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(06-28-2021, 08:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2021, 04:19 PM)ffaux Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2021, 10:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2021, 03:19 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I did my first 3 loop listen (US at night) and woke feeling relaxed and bliss so thought I should increase the intensity.

How would you advise I do that please? and when, after this cycle of 3 loops is completed or shall I increase it straight away?

Ive done the 1st day ON. Tonight will be 2nd day ON. Then I have 2 days off.

ill now go update my journal about this.

If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

If I wake up every morning feeling stressed and anxious with tension in my neck and shoulders, should I increase exposure, or just keep going? I’m following the base instructions of 1 loop for 2 days, followed by 3 days off

I suggest that you increase the loops by one for the next ASRB2 cycle.

I've been listening to 2 loops for 2 days, followed by 3 days off since you suggested the change. The stress and tension has returned (but happily not the anxiety). Should I add another loop? I have no auto config signs like craving to listen more. If anything, I feel like I'm getting tired, and want a rest.
(08-18-2021, 11:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-17-2021, 09:40 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Happy belated birthday, Shannon!

Congrats on the impending store release as well. I know full well how hard this kind of thing is, believe me. I know it's a massive pain in the ass. It's insane the amount of crap that goes wrong during such things...

I saw your post about a possible release of DMSI for Oct/Nov now. I have to admit, seeing it constantly pushed back for "reasons" is frustrating beyond words. Given the history of it constantly being pushed back, even that Oct/Nov figure is very anxiety-inducing. You again mentioned the "need to keep the business going" thing, but yet I've tabled at least twice the idea of us paying full price to simply just have it finished once and for all. So I thought I'd bring that up again, given that UMS is finally being closed out now.

Trust me, it's BEYOND worth it to finally have it settled once and for all without seemingly endless pushbacks of it's release. I'm sure I speak for many others who are so fatigued with this. Let's just wrap it up, even if it requires another purchase to "grease the wheels" so it's finally done. Completely fine with this. To me, there's only one program that is more important to me as you know, that one is a ways off. Not counting ME of course lol, still eager to hear reports of that.

Shannon, I'm just trying to get DMSI done, AND give you another obvious winner for you to make that sweet $$$ off of. Since I've gone to the OF well twice and helped spark OF V2 and OF V3, I can't go back to the OF well AGAIN a 3rd time so fast, LMAO. I can't think of another sub than DMSI that can bring you in a good chunk of money, and it would also finally get it complete which is what so many of us are dying for once and for all. Please take this to heart.

All the best, my friend. Hope your birthday was good, and you had a boss steak.

Thanks for the input.  I actually had a great birthday, GF pulled one out of the hat for sure.  I didn't have steak, though, I had snow crab, fish, shrimp and scallops.  My other loves.  Smile

There's no way I can start working on DMSI sooner than mid September no matter what I do.  I have to finish the store this month, get it going, get bugs worked out and so forth, and what I am working on right now in the background in the little spare time I have is an experimental prototype that will be useful for building DMSI.  This prototype is not intended for sale - it's developing an experimental technology and an experimental approach to solving something that's been challenging me for a long time.  I chose to work on this while the store was taking up most of my time because the result is going to be a more advanced skeleton script, and on top of that because the side effect is that if I can make this work the way I want it to, I should be able to translate that into useful for improving DMSI.

I guess when you look at it that way, I am working on DMSI.  Just not directly.

What comes out of this research and development experimental program may become 5.8G, also.  

I'm doing what I can, but the situation is really much like having my arm pinned behind my back right now.  The new store is going to free me up a lot and the end of dev on UMSv2 is going to free me up a lot also.

My bday is mid-Sept., guess I'll be a 40 year old you know what then LOL...oof. Oh well, with this situation we're in, it isn't practical to expect that to change within a few weeks. Not exactly an ideal environment for meeting, especially here, lol. It's brutal and taking a turn for the worse again. So if I can't have the new DMSI for my bday, at least it being focused on will be a nice consolation present, haha.

As long as it's ACTUALLY worked on mid-Sept. in a dedicated fashion from then on until completion a month or so later like I think was stated before, that is wonderful and exciting to hear. UMS got in the way, the new store now got in the way, other stuff before that that I've forgotten about by now lol, got in the way. It's more of the constant pushbacks, like two years or so now, that have been maddening. It'll be a big relief to have the upgrades concluded, for all, I'm sure.

Potential of 5.8G is interesting to see. Curious what the experimental prototype for 5.8G is for. Very exciting, any step towards 6G makes me smile. So cool to see another step forward!
Happy birthday @Shannon , may all your wishes that you wish to yourself come true!!!
(08-18-2021, 11:31 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]DMSI 3.4 is going to be designed to work in two ways.  One should be long term/permanent effect, and one will fade without use.  No matter what I do, you're never going to project the aura without being constantly instructed to do so.  That is just the way things work.
That is perfectly reasonable.
(08-18-2021, 01:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-18-2021, 01:28 PM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Happy birthday Shannon, glad to hear things are a bit more chipper in your life.

But fark, been off this forum for a while and log on thinking you know what I'ma buy UMS now only to find it's likely going to jump up in price massively.

Such is life i guess, I'll have to do this subscription business until UMS helps me bank enough to buy the damn thing.,  Also subscription? when I mentioned this as an Idea to help you out with cashflow in between subs Shannon you growled at me asking saying something like 'don't you think we would have done that already if we thought that was a good idea?'.

Thank you for the birthday wishes!  

I believe said we would have done subscriptions if it was POSSIBLE.  At that time, it was for various reasons not yet possible.  I liked the idea, but was very frustrated that I could not use it.  I had the idea before that, and checked it out, which is how I knew it wasn't yet possible.  No growling intended.  Smile

The store will open with current prices in place, and they will be in place for 1 day.  After that, it will go up.  So you still have  chance to get the current price on UMSv2.

We have most of the issues worked out I think, a couple more to address  we seem to currently be missing a few programs in 5.75.xG and figuring out how to make it possible to get everyone's account re-activated.  Aside from that we appear to have everything else working as desired.  Store should open sometime tomorrow (19th) if things go my way.  It will be ASAP regardless.

Amazing Shannon, thanks.
(08-18-2021, 09:12 PM)ffaux Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-28-2021, 08:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2021, 04:19 PM)ffaux Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2021, 10:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2021, 03:19 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I did my first 3 loop listen (US at night) and woke feeling relaxed and bliss so thought I should increase the intensity.

How would you advise I do that please? and when, after this cycle of 3 loops is completed or shall I increase it straight away?

Ive done the 1st day ON. Tonight will be 2nd day ON. Then I have 2 days off.

ill now go update my journal about this.

If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

If I wake up every morning feeling stressed and anxious with tension in my neck and shoulders, should I increase exposure, or just keep going? I’m following the base instructions of 1 loop for 2 days, followed by 3 days off

I suggest that you increase the loops by one for the next ASRB2 cycle.

I've been listening to 2 loops for 2 days, followed by 3 days off since you suggested the change. The stress and tension has returned (but happily not the anxiety). Should I add another loop? I have no auto config signs like craving to listen more. If anything, I feel like I'm getting tired, and want a rest.

The first change you make should be to reduce days off by 1 and add one loop.  Run that for a cycle of on/off days and then if you're still not getting anything, keep adding a loop each ASRB2 cycle until you do.
(08-18-2021, 10:01 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-18-2021, 11:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-17-2021, 09:40 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Happy belated birthday, Shannon!

Congrats on the impending store release as well. I know full well how hard this kind of thing is, believe me. I know it's a massive pain in the ass. It's insane the amount of crap that goes wrong during such things...

I saw your post about a possible release of DMSI for Oct/Nov now. I have to admit, seeing it constantly pushed back for "reasons" is frustrating beyond words. Given the history of it constantly being pushed back, even that Oct/Nov figure is very anxiety-inducing. You again mentioned the "need to keep the business going" thing, but yet I've tabled at least twice the idea of us paying full price to simply just have it finished once and for all. So I thought I'd bring that up again, given that UMS is finally being closed out now.

Trust me, it's BEYOND worth it to finally have it settled once and for all without seemingly endless pushbacks of it's release. I'm sure I speak for many others who are so fatigued with this. Let's just wrap it up, even if it requires another purchase to "grease the wheels" so it's finally done. Completely fine with this. To me, there's only one program that is more important to me as you know, that one is a ways off. Not counting ME of course lol, still eager to hear reports of that.

Shannon, I'm just trying to get DMSI done, AND give you another obvious winner for you to make that sweet $$$ off of. Since I've gone to the OF well twice and helped spark OF V2 and OF V3, I can't go back to the OF well AGAIN a 3rd time so fast, LMAO. I can't think of another sub than DMSI that can bring you in a good chunk of money, and it would also finally get it complete which is what so many of us are dying for once and for all. Please take this to heart.

All the best, my friend. Hope your birthday was good, and you had a boss steak.

Thanks for the input.  I actually had a great birthday, GF pulled one out of the hat for sure.  I didn't have steak, though, I had snow crab, fish, shrimp and scallops.  My other loves.  Smile

There's no way I can start working on DMSI sooner than mid September no matter what I do.  I have to finish the store this month, get it going, get bugs worked out and so forth, and what I am working on right now in the background in the little spare time I have is an experimental prototype that will be useful for building DMSI.  This prototype is not intended for sale - it's developing an experimental technology and an experimental approach to solving something that's been challenging me for a long time.  I chose to work on this while the store was taking up most of my time because the result is going to be a more advanced skeleton script, and on top of that because the side effect is that if I can make this work the way I want it to, I should be able to translate that into useful for improving DMSI.

I guess when you look at it that way, I am working on DMSI.  Just not directly.

What comes out of this research and development experimental program may become 5.8G, also.  

I'm doing what I can, but the situation is really much like having my arm pinned behind my back right now.  The new store is going to free me up a lot and the end of dev on UMSv2 is going to free me up a lot also.

My bday is mid-Sept., guess I'll be a 40 year old you know what then LOL...oof. Oh well, with this situation we're in, it isn't practical to expect that to change within a few weeks. Not exactly an ideal environment for meeting, especially here, lol. It's brutal and taking a turn for the worse again. So if I can't have the new DMSI for my bday, at least it being focused on will be a nice consolation present, haha.

As long as it's ACTUALLY worked on mid-Sept. in a dedicated fashion from then on until completion a month or so later like I think was stated before, that is wonderful and exciting to hear. UMS got in the way, the new store now got in the way, other stuff before that that I've forgotten about by now lol, got in the way. It's more of the constant pushbacks, like two years or so now, that have been maddening. It'll be a big relief to have the upgrades concluded, for all, I'm sure.

Potential of 5.8G is interesting to see. Curious what the experimental prototype for 5.8G is for. Very exciting, any step towards 6G makes me smile. So cool to see another step forward!

All the major negative cycle BS seems to be coming back to an up-swing, and things are changing for the better, but until the new store started being worked on (and since about January even after that) it's just been bailing as fast as I can and patching as fast as I can while the ship slowly sinks because I can't do the work of 2 or 3 people, with no options for actually solving things.  The new store and subscriptions will sole a LOT of issues, but they're also creating a lot of issues as well.  Every step we make forward, three more issues pop up.  I'm sure you know how that works.  Right now we are down to basically the last two issues, and once those are solved all we have to do is re-create the last 4-5 products released and make them downloadable or subscribable.  But this has been an exercise in madness trying to figure all this out.  If I wasn't already bald I would be now.

We are still not ready to open the store, and may not even be tomorrow.  But we are doing everything we can, so please bear with us.

As for DMSI, I don't mind working on it next, but I have to have the store finished being readied and we have to understand how all these new systems work together to make it possible to create new products.  That is obviously going to take priority.  Then I have to finish UMSv2 Stage 4.

All this will get done.  It makes me want to bash my head into a concrete wall right now, but it will get done.

The step from 5.75.7G to 5.8G is primarily optimizing the skeleton script so far.  Not sure how obvious that will end up being, but it'll have an important positive impact on how and how well the programs work regardless.
(08-18-2021, 11:22 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]Happy birthday @Shannon , may all your wishes that you wish to yourself come true!!!

Thank you.  In that case, I wish the new store was fully functional, and we understood how to add new products and solve customer issues.  And it was open.  Smile
(08-18-2021, 07:35 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

After the store, UMS and DMSi, would you consider making a Self Worth/ Deservedness sub?

I cannot make commitments into the future.  That's how I got myself in trouble with UMS and DMSI.  So when all that is done, remind me and we'll look at it under the circumstances at that time.
(08-19-2021, 12:19 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-18-2021, 09:12 PM)ffaux Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-28-2021, 08:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2021, 04:19 PM)ffaux Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2021, 10:52 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

If I wake up every morning feeling stressed and anxious with tension in my neck and shoulders, should I increase exposure, or just keep going? I’m following the base instructions of 1 loop for 2 days, followed by 3 days off

I suggest that you increase the loops by one for the next ASRB2 cycle.

I've been listening to 2 loops for 2 days, followed by 3 days off since you suggested the change. The stress and tension has returned (but happily not the anxiety). Should I add another loop? I have no auto config signs like craving to listen more. If anything, I feel like I'm getting tired, and want a rest.

The first change you make should be to reduce days off by 1 and add one loop.  Run that for a cycle of on/off days and then if you're still not getting anything, keep adding a loop each ASRB2 cycle until you do.

So just to clarify, if I’m feeling tension in my body, or stress, your diagnosis is to increase the intensity one cycle at a time until the tension and stress fades?

On a separate but related note, the tension and stress often feels like I have pent up anger or hate. Recently I also experienced guilt from taking an action after the fear faded. What do I do with these feelings?
(08-19-2021, 01:03 PM)ffaux Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-19-2021, 12:19 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-18-2021, 09:12 PM)ffaux Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-28-2021, 08:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-27-2021, 04:19 PM)ffaux Wrote: [ -> ]If I wake up every morning feeling stressed and anxious with tension in my neck and shoulders, should I increase exposure, or just keep going? I’m following the base instructions of 1 loop for 2 days, followed by 3 days off

I suggest that you increase the loops by one for the next ASRB2 cycle.

I've been listening to 2 loops for 2 days, followed by 3 days off since you suggested the change. The stress and tension has returned (but happily not the anxiety). Should I add another loop? I have no auto config signs like craving to listen more. If anything, I feel like I'm getting tired, and want a rest.

The first change you make should be to reduce days off by 1 and add one loop.  Run that for a cycle of on/off days and then if you're still not getting anything, keep adding a loop each ASRB2 cycle until you do.

So just to clarify, if I’m feeling tension in my body, or stress, your diagnosis is to increase the intensity one cycle at a time until the tension and stress fades?

On a separate but related note, the tension and stress often feels like I have pent up anger or hate. Recently I also experienced guilt from taking an action after the fear faded. What do I do with these feelings?

It's not a diagnosis, because I am not a doctor.  It's an assessment that you feel stress because you aren't using enough input to override the tension created by the parts of you trying to prevent the program from achieving its goals.  

I have found that whenever I use a subliminal "almost enough", and there is resistance from my inner child or some other subconscious aspect of myself, there is frequently an anger response that results because it does not want to change and gets angry at being pushed so hard to.  When you increase the exposure sufficiently, the cooperative parts override this and the change happens with a lot less stress, etc.  So most likely all you need to do is just find your sweet spot for exposure.
(08-18-2021, 07:33 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-18-2021, 02:06 PM)Omni3 Wrote: [ -> ]Belated birthday greetings @Shannon  and all the best for this next phase of IML. May the subscriptions keep the wolf from the door and allow you to grow IML....


Now about that ......affiliate program......You can of course set the condition that an affiliate's commissions are withheld for a certain period, and/or choose affiliates from an 'inner circle' who are more closely associated with SubShop/Talk... like our brethren right here on the forum.

Thank you.

Affiliates would need to be much more closely monitored than just that.  But I'll bring up affiliates in the next staff meeting.  So far the last few times it has come up, there were a lot of good reasons not to have an affiliate program.  We'll see if that has changed, and if there is a way to implement it if it has.


@Shannon
There's also other ways to 'growth hack' - Viral Loops has inspiring insights in this area:
https://viral-loops.com/blog/word-of-mouth-marketing/


They have many other industry examples of growth hacking campaigns worth a look - these avoid the problems you have encountered with affiliates.

Imagine this:
You create a giveaway/prize-draw campaign to help spread the word about IML. You have a top 'prize' of a flagship program like UMS/AM/LTU/5.8G-program etc. The 2nd prize could be a 5.5G program. The 3rd place prize could be a years subscription to a program of their choice.

As any one of these programs is very valuable it will inspire participants to 'share' IML promos. Eg each social share could give an extra entry to the prize draw. The more entries a participant has the greater chance they have of winning something.

Now imagine how much more gung ho participants will be if you had 3xfirst prizes, 5x2nd prizes and 10x 3rd prizes - with a total prize fund of "X thousands" and an increased chance of winning. This will be a true viral growth program.

Similar things have happened with many everyday names you've heard of - Uber, Harry's, DropBox etc.

All possible with a service like Viral Loops.

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Coming back to affiliate program - if you list your subs on Clickbank it may help mitigate against a lot of your concerns as Clickbank have been in the affiliate game a long time so I dare say they have a lot of measures in place to detect 'click fraud' and strange buyer patterns etc - just a thought.


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More to talk about at your next staff meeting... Onwards and upwards - and 6Gwards
Wow, the store migration is taking long. I feel for Shannon and Steve, it must be very stressful.
I am still positive that it will be a big improvement once it’s done.

I assume that leaving the old store up while the migration took place was not an option?
"Then I have to finish UMSv2 Stage 4" ---



Cant wait to wear the hell outta this mug. its gonna have more mileage than a AMC 1978 Gremlin !! Oil change ,my ass.
Im gittin' it done John Wayne!! Ha!!
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