Subliminal Talk

Are we going to see the return of the "meet them half way programing" in the new version of DMSI?

Hey @Shannon and all,

Since I have about 41 days left on the program, and need to decide what to do after:

-Is there anyone that can clearly say they've noticeably gained length/girth on the ME sub yet? It's a 9 month sub commitment, so I'm hesitant to commit 9 months without hearing the sub provides solid, tangible results worthy of the time investment. That's a lot of listening/development time is all.

-Is DMSI likely to be ready in 41 days? I've forgotten how far along it was, so I thought I'd ask if it was still far off, or close, etc.

-It won't kill me to continue OF a bit in preparation for DMSI if ME doesn't blow me away with testimonials. It's just, with my huge business fear cleared, the only real "fear" I have had over time, is related to girls/sex, so using DMSI even just for it's focused FRM instead of OF's general FRM, during this time we're in, seems like good business. To be honest though, throughout this OF journey, it has further entrenched my apparent lack of interest in women/sex beyond an admiring of beauty kind of thing. I don't know why, if it's removal of external validation and neediness, and/or just giving up on trying since it's always been such a painful and toxic experience. It's not like an angry vibe towards them, just kinda a "meh" vibe. Just seems like the value imbalance is so awful in general, if you get what I mean, just tired of one-way BS all the time. Really just dialed in to my business stuff more and more now, and enjoying it more than any girl stuff, which is almost impossible where I am now, for obvious reasons anyway...who knows when that is likely to change...It may seem weird about why I'd switch to DMSI then. The truth is, I don't really know why anymore. Maybe to experience if it CAN work, to experience sexual choice as I used to want so badly. To feel that experience, for the first time in my life. But again, it's an awful time to attempt it now perhaps, locally, I have almost zero possibility to use it as conventionally designed. At least the focused FRM can be useful long term, regardless. ME would be awesome to use in the downtime in the same way I've used OF to address issues I wouldn't have without this forced downtime I admit, but I need to see clear results of it working, and I could run that and remove a possible insecurity there as an alternative. We'll see. It's really about removing possible insecurities and building past them and improving now maybe, rather than an "end goal" I guess, it's odd to explain. Or, it could just be bad past experiences with girls, mixing with the current times I'm in and around in this place, colouring my perspective about girls.

I've written in my offline journal often about feeling like I'm at an abyss, or between two massively different realities. EXTREME differences between them. And going back and forth between them even during a day, or even more quickly. It can be a bit bewildering. You question your sanity, or rather, whether you're a positive thinker, or just delusional and not realistic etc. You bounce around all of those things, and back to positivity. It's awkward at times to figure which one is "you", lol.

Maybe it would be useful for me to make a summarised journal before the release of 5.8G, I'd hate for something to turn out relevant for me, but not have it posted in time so it can be scripted for. Looks like I'll have to get of my lazy butt and write one, lol.

Yeah, I wonder how many men have bought ME and are using it. I've seen one or two journals on the forum, maybe there are others who have bought it and don't use the forum, idk.

@Shannon Something similar to what Catman said regarding the DMSI release. If people are planning to run the new DMSI would you advise them to now stop any other sub they are running right now in preparation?

(10-02-2021, 03:34 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-29-2021, 12:18 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-28-2021, 05:19 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-26-2021, 01:17 PM)Oversoul Wrote: [ -> ]My libido went up by like 200% yesterday and today. DMSI TID?

Sorry I am gonna need proof

If you want proof of TID, here is what I can offer.

There have been multiple times that I have been working on a subliminal - including DMSI, two of those times - where people have reported things that they could only have reported if they were being affected either by a subliminal nobody had been told I was working on, or a module I had not said anything about working on.  Furthermore, both of the DMSI cases, the reports from TID - when people did not even always know they were reporting TID - were so on point that it allowed me to go in and solve issues in the script before I ever published it.  Again, when people either didn't know I was working on it, or didn't know I had included the module they were getting TID from.

There have also been multiple cases, including cases I have personally experienced, where people reported things they did not know was TID, which in my case I did not know was TID because I didn't even know I was going to be working on the program that caused it when I started getting the TID. 

TID took me a long time to prove to myself - years - because it is so fantastic an idea.  And yes, some of the reports could/might be placebo.  But we have had more than enough cases reported under the circumstances above that could only be explained by TID over the years that if you care to go search them out, there's plenty of proof available.

The fact is, TID is possible because we only perceive time to be a line of flowing "points of now".  It is not.  There's more explanations I have made if you care to look for it.

I was just joking …I should have written JK in the end

Yeah, didn't catch that. 

(10-02-2021, 03:36 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-01-2021, 11:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-01-2021, 10:45 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, is overcome premature ejaculation still in the plans before 6g or is it for 6g?

I don't know right now.  There's a lot up in the air at the moment and I have to get caught up from the vacation before I will know.

Shannon I was wondering if you can add Noporn and Nofap also in it …I mean even if we watch porn it to learn stuff to get better in bed and not using it as an escape mechanism

That will depend on whether or not that turns out to be the most beneficial for the majority of users.  I'll run it through the models and see what results when the time comes.

(10-03-2021, 01:00 AM)Shadow2200 Wrote: [ -> ]Are we going to see the return of the "meet them half way programing" in the new version of DMSI?

That was only present as "training wheels".  Absolutely not.

(10-03-2021, 04:25 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hey @Shannon and all,

Since I have about 41 days left on the program, and need to decide what to do after:

-Is there anyone that can clearly say they've noticeably gained length/girth on the ME sub yet? It's a 9 month sub commitment, so I'm hesitant to commit 9 months without hearing the sub provides solid, tangible results worthy of the time investment. That's a lot of listening/development time is all.

You know everything I know.  Almost no feedback on this one.

Quote:-Is DMSI likely to be ready in 41 days? I've forgotten how far along it was, so I thought I'd ask if it was still far off, or close, etc.

I can't say for sure yet, but I am about finished with determining what to add to it and in the process of learning how to build 5.8G, which in turn tells me how to design the 5.8G script.  The process of actually working with upgrading DMSI should be ~30-40 days when I am ready to start actual script upgrading and additions process.

Quote:-It won't kill me to continue OF a bit in preparation for DMSI if ME doesn't blow me away with testimonials. It's just, with my huge business fear cleared, the only real "fear" I have had over time, is related to girls/sex, so using DMSI even just for it's focused FRM instead of OF's general FRM, during this time we're in, seems like good business. To be honest though, throughout this OF journey, it has further entrenched my apparent lack of interest in women/sex beyond an admiring of beauty kind of thing. I don't know why, if it's removal of external validation and neediness, and/or just giving up on trying since it's always been such a painful and toxic experience. It's not like an angry vibe towards them, just kinda a "meh" vibe. Just seems like the value imbalance is so awful in general, if you get what I mean, just tired of one-way BS all the time. Really just dialed in to my business stuff more and more now, and enjoying it more than any girl stuff, which is almost impossible where I am now, for obvious reasons anyway...who knows when that is likely to change...It may seem weird about why I'd switch to DMSI then. The truth is, I don't really know why anymore. Maybe to experience if it CAN work, to experience sexual choice as I used to want so badly. To feel that experience, for the first time in my life. But again, it's an awful time to attempt it now perhaps, locally, I have almost zero possibility to use it as conventionally designed. At least the focused FRM can be useful long term, regardless. ME would be awesome to use in the downtime in the same way I've used OF to address issues I wouldn't have without this forced downtime I admit, but I need to see clear results of it working, and I could run that and remove a possible insecurity there as an alternative. We'll see. It's really about removing possible insecurities and building past them and improving now maybe, rather than an "end goal" I guess, it's odd to explain. Or, it could just be bad past experiences with girls, mixing with the current times I'm in and around in this place, colouring my perspective about girls.

Testimonials or not, ME takes too much time if you want to do DMSI.  I suggest all the OF/FRM you can get before you do DMSI.

Quote:I've written in my offline journal often about feeling like I'm at an abyss, or between two massively different realities. EXTREME differences between them. And going back and forth between them even during a day, or even more quickly. It can be a bit bewildering. You question your sanity, or rather, whether you're a positive thinker, or just delusional and not realistic etc. You bounce around all of those things, and back to positivity. It's awkward at times to figure which one is "you", lol.

Maybe it would be useful for me to make a summarised journal before the release of 5.8G, I'd hate for something to turn out relevant for me, but not have it posted in time so it can be scripted for. Looks like I'll have to get of my lazy butt and write one, lol.

The experience you describe re the abyss and two different major realities shows that you're responding to the scripting, but some part of you is still resisting, and the result is roughly pooling energy into two opposed realities that your resistant parts are using to prevent the desired outcome.  I understand that already and I'm working to do what I can to tip the favor in the direction of the subliminals.

Basically what you're seeing is proof that not only do the subliminals work, but that there are multiple major probabilities in what we perceive as the "future" that can exist simultaneously.

(10-03-2021, 08:43 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Something similar to what Catman said regarding the DMSI release. If people are planning to run the new DMSI would you advise them to now stop any other sub they are running right now in preparation?

My best estimate is that you'll need to stop between now and 10 days from now, but I have to finish the 5.8G build process successfully at least once before I can really start focusing on DMSI 3.4 enough to know what is what.  So far all attempts to build it have failed.  The solution option I am working on right now is going to take me a day or two to know if it works.

(10-04-2021, 05:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-02-2021, 03:36 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-01-2021, 11:00 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-01-2021, 10:45 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, is overcome premature ejaculation still in the plans before 6g or is it for 6g?

I don't know right now.  There's a lot up in the air at the moment and I have to get caught up from the vacation before I will know.

Shannon I was wondering if you can add Noporn and Nofap also in it …I mean even if we watch porn it to learn stuff to get better in bed and not using it as an escape mechanism

That will depend on whether or not that turns out to be the most beneficial for the majority of users.  I'll run it through the models and see what results when the time comes.

Ok,That’s was a bad idea ..what if you simply make Noporn and Nofap with new frm.. come on bro I have been waiting  for years.. Since 4g era

Good Morning,Shannon! Hows DMSI Mystery theater 3000 coming along? yuk yuk yuk !! ( Curly from the 3 stooges! Ha!)

Never mind. Saw the latest post about it two posts abouve. thanks none the less.

Shannon, I remember you saying it might be impossible to run 2 subs at the same time (latest tech and above).

Does this apply to self improvement subs only or is there a possibility we one day might be able to run for example UMS and ME, or LTU and grow thick hair, or grow taller etc?

Basically self improvement sub + physical change sub rather than 2 self improvement subs.  This combination would like pose the less difficulties when combined.

(10-04-2021, 05:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-03-2021, 01:00 AM)Shadow2200 Wrote: [ -> ]Are we going to see the return of the "meet them half way programing" in the new version of DMSI?

That was only present as "training wheels".  Absolutely not.

i hace noticed although the "meet them half way programing" was just a training aid. It did help people try to make something happen when nothing was happening with the aura alone. So it could be useful as a back up.

@Shannon I finished OFV2 on Friday September 24th, it being the day off of the cycle.

I was going to start MLS 2 weeks after which would be this Saturday October 9th.

But I feel the need to do OFV3 instead.

Can I do OFV3, then MLS, then back to OFV3 then back to MLS?

Or do I need to do what was suggested for MLS which is to do 4 runs consecutively?

I was listening to OFV2 Hybrid Ocean Surf Silent through my headphones while sleeping.

The OFV3 instructions says: "Therefore, please take the specifics given here as guidelines for where and how to start using the program.  Use it this way for at least 14 days, and only adjust how you use it if you need to.

DO NOT use the Hybrid format until you are familiar with how the Masked and/or Ultrasonic formats affect you for at least one month of use each. Please be aware that Hybrid format in 5.75.7G may be overload for some or possibly all users."

Does that mean I still need to listen to Masked for at least 14 days to 1 month and/or Ultrasonic even if I have gone through Hybrid with OFV2?

So it's a 5 day cycle: Day 1 = 1 loop; Day 2 = 1 loop; Day 3, 4, 5 = off ?

Can I start OFV3 right away instead of this Saturday October 9th?