Subliminal Talk

(11-25-2020, 02:37 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2020, 05:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2020, 03:30 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Hope youre well.

Im wondering with all my fears, does lack of self esteem, self worth or lack of confidence all stem from fear too and can OF work on helping with this?

having fallen for and lost the girl that I fell in love with and thought was the one has made me wonder did I lack something inside and if so was it all the above?

thanks

OF deals with fear.  If you fear is caused by something else, that will also be dealt with.

The way of the world is, you probably won't find "The One" during the first 30 - 35 years of your life.  So stop thinking like that.  You have to be developed enough for "The One" to want you.  Even if you meet them, they won't want you if you're not what they need.  You need to focus on becoming the best version of yourself you can be, and doing it without "The One".  I went through a lot of what you're talking about, and later on realized I was looking for someone to be my mother and take care of me so I didn't have to face my fears and grow up.  Not saying that's what you're doing, but it sounds familiar.

So my advice is, if you want a woman to choose you, work on being what she wants and needs.  That means developing yourself, improving yourself and making yourself all that you can be.  When you do that, you will have pick of the litter - believe me.  Good men are hard to find, and they have options.

Thank you Shannon, and ofcourse using OF is the first stage of trying to better myself. Any other tips do share on how to become the best version of myself I can.

I read something in this discussion about maybe you may upgrade OF from its current version to another more upto date version. If that is the case:

1) How much more advanced than currently will it really be?

2) I am currently on OF and hoping it works for me, would you think I would need to upgrade since im still waiting to execute?

thank you

The first and biggest problem you face is that you don't want to grow up.  So the best thing you can do is hold yourself accountable for what you do and do not accomplish.  As for upgrading OF, I know you guys would love that, but I don't have enough time to really work on figuring out how to upgrade FRM 4.9 right now, and the ideas I have so far are few and I don't have time or stability in the models to model them.  An upgrade of OF is not going to happen right now.  There is too much else to do.

As for waiting to execute, I honestly don't know how you're resisting that program (if you are).  But if you are, it likely involves a subconscious level of self deception and self delusion that there's nothing I can do about.  It basically boils down to responding to the list of instructions by changing your beliefs and perspectives such that the script can execute or be ignored, and you still achieve the failure to accomplish that program's goal.  It's the only foolproof way to defeat a subliminal, and I don't know how to do anything about it because it leaves me with nothing to work with to make the necessary changes.  I hope that's not what you're doing.

(11-25-2020, 03:29 PM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2020, 01:35 PM)Bayern Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:FRM 4.9 is decidedly not a simple script.  Or a short one.  But I can definitely transfer it to the latest skeleton script quickly.  But I wonder, who else would buy it again?

Been mainly lurking recently as I'm still using OF and just letting the sub do its thing at this point. But I would definitely buy it again if there were even a small chance for it to get updated to the most up to date FRM standards.  If not I completely understand and will continue on with OF as is.  Just wanted to throw it out there.

Same here. I like to optimize my time. I still have over 1/3 of the 8 months remaining to go. (A little bit more than 2 months).

If there was a more potent version of OF, I would get it in order to get the most out of the remaining 2 months

I'll be sure to upgrade OF as soon as I can do so meaningfully, since you all want the upgrade.  No idea when that will be though.

(11-26-2020, 08:10 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ][quote="Shannon" pid='240662' dateline='1606330462']



Shannon's quote  in response to UMS v2 :
"
I'm going to see if I can do 2 stages per month, because this has gotten old.  I only do one a month to give myself time to build something to make money with, and half the time my efforts turn out to be wasted anyway, because of circumstances outside of my control.  No guarantees, but that's what I'm looking at.  May or may not be feasible.

UMS is one of my favorite programs.  Unfortunately, I can't run it right now.  I am NOT looking forward to building another 6 stage set in 5.75.xG, this is nuts... but, given that I can work at my own pace, it will be helpful. "


My Response:
 Sounds real good Shannon, and frankly Man I'm glad that you'd be giving yourself a LOT more room &space to be and breathe,man. As you well know, its  a good thing,for any of us to do that,especially with something as mental-labor intensive as re-creating,R & D,upgrading and rebuilding such a program.
 2 stages a month,sounds awesome though. Hope when the rubber hits the road that it will indeed be feasible,to approach  things in this way and manner.
 Almost 3 hours into my new version of USLMv4.2....the feeling is like 'calming' & "I feel like I could listen ALL day!"
 What a Thanksgiving present,man oh man, I really calmly LIKE this program. "Just mellowly diggin it". Thank ya Man. Much appreciated!!!

That seemed like a really good program to me.  I wish I could run it.  

Me:  Indeed.....I wish you could too...you deserve the benefits of your own creation,your sculpture!! happy Turkey Cooking!! :-)
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That seemed like a really good program to me.  I wish I could run it.  
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(11-26-2020, 10:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2020, 03:29 PM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2020, 01:35 PM)Bayern Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:FRM 4.9 is decidedly not a simple script.  Or a short one.  But I can definitely transfer it to the latest skeleton script quickly.  But I wonder, who else would buy it again?

Been mainly lurking recently as I'm still using OF and just letting the sub do its thing at this point. But I would definitely buy it again if there were even a small chance for it to get updated to the most up to date FRM standards.  If not I completely understand and will continue on with OF as is.  Just wanted to throw it out there.

Same here. I like to optimize my time. I still have over 1/3 of the 8 months remaining to go. (A little bit more than 2 months).

If there was a more potent version of OF, I would get it in order to get the most out of the remaining 2 months

I'll be sure to upgrade OF as soon as I can do so meaningfully, since you all want the upgrade.  No idea when that will be though.

That's awesome, thank you Shannon!  And Happy Thanksgiving!

Shannon,I've been meaning to run this by you for months and by the time I get here,its already a past thought....that is I have this deep fear,that if I have all the money I want, all the things to get my thing on in life,that I'll be bored sh*tless.
Like agonizing boredum fear, Fear of Un-bearably bored.

I Know OF was working on that amoung other fears,and Im shure the reason its remembered to bring it up is MY use this day of USLM v4.2,helped me to remember to bring this up.... Im not expecting an instant 'cure',instant fix..... I feel like USLM v4.2 is working on this via the success,FRM 4.9 combo...love that its doing its work.

It may seem crazy to our conscious mind, but thats one of my deepest fears around having a lotta money and success. for me... however rational and irrational this may be... I believe that my subconscious, in an effort to keep me 'safe',prevents such events as being success and abundantly wealthy, from happening is to keep me 'happy" which isnt the case at all. not at all,of course.
awareness is the first step in remedying the problem/impedance/road blocks.

The positive is that I have been aware of this for quite some time and have worked on it and obviously,
#2_ That I AM indeed aware of it going on
#3) And its being worked on.
Means solutions can be founds,things can be resolved over time.

Plus with USLM synchronicitie's have started to clearly show up,today,, without conscious effort.

(11-26-2020, 10:42 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-26-2020, 08:10 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ][quote="Shannon" pid='240662' dateline='1606330462']



Shannon's quote  in response to UMS v2 :
"
I'm going to see if I can do 2 stages per month, because this has gotten old.  I only do one a month to give myself time to build something to make money with, and half the time my efforts turn out to be wasted anyway, because of circumstances outside of my control.  No guarantees, but that's what I'm looking at.  May or may not be feasible.

UMS is one of my favorite programs.  Unfortunately, I can't run it right now.  I am NOT looking forward to building another 6 stage set in 5.75.xG, this is nuts... but, given that I can work at my own pace, it will be helpful. "


My Response:
 Sounds real good Shannon, and frankly Man I'm glad that you'd be giving yourself a LOT more room &space to be and breathe,man. As you well know, its  a good thing,for any of us to do that,especially with something as mental-labor intensive as re-creating,R & D,upgrading and rebuilding such a program.
 2 stages a month,sounds awesome though. Hope when the rubber hits the road that it will indeed be feasible,to approach  things in this way and manner.
 Almost 3 hours into my new version of USLMv4.2....the feeling is like 'calming' & "I feel like I could listen ALL day!"
 What a Thanksgiving present,man oh man, I really calmly LIKE this program. "Just mellowly diggin it". Thank ya Man. Much appreciated!!!

That seemed like a really good program to me.  I wish I could run it.  

That is great news! There is no rush... I still have 10 cycles to perform before completing the OF 8 months period. If you can come up with an OF update in the next 2 months,

I commit to buy it!

Happy thanksgiving Shannon!

Hope all you Americans are have enjoyed a happy Thanks Giving

Shannon - quick question have you ever come across David R Hawkins work, particularly 'Power Vs Force'. It describes levels of being which coincide with levels of Energy/Power.

(11-26-2020, 02:47 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon,I've been meaning to run this by you for months and by the time I get here,its already a past thought....that is  I have this deep fear,that if I have all the money I want, all the things to get my thing on in life,that I'll be bored  sh*tless.
Like agonizing boredum fear,  Fear of Un-bearably bored.

I Know OF was working on  that amoung other fears,and Im shure the reason its remembered to bring it up is MY use this day of USLM v4.2,helped me to remember to bring this up.... Im not expecting an instant 'cure',instant fix..... I feel like USLM v4.2 is working on this via the success,FRM 4.9 combo...love that its doing its work.

It may seem crazy to our conscious mind, but thats one of my deepest fears around having a lotta money and success. for me... however rational and irrational this may be... I believe that my subconscious, in an effort to keep me 'safe',prevents such events as being success and abundantly wealthy, from happening  is to keep me 'happy" which isnt the case at all. not at all,of course.
awareness is the first step in  remedying the problem/impedance/road blocks.

The positive is that I have been aware of this for quite some time and have worked on it and  obviously,
#2_ That I AM indeed aware of it going on
#3) And its being worked on.
Means solutions can be founds,things can be resolved over time.

Plus with USLM  synchronicitie's have started to clearly show up,today,, without conscious effort.

So what you're telling me is that you're afraid, at some level, that if you could have anything you want... anything at all... you'd want to sit around and be bored?  Well hell, you can do that now, right?  So why on earth would you choose that?

Wealth gives you options that prevent you from being bored.  Travel, for example.  Hobbies, both low and high priced.  I mean, hell, if I had wealth I would have as one of my hobbies paraplaning... and I'd be traveling all over the world, learning about different cultures and exploring different places, foods, customs... doing photography, kayaking, learning to fly planes and helicopters, metal detecting in the Australian outback looking for gold and all kinds of fun things.

That fear is completely ridiculous!  You know I'm not coming down on you for that, but think about it.  You're telling me that if you had all the money you wanted and could do anything, that you'd be bored?  You'd buy a nice vehicle, a nice house, and indulge yourself in everything you live and enjoy, but you'd be bored? Bored?!  How is that even possible?  Where did that come from?  

One of the things I have always found most amusing when I was studying how to make things happen the way I want them to is, most people who study that subject and get far enough realize that with it, they can have whatever they want.  Anything.  And in almost every case I have ever seen, they learn this and... stop.  Just walk away.  Why?  Because when they are faced with the reality, the genuine reality of "You can really have anything you want.", they can't handle it.  It scares them, and they go hide in their self made prison of limiting beliefs and perceptions.

Basically, that's what your subconscious is trying to do here.  If you don't have fears, woah, how are you going to stay safe?  How are you going to handle having REAL freedom?  Anything you want?  And think about this... the worst it could come up with as a threat is... boredom.

Which, quite frankly, is insulting your intelligence.  Your subconscious wants you to believe that you don't have the intelligence and creativity to solve something as simple as boredom.  Really?  I know you grew up in the day when as kinds we had to make due with whatever we had.  I remember that more than half the time, I had a great time playing with the empty grape juice bottles that were left over from little treats my mother would get me at gas stations.  I'd turn them into space ships or submarines and have a blast for hours.  And since you're probably older than me, you probably know that sort of thing better than I do.

Boredome.  lol  That's funny.  Boredom can be relieved by doing what you love.  You don't know what you love?  You don't think you can do what you love without getting bored of it?  Or find new things to enjoy?  I think you're still stuck in the prison of poverty mindset at some level, if that's the case.  Adventure, fun and joy is all around you.

I was kind of surprised you abandoned OF, but I see why now.

edit: i agree

NO. thats NOT it Man. damn man you came down pretty hard on me for someone trusting you with all of this.geez.
What IM most afraid of is being bored,not because I'm not intelligent enough to get it or anything like that. its The"Hunt" would be taken out of the equation. the going after it.
I dont think its a poverty mind set ,its Im afraid some, how logically or illogically it may be ,that there wont be ANY more challenge in the game.for me. therefore no stimulation,no strong pull to ' got git it done' and related? I DID say it didnt all have to be logical. The Fear of beoredum doesnt'all have to be logicical. what IM also saying Shannon is this is great news coz now I know deeply what is it and can do something about it and I AM. quite simply knowing what it actually "is", I can now do something about it,now. thats great news to me, even if is "Thats ALL it was was THAT!!?" Kinda stuff. well that ' stuff' however commendable or not ,was getting in the way...but now I can do something about it all.
its like the Thorn in the Lions Paw, small and damn irritating ,once its pulled, the healing can begin,the healing balm applied, reclaimation.
Its being 'on the other side" of all of this...is where I'm headed. "The Fear of the Unknown" is what it really is.
Im not regretful that I switched over to USLM 4.2 its been absolutely the right move for me, and I have NOT abandoned working on fear and fear removal. If any thing its improved in some many ways. its win win for me either way, is the way I see and right now,just like you having to do what you need to do because of circumstance within your control and those things outside of your control,you've made decisions on what you needed/and need to do. Me, as a grown ass man,Im doing the same thing.

USLM v4.2 is showing up already in fact, something remarkable happened this morning thats never happened before,a situtation that I ususally need to remedy and take care this morning,by the time I showed up,it was already handeled.
turned around, and headed back to bed, some more sleep in time. its never happened before. also the insights and awarenesses are being made available to me,Shannon,that I didnt fully 'see' before ,as well.
2nd day out and its a damn good run for me,so far.
I did not abandon the Fear remover, at all , as I stated before,I have OF for the rest of my life on earth,and what in the long run,USLm v4.2 and UMS v2 will help me to accomplish is amoung other things,to be ina place ,in an even better enviroment to address and handel many more things,in full as such and in the mean time ,still addressing these issues and more.

(11-26-2020, 10:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-25-2020, 02:37 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2020, 05:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-24-2020, 03:30 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Hope youre well.

Im wondering with all my fears, does lack of self esteem, self worth or lack of confidence all stem from fear too and can OF work on helping with this?

having fallen for and lost the girl that I fell in love with and thought was the one has made me wonder did I lack something inside and if so was it all the above?

thanks

OF deals with fear.  If you fear is caused by something else, that will also be dealt with.

The way of the world is, you probably won't find "The One" during the first 30 - 35 years of your life.  So stop thinking like that.  You have to be developed enough for "The One" to want you.  Even if you meet them, they won't want you if you're not what they need.  You need to focus on becoming the best version of yourself you can be, and doing it without "The One".  I went through a lot of what you're talking about, and later on realized I was looking for someone to be my mother and take care of me so I didn't have to face my fears and grow up.  Not saying that's what you're doing, but it sounds familiar.

So my advice is, if you want a woman to choose you, work on being what she wants and needs.  That means developing yourself, improving yourself and making yourself all that you can be.  When you do that, you will have pick of the litter - believe me.  Good men are hard to find, and they have options.

Thank you Shannon, and ofcourse using OF is the first stage of trying to better myself. Any other tips do share on how to become the best version of myself I can.

I read something in this discussion about maybe you may upgrade OF from its current version to another more upto date version. If that is the case:

1) How much more advanced than currently will it really be?

2) I am currently on OF and hoping it works for me, would you think I would need to upgrade since im still waiting to execute?

thank you

The first and biggest problem you face is that you don't want to grow up.  So the best thing you can do is hold yourself accountable for what you do and do not accomplish.  As for upgrading OF, I know you guys would love that, but I don't have enough time to really work on figuring out how to upgrade FRM 4.9 right now, and the ideas I have so far are few and I don't have time or stability in the models to model them.  An upgrade of OF is not going to happen right now.  There is too much else to do.

As for waiting to execute, I honestly don't know how you're resisting that program (if you are).  But if you are, it likely involves a subconscious level of self deception and self delusion that there's nothing I can do about.  It basically boils down to responding to the list of instructions by changing your beliefs and perspectives such that the script can execute or be ignored, and you still achieve the failure to accomplish that program's goal.  It's the only foolproof way to defeat a subliminal, and I don't know how to do anything about it because it leaves me with nothing to work with to make the necessary changes.  I hope that's not what you're doing.

thanks Shannon. 

Regarding the "waiting to execute" I realise now after 3 cycles that the s7 old phone couldnt play US as per the stereo mp3 test you have. There was a slight slushing sound so I guess this hasnt helped. Ive now changed device to my s10 newer phone. It has the same sound when doing the test but when I was using the s10 initially during the start I felt as did you and others that I was getting something and OF was doing something so ill stick to my s10 phone.

If this fails me then I have no other means to play the sub sadly so it has to work on my s10 phone irrespective of what the speaker test reveals. fingers crossed!

(11-27-2020, 12:46 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]thanks Shannon. 

Regarding the "waiting to execute" I realise now after 3 cycles that the s7 old phone couldnt play US as per the stereo mp3 test you have. There was a slight slushing sound so I guess this hasnt helped. Ive now changed device to my s10 newer phone. It has the same sound when doing the test but when I was using the s10 initially during the start I felt as did you and others that I was getting something and OF was doing something so ill stick to my s10 phone.

If this fails me then I have no other means to play the sub sadly so it has to work on my s10 phone irrespective of what the speaker test reveals. fingers crossed!

Totally Respect your efforts. all the best with this method,Jake. Keith.

Didn't see THAT program coming...very random, lol.