27 AM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2019, 06:57 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 08:33 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 05:06 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 04:54 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, ive just completed 8 days of 4-8 plus loops a day with bone conductor headphones with masked track playing, also added ultrasonic while sleeping. Will take the 4 days off, i mentioned in my thread had that one dream yesterday but no external results yet, not sure how im stonewalling but will see about trying hybrid after 4 days off and see if get any better results.
Do you think the bone conductor wired headphones are not allowing the subliminal to work and should go back to normal headphones?
Also i do get tired and sleepy at different stages while listening with bone conductor headphones so im guessing its working atleast in some way with them.
Bone conducting headphones are going to be the best way for you to listen. So it would appear from what you're saying here that you're just stonewalling.
Hi Shannon, if im just stonewalling what do you suggest i do to try and get past it?
Thanks.
If you're stonewalling DMSI, then what I would do in your shoes is try to understand the situation more. I understand you have used 5.5G subs without success. I would give it a try with one of the new 5.75G subs other than DMSI. Less to fear, less to stonewall.
On the other hand, I don't want to sound like I'm trying to lead you along and buy more stuff throwing good money after bad. But if you start getting results from ARA 5.75G, or Tranquilizer A, or another non-DMSI 5.75G release, then we will know you can hear them, and you're able to get results from 5.75G, but not DMSI.
Not getting results from the scariest subliminal in the arsenal doesn't seem to be an uncommon thing yet.
So if you don't want to spend yet more money on subs - and I would fully understand, I'm surprised you've gone as far as you have with trying - then the key is to understand definitively, is this a hearing issue, and if not, what am I afraid of? Why am I afraid of that? What is the source of that fear? Where did that source come from? Why is it triggering these fears?
Hi Shannon, thanks for the response.
Currently looking at the newest subliminals to see which would be best to try.
The awakener because its more just to wake us up wont benefit as much as ara or laser focus in finding out if the subliminals work or will it still be good enough to say the 5.75 is working for me just not dmsi?
Laser focus is another good one for me because i am always changing from doing one thing but within minutes i get bored and then will listen to music or watch a show then go back to something so my productivity is very low.
Ara is also a good one as im in my head a lot and thinking when interacting and not very good at being in the moment and spontaneous with interactions and certainly not very flirty if and when i would be interested in trying to do that with someone.
I would love to use all 3 but i dont think we can do that with ara and laser focus yet.
The other issue is with the bone conductor headphones im not able to lay down or go to sleep with them and its recommended i think with ara to use while sleeping?
Which one would you suggest might be best to try shannon?
Also i dont know if my hearing aids being in while bone conductor headphones are on could be causing an issue but i have had them on when playing the audio recently but since going through the cheeks it shouldnt be an issue.
(10-31-2019, 11:03 AM)Yous Wrote: [ -> ](10-31-2019, 09:45 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]So, ignoring what are the programs that accept usage patterns other than those recommended on the page, within the variables included for the return policy, will the recommended usage patterns be considered as the minimum necessary?(10-31-2019, 09:06 AM)Rossignol17 Wrote: [ -> ](10-30-2019, 11:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ](10-27-2019, 12:31 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,
Are you certain we need to use dmsi according to instructions?
I noticed that I got better results from using it as needed {usually one loop each 3 days}
The scenario as follows,
When used 4loops 8:4, I notice a spike in attraction celebrity etc... For about exactly day 1 and 2. Then it fades away and frustration, depression and Fear takes place
When used for as needed (usually one loop, 1 day on 3 days off)
I notice increase in attraction to a very nice degree. Ex while at meeting during work a girl I like sat next to me got really uncomfortable and literally shifted her entire body toward me (which is 180degree away from the presenter) and only her head looking and the presenter. Including her legs and feet pointing and Waving at me. And constantly checking me out. She was being affected to a large degree. Then she got more uncomfortable and decided to leave the room.
Anyways point is. What should I do? How should I use this subliminal. Because it is obvious results vary largely by usage pattern
BTW when I did one loop (as needed) I used masked track
When I used it according to instructions, I used US.
Update: I have concluded that even though I was executi g on 1 loop and frequent breaks, I probably was as well trying to escape.
And since I am doing very well on masked format, therefore I'll be following the instructions by running the masked format.
This is a difficult question to answer. Here's why.
DMSI 3.3.2 has AutoConfig 3.0 in it. It's aimed at causing your subconscious to figure out what the optimal usage patterns are, and "just do that". I provide the instructions because A) that's what the models tell me will result in the best results for the most people in the long term, and B) you need something toi start with and fall back on if AutoConfig 3.0 is either not working or being resisted.
So which is better? That depends on which produces the best results. Some of you are definitely not executing AutoConfig 3.0, and others may be.
Are there any other subs bedsides DMSI and UMS that have the AutoConfig in them ?
Yes. But specifically which ones do and do not have AutoConfig in them is currently classified information, as I use the lack of your knowledge of that to prevent placebo.
Quote:Thank you for refining my question.
I have gotten some kind of restriction on my account because I have posted something that wasn’t pleasing to you or one of your moderators, which is a reason for this being my last post here as I don’t feel like being treated as a five year old. Just wanted to express my gratitude for your work, and that i am staying as a loyal customer because you have always treated me fairly, helped me clarify things that have troubled my life and given me a great product in form of LTU which has done wonders so far. I however want to express my dissatisfaction with one of your moderators which I have felt has driven an agenda towards me and I have experienced me being treated unfairly and unprofessionaly by him.
Best of luck with your work. You are making a true difference and I truly believe you will achieve the level of penetration with your product that you aim for with all the qualitative and diligent work you put in during the years.
Greenduck.
Quote:I have gotten some kind of restriction on my account because I have posted something that wasn’t pleasing to you or one of your moderators
