Subliminal Talk

(01-26-2020, 04:04 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Everyone Send Positive Vibes to @Shannon

Much appreciated.

(01-26-2020, 07:23 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, i have been feeling down ever since starting MHS 5.75. I havent felt like this for years.
Then I remembered resistance - or whatever you call it now.
Could it be MHS be causing me emotional turmoil?! If so, why and how?
thanks.

There are some possible reasons I can think of for explaining this.

First possibility is, your subconscious does not want to change its core beliefs.  MHS instructs your subconscious to change any belief that is in any way contributing to a physical health issue to a belief that helps the program heal it.  Some such beliefs may be very fundamental, and thus very likely to cause a great deal of change in other resulting beliefs if they are changed.  Such change may create fear of the unknown, and thus resistance, which - when the program cannot be resisted - may result in feeling down, since the subconscious is feeling hopeless as a result of feing forced to change and face its fears, likely of literal death.  For some reason, the subconscious appears to be prone to equating feared imagined outcomes with death.  

The second possibility is that the deep detoxing of the MHS program is in the process of flushing out a great deal of toxins from your system, and this is somehow a result.  I would imagine that this would go away on its own after a period of 1-4 weeks if it is the case, based on my best understanding of what detox requires and how the program works, factoring in what can be detoxed and how that is done, etc.

The third option I can think of is similar to the first, but differs in that the resistance would be coming not from a fear of death directly, but in being deprived of the issue or illness which it either created or sustains in an effort to avoid something else it fears.  So in this case, the fear wouldn't be "of changing my beliefs", but of no longer having a manufactured excuse to hide from something else that is feared, which is being avoided by a subconsciously generated and/or sustained issue which gives you at the conscious level a legitimate excuse to not do or achieve that thing.  If the program is too powerful to disrupt, then the subconscious may again become depressed and feel hopeless to stop it from achieving its goals, which forces it to deal with and face its fears.

I think the first and third options are by far the most likely explanations.

(01-26-2020, 08:33 AM)Javier Gerardo Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-26-2020, 07:23 AM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, i have been feeling down ever since starting MHS 5.75. I havent felt like this for years.
Then I remembered resistance - or whatever you call it now.
Could it be MHS be causing me emotional turmoil?! If so, why and how?
thanks.

I'm interested with this as well. I'm also using MHS 5.75 but at the start the pain of my sickness kind of increased but two weeks in and it is improving. Today wasn't a good day though since pain have somehow increased.

This would seem likely to be one of the following:

A) Not related.
B) A detoxing effect.
C) Your subconscious attempting to cause pain to get you to stop using the program.
D) The healing process is painful.

Usually option C will be a HUGE amount of pain that is very clearly in response specifically to the program itself, which goes away quickly when you are not using it.  It doesn't sound like that.

If it's from detoxing then it would be a Herximer reaction, which would not be just pain, but also feelings of sickness and general malaise.  It doesn't sound like that.

So we are left with it sounding to me like it is either not related or that the process of healing is painful, based on my best understanding of your situation.

By the limited description you've provided, I would say it

(01-26-2020, 09:25 AM)ichigo Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, what sub would you recommend would best help a police detective in their job? To maximise observational skills, come up with hypothesis, etc. I was thinking MLS or LFC? Is there anyway they can be combined? If not which would you recommend? Thank you

Those two are the ones I would most likely suggest also.

LFC is going to focus your awareness on whatever you are focusing on like a laser.  It can improve your ability to notice things you are looking for, but may create so much focus that you would not longer notice things you aren't looking for.  It can potentially create a sort of "tunnel vision" effect, both literally in your visual awareness and in terms of what you notice.  

MLS would be better for the thinking aspects of the job, and may help with observation also.

If I were said police detective, I would start with MLS and then once it was established that it was helpful in the right ways or not, try LFC.  If MLS does prove to be useful, wait for its effects to be established before you attempt to add in LFC.  And IF you try to add it in, you will need to do so in a carefully balanced way to get any benefit without derailing the programs.  I would suggest alternating one cycle of MLS and one of LFC.  Keep in mind that doing that may completely derail the program that is not being used.  If it does, you'll have to choose one or the other.  It may also cause turbulence issues.  So proceed with caution if you try that.

(01-26-2020, 11:18 AM)cataleya Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, how long should the break be if I switch from UMS to US/LM3?

I would give it 2-3 weeks.

(01-26-2020, 02:04 PM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon.

I gave your new pricing strategy some thought:

I’ve run LTU for a year and I can say that the price of usd1500 is fair. But two problems arise when setting the price to that
1) it’s almost impossible to communicate the value of a product fully, especially when it’s something so personal as related to your emotional health, and life.
2) subliminals isn’t a common thing to use so people may be a bit sceptic to it

Let’s say that the marketing factor diminish the value by 30% and the unconventional method of using subliminals diminish the value by 30%. Then you have 1500*0,4=600 left. I think that’s a better price to sell LTU for, for at least some more time until you have gotten clinical trials going. LTU is helluva product and by setting the price as high as you have you loose out on getting first time customers using the pinnacle of your products, which is what you need to do to create people who advocate not only your business but your type of product that is largely unknown to most people.

Using your logic, we can pull any number out of a hat and use it in place of your 30%.  You start with an admission that the current price is fair, and then go on to make arguments to lower the price, which are all already negated by your initial statement that the price is fair.  The arguments you make for lowering the price are based on conjecture, and use what are effectively random numbers.  We could easily adjust those numbers up or down to arrive at whatever number we want to.  Interesting that you arrived at the original introductory price of $600 US.  

I see your argument and understand it, but your reasoning is suspect, as is your result.

Now that said, the next time I release this program the price will be different because since releasing that program, I have become aware of some variables that were not available to me to consider, which may force me to use a price that is other than optimal.  We shall see how that plays out when the time comes.

(01-27-2020, 10:32 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-26-2020, 02:04 PM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon.

I gave your new pricing strategy some thought:

I’ve run LTU for a year and I can say that the price of usd1500 is fair. But two problems arise when setting the price to that
1) it’s almost impossible to communicate the value of a product fully, especially when it’s something so personal as related to your emotional health, and life.
2) subliminals isn’t a common thing to use so people may be a bit sceptic to it

Let’s say that the marketing factor diminish the value by 30% and the unconventional method of using subliminals diminish the value by 30%. Then you have 1500*0,4=600 left. I think that’s a better price to sell LTU for, for at least some more time until you have gotten clinical trials going. LTU is helluva product and by setting the price as high as you have you loose out on getting first time customers using the pinnacle of your products, which is what you need to do to create people who advocate not only your business but your type of product that is largely unknown to most people.

Using your logic, we can pull any number out of a hat and use it in place of your 30%.  You start with an admission that the current price is fair, and then go on to make arguments to lower the price, which are all already negated by your initial statement that the price is fair.  The arguments you make for lowering the price are based on conjecture, and use what are effectively random numbers.  We could easily adjust those numbers up or down to arrive at whatever number we want to.  Interesting that you arrived at the original introductory price of $600 US.  

I see your argument and understand it, but your reasoning is suspect, as is your result.

Now that said, the next time I release this program the price will be different because since releasing that program, I have become aware of some variables that were not available to me to consider, which may force me to use a price that is other than optimal.  We shall see how that plays out when the time comes.

Yes I used an arbitrary logic in specific sum you should arrive at, that wasn't the point I was trying to make. My point is that:
a) you have an awesome product that can help people
b) I've talked to people about the product that I know would have benefit of it, but few have shown further interest

So you have people that would have use of your product, but can't understand it's value to them. It's not like you are selling a Tesla which someone can write a review about and people can digest that based on other experiences they have with cars, they have a framework to conduct their discussions around the product on. There is almost no framework for discussing subliminals, maybe in the absolute inner circle of users such as on this forum, but that is a very small portion of "people".

I don't know if you heard about the Diffusion of innovations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations) but I think that your type of product and us buying your products can be plotter fairly accurate on that chart. We are what is called "innovators" - i.e. people ready to be in the first line to test innovative stuff - the same type of guys that stood in line for the new iPhone for 3 days. Guys that most other people see as "lunatics". What I'm trying to convey to you is that you need to help take your customer base from being innovators (which is about 2.5 % of the overall population) and reach the "early adopters" (13.5% of the population) - and the best way you can do that is to put out high quality products on a price point that isn't necessary calculated for "optimum value", but at a price point where this group would be willing to try it out.

Finding the optimal price point is a later question to do. Thanks to AP you can even raise prices even when you have tons of customers that bought on a lower price (because your products have that high incremental value). So pricing the LTU, which I believe is the product that have the highest possibility of reaching the early adoptors to high isn't a viable long term strategy to reach over the "tipping point" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipping_point_(sociology)) as malcolm gladwell describes it, neither a necessary one for your monetary success in the long term. Just my five cents.

I'm considering a number of options. We shall see. Whatever seems to be the best for achieving the most user satisfaction and profit at the same time, that's what I will choose. Can't go wrong when you hit the sweet spot that balances both.

Again, I see and understand your point. When the time comes, I'll make the pricing decision based on the best information I have available to me at the time.

(01-27-2020, 11:15 AM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-27-2020, 10:32 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-26-2020, 02:04 PM)Greenduck Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon.

I gave your new pricing strategy some thought:

I’ve run LTU for a year and I can say that the price of usd1500 is fair. But two problems arise when setting the price to that
1) it’s almost impossible to communicate the value of a product fully, especially when it’s something so personal as related to your emotional health, and life.
2) subliminals isn’t a common thing to use so people may be a bit sceptic to it

Let’s say that the marketing factor diminish the value by 30% and the unconventional method of using subliminals diminish the value by 30%. Then you have 1500*0,4=600 left. I think that’s a better price to sell LTU for, for at least some more time until you have gotten clinical trials going. LTU is helluva product and by setting the price as high as you have you loose out on getting first time customers using the pinnacle of your products, which is what you need to do to create people who advocate not only your business but your type of product that is largely unknown to most people.

Using your logic, we can pull any number out of a hat and use it in place of your 30%.  You start with an admission that the current price is fair, and then go on to make arguments to lower the price, which are all already negated by your initial statement that the price is fair.  The arguments you make for lowering the price are based on conjecture, and use what are effectively random numbers.  We could easily adjust those numbers up or down to arrive at whatever number we want to.  Interesting that you arrived at the original introductory price of $600 US.  

I see your argument and understand it, but your reasoning is suspect, as is your result.

Now that said, the next time I release this program the price will be different because since releasing that program, I have become aware of some variables that were not available to me to consider, which may force me to use a price that is other than optimal.  We shall see how that plays out when the time comes.

Yes I used an arbitrary logic in specific sum you should arrive at, that wasn't the point I was trying to make. My point is that:
a) you have an awesome product that can help people
b) I've talked to people about the product that I know would have benefit of it, but few have shown further interest

So you have people that would have use of your product, but can't understand it's value to them. It's not like you are selling a Tesla which someone can write a review about and people can digest that based on other experiences they have with cars, they have a framework to conduct their discussions around the product on. There is almost no framework for discussing subliminals, maybe in the absolute inner circle of users such as on this forum, but that is a very small portion of "people".

I don't know if you heard about the Diffusion of innovations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_innovations) but I think that your type of product and us buying your products can be plotter fairly accurate on that chart. We are what is called "innovators" - i.e. people ready to be in the first line to test innovative stuff - the same type of guys that stood in line for the new iPhone for 3 days. Guys that most other people see as "lunatics". What I'm trying to convey to you is that you need to help take your customer base from being innovators (which is about 2.5 % of the overall population) and reach the "early adopters" (13.5% of the population) - and the best way you can do that is to put out high quality products on a price point that isn't necessary calculated for "optimum value", but at a price point where this group would be willing to try it out.

Finding the optimal price point is a later question to do. Thanks to AP you can even raise prices even when you have tons of customers that bought on a lower price (because your products have that high incremental value). So pricing the LTU, which I believe is the product that have the highest possibility of reaching the early adoptors to high isn't a viable long term strategy to reach over the "tipping point" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tipping_point_(sociology)) as malcolm gladwell describes it, neither a necessary one for your monetary success in the long term. Just my five cents.

I want to chime in into this discussion about the price and fair value as well as more customers.
I myself got started with a free subliminal that proved to me that it is working. Then I went for AM5. It was a huge step, from nothing to around 300 to pay for. But at the same time if I go to a seminar that is most of the time more expensive and I can't refund and I can't repeat the seminar for free. If I get some coaching it might also be fast to use 300 dollars for solving a problem.
If the LTU does what it says it is a big step and well worth the money. If it does not help you in any way, it is worthless no matter how low the price is. So in my opinion it will be always nice to have some kind of different pricing options and generations in the shop, for newbies who just tried out a free one it will be hard to justify 1600 dollars out of the blue. Some have the money and some have to save for a long time until they can use it. If you use it for 16 months it is like 100 dollars each month or around one coaching hour. If you use it 8 months it is like 200 dollars or two coaching hours a month. The question is always what is your problem, what is your goal you want to reach and then choose wisely.

And for the wider group of people that Shannon call sell to, I don't agree. I'm very very certain that Shannon is and will always stay in a niche. The niche might get bigger, but it won't reach the majority easily. Yes, subliminals seem like a quick fix, you buy it and the problem will solve itself. The only problem is you have a certain time commitment and here is where most of the people fail. I have talked to some people about subliminals, most are like a little bit scared because "it messes with your mind". Either people find out by themselves about subliminals, the shop and forum or it is not necessary to lead them here. An affiliate program will only harm the shop because it's no longer the right audience that is lead here. I would sometimes buy a subliminal for a friend if he or she uses it for their problem but most of the time, because it is not their decision and their why is not big enough to follow through, they would use it a few days and then it is too complicated to use and they stop.

But what I would like to see in the shop is a certain "people who used this program had the following benefits after usage of 3-6 months:" and then a list. At the moment it is just a list of goals what the program tries to achieve but not a list of the goals that were achieved. I know it's not easy to get field data and feedback from customers to make such a list. But maybe also for people here on the forum, if they use a program for long enough and they write a detailed review they get a $10 voucher for the shop or something like that. I know that might also mislead people that try to take advantage of that but if they bought a program and they can verify it, then you can allow it to them. Maybe only reviews for the latest generation or 5.5 and up. I don't know. I think there are a lot of intelligent supportive forum users that want you to succeed, Shannon, maybe we can help coming up with ideas and you can choose what you like or just ignore it.

Quote:But what I would like to see in the shop is a certain "people who used this program had the following benefits after usage of 3-6 months:" and then a list. At the moment it is just a list of goals what the program tries to achieve but not a list of the goals that were achieved. I know it's not easy to get field data and feedback from customers to make such a list. But maybe also for people here on the forum, if they use a program for long enough and they write a detailed review they get a $10 voucher for the shop or something like that. I know that might also mislead people that try to take advantage of that but if they bought a program and they can verify it, then you can allow it to them. Maybe only reviews for the latest generation or 5.5 and up. I don't know. I think there are a lot of intelligent supportive forum users that want you to succeed, Shannon, maybe we can help coming up with ideas and you can choose what you like or just ignore it.

Unfortunately, there is no way to do this.  Without incentivising it, we won't get the reports, and if we do incentivize it we (and our customers) have no way to know it's genuine.  Nobody is going to believe "paid for" reports anyway, and that would only serve to damage our reputation and trust the public has for us.  Believe me, we have been through every possible angle on this, and there is no good solution there that we can see.

I would like to point something out to you all who have MIR.

The new Chinese coronavirus (officially titled WH-Human_1China2019_Dec, as far as I can tell) is very difficult for the human immune system to deal with and fight.  If you contract this virus, or you even think you have contracted this or any other potentially life threatening virus or other pathogen, PLEASE:

1. DO NOT try to rely solely on MIR to fight it!  MIR only helps your immune system do better what it already can do, and in cases like such viruses as this, it may not be able to do the job alone.  MIR is not intended to replace proper medical care, diagnosis and treatment!  Therefore,
2. IMMEDIATELY go to a doctor and get yourself proper medical care!
3. If you use MIR, USE IT 100% according to the instructions!  Otherwise you will only make yourself sicker and potentially create an even worse type of infectious pathogen.

MIR 2.1 can help if you use it properly, but it is not designed or intended to act as a means for dealing with major and/or deadly infectious diseases by itself.

(01-27-2020, 10:20 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-26-2020, 09:25 AM)ichigo Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Shannon, what sub would you recommend would best help a police detective in their job? To maximise observational skills, come up with hypothesis, etc. I was thinking MLS or LFC? Is there anyway they can be combined? If not which would you recommend? Thank you

Those two are the ones I would most likely suggest also.

LFC is going to focus your awareness on whatever you are focusing on like a laser.  It can improve your ability to notice things you are looking for, but may create so much focus that you would not longer notice things you aren't looking for.  It can potentially create a sort of "tunnel vision" effect, both literally in your visual awareness and in terms of what you notice.  

MLS would be better for the thinking aspects of the job, and may help with observation also.

If I were said police detective, I would start with MLS and then once it was established that it was helpful in the right ways or not, try LFC.  If MLS does prove to be useful, wait for its effects to be established before you attempt to add in LFC.  And IF you try to add it in, you will need to do so in a carefully balanced way to get any benefit without derailing the programs.  I would suggest alternating one cycle of MLS and one of LFC.  Keep in mind that doing that may completely derail the program that is not being used.  If it does, you'll have to choose one or the other.  It may also cause turbulence issues.  So proceed with caution if you try that.

I’d like to add to what Shannon says here.  I think that anyone in law Enforcement should be using LTU at least three months out of the year every year.  The stresses unique to the job can really change you, and LTU kind of mitigates the more negative aspects of it.  It let me feel like a “normal” person again, and you deserve that.

(01-28-2020, 12:39 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:But what I would like to see in the shop is a certain "people who used this program had the following benefits after usage of 3-6 months:" and then a list. At the moment it is just a list of goals what the program tries to achieve but not a list of the goals that were achieved. I know it's not easy to get field data and feedback from customers to make such a list. But maybe also for people here on the forum, if they use a program for long enough and they write a detailed review they get a $10 voucher for the shop or something like that. I know that might also mislead people that try to take advantage of that but if they bought a program and they can verify it, then you can allow it to them. Maybe only reviews for the latest generation or 5.5 and up. I don't know. I think there are a lot of intelligent supportive forum users that want you to succeed, Shannon, maybe we can help coming up with ideas and you can choose what you like or just ignore it.

Unfortunately, there is no way to do this.  Without incentivising it, we won't get the reports, and if we do incentivize it we (and our customers) have no way to know it's genuine.  Nobody is going to believe "paid for" reports anyway, and that would only serve to damage our reputation and trust the public has for us.  Believe me, we have been through every possible angle on this, and there is no good solution there that we can see.

I work some with e-commerce and have seen many of our clients work with multiple designs of the homepage, to test that works better. Let say you use 2 different ones, then you can compare how effective they are at converting visitors to become buyers.

I agree that the testimonial section is one of your most important tools into getting new customers, and also that you shouldn’t pay for testimonials. But you could make it easier for new customers to see different testimonials for different types of problems and with different usage time.

I have arguments for it before, but right now your product pages are LONG and filled with information that perhaps attract one type of customer that really likes all this type of details, but overwhelms another. To test this you could try two different designs, and in the end maybe come up with a combination. To reach new customers I think you would benefit from your professionalism that really goes trough the whole website and the forum, but you need to think a bit more like a marketer and not subliminal producer regarding in how you design your product pages. Real marketing isnt about manipulation by using guilt, shame and fear and being pushy about it like you see sometimes, it’s about understanding your value and how it’s best communicated to different target groups that have interest in what you are offering.

I was walking in the streets yesterday and I see this guy wearing a sweatshirt and the back of it has the initials “UMS”

I guess I should take this as a sign not to stop using it anytime soon lol