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(02-15-2021, 09:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2021, 12:03 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2021, 09:21 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2021, 07:04 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2021, 05:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]And one of those focus fires I have in queue is going to make you happy, I think.

 OH yeah? I wonder. must have something 'er another to do with Money/Success
 I wish I could use a focus fire WITH a Main Line Sub,Like what Im currently using USLM v4.2...I know i know,ya cant.
I dont,but wish I could.

The focusfire I'm talking about has nothing to do with money or success.  Smile


Quote: Will you be breaking ground on UMSv2 some time in March,all the while, work on DMSI and the Non -McDonald's secret sauce subby  Sam-Mich - you're working on,as well? Especially since you're already using UMS1 ,for now,anyway.seem congruent ,to me.

Looking forward to finding out why this focus fire would be so appealing. Be nice. theyve never really held much for me,as I always wanted to use   ahhh ummm   'da full monty" ha!!

Might be February, might be March.

Quote:After thought: DO the Focus Fire subs come with DRS & FRM 4.9 ??? Not being into them much I never even thought to inquire.

When those things are helpful, why not?  But it depends on what the models say.


 Alright ,cool. thank you! 
 one quick question, will the focus fire subs be thee same price as the  regulars  ,115$ a pop or less becoz it is a FF?
 Just curious. thanks.

You know how pricing works.  It's based on generation.  Because of the pandemic, prices have not been raised with the advancements to generation, so a single stage of 5.5G and up will be $114.95 per copy.  Now if you really want me to raise prices, I can.  But I don't think this is the best time to do that.  Wink

Ya I know how it works,I know that part,but given it being a  shorter subliminal prgram,so I thought,I thougt well maybe its the same as the full length subs or maybe its less,that what is REALLY was....it was for me,the pandemic or any such thing, as I stated before, have not inquired about focus fire subby's much....well....now ....I ....know.
(02-15-2021, 10:19 AM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2021, 09:37 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The models specifically and uniformly disqualified every attempt I made to find a way to include that.

I actually find that interesting. It makes me wonder then if the whole IQ, etc having to do with genetics might not be as influential as some scientist believe then if it was giving you that type of answer. Granted it might not have said why I guess. But still interesting none the less.

I would say it is at least as likely that I just don't yet know how to safely and effectively manipulate genetics at that level of complexity.
Question for @Shannon

Currently 4 months into E4 and one of the things I'm noticing is that I'm getting morning wood way more frequently during my on days (especially on masked).

Additionally, it seems I'm having an easier time getting erections naturally and feel more connected to that part of my body. It seems like the program is at least partially reversing what I assumed was PIED. Sometimes the effects seem to fade but I assume that means I need to keep going.

The E4 description indicates there is some sort of sexual healing involved, but can you explain exactly what that part of it is supposed to do and how it connects with these observations?
(02-15-2021, 11:40 AM)Vasil Wrote: [ -> ]Question for @Shannon

Currently 4 months into E4 and one of the things I'm noticing is that I'm getting morning wood way more frequently during my on days (especially on masked).

Additionally, it seems I'm having an easier time getting erections naturally and feel more connected to that part of my body. It seems like the program is at least partially reversing what I assumed was PIED. Sometimes the effects seem to fade but I assume that means I need to keep going.

The E4 description indicates there is some sort of sexual healing involved, but can you explain exactly what that part of it is supposed to do and how it connects with these observations?

What you're seeing is that your ED was due to emotional triggers.  What the world loves to forget is that despite the social hype, men have emotions and are emotional creatures just like women are.  We process and experience our emotions differently, largely because of what society teaches men about how to deal with our emotions, but we are still humans, and we still have emotions.

In many men, the association with sex and sexual arousal involves the emotions.  That can be feeling vulnerable, or perhaps feeling that sex and love are intertwined, and other things as well.  

We have long seen evidence that "porn addiction" really isn't addiction, it's just a fear driven coping mechanism that triggers more fear, which triggers the coping mechanism more, which forms a vicious cycle.  When we remove the fear, the cycle is broken and the interest in porn as a coping mechanism is lost.  

Likewise, "porn induced erectile dysfunction" is a complex interplay of fear, coping through masturbation, using porn, acclimating to porn, and then forming beliefs about this that lead to guilt, shame and or fear, which are negative emotional states.  If you internalize the belief that "I can't get it up because I masturbate so much", the subconscious will take that not as an observation, but as a command.  "It's required that I only get hard to porn, because the conscious mind says I'm not allowed to become aroused by women, only porn."  The conscious mind then responds with doubling down on the belief in PIED, and strengthening it because "it has evidence!" and this leads to more fear and negative emotions, which hinder sexual arousal when they are triggered, while creating the negative expectation by the conscious mind that "I can't get it up when I have a woman."  

The subconscious also understands that expectation as a command, and executes it as such, making it real.  (That is how placebo works, actually.)  

When you start healing the emotional states, and the issues, beliefs and expectations that trigger negative emotional states, beliefs and expectations, you not only heal the emotions, but the resultant symptoms as well.

In many cases, ED, and especially PIED, are caused not by a physical damage or drug effect, but by negative beliefs, expectations and emotional states that are associated with sex or sex with a specific type of person, in this case, women.  

Because society assumes and expects that "men have no emotions", they are treated as being without emotions.  Women are commonly judgmental of men sexually for size, shape and performance, and they don't just criticize him to his face, they also do it publicly, talking to their friends and even publishing things on social media.  So let's take a virgin guy in his teens who doesn't know how to put on a condom because he's a virgin and he never did it before.  He gets his big chance with a girl - maybe not his dream girl, but a real girl who for whatever reason, wants to have sex with him.  She strips, and he's aroused, but then he strips and she starts making snarky comments about his penis size.  Is this going to A) make him hard, or B) make him feel emotionally and sexually vulnerable, and kill his arousal and erection?  

If he can make it to putting on a condom without losing his erection (let's say she doesn't judge his penis size negatively), but then tries to put it on upside down, and she starts laughing at him for his inexperience, is this going to A) make him hard, or B) make him feel emotionally and sexually vulnerable, and kill his arousal and erection?  

Now consider that he's somehow made it to putting on this condom correctly, and he gets inside her but pops immediately.  He is a virgin, of course, and as such is overexcited sexually (if he hasn't been sexually or emotionally traumatized by this point) and probably has years of horny to catch up on dealing with.  Once again, an easy opportunity for her to laugh and criticize.  And even if she doesn't laugh and criticize him now, will she later to her friends?  He has to worry about that as well.  And those friends may not be so kind to him, even if he is in public.

There's a lot of ways that ED can get started based on a scenario like this.  Even if he's not a virgin, giving him criticism in the rightt way, at the right time and place, can emotionally devastate a man, and this will become "something to avoid in the future" to his subconscious.  How best to avoid it?  Don't let sex happen.  And if all else fails?  At best, he gets to sex again, but he's going to be afraid of her criticism, which will - you guessed it - kill his arousal.

Men are emotional creatures, just as any other HUMAN is, and their emotions are no less valuable or worthless than those of any other HUMAN.  But because men are taught that emotions are feminine, and weakness, they go along with society and participate in what amounts to self abuse by denying and repressing their own natural emotions.  That never has a good outcome... it just makes things worse.

So basically, it all boils down to healing the emotional wounds that he may have suffered, which frees him up in a lot of ways.  The E4 script is designed to make that happen in whatever direction is appropriate, and handle whatever aspect is appropriate.  So if you have ED as a result of emotional damage, abuse or trauma, once it gets to a certain point in it's function cycle, you will see the ED fading out as the reasons for it are healed.
(02-15-2021, 12:33 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2021, 11:40 AM)Vasil Wrote: [ -> ]Question for @Shannon

Currently 4 months into E4 and one of the things I'm noticing is that I'm getting morning wood way more frequently during my on days (especially on masked).

Additionally, it seems I'm having an easier time getting erections naturally and feel more connected to that part of my body. It seems like the program is at least partially reversing what I assumed was PIED. Sometimes the effects seem to fade but I assume that means I need to keep going.

The E4 description indicates there is some sort of sexual healing involved, but can you explain exactly what that part of it is supposed to do and how it connects with these observations?

What you're seeing is that your ED was due to emotional triggers.  What the world loves to forget is that despite the social hype, men have emotions and are emotional creatures just like women are.  We process and experience our emotions differently, largely because of what society teaches men about how to deal with our emotions, but we are still humans, and we still have emotions.

In many men, the association with sex and sexual arousal involves the emotions.  That can be feeling vulnerable, or perhaps feeling that sex and love are intertwined, and other things as well.  

We have long seen evidence that "porn addiction" really isn't addiction, it's just a fear driven coping mechanism that triggers more fear, which triggers the coping mechanism more, which forms a vicious cycle.  When we remove the fear, the cycle is broken and the interest in porn as a coping mechanism is lost.  

Likewise, "porn induced erectile dysfunction" is a complex interplay of fear, coping through masturbation, using porn, acclimating to porn, and then forming beliefs about this that lead to guilt, shame and or fear, which are negative emotional states.  If you internalize the belief that "I can't get it up because I masturbate so much", the subconscious will take that not as an observation, but as a command.  "It's required that I only get hard to porn, because the conscious mind says I'm not allowed to become aroused by women, only porn."  The conscious mind then responds with doubling down on the belief in PIED, and strengthening it because "it has evidence!" and this leads to more fear and negative emotions, which hinder sexual arousal when they are triggered, while creating the negative expectation by the conscious mind that "I can't get it up when I have a woman."  

The subconscious also understands that expectation as a command, and executes it as such, making it real.  (That is how placebo works, actually.)  

When you start healing the emotional states, and the issues, beliefs and expectations that trigger negative emotional states, beliefs and expectations, you not only heal the emotions, but the resultant symptoms as well.

In many cases, ED, and especially PIED, are caused not by a physical damage or drug effect, but by negative beliefs, expectations and emotional states that are associated with sex or sex with a specific type of person, in this case, women.  

Because society assumes and expects that "men have no emotions", they are treated as being without emotions.  Women are commonly judgmental of men sexually for size, shape and performance, and they don't just criticize him to his face, they also do it publicly, talking to their friends and even publishing things on social media.  So let's take a virgin guy in his teens who doesn't know how to put on a condom because he's a virgin and he never did it before.  He gets his big chance with a girl - maybe not his dream girl, but a real girl who for whatever reason, wants to have sex with him.  She strips, and he's aroused, but then he strips and she starts making snarky comments about his penis size.  Is this going to A) make him hard, or B) make him feel emotionally and sexually vulnerable, and kill his arousal and erection?  

If he can make it to putting on a condom without losing his erection (let's say she doesn't judge his penis size negatively), but then tries to put it on upside down, and she starts laughing at him for his inexperience, is this going to A) make him hard, or B) make him feel emotionally and sexually vulnerable, and kill his arousal and erection?  

Now consider that he's somehow made it to putting on this condom correctly, and he gets inside her but pops immediately.  He is a virgin, of course, and as such is overexcited sexually (if he hasn't been sexually or emotionally traumatized by this point) and probably has years of horny to catch up on dealing with.  Once again, an easy opportunity for her to laugh and criticize.  And even if she doesn't laugh and criticize him now, will she later to her friends?  He has to worry about that as well.  And those friends may not be so kind to him, even if he is in public.

There's a lot of ways that ED can get started based on a scenario like this.  Even if he's not a virgin, giving him criticism in the rightt way, at the right time and place, can emotionally devastate a man, and this will become "something to avoid in the future" to his subconscious.  How best to avoid it?  Don't let sex happen.  And if all else fails?  At best, he gets to sex again, but he's going to be afraid of her criticism, which will - you guessed it - kill his arousal.

Men are emotional creatures, just as any other HUMAN is, and their emotions are no less valuable or worthless than those of any other HUMAN.  But because men are taught that emotions are feminine, and weakness, they go along with society and participate in what amounts to self abuse by denying and repressing their own natural emotions.  That never has a good outcome... it just makes things worse.

So basically, it all boils down to healing the emotional wounds that he may have suffered, which frees him up in a lot of ways.  The E4 script is designed to make that happen in whatever direction is appropriate, and handle whatever aspect is appropriate.  So if you have ED as a result of emotional damage, abuse or trauma, once it gets to a certain point in it's function cycle, you will see the ED fading out as the reasons for it are healed.

@Shannon 

Very nice explanation. 

Regarding E4, when I finish my run in May, how long should I wait until I start my next sub. I am thinking about running OF to deal with my fear issues.
(02-15-2021, 12:46 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon 

Very nice explanation. 

Regarding E4, when I finish my run in May, how long should I wait until I start my next sub. I am thinking about running OF to deal with my fear issues.

Thank you.

I suggest spending 1 week to 1 month taking some time off a long run.
(02-15-2021, 12:33 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2021, 11:40 AM)Vasil Wrote: [ -> ]Question for @Shannon

Currently 4 months into E4 and one of the things I'm noticing is that I'm getting morning wood way more frequently during my on days (especially on masked).

Additionally, it seems I'm having an easier time getting erections naturally and feel more connected to that part of my body. It seems like the program is at least partially reversing what I assumed was PIED. Sometimes the effects seem to fade but I assume that means I need to keep going.

The E4 description indicates there is some sort of sexual healing involved, but can you explain exactly what that part of it is supposed to do and how it connects with these observations?

What you're seeing is that your ED was due to emotional triggers.  What the world loves to forget is that despite the social hype, men have emotions and are emotional creatures just like women are.  We process and experience our emotions differently, largely because of what society teaches men about how to deal with our emotions, but we are still humans, and we still have emotions.

In many men, the association with sex and sexual arousal involves the emotions.  That can be feeling vulnerable, or perhaps feeling that sex and love are intertwined, and other things as well.  

We have long seen evidence that "porn addiction" really isn't addiction, it's just a fear driven coping mechanism that triggers more fear, which triggers the coping mechanism more, which forms a vicious cycle.  When we remove the fear, the cycle is broken and the interest in porn as a coping mechanism is lost.  

Likewise, "porn induced erectile dysfunction" is a complex interplay of fear, coping through masturbation, using porn, acclimating to porn, and then forming beliefs about this that lead to guilt, shame and or fear, which are negative emotional states.  If you internalize the belief that "I can't get it up because I masturbate so much", the subconscious will take that not as an observation, but as a command.  "It's required that I only get hard to porn, because the conscious mind says I'm not allowed to become aroused by women, only porn."  The conscious mind then responds with doubling down on the belief in PIED, and strengthening it because "it has evidence!" and this leads to more fear and negative emotions, which hinder sexual arousal when they are triggered, while creating the negative expectation by the conscious mind that "I can't get it up when I have a woman."  

The subconscious also understands that expectation as a command, and executes it as such, making it real.  (That is how placebo works, actually.)  

When you start healing the emotional states, and the issues, beliefs and expectations that trigger negative emotional states, beliefs and expectations, you not only heal the emotions, but the resultant symptoms as well.

In many cases, ED, and especially PIED, are caused not by a physical damage or drug effect, but by negative beliefs, expectations and emotional states that are associated with sex or sex with a specific type of person, in this case, women.  

Because society assumes and expects that "men have no emotions", they are treated as being without emotions.  Women are commonly judgmental of men sexually for size, shape and performance, and they don't just criticize him to his face, they also do it publicly, talking to their friends and even publishing things on social media.  So let's take a virgin guy in his teens who doesn't know how to put on a condom because he's a virgin and he never did it before.  He gets his big chance with a girl - maybe not his dream girl, but a real girl who for whatever reason, wants to have sex with him.  She strips, and he's aroused, but then he strips and she starts making snarky comments about his penis size.  Is this going to A) make him hard, or B) make him feel emotionally and sexually vulnerable, and kill his arousal and erection?  

If he can make it to putting on a condom without losing his erection (let's say she doesn't judge his penis size negatively), but then tries to put it on upside down, and she starts laughing at him for his inexperience, is this going to A) make him hard, or B) make him feel emotionally and sexually vulnerable, and kill his arousal and erection?  

Now consider that he's somehow made it to putting on this condom correctly, and he gets inside her but pops immediately.  He is a virgin, of course, and as such is overexcited sexually (if he hasn't been sexually or emotionally traumatized by this point) and probably has years of horny to catch up on dealing with.  Once again, an easy opportunity for her to laugh and criticize.  And even if she doesn't laugh and criticize him now, will she later to her friends?  He has to worry about that as well.  And those friends may not be so kind to him, even if he is in public.

There's a lot of ways that ED can get started based on a scenario like this.  Even if he's not a virgin, giving him criticism in the rightt way, at the right time and place, can emotionally devastate a man, and this will become "something to avoid in the future" to his subconscious.  How best to avoid it?  Don't let sex happen.  And if all else fails?  At best, he gets to sex again, but he's going to be afraid of her criticism, which will - you guessed it - kill his arousal.

Men are emotional creatures, just as any other HUMAN is, and their emotions are no less valuable or worthless than those of any other HUMAN.  But because men are taught that emotions are feminine, and weakness, they go along with society and participate in what amounts to self abuse by denying and repressing their own natural emotions.  That never has a good outcome... it just makes things worse.

So basically, it all boils down to healing the emotional wounds that he may have suffered, which frees him up in a lot of ways.  The E4 script is designed to make that happen in whatever direction is appropriate, and handle whatever aspect is appropriate.  So if you have ED as a result of emotional damage, abuse or trauma, once it gets to a certain point in it's function cycle, you will see the ED fading out as the reasons for it are healed.

Thanks Shannon, very helpful and thorough explanation.
@Shannon I did have one other question that came to mind Shannon if you don't mind. I know with things like DMSI you said some things will be permanent while things like the aura will fade eventually after you stop listening to the sub because the aura requires too much energy and focus. I was wondering if in your opinion a lot of the changes done by the new MLS will be permanent? I'm assuming so possibly because it is making physical changes to the brain as well with possibly wiring it differently to be better at learning?
(02-13-2021, 11:02 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]ChangeMaker said...

Quote:I wanted to ask you if there is anything related to black magic/occult stuffs or something similar you use in any of your subliminal or any products? I am asking this because I don't want to involve in any magickal stuffs because of my personal preference. Another reason this question comes to my mind is because several friends of mine reported that they are using subliminals from a certain company and that the company uses occultish stuffs in their subliminals, and they are very open about it. I mean they publicly say they do. That info brings doubt into my mind that if all the subliminals are made that way.

Although I am not very religious, I don't want to involve into anything that has little bits of magickal rituals or similar thing. That's why clearing that doubt is very important for me.

We don't allow people to discuss magick and the like here on the forum because it's not appropriate, and I don't put "black magick" into any of my subliminals.  "The occult" is a broad subject because "occult" doesn't mean what you think it means.  It comes from Latin, and means simply "hidden".  It refers to knowledge that was kept hidden from those who were not wise enough to use it safely or wisely.  These days, most of that knowledge has been foolishly published for anyone to see, and there are still very few who understand it or use it wisely.  What I use in my subliminals is your natural subconscious abilities.  Nothing more.  Remember that our creed is, "Safe, effective, useful."  

While you can use "magick" to do things like erect a directional reflection shield, really what you're doing is communicating to your subconscious that you want to use your natural energy field in a defensive protective way.  Which is what I am doing in the script.  Is it really "magick" or is "magick" just the use of your natural subconscious abilities that you did not consciously know you had?  

"Black magick", any apprentice of any school of the Art worth a damn will know, does not exist.  Magick is a tool, and as such, it is what it is, just as a hammer, a saw and a screwdriver are.  Nobody ever asked, "Is this hammer evil?" because someone used it to murder someone else.  A tool is a tool.  It is how it is used that matters, and that depends on the user, not the tool.  

Those who do harm to themselves and others using "magick" are either not understanding, or not believing, certain Universal Laws.  You cannot act without repercussions, and you will always have your actions balanced out.  If you act to harm, you will experience harm.  There is no escaping that Law.  For that reason, anyone who intentionally harms themselves or another using "magick" is, in my opinion, an idiot.  And they will probably be a short lived idiot as well.  

Unintentionally harming yourself or others with "magick" is no excuse either; it still invokes the Law.  This is why this knowledge was kept hidden for so long: too many humans are just itching to win the Darwin Award.  Keeping it hidden was a way of keeping the idiots out there from hurting themselves.  It takes a thorough understanding of the Laws of the Universe before manipulating that universe can be a safe act.  This is sadly something that has been forgotten and ignored for too long.

My subliminals make full use of your natural abilities, consciously and subconsciously.  There is nothing "evil" or "supernatural" going on.  That is why my subliminals are safe to use.  I'm not stupid, and I'm not going to take liberties with your mind, your free will or your safety.

Quote:1. For some reason, all the women I like friend zone me. I confessed to some women I like and all rejected me and they said "they thought we were just friends" Sad  Although I joined PUA world like many, and tried to solve everything logically, tried to act like an alpha (because I think I am beta, weak, immature), honestly, I couldn't. And worse, I keep attracting same kind of women who will friend zone me and create huge depression in my mind. It is like Shannon's cycle. Mine comes like every 2 year or so.

Pickup training doesn't work for guys like you because guys like you need to make changes at the deep subconscious level, and do it in ways that Pickup does not address or account for in dealing with the person trying to do it.  Guys like you will not be able to "fake it".  Women will see through your act and treat you exactly as they have treated you.  In fact, for guys like you, "fake it till you make it" always fails to "make it" because women respond very poorly if they detect you "faking it", which leaves you unable to ever "make it".

Quote:2. I believe I have kept so many emotions suppressed inside me, and tried to hide all that now they wanna come out. how do I know? Many imaginary scenes automatically play inside my head with sudden outburst of emotion. Let me give an example. My mother is very very strict. She is like alpha in my family, she even dominates my father. My father is honestly weak, beta kind. So since childhood, my mom restricted me from many things. She told me seduction and sex are very very bad, terrible sin. She kept me home while other boys socialized and played outside. She still wants me to be in complete control of her. and many other things. So, after joining PUA, I realized that she programmed me to fail today with women. I probably have deep shame, guilt towards seduction and sex, so I avoid them subconsciously. Now I have huge anger towards her. I mentally imagine fighting with her and even killing her. Huge emotion comes up too, as if its happening in reality. Maybe my emotions want to come up and get released, but I am stuck.

The dominant, insecure, manipulative and controlling mother paired with the weak father.  How predictable that you should have these issues as a result.  

Quote:3. Although my mom restricted me in many ways, I secretly developed terrible porn and masturbation addiction. I can't live without masturbating 5-15 times to porn per week. I am now 25 btw. I feel really guilty after doing it. every single time. I feel very low mentally. physically it's not that of an issue. I recover within 1-2 days. But something inside me is telling that the addiction is ruining my life. Shannon told last time that I might be a very high testosterone guy like him. I can't get rid of the guilt though. And I have developed premature ejaculation. I am still virgin though. but now, it takes me 5-10 seconds to blow my load. It used to be lot longer when I was younger.

You could be strapped to a table unable to reach your penis for as long as you had air, water and food, and you would live.  Let's not get overly dramatic here.  The problem isn't that you can't live without it, the problem is that the part of you that seeks masturbation as a method of dealing with your fears is currently dominant. It is probably the only way you know how to cope with your situation.  All you need to do is develop a new, better coping mechanism.  You hold beliefs that cause you to self punish with guilt, shame and fear, and then to deal with that you seek some source of escape, comfort, pleasure, relief, something.  The issue you almost certainly have is that you also hold beliefs that your coping mechanisms are bad, which makes your situation a vicious circle: feel bad, punish self, seek relief, feel bad, punish self... and it seems very likely that the more fearful you get, the faster you achieve orgasm, because for some reason your subconscious sees orgasm as some sort of relief.  Maybe it is the only pleasure you have?  But this also triggers negative responses and fear.  

Your first issue is going to be to stop the vicious cycle.  You will need to deal with and neutralize your guilt, shame, fear and faulty beliefs to do that.  

Quote:4. Last time I told my academic performance was ruining too. However, I suddenly gained confidence in my academic life and right now I am not only doing well, I am the best guy in my university. So that's one good news. I will graduate at the beginning of 2022.

Congratulations.  At least not everything is bad!

Quote:I am very perfectionist type. For some reason I couldn't follow anything from any place. I didn't go full in with PUA stuffs, neither did I go full in with Shannon's advice (which was to either use free Emotional healing, or AM6 if I can afford it). I don't know what is still blocking me. I am also surprised that my academic life dramatically improved even if I did nothing. I just wanted to improve my grades so I don't fall into probation in university. I am guilty of using several other subliminal, Quantum healing, hypnosis, NLP, PSTEC, Tapping, meditation, visualization etc etc. everything. I never mixed anything with Shannon's subliminal though. Shannon prohibited it and I recalled, stayed away.

Perfectionism is the result of fear of criticism and the inability to handle it.  You tried using all of that other stuff, but you didn't try the simple, free option you had from me, probably because you're afraid what I offer will actually work. 

Quote:My current goals are -

1. finishing my university well (which I am doing well at the moment) and moving to a different place, because I really think I should be away from my mom for some time so I can grow freely, she still decides everything in my life right now and I am also comfortable with that

2. getting really good with women (no PUA stuffs helped me so far, I implemented little too Bebe-pleure )
3. become more social ( I am not that bad though, I can easily stand in front of 50-100 people and present something, I am a designer, so I do it often, but I do it because I have to do it, not for fun),

4. solving my premature ejaculation issue and becoming skilled in bed too,

5. start earning money,

6. clearing my mental issues,

7. becoming health and fit (I am skinny), and stylish

8. becoming a MAN, alpha powerful man

I want to use subliminal again and I wanna do it with your stuffs. I don't know for how long will I stick to, but I will have to start first. In today's world, we have too many options and we implement nothing! I am very guilty of that.

If you want my advice, forget about women and PUA.  You have a lot of work to do on yourself before women will matter.  Finish college and do the best you can.  You would be surprised how well a man can do simply by being successful financially, which is what a good job resulting from college degree will do for you.  

In my opinion, you need to move away from your family and start building yourself up. You want to do this when it makes the most financial sense, unless it's a desperate "now or never" scenario. 

When you do certain specific things, you will find that all of your issues fall like dominoes, one after another.  The key, as I said before, is to break the vicious cycle you're in.  You need to get away from the toxic people in your life who induce, enforce and reinforce toxic thinking and beliefs that result in guilt, shame and fear.  You need to interrupt the thinking and beliefs that result in guilt, shame and fear.  You need to stop worrying about things that don't matter.  Stop turning everything into a reason to beat yourself up, berate yourself, put yourself down, punish yourself.  

If you want to try using my subliminals, then you need to commit to doing it right.  If you can't afford to buy something, then use EHPRA free, and use it for at least 6 months.  If you can afford to buy something, then you're going to be most helped by LTUv6, OFv2 or EHPRA v4 in that order.  AM6 is a useful program for what it is, but it's very old technology at this point, does not have the ability to handle the fear levels you have, and will not be the best choice anymore.  Women will come as a natural part of you healing and fixing yourself and achieving your true inner potential.  Focus on that.

If you want to use something else, then pick one thing and stick with it.  Your fears will try to get you to switch back and forth so that part of you does not have to deal with actually making progress by keeping your conscious self chasing it's tail.  Whatever you do... stick with it, follow the instructions and FINISH WHAT YOU START.


@Shannon thank you for detailed advice. Like you said, AM6 is too old to handle this level of emotional baggages right now. So I think EHPRA Free one is same as AM6 (old and not the best solution right now).

I am thinking about investing on myself. You wrote "If you can afford to buy something, then you're going to be most helped by LTUv6, OFv2 or EHPRA v4 in that order".

Did you mean, I should do all three in that sequence? or did you give me the best, then next best, then next best in terms of power, effectiveness?

I am planning to do either OF v2 or EHPRA v4 right now, because these are under my range of current affordability. I can also do DMSI/ Natural seduction (which you created recently), but I think you won't recommend me those now, as you advised me to forget about women and PUA for now. I am trying my best to forget those, but whenever I see a hot woman walking by/ see someone's facebook post/see couples I feel jealous inside and feel like I need those moments too. I feel a little bit desperate, vulnerable.

Another thing I didn't tell you in that post, I always notice that women find me attractive, they give me signals and I also can read those. Even today! I went outside home to a bank to deliver my tution fees, I saw a beautiful girl whose eyes changed as she saw me on road, I just could feel the attraction. Then coincidentally we both entered the same bank. She seemed freshment university student of my university. I said hi, are you from my university, she smiled and said yes. Then nothing else happened as I finished my work and left, but she was looking at me as I was leaving. I could tell that she wanted to ingage in more conversation or similar... This incident reminds me of something. I get this kind of opportunities always, but something invisible blocks me to take it forwards, or I have no clue what to do next...

So I see this as positive as well. At least I am not like my other friends who complain women never find them attractive. My issue probably appeared directly from my mother's comment which I recall clearly. "Always stay away from seduction, it is a great sin". Like I told you, I have been strictly raised by her "rules", I somehow don't disappoint her. I once wrote on a paper, as I was randomly journaling my life, "all the things I do but don't wanna do, I still do them to make my parents happy".

Anyway, I will follow your advice and focus on career now. Women will matter later. I am still very immature and CAN'T HOLD ANY PRESSURE. So I always try to avoid all. Even I can't look into the eyes of strangers. I remember my grand mother once told me, when you talk to a seller in the market, look directly into his/her eyes and TALK. But me?  LolI break eye contact in fear, as if he will kill me/I am guilty. 

I will have to shift country in 2022. I can't do it now as you said it doesn't make sense at my current financial condition. And I have only 3 more semester to graduate, I will do it well, as I am shining well here. I will utilize that. It also helps me to keep my head up. Even my internal selk talk changed. "I am the best student on my uni" which used to be "why did I choose to study architecture?".

Anyway, I will go for OF/EHPRA (/DMSI/Natural Seduction- in you advice them in case). I can afford them now. I am committed to follow everything you said, so I dropped PUA stuffs.
(02-15-2021, 09:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2021, 12:03 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] Alright ,cool. thank you! 
 one quick question, will the focus fire subs be thee same price as the  regulars  ,115$ a pop or less becoz it is a FF?
 Just curious. thanks.

You know how pricing works.  It's based on generation.  Because of the pandemic, prices have not been raised with the advancements to generation, so a single stage of 5.5G and up will be $114.95 per copy.  Now if you really want me to raise prices, I can.  But I don't think this is the best time to do that.  Wink

LMFAO - this reminds me of when a client of mine asked for a discount and I explained how they were already receiving a discount, and that I thought maybe I should hike the rate I was training them at.   Lol
@Shannon  Will DRS be included in the new MLS 5.75.6G?
(02-16-2021, 12:24 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2021, 09:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2021, 12:03 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] Alright ,cool. thank you! 
 one quick question, will the focus fire subs be thee same price as the  regulars  ,115$ a pop or less becoz it is a FF?
 Just curious. thanks.

You know how pricing works.  It's based on generation.  Because of the pandemic, prices have not been raised with the advancements to generation, so a single stage of 5.5G and up will be $114.95 per copy.  Now if you really want me to raise prices, I can.  But I don't think this is the best time to do that.  Wink

LMFAO - this reminds me of when a client of mine asked for a discount and I explained how they were already receiving a discount, and that I thought maybe I should hike the rate I was training them at.   Lol


 Im sorry I ever asked the question,. I asked a sincere genuine question because I TRULY did not know whether this would be  a lesser priced sub,because it is a focus fire and not a regular full on sub; THe response back to me:
I Not only get insulted  for asking now Im being mocked/laugh at,THIS IS BULLSHIT!!  double standard BS, yawl get to say anything you want to me and yawl can say me, and its all my fault responding/reacting back !! BS> YOU dont get to insult me like this and then put it off on me IML!! NOT LMAO!
you all DONT know me worth AF but love to act like you do! I've never met you, never ever spoken on the phone,never spent anytime together person,ect. this disresectful AF! Yes it is too.
To be fair, Keith has never been cheap and never been a whiner, it also felt like a sincere question to me. He deserves a tad more kindness.
Let's keep this discussion productive and not derail it. We are here to discuss subliminals. There are certain rules on how to behave here.
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