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(10-27-2021, 11:16 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

Hope you doing great and wonderful. As you can see your subs are becoming more and more exciting hence we would like to hear from you more about DMSI.

You know the last update was 2 years ago! So now you finally come to the script of DMSI, how does it look like? Since you have learned alot since last update, Can you now see the flaws in the script?

What are you currently working on? Which module?

I think you may be surprised to see how many new sales this new DMSI will bring. Anyways, I am basically asking for a comprehensive update, not for the purpose of hyping, not really, but because we are actually interested to know more.

Hint: TID continues to amaze me... Thank you again.

Looking at the script now, I see things I did that I understand better and will do differently this time around.  I don't think they are flaws, but the were based on my best understanding at the time.  That was not advanced and or complete enough, and in some cases, my logical conclusions as to how to achieve the goal were in error because of insufficient information.  I believe understand what the issues are and how to correct them.

At the moment I am working on the module that guides your subconscious in who will be affected.  It needs refinement, adjustment, optimization and an additional component. 

This part of the process is taking longer than it should because apparently some part of me is trying to do anything and everything it can to fight me making progress.  I'm not sure if it is trying to fight UMS or DMSI or both, but it's trying tactics it has never attempted before.  Unfortunately, all it can do is temporarily delay things, because sooner or later I always catch on to what it's doing and defeat the effort. 

The phase of production I am in with DMSI is basically going through and reviewing the previous script parts, determining whether to enable or disable them and then adjusting, adding to and optimizing the parts that remain active.  Some of the parts are based on out of date information or techniques or approaches which are now known to be either not effective or have been superseded by something better.

Once this phase is finished, I have to develop the external facing rear removal module. After that I'll do a final review to make sure I didn't miss anything, and then there is just the matter of configuring the relevant modules for Platinum Lake and building.

Not sure how long this will take, but it's in process.
(10-28-2021, 09:09 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon

I’ve been thinking about something for a while now- there was a period of time in my life where I had what would be akin to full to close to full execution of DMSI

I wouldn’t say 100% execution because women wouldn’t do all of the work and I wasn’t always getting the caliber of women I was interested in (and I would often sabotage myself in some manner and wouldn’t take it to the close as often as I should’ve been)- but I did get a lot of attention from women wherever I went and they would throw themselves at me and I wouldn’t really approach them all that often if at all, nor did I ever really talk much when I interacted, often times quickly worked my way into a make out session (and being as how this was in my younger years that was often considered a great success in my eyes at that time)

Long story short, up until 6-7 years ago (for a period lasting around 5-6 years, I’d say around the ages of 16-21) I was presented with tons of opportunities when it came to women (most of them I messed up which is one of my largest regrets in life and why I would really love to fully execute DMSI at some point when I start using it)

This all came to a halt due to (as least due to what I believe to be the reasons) me gaining a much of weight and becoming a much bigger overall guy, starting to sport a fuller beard (I was mainly clean shaven or close to it at that time), I lost some hair although not too much thankfully, mostly some thinning and receding in the front and my face overall has changed shaped and appearance- overall I assume due to aging- I have been working on fixing things although most things that I have tried just don’t seem to have worked

I’m wondering since I’ve had a taste of what the product description of DMSI entails would that mean upon full execution- that I would be able to return to my former glory (if not an even better version, especially due to me being older and more experienced now)?

I’ve used 3.0 and 3.1 and 3.2 for around 6+ months each (and a bit of 3.3) I’ve seen trickles of success here and there but nothing consistent

What you're describing sounds like the execution of DMSI triggered a self sabotage reaction that was designed to make you gain weight and be less attractive to women to "keep you safe".  You know the drill.  I don't know if that will be reversed by the new DMSI.  The only thing I can say is, we have to wait and see.  But I'm pretty sure that this version of the program, and the build method and tech level is going to make a big difference in execution, and it stands to reason that if it does overcome the resistance and self sabotage that resulted in that transformation, it would seem plausible that it might be reversed.
(10-28-2021, 12:44 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2021, 09:09 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon

I’ve been thinking about something for a while now- there was a period of time in my life where I had what would be akin to full to close to full execution of DMSI

I wouldn’t say 100% execution because women wouldn’t do all of the work and I wasn’t always getting the caliber of women I was interested in (and I would often sabotage myself in some manner and wouldn’t take it to the close as often as I should’ve been)- but I did get a lot of attention from women wherever I went and they would throw themselves at me and I wouldn’t really approach them all that often if at all, nor did I ever really talk much when I interacted, often times quickly worked my way into a make out session (and being as how this was in my younger years that was often considered a great success in my eyes at that time)

Long story short, up until 6-7 years ago (for a period lasting around 5-6 years, I’d say around the ages of 16-21) I was presented with tons of opportunities when it came to women (most of them I messed up which is one of my largest regrets in life and why I would really love to fully execute DMSI at some point when I start using it)

This all came to a halt due to (as least due to what I believe to be the reasons) me gaining a much of weight and becoming a much bigger overall guy, starting to sport a fuller beard (I was mainly clean shaven or close to it at that time), I lost some hair although not too much thankfully, mostly some thinning and receding in the front and my face overall has changed shaped and appearance- overall I assume due to aging- I have been working on fixing things although most things that I have tried just don’t seem to have worked

I’m wondering since I’ve had a taste of what the product description of DMSI entails would that mean upon full execution- that I would be able to return to my former glory (if not an even better version, especially due to me being older and more experienced now)?

I’ve used 3.0 and 3.1 and 3.2 for around 6+ months each (and a bit of 3.3) I’ve seen trickles of success here and there but nothing consistent

What you're describing sounds like the execution of DMSI triggered a self sabotage reaction that was designed to make you gain weight and be less attractive to women to "keep you safe".  You know the drill.  I don't know if that will be reversed by the new DMSI.  The only thing I can say is, we have to wait and see.  But I'm pretty sure that this version of the program, and the build method and tech level is going to make a big difference in execution, and it stands to reason that if it does overcome the resistance and self sabotage that resulted in that transformation, it would seem plausible that it might be reversed.


Hi how are you @Shannon 

Thanks for the prompt reply

The original weight gain occurred prior to me ever using DMSI (but upon using my first version of DMSI I did abruptly gain 20lbs that I was never able to rid myself of, and this came around my first usage of DMSI and funnily enough I was working out heavily around that time as well so this was all very interesting)

To make it clearer: I was around 170-190 for the most part during college (18-22)

Afterwards I crept up to 205-210

DMSI usage pushed me abruptly at first and then gradually to 225-230

And since covid I’m now up to around 250, while working out better and eating better than I did when I was 170-190 

I am now 28 years old  

This is along with other aging factors such as some hair thinning, growing a beard and growth of my head, nose, etc
@Shannon

And just to further clarify my original question wasn’t with reference to the weight gain- that was just part of my explanation as to what I think caused the change in my experience with women (my past experience at least)

My question was that even if I don’t lose an ounce or change my appearance in anyway is it in any way possible to return to my previous experience with women from back then, and attain the level of let’s call it “success” that I used to experience (and this is 4-5 years prior to any DMSI or sub use- all natural) if theoretically I fully execute the sub
(10-28-2021, 12:24 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-27-2021, 10:33 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-27-2021, 04:11 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-27-2021, 05:26 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hi all...since I stopped with ME (for now I am satisfied with the results, I will maybe run it again or maybe not at some later time), I thought you guys needed to know how much I gained in 2 months of listening.
So, I started the listening scedule as recomended, but after 7 days I changed to 1 loop, 3days on, 1day off (you need to find your sweet spot by yourself) ok, ok....so, in 2 months I gained 1cm in lentgh and 3mm in girth.

One of the reasons I quitted ME is the fact that I want to deal with other issues before I continue with (If I will still want to continue) ME.

So, I just wanted to report that it works!!!
Well done @Shannon  Smile

Excellent news!

How are you measuring girth? Circumference?

yes circumference on 3 points root ,middle and top just behind the penis head.

Btw Shanon, Male enhancement is focused on penis enlargement, yes, but does it have anything else like a component to enhance the user to feel manlier?
(not sure how to explain this one)

ME only affects the size of the penis.

Lol so I guess that is all me (myself) than Smile
(10-28-2021, 12:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-27-2021, 11:16 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

Hope you doing great and wonderful. As you can see your subs are becoming more and more exciting hence we would like to hear from you more about DMSI.

You know the last update was 2 years ago! So now you finally come to the script of DMSI, how does it look like? Since you have learned alot since last update, Can you now see the flaws in the script?

What are you currently working on? Which module?

I think you may be surprised to see how many new sales this new DMSI will bring. Anyways, I am basically asking for a comprehensive update, not for the purpose of hyping, not really, but because we are actually interested to know more.

Hint: TID continues to amaze me... Thank you again.

Looking at the script now, I see things I did that I understand better and will do differently this time around.  I don't think they are flaws, but the were based on my best understanding at the time.  That was not advanced and or complete enough, and in some cases, my logical conclusions as to how to achieve the goal were in error because of insufficient information.  I believe understand what the issues are and how to correct them.

At the moment I am working on the module that guides your subconscious in who will be affected.  It needs refinement, adjustment, optimization and an additional component. 

This part of the process is taking longer than it should because apparently some part of me is trying to do anything and everything it can to fight me making progress.  I'm not sure if it is trying to fight UMS or DMSI or both, but it's trying tactics it has never attempted before.  Unfortunately, all it can do is temporarily delay things, because sooner or later I always catch on to what it's doing and defeat the effort. 

The phase of production I am in with DMSI is basically going through and reviewing the previous script parts, determining whether to enable or disable them and then adjusting, adding to and optimizing the parts that remain active.  Some of the parts are based on out of date information or techniques or approaches which are now known to be either not effective or have been superseded by something better.

Once this phase is finished, I have to develop the external facing rear removal module. After that I'll do a final review to make sure I didn't miss anything, and then there is just the matter of configuring the relevant modules for Platinum Lake and building.

Not sure how long this will take, but it's in process.

Thank you for update. I wanted to mention something a while ago, just based on forum speculation, it does seem like you always encounter major resistance whenever you decide to work on DMSI. Almost feels like there is a huge resistance around making this sub work. But this purely on speculation only and you know better..
(10-29-2021, 05:50 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2021, 12:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-27-2021, 11:16 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

Hope you doing great and wonderful. As you can see your subs are becoming more and more exciting hence we would like to hear from you more about DMSI.

You know the last update was 2 years ago! So now you finally come to the script of DMSI, how does it look like? Since you have learned alot since last update, Can you now see the flaws in the script?

What are you currently working on? Which module?

I think you may be surprised to see how many new sales this new DMSI will bring. Anyways, I am basically asking for a comprehensive update, not for the purpose of hyping, not really, but because we are actually interested to know more.

Hint: TID continues to amaze me... Thank you again.

Looking at the script now, I see things I did that I understand better and will do differently this time around.  I don't think they are flaws, but the were based on my best understanding at the time.  That was not advanced and or complete enough, and in some cases, my logical conclusions as to how to achieve the goal were in error because of insufficient information.  I believe understand what the issues are and how to correct them.

At the moment I am working on the module that guides your subconscious in who will be affected.  It needs refinement, adjustment, optimization and an additional component. 

This part of the process is taking longer than it should because apparently some part of me is trying to do anything and everything it can to fight me making progress.  I'm not sure if it is trying to fight UMS or DMSI or both, but it's trying tactics it has never attempted before.  Unfortunately, all it can do is temporarily delay things, because sooner or later I always catch on to what it's doing and defeat the effort. 

The phase of production I am in with DMSI is basically going through and reviewing the previous script parts, determining whether to enable or disable them and then adjusting, adding to and optimizing the parts that remain active.  Some of the parts are based on out of date information or techniques or approaches which are now known to be either not effective or have been superseded by something better.

Once this phase is finished, I have to develop the external facing rear removal module. After that I'll do a final review to make sure I didn't miss anything, and then there is just the matter of configuring the relevant modules for Platinum Lake and building.

Not sure how long this will take, but it's in process.

Thank you for update. I wanted to mention something a while ago, just based on forum speculation, it does seem like you always encounter major resistance whenever you decide to work on DMSI. Almost feels like there is a huge resistance around making this sub work. But this purely on speculation only and you know better..

The resistance right now is definitely to UMS V2 specifically.  It looks like I have a history of resistance to completing specific goals that lead to wealth. I am in the process of forcibly making my way past that resistance right now. The fighting tactics being used against my conscious goals right now are "scorched earth" type, meaning LTU V2 is shortly going to win as long as I can keep up sufficient loops.
Hey Shannon,

Had a question on what sub you may feel would be best for my situation. I have been stuck in a cycle based upon my childhood relationship with my father that has projected onto different areas of my life. the core of it comes down to doing the right or wrong thing and if i dont there be negative consequences. There are also other issues those such as obligation and being forced to do things i dont want to. i think one of the core instances that ingrained the fear of negative consequences involved being shamed and threatened for a sexual experience i had with a cousin as child. Do you feel ehpra would be best for this? i was also conspiring dmsi because of the guilt around sexuality and it also being the sub i have had the most success with in a previous version. During my run i had completely taken responsibility for my life and set it up 100 percent towards my goals and wasnt as focused on woman, though i noticed it attracted some of the girls i was most interested in because i was focused on myself and think i was in the mos alignment with who i truly am and what i wanted to do. I ended up getting off of it though and not too long after the childhood fears got triggered. Just thought i would share that part as well. Thanks for the input.
Is the affected up entirely up to the subconscious? Or dose it go off what your conscious mind finds attractive? I know there are were also other anti-sniper like factors in previous versions?
Reading some of the comments here:

It seems that a self confidence module would be very necessary for user. I’d rather have DMSI make user a very magnetic ? initiator of the dynamic by default

From personal use with ASC, it helped in taking more action & having more trust sexually. More attractive Girls took note of me some calling me “hot” and being visible more turned on by my presence.
(10-29-2021, 10:14 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-29-2021, 05:50 AM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-28-2021, 12:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-27-2021, 11:16 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon,

Hope you doing great and wonderful. As you can see your subs are becoming more and more exciting hence we would like to hear from you more about DMSI.

You know the last update was 2 years ago! So now you finally come to the script of DMSI, how does it look like? Since you have learned alot since last update, Can you now see the flaws in the script?

What are you currently working on? Which module?

I think you may be surprised to see how many new sales this new DMSI will bring. Anyways, I am basically asking for a comprehensive update, not for the purpose of hyping, not really, but because we are actually interested to know more.

Hint: TID continues to amaze me... Thank you again.

Looking at the script now, I see things I did that I understand better and will do differently this time around.  I don't think they are flaws, but the were based on my best understanding at the time.  That was not advanced and or complete enough, and in some cases, my logical conclusions as to how to achieve the goal were in error because of insufficient information.  I believe understand what the issues are and how to correct them.

At the moment I am working on the module that guides your subconscious in who will be affected.  It needs refinement, adjustment, optimization and an additional component. 

This part of the process is taking longer than it should because apparently some part of me is trying to do anything and everything it can to fight me making progress.  I'm not sure if it is trying to fight UMS or DMSI or both, but it's trying tactics it has never attempted before.  Unfortunately, all it can do is temporarily delay things, because sooner or later I always catch on to what it's doing and defeat the effort. 

The phase of production I am in with DMSI is basically going through and reviewing the previous script parts, determining whether to enable or disable them and then adjusting, adding to and optimizing the parts that remain active.  Some of the parts are based on out of date information or techniques or approaches which are now known to be either not effective or have been superseded by something better.

Once this phase is finished, I have to develop the external facing rear removal module. After that I'll do a final review to make sure I didn't miss anything, and then there is just the matter of configuring the relevant modules for Platinum Lake and building.

Not sure how long this will take, but it's in process.

Thank you for update. I wanted to mention something a while ago, just based on forum speculation, it does seem like you always encounter major resistance whenever you decide to work on DMSI. Almost feels like there is a huge resistance around making this sub work. But this purely on speculation only and you know better..

The resistance right now is definitely to UMS V2 specifically.  It looks like I have a history of resistance to completing specific goals that lead to wealth. I am in the process of forcibly making my way past that resistance right now. The fighting tactics being used against my conscious goals right now are "scorched earth" type, meaning LTU V2 is shortly going to win as long as I can keep up sufficient loops.

Just though I would point out that I've seen you say LTU instead of UMS at at least two times now, maybe could give you some clue on what your subconscious is up to.
(10-29-2021, 01:40 PM)Darkness Wrote: [ -> ]Reading some of the comments here:

It seems that a self confidence module would be very necessary for user. I’d rather have DMSI make user a very magnetic ? initiator of the dynamic by default

From personal use with ASC, it helped in taking more action & having more trust sexually. More attractive  Girls took note of me some calling me “hot” and being visible more turned on by my presence.

that would be nice
(10-29-2021, 12:10 PM)Broski Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon,

Had a question on what sub you may feel would be best for my situation. I have been stuck in a cycle based upon my childhood relationship with my father that has projected onto different areas of my life. the core of it comes down to doing the right or wrong thing and if i dont there be negative consequences. There are also other issues those such as obligation and being forced to do things i dont want to. i think one of the core instances that ingrained the fear of negative consequences involved being shamed and threatened for a sexual experience i had with a cousin as child. Do you feel ehpra would be best for this? i was also conspiring dmsi because of the guilt around sexuality and  it also being the sub i have had the most success with in a previous version. During my run i had completely taken responsibility for my life and set it up 100 percent towards my goals and wasnt as focused on woman, though i noticed it attracted some of the girls i was most interested in because i was focused on myself and think i was in the mos alignment with who i truly am and what i wanted to do. I ended up getting off of it though and not too long after the childhood fears got triggered.  Just thought i would share that part as well. Thanks for the input.

Hmmm. Given what you've said, and the fact that I haven't finished developing DMSI 3.4, and what I know so far will and won't be in it, I think a run of EHPRA vLatest will do you significant good towards making DMSI work best for you in the future.
(10-29-2021, 12:59 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: [ -> ]Is the affected up entirely up to the subconscious? Or dose it go off what your conscious mind finds attractive? I know there are were also other anti-sniper like factors in previous versions?

The script specifying who to focus on is designed to take its cues from the conscious and subconscious.
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