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(12-10-2020, 12:27 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon with the new technology you're using to advance us into the 5.75.5G era do you believe it would be profitable to create a new version of Attract Positive Energy except imbue the program with technology that would allow the user to radiate positive energy to everyone around them? COVID-19 has made the world and everyone's outlook a bit gloomier so a subliminal designed to improve mood might be useful. The individual would ooze positive energy in much the same way that a person on DMSI is supposed to ooze sexuality. It would be your way of making everyone's holidays better. One person running this could potentially positively brighten the day of each person they ran into.

My point of view is, very few people would buy that.  I like the idea, but between the number of people who don't believe in auras, and the number of people who could not run it because they're running something else, and the number of people who would be interested, the only way to make that sell would be to point the energy in a specific direction for the benefit of the user.  It's too nebulous a "reward" for the user otherwise.  I'm not sure what that focus would be.
(12-10-2020, 03:46 PM)Omni3 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-10-2020, 12:27 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon with the new technology you're using to advance us into the 5.75.5G era do you believe it would be profitable to create a new version of Attract Positive Energy except imbue the program with technology that would allow the user to radiate positive energy to everyone around them? COVID-19 has made the world and everyone's outlook a bit gloomier so a subliminal designed to improve mood might be useful. The individual would ooze positive energy in much the same way that a person on DMSI is supposed to ooze sexuality. It would be your way of making everyone's holidays better. One person running this could potentially positively brighten the day of each person they ran into.

I was getting this 'celebrity' effect from UMS.

So this 'celebrity effect' directed towards emanating positivity into the hearts and minds of those around you, with perhaps a distance sniper/healing effect for those who need the love but are 'distanced' or not in the immediate vicinity.

@Shannon title suggestions:

Social Hub
Social Connector


Drumroll...

...wait for it....

Develop Maximum Social Interactivity (Or Ultimate Social Success)

These Social subs would be very useful right now.

But would they sell when we are dealing with enforced isolation in a lot of the parts of the world?
(12-11-2020, 07:50 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-10-2020, 03:46 PM)Omni3 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-10-2020, 12:27 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon with the new technology you're using to advance us into the 5.75.5G era do you believe it would be profitable to create a new version of Attract Positive Energy except imbue the program with technology that would allow the user to radiate positive energy to everyone around them? COVID-19 has made the world and everyone's outlook a bit gloomier so a subliminal designed to improve mood might be useful. The individual would ooze positive energy in much the same way that a person on DMSI is supposed to ooze sexuality. It would be your way of making everyone's holidays better. One person running this could potentially positively brighten the day of each person they ran into.

I was getting this 'celebrity' effect from UMS.

So this 'celebrity effect' directed towards emanating positivity into the hearts and minds of those around you, with perhaps a distance sniper/healing effect for those who need the love but are 'distanced' or not in the immediate vicinity.

@Shannon title suggestions:

Social Hub
Social Connector


Drumroll...

...wait for it....

Develop Maximum Social Interactivity (Or Ultimate Social Success)

These Social subs would be very useful right now.




But would they sell when we are dealing with enforced isolation in a lot of the parts of the world?

I think wether they sell or not right now should not be the main focus, because i can guarentee they will bring lots of new customers and cash along the aline,
aswell as positioning you in advance of the competitors in this niche since i have not found anywhere a really comprehensive subliminal focused only on being very socially charismatic and dominant.
(12-11-2020, 07:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-10-2020, 12:27 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon with the new technology you're using to advance us into the 5.75.5G era do you believe it would be profitable to create a new version of Attract Positive Energy except imbue the program with technology that would allow the user to radiate positive energy to everyone around them? COVID-19 has made the world and everyone's outlook a bit gloomier so a subliminal designed to improve mood might be useful. The individual would ooze positive energy in much the same way that a person on DMSI is supposed to ooze sexuality. It would be your way of making everyone's holidays better. One person running this could potentially positively brighten the day of each person they ran into.

My point of view is, very few people would buy that.  I like the idea, but between the number of people who don't believe in auras, and the number of people who could not run it because they're running something else, and the number of people who would be interested, the only way to make that sell would be to point the energy in a specific direction for the benefit of the user.  It's too nebulous a "reward" for the user otherwise.  I'm not sure what that focus would be.

Speaking of auras, I was literally (and when I say "literally", I mean literal use of the word) told by a coworker that I had a certain aura. The context of the conversation was that another coworker commented on my "presence".

For anybody who doubts the existence of auras, kirlian photography might be of interest. Through kirlian photography, you can even see how intent charged by emotion can change the color of the aura. It's pretty neat.
Hey Shannon - how about an upgrade of the forex trading sub ? or just generally make it a trading sub so it's less niche?
(12-11-2020, 09:29 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon - how about an upgrade of the forex trading sub ? or just generally make it a trading sub so it's less niche?

Honestly I think this is a good idea as well if it could be done quickly. People who wanted to use UMS for this can get a more focused version first to try to make money with then with those profits but UMS when it comes out. This might also be decent since it's pretty obvious that UMS might not be out for quite a while until all the current craziness is done with. This was the main reason I wanted to get the new UMS when it comes out in the first place. As to why people would by UMS latter if they are already doing well with this sub: UMS would obviously be upgraded with the latest technology, possibly even FRM 5.0 at that point and it would be more comprehensive than just being limited to just trading.
LOL Shannon, I was just joking with you based off your FAQ thread. I thought it was clear. Chalk it up to online text, versus in person communication. Fair enough.

No...things are nuts now. Worse here even, we seem to have a far more potent case of the arrogant entitled SJWs than you guys. Infested with this permanent victim mentality. It's like the Oppression Olympics here, everyone trying to out victim each other. Awful disempowering mindset. In many ways, I envy people south of the border, believe me. I don't want to delve further, I want to obey forum rules on politics. I think even this is over the line perhaps.

That said, to speak on subs, I understand your position. Many of these subs "seem interesting" on some level, sure. But, exactly, sex and money subs, mixed with some physical growth subs, are obviously FAR more attractive. I've talked about why in an earlier post a day or so ago, so I won't be redundant.

In a perfect world, I want a working DMSI a bit before people are widely vaccinated! That's been my dream, to work on OF hard until then, making good use of my time with OF to prepare for the eventual return to life and armed with a new working DMSI. But based off your words, that doesn't seem imminent, sadly.

So...I think my advice to you, is to finish OF V2, then dig yourself out of the LTU gauntlet you're in. That was a tough thing to throw yourself into. Then work on DMSI to fix the aura issue, and just build UMS. If you don't feel up to another multi-stage, go for IYPS! It'd sell a ton too. Either seems to be the only real play to make. I'd recommend upgrading E4 along the way, for an easy cash grab as well. Maybe even port over each stage of LTU for a fee too. That should give you decent income, but also allow you to not get overworked as porting over a script is easier than building one from essentially scratch. And guaranteed customers too as they're already customers of said products. Frees up most of your focus to focus on DMSI and UMS/IYPS.

I think this allows you to make money while digging in and building UMS/IYPS, while not being overworked and trying to do too much at once, that never seems to pan out I've noticed. I mentioned two titles there, UMS/IYPS, because I know both will sell, and because you may or may not want to do a multi-stage after LTU right away. Still not sure if the next IYPS will be a multi-stage or not, so I used it as an example of an easy-selling single stage.

Anyway, there's some ideas about roads forward. Can't wait to see 5.75.5G and OF V2, Shannon! Should be awesome.
(12-11-2020, 02:07 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-09-2020, 04:43 PM)Vasil Wrote: [ -> ]If I might add something to the conversation. There are two reasons in my opinion sales are slumping. Part of it, like Catman pointed out, involves the fact that some of the latest programs haven't been tested the same way 5G was, and the sales pages include a disclaimer along the lines of "We won't know the full extent of what this does until you use it." That encourages people to wait until other people report on its success.

The other issue is time. Many of the most desirable programs are now running around 6-8 months of use time. Some people like me, who have the disposable income and interest to experiment with subliminals, already have around 2 years of backlog of pre purchased programs to work through. E4 for example is going to take me until May to complete, and it makes no sense to buy the latest thing until I've had a chance to assess how that went.

I know in previous years @Shannon said he hoped to get 6G programs to start showing effects within hours rather than days and have a shorter use time. No idea if that's still considered possible, but being able to work through a subliminal faster would no doubt stimulate sales.

I’ll chime in with my 2 cents.

I agree. Me personally I’m waiting for the technology to improve to where I don’t have to listen more than 6 hours a day and the recommended usage is 3 months.

I think I need to clarify something here.  The old instructions stated that you should use the programs in 3 month blocks, for a minimum of 3 months.  That didn't mean you'd get the results, or the best results, in just 3 months.  It meant that you had to use it at least 3 months to be following the directions.

Then I started directly modeling the ideal usage times for each program.  That was when we started seeing instructions of 6, 7, 8 months at a time.  The goal is for you to get the best possible results.  Many people were assuming that "3 months minimum" meant "3 months total".  We may never get to what you're talking about.  I'm not yet finished developing 6G, but I'm not thinking that we're going to see a situation where we only need 6 or less hours a day and 3 or less months total unless I stop making the subs that have really difficult goals.  Even if I was to perfectly bypass all resistance, there are still limits on how fast we can make physical changes safely. and limits on how fast we can make changes to the mind and psyche safely.  These usage times have a lot to do with safe rates of change, as well as overcoming the resistance that is to be found at the deep levels of the subconscious, as well as the complexity and magnitude of the goal.  It may sound simple to "overcome fear", but it's not.  It may sound simple to "improve your eyesight", but it's not.  Most of what I'm doing and tackling goals wise is stuff that is hugely difficult and requires time.

Quote:Most people sleep between 6-8 hours a day.  Because of the ASRB we now have to be careful not to break that.  So the best way is to listen is while we sleep but if a sub requires more listening than your average sleep time and then you have to go to work that causes problems.

I still don't understand why it's so hard to play the program on your cell phone or a portable MP3 player.

Quote:The optimal for most people is play it while you sleep and forget it and when you wake up to go to work you’re already done.

Again... it doesn't have to be difficult if you just use a portable player, like a cell phone or an MP3 player.  

Quote:Also so many subs are 6-8 months.  I think most people wouldn’t mind a long time commitment if a sub requires short daily listening time and maybe 2-3 days a week max.  

The fact is, for the things you guys are asking me to make, these are the times needed to achieve the goals.  It's not like I'm choosing these times arbitrarily.  It's not like I'm trying to make programs that take so long to run.  But I am trying to build what you guys ask for, and that is what comes out.  If those times for usage aren't acceptable, then you should be choosing different programs.  I do my best to make the programs you guys ask for, and try to make them actually work.  The variables within my control are dealt with.  The rest, we have to work with.  

Quote:The other issue is pricing.  I think most people don’t like having to keep buying new versions every couple of months at full price.

I don't release new versions every couple months.  In the case of OF, I am only responding to a request, and the fact is, that request was made because the program works, but people want it to work faster and better.  I made it clear that it was going to be a full price release and you couldn't get a refund on v1 if you bought v2.  It was suggested to me as a way to please my customers and make money.  I'm only building it because of that.  I had no plans to do that originally.

Quote:Shannon should study this and see if maybe an update program would be better for him.  Pay $20-30 per update and see what would get him more customers investing than paying full price again.

That's great, except:
  • Most "updates" are free.  I don't make any money on them, if I am correcting something that was my mistake.  
  • Our policy is, and has always been, that if I rebuild a subliminal within the same generation of technology, it gets a discount.  
  • If I build a new version in a different technology generation, it is a new title and gets no discount.
If you don't want to pay full price again, don't!  There's nothing wrong with OF v1, and I didn't plan to rebuild it.  If you want v2, then you have to pay full price because there is no reason for me to rebuild it except that you guys asked for it.  If that's not cool for you, keep using v1!  It works just fine.


Quote:Last but not least is lack of exciting titles.  UMS for me has been the most exciting title in a while.  There’s so many healing titles but not enough stuff to deal with things like money and other things people want.

I build what you guys ask for, for the most part.  Most of you have been asking for healing titles.  Exciting isn't always the most important.  Especially when the foundation needs to be built and refined to be able to achieve other goals.  

Quote:For example the penis enlargement sub and the manifest your perfect whatever.  Everyone wants these subs but Shannon says they would take a long time to make (I don’t think he’s said the technology is not strong enough to make them work).  If sales is what he needs why not focus on one of those subs for 3 months, make it and maybe release another one quick sub using the Skelton script (like the eyesight one) to keep sales going while he works on the big seller?

I have said this before, and I will say it again.  Penis Enlargement is not about making it seem to get bigger, it's about making it bigger.  I figured out the problem with the old version.  The solution is very complicated and challenging. I don't want to build a program that only makes it seem to get bigger.  I want to build a program that actually does what it's supposed to do.  Right now. the majority of results people have gotten from the Penis Enlargement sub can be explained by that it simply causes the penis to inflate more fully with blood.  That's not real penis enlargement.  Real penis enlargement requires the tissues themselves to grow.  I know how to do that, but it's very challenging to do with that specific type of tissue, and will require more time than I can reasonably assign to it right now.  Therefore, it isn't a candidate for building until I have the time to do it right.  It's sometimes that I need to do a lot of research, and sometimes the script will take a long time to develop.  In some cases, the technology needs advancement.  But focusing on one sub for 3 months would not work, because then I would have no income for 2-3 months.  That's why LTUv6 is still being built.  

The "quick" subs are getting harder and harder to find, and they aren't doing their job anymore.  People either don't want them because they're not "exciting" or they're busy doing something else.  What I need to do is find something that can be used in-the-moment, but most of that is stuff that I'm worried about releasing because of how likely it is to get pirated, how irresponsible people (pirates) are these days and how nobody is expected to take personal responsibility anymore.  You wouldn't believe some of the stuff I have developed for experimental purposes, and then instead of being able to sell it, I have had to put it in the vault for those reasons.

Quote:One advantage I see with the MYP subs is that Shannon once he makes one with the latest technology he could quickly make a myp blonde gf, or redhead gf or so many of the other titles in the MYP catalog.  So even more sales.

What you're failing to understand is that at these levels of complexity, "quickly" is 2-3 days of 12+ hours of work a day, if everything goes right, for EACH subliminal I build.  Even if the script only changes by using a different hair color description.  The build process takes 24 to 36 hours per program.  And the only way to shorten that is to go back to 5G, 4G, etc. or to have software created to speed things up, which I cannot write and which, for various reasons, I cannot have written for me at this time.  So MYP subs would not be anywhere near as easy to do as you seem to think.  These are not 4G days, when I could make a program in 2-3 hours from start to finish and do several in a day.

There are good reasons why we (I, IML, etc.) are in the situation we are in.  And at this point, one of a very short list of things has to change before any of this will.  This isn't the situation I was trying to end up in.
(12-11-2020, 05:15 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon probably it is best to make a pool to see what are people willing to buy these days and send the link on all  e-mails that ever have purchased anything from the store,so people could vote, man that would not be the first time, that is the best idea, if not you are wasting health, energy, time and money.

I bet the IYE will sell once things start to go to normal, or a new normal in the world, I think people are in Fear of everything these days and, I do not know how many copies OF did you sell...but in my opinion OF should sell like crazy, on the forum we write a lot, but have you put on the sale page that the run of OF will enable smoother rides of all other subs, or that the OF is definitely a starter sub or....ecc?
Cause not all persons are forum members, and probably 50% of people who come first time in the shop will not bother to join on the forum or even go to the forum to read (cause people are like that, looking for a fast fix)?
So where will they read all the benefits of YOUR subliminals in general?
Every person will be attracted to different things...

Personally I'm  interested in the universal healing program, but I have not finished buying LTU, plus, I'm on OF till april, and after that will run MHS and after that LTU... so, I have basically a Year of subs, not to mention older titles I want to listen but do not have the time right now.

Can you allow yourself a month break from everything (work&forum) and just relax and heal?

Unfortunately, no.  I would have done that already otherwise.

Quote:If you can, go for it, cause from what I read on the forum, you are too exhausted to work on what you need to work, plus a lot of the people on the forum keeps asking same questions all over again witch is:
a) annoying
b) time consuming
c) energy draining

I am aware that you are thinking what is best for the user and for yourself, and that you want to be "close" to the users but you know it and I do not have to say it, just a reminder, exhaustment does not lead anywhere.

There are times when you don't have a choice.  I'm doing everything in my power to avoid burnout and exhaustion.  I even took an extra day off yesterday, which was great.  The circumstances of today have completely undone whatever rest I got yesterday, and that's what I'm talking about.  I cannot afford to take a vacation in time or money, and I keep having my efforts undone in virtually every direction I turn trying to make progress with resting, relaxing, etc.

People expect from you that you work like a bee on 100 of different titles and to finish all at once ("when will be this and when will be that") it leads to burn out.

I am not that often on the forum anymore, but every time I come, I see that people are leading you to a lot of different directions....

Sorry Shannon I know you did not ask me anything, but I guess I wanted to say slow down a bit, your health is important.[/quote]

I appreciate your sentiment, but this period of time is one in which my options are very limited and my hands are tied in terms of trying to find a solution while I constantly scramble to make progress.  

Quote:And for the users give this guy a break, he is trying to please you all, and if he is not good, that means no more goodies for you people.

I wish it was that simple a solution.
(12-11-2020, 09:29 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon - how about an upgrade of the forex trading sub ? or just generally make it a trading sub so it's less niche?

I think a trading sub is probably do-able.  Not a  bad idea, I'll put it in my list for consideration, thank you.
(12-11-2020, 10:55 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]LOL Shannon, I was just joking with you based off your FAQ thread. I thought it was clear. Chalk it up to online text, versus in person communication. Fair enough.

No...things are nuts now. Worse here even, we seem to have a far more potent case of the arrogant entitled SJWs than you guys. Infested with this permanent victim mentality. It's like the Oppression Olympics here, everyone trying to out victim each other. Awful disempowering mindset. In many ways, I envy people south of the border, believe me. I don't want to delve further, I want to obey forum rules on politics. I think even this is over the line perhaps.

That said, to speak on subs, I understand your position. Many of these subs "seem interesting" on some level, sure. But, exactly, sex and money subs, mixed with some physical growth subs, are obviously FAR more attractive. I've talked about why in an earlier post a day or so ago, so I won't be redundant.

In a perfect world, I want a working DMSI a bit before people are widely vaccinated! That's been my dream, to work on OF hard until then, making good use of my time with OF to prepare for the eventual return to life and armed with a new working DMSI. But based off your words, that doesn't seem imminent, sadly.

So...I think my advice to you, is to finish OF V2, then dig yourself out of the LTU gauntlet you're in. That was a tough thing to throw yourself into. Then work on DMSI to fix the aura issue, and just build UMS. If you don't feel up to another multi-stage, go for IYPS! It'd sell a ton too. Either seems to be the only real play to make. I'd recommend upgrading E4 along the way, for an easy cash grab as well. Maybe even port over each stage of LTU for a fee too. That should give you decent income, but also allow you to not get overworked as porting over a script is easier than building one from essentially scratch. And guaranteed customers too as they're already customers of said products. Frees up most of your focus to focus on DMSI and UMS/IYPS.

I think this allows you to make money while digging in and building UMS/IYPS, while not being overworked and trying to do too much at once, that never seems to pan out I've noticed. I mentioned two titles there, UMS/IYPS, because I know both will sell, and because you may or may not want to do a multi-stage after LTU right away. Still not sure if the next IYPS will be a multi-stage or not, so I used it as an example of an easy-selling single stage.

Anyway, there's some ideas about roads forward. Can't wait to see 5.75.5G and OF V2, Shannon! Should be awesome.

Glad you were just kidding.  It did not translate.  

Right now I am struggling to get this module worded.  The first time I started working on it - it was going to be released in DMSI 3.3.3 - I got derailed.

Then it simply disappeared, all mention of it, from my scripts, records and notes, as if I had never even worked on it.

Then I started over from scratch and three days of work in, wondering the whole time why the models were suddenly telling me over and over that it would not work all of a sudden, I figured out why... and had to scrap everything and start over again.  

Now I'm dealing with chaos in other directions that's effectively making it impossible for me to even work.  So I'm hoping that sometime today I can start again on that module that will make 5.75.5G possible, but right now, forget it.  I have spent all morning calming down from what went wrong just this morning, and it's going to take a significant amount of time until I can work again.  Maybe UMS will help, I think I'll start using that.

Anyway... off to the races.  Hopefully the world pulls its head out of it's rear end and we can all stop with the victim mentality insanity that's swamping us all right now.
(12-11-2020, 10:59 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I think I need to clarify something here.  The old instructions stated that you should use the programs in 3 month blocks, for a minimum of 3 months.  That didn't mean you'd get the results, or the best results, in just 3 months.  It meant that you had to use it at least 3 months to be following the directions.

Then I started directly modeling the ideal usage times for each program.  That was when we started seeing instructions of 6, 7, 8 months at a time.  The goal is for you to get the best possible results.  Many people were assuming that "3 months minimum" meant "3 months total".  We may never get to what you're talking about.  I'm not yet finished developing 6G, but I'm not thinking that we're going to see a situation where we only need 6 or less hours a day and 3 or less months total unless I stop making the subs that have really difficult goals.  Even if I was to perfectly bypass all resistance, there are still limits on how fast we can make physical changes safely. and limits on how fast we can make changes to the mind and psyche safely.  These usage times have a lot to do with safe rates of change, as well as overcoming the resistance that is to be found at the deep levels of the subconscious, as well as the complexity and magnitude of the goal.  It may sound simple to "overcome fear", but it's not.  It may sound simple to "improve your eyesight", but it's not.  Most of what I'm doing and tackling goals wise is stuff that is hugely difficult and requires time.

Here is a suggestion then that could improve the # of sales. Combine the 2 metrics.

Mention minimum period and optimal period.

By having only the optimal period, I feel like you are essentially locking potential buyers from buying another program for a very long period of time. Maybe some people would be ready to move on to other subs if they knew the minimum period.
One more thing which is very important that I forgot to mention in my summary.

Only being able to listen to one sub at a time.

When you have such a long time commitment for each sub and you can only use one that can deter a lot of people from buying other subs.

You tell someone you can only listen to this sub for 6-8 months to get results then maybe that person is not going to buy other subs until they finish with this first sub.  Specially now a days when sub upgrades are not free.  So the smart thing to do is to purchase one sub and run it as opposed to the old days where we could buy a bunch of subs without fear of them becoming outdated in a few months and having to pay for an upgrade.

The technology at the moment doesn’t allow this but I do think he should focus time on finding ways to make it work (I remember he said it is possible in the future).

If you can imagine running three 5.75g subs of which each require only 3 hours of listening time a day.  I think most people would be buying way more subs.

We can hope and dream things get to this point.

I wish I could be listening to multiple subs right now (which means more money for Shannon) but in order to do that he would need to get daily listening times very short for most subs.
(12-11-2020, 11:19 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-11-2020, 09:29 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon - how about an upgrade of the forex trading sub ? or just generally make it a trading sub so it's less niche?

I think a trading sub is probably do-able.  Not a  bad idea, I'll put it in my list for consideration, thank you.
I would buy that immediately since I trade.

Some ideas:

- It shouldn’t be forex specific since not all of us trade forex.  Some people trade stocks, some trade Crypto. This is doable as all traders wether it be stocks, forex or crypto we all look at stock charts and indicators.  The method of analyzing assets is universal (charts).  

The sub should focus on 

- Making us masters at analyzing charts and spotting opportunities and set ups
- Emotion control when trading to make the right decisions
- Money management so we don’t risk more than we should and become disciplined traders 
- Luck magnet designed to lead us to lots of opportunities for big profits  


And of course super important  

-  UMS specific to trading  to turn us into profitable traders.
Quote:I would buy that immediately since I trade.

Some ideas:

- It shouldn’t be forex specific since not all of us trade forex.  Some people trade stocks, some trade Crypto. This is doable as all traders wether it be stocks, forex or crypto we all look at stock charts and indicators.  The method of analyzing assets is universal (charts).  

The sub should focus on 

- Making us masters at analyzing charts and spotting opportunities and set ups
- Emotion control when trading to make the right decisions
- Money management so we don’t risk more than we should and become disciplined traders 
- Luck magnet designed to lead us to lots of opportunities for big profits  


And of course super important  

-  UMS specific to trading  to turn us into profitable traders.

I think also just as a main point it should include something to make it so that different parts of your subconscious that know pertinent information can communicate that in someway or guide the conscious mind to taking actions that results in very profitable trades. Only mention that since obviously the subconscious is aware of different things the conscious doesn't (such as it not seeing time exactly the same, etc).

If I were to say it another way a program that just focuses you on making highly profitable but accurate trades. Instead of just focusing on making sure you make a certain amount of trades a day maybe with the help of your subconscious you are able to just zero in on the 1-2 trades that will pay off the most at that time or the long term if someone is a more long term trader.
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