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(03-26-2021, 07:58 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks Shannon. It's clear you have a level of insight into things that can't be elaborated too much in a public forum. Can I ask what led you to the understanding you have? was it teachers, books, realisations through your work?

And how would someone like me progress along a path of better understanding?

I have experience, teachers, those who guide and advise me, books, observations, contemplation, a good brain, some interesting memories and more to account for my current level of understanding.  Many things contributed.  Nobody is an island, and nobody is just one thing, or the result of just one thing.

Progressing along the path to better, deeper and higher levels of understanding is done as you might expect.  Seek out sources of knowledge and wisdom.  Seek out useful experiences.  But first and most importantly, seek out how to know what is true, vs what is misunderstood, vs what is partially true, vs what is wholly untrue vs. what is intended to mislead through partial or whole untruth.  That is the most difficult and important part of your journey.  Discerning the truth.

Remember that there is only one living being in the entirety of existence, and with that knowledge, treat that being well.  Be kind, understanding, loving, forgiving and wise.  Seek to make this world a better place when you leave it than when you arrived.  Attune yourself to love and positive energy.  That will attract to you what and who you need to advance.  When you are lost, ask for guidance.  When you are experiencing abundance, use your abundance to make the world better.  Teach the hungry man to fish instead of giving him a fish.  Empower yourself and others.  Resist the urge to pettiness and selfishness.  See money for what it really is.  Understand greed, fear and hate.  Know how to heal and neutralize them.  Do so.  Heal and forgive yourself, that you may know how to heal and forgive others.  Be patient with those who refuse your help.  Be patient with yourself.  Allow yourself to make mistakes, but always learn from and improve from your mistakes, and never make them again.  Be the change you wish to see in the world.  Be as water when necessary, and as granite when necessary.  Contemplate your self, know yourself, master yourself.  Pass on what you understand, and help others advance.  Teaching is the best way to learn.  And attune yourself to what you seek and what you wish to experience.

Hopefully, this gives you some wind at your back.
Does Sleep Magic offer a 30 day refund?
https://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/sleep-magic/

Thanks
(03-26-2021, 11:21 AM)reki Wrote: [ -> ]Does Sleep Magic offer a 30 day refund?
https://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/sleep-magic/

Thanks

Yes.
Hey Shannon, could AOL have physical healing effects on the body? Also, does the aura work for long distance relationships?
(03-26-2021, 01:46 PM)sushi521 Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon, could AOL have physical healing effects on the body?

Could?  Yes.  Do I know for sure f it will, or under what circumstances?  No.

Quote: Also, does the aura work for long distance relationships?

This program generates what is known as a "local passive aura".  In other words, it does not employ any "snipers" and it is not actively trying to influence others.  It is possible that it could affect someone at a distance, if you are connected to them with sufficient emotion of the right type, but this seems to me to be more likely to be a result of it affecting you and then you connecting to them and transferring that loving energy through the energetic connection forged by the natuure of the relationship and the mutual focus on one another.
Hi @Shannon,

Do you plan on making - anytime in the near future - a sub similar to AOL, but with an internal focus?

Similar to how ASC develops self-confidence, but like an "Absolute Love" sub for developing self-love / love of others / non-specific love?

I'm guessing that it would be relatively easy to produce.

I would love to see a sub like that (no pun intended Wink ) and I'd purchase it on the spot.
(03-26-2021, 09:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-26-2021, 07:58 AM)Darwin Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks Shannon. It's clear you have a level of insight into things that can't be elaborated too much in a public forum. Can I ask what led you to the understanding you have? was it teachers, books, realisations through your work?

And how would someone like me progress along a path of better understanding?

I have experience, teachers, those who guide and advise me, books, observations, contemplation, a good brain, some interesting memories and more to account for my current level of understanding.  Many things contributed.  Nobody is an island, and nobody is just one thing, or the result of just one thing.

Progressing along the path to better, deeper and higher levels of understanding is done as you might expect.  Seek out sources of knowledge and wisdom.  Seek out useful experiences.  But first and most importantly, seek out how to know what is true, vs what is misunderstood, vs what is partially true, vs what is wholly untrue vs. what is intended to mislead through partial or whole untruth.  That is the most difficult and important part of your journey.  Discerning the truth.

Remember that there is only one living being in the entirety of existence, and with that knowledge, treat that being well.  Be kind, understanding, loving, forgiving and wise.  Seek to make this world a better place when you leave it than when you arrived.  Attune yourself to love and positive energy.  That will attract to you what and who you need to advance.  When you are lost, ask for guidance.  When you are experiencing abundance, use your abundance to make the world better.  Teach the hungry man to fish instead of giving him a fish.  Empower yourself and others.  Resist the urge to pettiness and selfishness.  See money for what it really is.  Understand greed, fear and hate.  Know how to heal and neutralize them.  Do so.  Heal and forgive yourself, that you may know how to heal and forgive others.  Be patient with those who refuse your help.  Be patient with yourself.  Allow yourself to make mistakes, but always learn from and improve from your mistakes, and never make them again.  Be the change you wish to see in the world.  Be as water when necessary, and as granite when necessary.  Contemplate your self, know yourself, master yourself.  Pass on what you understand, and help others advance.  Teaching is the best way to learn.  And attune yourself to what you seek and what you wish to experience.

Hopefully, this gives you some wind at your back.

Wow. I haven't seen anything like this from you in a while.

This is excellent.
(03-26-2021, 07:24 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-26-2021, 02:32 AM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]"If this isn't TID from Aura of Love, then I don't know what's going on... but if it is TID, then you guys are in for one hell of a treat!"

@Shannon


From what you describe in your journal, it sounds like textbook DMSI execution, but minus the user-side compulsion. Not to reach into the realm of disbelievability (a word I just invented), but as the sole creator of these subs, it seems likely that your subconscious holds all of them, and can probably selectively execute any of them that it finds useful to accomplish whatever goals it's interested in. Of Course this is just a theory in terms of TLD, but it's fun to think about either way.

My subconscious differs from yours but little at the level of the focus into the physical world.  While I indeed subconsciously know every word that goes into every one of these programs, that does not mean that those words are being executed as a subliminal for me all the time.  If that were the case, I would never have to run any subliminal but once, and having run so many would make me an eternally exhausted pile of jelly. As for selective execution, you must remember MIR: no matter what I do, it still requires actually listening to it to get the execution you need.  The subconscious does what it has to do, nothing more.  That includes executing subliminals.  That is why I have to use DMSI to get DMSI's effects, just like you.

Hm, I can't tell if this is dejavu or i've suggested something like this in the past. What I'm thinking about now is something along the lines of how someone can create a script in a coding language, which can then be executed to do something after it is added to a system (your subconscious, for instance). Since our goal is implanting beliefs (subconscious scripts), once we are programmed with the particular string of commands, should we be able to consciously decide to "run DMSI 3.1", I wonder...In your example, I wouldn't think you'd be exhausted because with instant-on kind of effects like Auras or healing in a sense you can run scripts as needed, and conserve system resources when they aren't. Wishful thinking on my part, perhaps Tongue
(03-26-2021, 05:57 PM)TheGreatAttractor Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon,

Do you plan on making - anytime in the near future - a sub similar to AOL, but with an internal focus?

Similar to how ASC develops self-confidence, but like an "Absolute Love" sub for developing self-love / love of others / non-specific love?

I'm guessing that it would be relatively easy to produce.

I would love to see a sub like that (no pun intended Wink ) and I'd purchase it on the spot.

I don't think we need to make that program, because so far all indications are that AOL does that already.  Let's see how it plays out.
(03-27-2021, 05:35 AM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-26-2021, 07:24 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-26-2021, 02:32 AM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]"If this isn't TID from Aura of Love, then I don't know what's going on... but if it is TID, then you guys are in for one hell of a treat!"

@Shannon


From what you describe in your journal, it sounds like textbook DMSI execution, but minus the user-side compulsion. Not to reach into the realm of disbelievability (a word I just invented), but as the sole creator of these subs, it seems likely that your subconscious holds all of them, and can probably selectively execute any of them that it finds useful to accomplish whatever goals it's interested in. Of Course this is just a theory in terms of TLD, but it's fun to think about either way.

My subconscious differs from yours but little at the level of the focus into the physical world.  While I indeed subconsciously know every word that goes into every one of these programs, that does not mean that those words are being executed as a subliminal for me all the time.  If that were the case, I would never have to run any subliminal but once, and having run so many would make me an eternally exhausted pile of jelly. As for selective execution, you must remember MIR: no matter what I do, it still requires actually listening to it to get the execution you need.  The subconscious does what it has to do, nothing more.  That includes executing subliminals.  That is why I have to use DMSI to get DMSI's effects, just like you.

Hm, I can't tell if this is dejavu or i've suggested something like this in the past. What I'm thinking about now is something along the lines of how someone can create a script in a coding language, which can then be executed to do something after it is added to a system (your subconscious, for instance). Since our goal is implanting beliefs (subconscious scripts), once we are programmed with the particular string of commands, should we be able to consciously decide to "run DMSI 3.1", I wonder...In your example, I wouldn't think you'd be exhausted because with instant-on kind of effects like Auras or healing in a sense you can run scripts as needed, and conserve system resources when they aren't. Wishful thinking on my part, perhaps Tongue

People tend to think the brain/mind is much more like a current electronic computer than it is.  All the evidence you need of that is how it's taken me 12+ years to get a functional "if ... then" statement working.  The subconscious is emotional, irrational, illogical.  Computers are the exact reverse.  "If ... then" is a binary logic statement.  That is the reverse of what I'm seeing play out when I use "if ... then" in a script.  Instead, I see, "But I want to do XYZ instead!"

And it's not as if just because you can remember the script, you can execute the program. You'd think so, but it's not.  There are pieces missing.  It doesn't work that way in actual practice.  We are not computers as we think of them today.  Our brains and minds are not computers as we understand computers today.  It would be closer to the truth to say that our brains and minds are separate, each having parts that do different things and interact, with the minds being both conscious and subconscious, and each part having different understanding and goals.  Then you add in what I will call the "self", which is also conscious and subconscious and multi-partite, and has different goals, and it looks more like a pair of twins sitting on a contraption composed of boxes everywhere that are connected by wires, all trying to achieve something, usually something slightly different, and they spend a lot of time arguing and disagreeing and sabotaging and generally not getting very far.

What we think would make sense from a logical perspective is definitely not how things actually work, as I am constantly discovering and being reminded.
(03-26-2021, 12:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-26-2021, 11:21 AM)reki Wrote: [ -> ]Does Sleep Magic offer a 30 day refund?
https://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/sleep-magic/

Thanks

Yes.

great! just waiting for my sleep phones before buying it
(03-27-2021, 06:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-27-2021, 05:35 AM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-26-2021, 07:24 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-26-2021, 02:32 AM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ]"If this isn't TID from Aura of Love, then I don't know what's going on... but if it is TID, then you guys are in for one hell of a treat!"

@Shannon


From what you describe in your journal, it sounds like textbook DMSI execution, but minus the user-side compulsion. Not to reach into the realm of disbelievability (a word I just invented), but as the sole creator of these subs, it seems likely that your subconscious holds all of them, and can probably selectively execute any of them that it finds useful to accomplish whatever goals it's interested in. Of Course this is just a theory in terms of TLD, but it's fun to think about either way.

My subconscious differs from yours but little at the level of the focus into the physical world.  While I indeed subconsciously know every word that goes into every one of these programs, that does not mean that those words are being executed as a subliminal for me all the time.  If that were the case, I would never have to run any subliminal but once, and having run so many would make me an eternally exhausted pile of jelly. As for selective execution, you must remember MIR: no matter what I do, it still requires actually listening to it to get the execution you need.  The subconscious does what it has to do, nothing more.  That includes executing subliminals.  That is why I have to use DMSI to get DMSI's effects, just like you.

Hm, I can't tell if this is dejavu or i've suggested something like this in the past. What I'm thinking about now is something along the lines of how someone can create a script in a coding language, which can then be executed to do something after it is added to a system (your subconscious, for instance). Since our goal is implanting beliefs (subconscious scripts), once we are programmed with the particular string of commands, should we be able to consciously decide to "run DMSI 3.1", I wonder...In your example, I wouldn't think you'd be exhausted because with instant-on kind of effects like Auras or healing in a sense you can run scripts as needed, and conserve system resources when they aren't. Wishful thinking on my part, perhaps Tongue

People tend to think the brain/mind is much more like a current electronic computer than it is.  All the evidence you need of that is how it's taken me 12+ years to get a functional "if ... then" statement working.  The subconscious is emotional, irrational, illogical.  Computers are the exact reverse.  "If ... then" is a binary logic statement.  That is the reverse of what I'm seeing play out when I use "if ... then" in a script.  Instead, I see, "But I want to do XYZ instead!"

And it's not as if just because you can remember the script, you can execute the program. You'd think so, but it's not.  There are pieces missing.  It doesn't work that way in actual practice.  We are not computers as we think of them today.  Our brains and minds are not computers as we understand computers today.  It would be closer to the truth to say that our brains and minds are separate, each having parts that do different things and interact, with the minds being both conscious and subconscious, and each part having different understanding and goals.  Then you add in what I will call the "self", which is also conscious and subconscious and multi-partite, and has different goals, and it looks more like a pair of twins sitting on a contraption composed of boxes everywhere that are connected by wires, all trying to achieve something, usually something slightly different, and they spend a lot of time arguing and disagreeing and sabotaging and generally not getting very far.

What we think would make sense from a logical perspective is definitely not how things actually work, as I am constantly discovering and being reminded.

Without getting too abstract, it surprises me you could get an if, then statement to work at all, given that those are predicated on the principle of cause and effect, which for all intents and purposes doesn't exist in the 'real' reality of the continuous moment that I assume the subconscious is aware of and operates in. Have you chosen a successor to inherit your compendium of information? I don't imagine you'll perish any time soon, but quite frankly I believe it would be a severe blow to the future of mankind if you take everything you've learned with you, whenever that may be.

On an unrelated note, as a 6+ year DMSI tester, I sometimes wonder if you'd ever consider re-enabling the long range sniper. I have a few tales related to that which defy logical explanation, but in due time.
(03-27-2021, 07:57 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ][snip]

Without getting too abstract, it surprises me you could get an if, then statement to work at all, given that those are predicated on the principle of cause and effect, which for all intents and purposes doesn't exist in the 'real' reality of the continuous moment that I assume the subconscious is aware of and operates in. Have you chosen a successor to inherit your compendium of information? I don't imagine you'll perish any time soon, but quite frankly I believe it would be a severe blow to the future of mankind if you take everything you've learned with you, whenever that may be.

On an unrelated note, as a 6+ year DMSI tester, I sometimes wonder if you'd ever consider re-enabling the long range sniper. I have a few tales related to that which defy logical explanation, but in due time.

That is indeed a serious challenge to the process.  That is not the only reason it's such a challenge, however.  Not even close.

To choose a successor will require that someone who can pass all the required tests is available to test.  Said person must also arrive at the right time for the testing.  That time is not now.  I have much to do before I start looking for a successor.

DMSI-Final may have the option of a version with a LRS, but that is not for sure.  DMSI-Final is also versions into the future.
(03-28-2021, 04:37 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-27-2021, 07:57 PM)Zeroxmachina Wrote: [ -> ][snip]

Without getting too abstract, it surprises me you could get an if, then statement to work at all, given that those are predicated on the principle of cause and effect, which for all intents and purposes doesn't exist in the 'real' reality of the continuous moment that I assume the subconscious is aware of and operates in. Have you chosen a successor to inherit your compendium of information? I don't imagine you'll perish any time soon, but quite frankly I believe it would be a severe blow to the future of mankind if you take everything you've learned with you, whenever that may be.

On an unrelated note, as a 6+ year DMSI tester, I sometimes wonder if you'd ever consider re-enabling the long range sniper. I have a few tales related to that which defy logical explanation, but in due time.

That is indeed a serious challenge to the process.  That is not the only reason it's such a challenge, however.  Not even close.

To choose a successor will require that someone who can pass all the required tests is available to test.  Said person must also arrive at the right time for the testing.  That time is not now.  I have much to do before I start looking for a successor.

DMSI-Final may have the option of a version with a LRS, but that is not for sure.  DMSI-Final is also versions into the future.
Hey Shannon, what is your criteria for determining the final version of DMSI? I know it is likely based upon a certain degrees of succus, but what encompasses those specific parameters?
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