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(11-01-2020, 08:19 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon's quote": "In fact I have concluded that I cannot build UMS v2 as a multi-stage set because LTUv6 is taking so much time and work " -

Me:  What!!?? does that mean,are you saying " you can not build UMS v2,until you are finished with LTU v6 or at all as a 6 stage set?
I thought the flow was going to be: Finish building DMSI, and right afterwards, finish the next 4 stages of LTUv6 and then right on into UMS v2? is that not so? I hope you have a change of heart around this,before you get there( ready to up grade,build the new version of UMS v2!)

so were getting cheated out of  what could have been ,but LTUv6  isnt?

I'm slightly panicking right now....just a single stage ONLY? I thought you said it was too much to process as a single stage and therefore it brought up too much resistance and therefore has to be spread out,over 6 stages. that you wanted to be able to focus on one title at a time. please clarify and give some hope here. I've been waiting for this multi-stage set forever. thank you.
I Am truly afraid that it wont work as a single stage,like it did  the last time,like the out come was, last time!! (But that was before the new scripting,Platinum Lake Build,break thru's 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 & so on).... still concerned however. If you knew my circumstances you'd know why.

PS: after thought,how 'bout build,when the time comes, two stages of UMS v2,and then  release that at the same time,that way you will  have a full two months running start? No? its worth considering!!

Im trying  comfort & reassure  myself right now,with how well the new versions of the list below,that will work &  be included in UMS v2
specifically :
USLM upgrade - check
EHPRA upgrade - check
FRM upgrade - check
and DRS.as well..and how well these new upgraded version will really help to bring about,higher levels of income and opportunity as such.

Now, I feel like, how Catman felt when he thought yawl were gonna ditch DMSI!!  Argh!!
like I wasnt depressed enough before I read this,I was actually in the process of recovering from it,then I read this and now Im really depressed. damn. argh.
Getting into the Flow,in the Zone of Manifesting....getting quieter.... thats the work this day and week.....

The issue is, I cannot spend 2-3 months building one program and keep things going well right now.  We have to deal with some serious limitations on the back end that are really forcing my hand on a few things.  Every month, I must build at least one program that is something that will bring in income.

Unfortunately, building a six stage set in such an advanced technology level is very time consuming.  My plan was to build 1 stage and 1+ money makers per month.  But of course we know how plans go, right?  October I spent most of the month either unable to work, or working at the pace of a snail (thanks to MIRv3 allowing me to work while I am sick, which would not have been the case otherwise), and having to build and release a program I promised to give away for free upgrade.  

I am in the position of being forced to work on programs that don't make much money (SLM 4.2, DMSI) because I do what I say I will do, and then the unexpected stuff is killing my ability to stay on track.

You bring up excellent points, and reminded me why I was going to do a 6 stage set on UMS v2 in the first place.  But... next time, if I do a 6 stage set, I am not going to release it until all of the stages are finished.  That was a big mistake on my part, because of all the unexpected stuff.  Tomorrow I'm going to start working on Stage 4, but after that I have to start working on something to make money again.  Then I can work on Stage 5+.

The issue is that I am trying to do too many things at once, please too many people at once and stay on top of everything that is going wrong or dragging me down.  So as I said, you make a very good point and remind me why I was going to do UMS v2 in a 6 stage set, but if I do build it as a 6 stage set, I have to build all of it before I release it, and that will take 2-3 months at least, given that I also have to build and work on other stuff at the same time.
(11-01-2020, 11:20 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hey there, @Shannon.

Just have a few thoughts to present to you:

1. I believe you should hold off on DMSI, until you have the FRM for the affected figured out. That is arguably the most important piece of script for the whole program. If that doesn't work, then I don't see it very likely that results are to improve. Seems that needs to be the focus for now at least.

You might as well hold back until that's done. Especially since Bat and Pangolin DNA have insanely wrecked the whole world for now. Interactions with girls in DMSI-appropriate situations are exceedingly rare now. I mean, I haven't been in such a situation with a girl since February. It sucks and is boring to quite a degree, but it's reality.

Might as well use the downtime to improve the sub for when we rise from the ashes. That's the same reason I'm excavating with OF during this period, day 80 now. I'm debating on doing a journal of the experience...we'll see...

I was contemplating building what I could do now and leaving that for 3.4, but I think you're right.  It would be better to do that in 3.3.3, regardless of how long it takes, because it may take more than one try to get it right, and we are only doing 2 more free upgrades.

Quote:2. I was pleasantly surprised to see you talk about PE!!!! I was using it before I switched to OF 5.75G, again figuring it'd be perfect to do during this unique down time. Is there any chance of a creation of PE 5.75.3+G soon during this downtime? It'd be an incredibly easy sale for you to get some cash off it, no doubt. I wish I got more out of IYPS 4G than I did. A new version would be awesome to use during this to prepare for life after, depending on how long it drags on for. That would be an insta-buy. Just thinking of a win-win here, Shannon. Plus some experience with growing dense tissue, could be useful going forward as that requires quite a bit of power and I'm sure the tech and skeleton script would see large benefits.

I can build PE 5.75.xG now, or I can wait until I finish doing the R&D to know how to do it right.  I'm sure you'll understand why I haven't built it already.  But it's coming.  I just have to find the right phraseology and scripting for certain parts.  


Quote:3. For the FRM for the affected, have you considered using the Magnus Engine, to channel FRM in an accelerated form, specifically tailored to their fears of approaching men and sexual initiation? I don't know if you're merely doing it through an aura, so I wanted to suggest this idea. Because from what I see of the Magnus Engine, it acts like an accelerator for scripting. If the scripting for this is tight enough, it could quickly bust through the resistance required for the affected to create momentum for action. Just a thought.

Thank you for your time. Stay safe, Shannon.

I appreciate the idea.  The Magnus Engine doesn't work quite the way I would need it to for this to work in the manner you're thinking, though.  I need to basically get the user to execute FRM, and at the same time, get someone else to execute it just by being influenced by the user's aura... which is, as you might imagine, an order of magnitude more difficult than getting the user to execute it.  It would be unthinkable, if I did not have the script of FRM 4.9 finished.  I know I can do this, but it is on a level of complexity that is just crazy.  If I have enough time to contemplate it, I will find the solutions I need to make it happen, but it may require more than one try.

You stay safe as well, my friend.
(11-02-2020, 08:22 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]The thing that gets me with PE is that I think it should be combined with OED. Just train the soldier to stand up strong and stay at attention for as long as needed, deal with any GSF that's preventing this. Having just either one function seems lacking, and increasing both a bit would seem to directly add on top of each other. Maybe one deals with the other as well, but how to know which one to spend 8 months on? Running both is too much time invested into this one area, since there's other programs like LTU to run also.

Sure there could be other related titles, but IMO these two seems more like intertwined, and focus is a virtue.

Not everyone has ED.  Not everyone wants or needs to use OED.  The solution is to create PE, OED and a combination of the two.  Or just keep them as separate goals.  We will figure that out when the time comes.
(11-02-2020, 10:12 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-01-2020, 08:19 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon's quote": "In fact I have concluded that I cannot build UMS v2 as a multi-stage set because LTUv6 is taking so much time and work " -

Me:  What!!?? does that mean,are you saying " you can not build UMS v2,until you are finished with LTU v6 or at all as a 6 stage set?
I thought the flow was going to be: Finish building DMSI, and right afterwards, finish the next 4 stages of LTUv6 and then right on into UMS v2? is that not so? I hope you have a change of heart around this,before you get there( ready to up grade,build the new version of UMS v2!)

so were getting cheated out of  what could have been ,but LTUv6  isnt?

I'm slightly panicking right now....just a single stage ONLY? I thought you said it was too much to process as a single stage and therefore it brought up too much resistance and therefore has to be spread out,over 6 stages. that you wanted to be able to focus on one title at a time. please clarify and give some hope here. I've been waiting for this multi-stage set forever. thank you.
I Am truly afraid that it wont work as a single stage,like it did  the last time,like the out come was, last time!! (But that was before the new scripting,Platinum Lake Build,break thru's 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 & so on..... still concerned however. If you knew my circumstances you'd know why.

PS: after thought,how 'bout build,when the time comes, two stages of UMS v2,and then  release that at the same time,that way you will  have a full two months running start? No? its worth considering!!

Im trying  comfort & reassure  myself right now,with how well the new versions of the list below,that will work &  be included in UMS v2
specifically :
USLM upgrade - check
EHPRA upgrade - check
FRM upgrade - check
and DRS.as well..and how well these new upgraded version will really help to bring about,higher levels of income and opportunity as such.

Now, I feel like, how Catman felt when he thought yawl were gonna ditch DMSI!!  Argh!!
like I wasnt depressed enough before I read this,I was actually in the process of recovering from it,then I read this and now Im really depressed. damn. argh.
Getting into the Flow,in the Zone of Manifesting....getting quieter.... thats the work this day and week.....


 Part  II :  Forward thought on all of this,the next day,as in today Nov.2nd.
 Took a long long walk,took my all natural weight  loss capsules,my back pack,and umbrella and went for a long country walk, 4 miles round trip. went to the general store( this is the sticks,its like a Mall out here,one of the only games in town,unless ya wanna drive 30-35 plus miles to do so)
 I  know that my walk is to help me emotionally just as much,if not more,than the physical strides.
 Sooo while doing so I got some perspective on the whole 'scrapping of UMS v2  6 stage set", It came to me,
 If Shannon can put 12-to-15 titles into One synergistically aka LTU6 and make it work....then why could he not put the equivalent  into 1 stage program,as in 6 levels of stuff in to 1 stage... aka UMS v2?
 if that is the case when the time comes,we'll see,to me ,what ever the deal is, if its  like the guarantee's " 1 year  50,000 miles' your warranty is covered.
 Same difference with UMS v2...as long as we get 'there' and do our parts along the way...whats the dif' if its 6 stages + 1.
 I felt a bit better thinkin this way,Im still depressed about it though...not quite as much. its like having your vacation plans nixed,2 months ahead of time when you were REALLY lookin' forward to a  much needed Va-ca! I'd still love to see a 6 stage  UMS v2 set realized! least Im making progress.

We just need to let me finish dealing with everything else that needs to be built first and then I will find a solution.  Given your reminder that I was going to build it as a 6 stage set for a good reason, it seems most likely that that will be what I do - 6 stage set - but this time, I don't want to build it piecemeal, I want it finished before I offer it for sale.
(11-02-2020, 01:23 PM)samba99 Wrote: [ -> ]UMS instruction changed?
'' Use this program 2 loops per day for 3 days on and then take 5 days off.  Run all loops back to back to prevent breaking the Audio to Silence Ratio Balance (ASRB) and losing its benefits. ''


On the other hand, Shannon if you don't want to build a six stage sub at the moment, will you consider updating UMS to latest tech and release as single stage sub?

I adjusted the instructions for UMS because I concluded that this would be easier for people to understand, and they would likely get similar results from starting off there instead of working their way to it using the previous instructions.

The whole UMS thing was basically I was abandoning the idea of UMS v2 as a six stage set and making it as a single stage only.  But now I remember why I was going to build it as a six stage set, so it;s likely to be a six stage set at this point.  I just cannot allow myself to release it until it's finished this time.
(11-02-2020, 08:04 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2020, 08:22 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]The thing that gets me with PE is that I think it should be combined with OED. Just train the soldier to stand up strong and stay at attention for as long as needed, deal with any GSF that's preventing this. Having just either one function seems lacking, and increasing both a bit would seem to directly add on top of each other. Maybe one deals with the other as well, but how to know which one to spend 8 months on? Running both is too much time invested into this one area, since there's other programs like LTU to run also.

Sure there could be other related titles, but IMO these two seems more like intertwined, and focus is a virtue.

Not everyone has ED.  Not everyone wants or needs to use OED.  The solution is to create PE, OED and a combination of the two.  Or just keep them as separate goals.  We will figure that out when the time comes.

I think that the assumption used by LionKing behind his suggestion is that the OED program might contain suggestions improving erection quality that would be beneficial to all IYPS users even those who don't suffer from ED.

At least, this is how I have interpreted his idea... (or that is what I had in mind when I saw his post)

I have good erection but not like the painfully good ones that I might had in my teenage years. Scientific studies appear to demonstrate that prolonged 110% level erection have the capacity to increase size...

Or there is definitely a common core that could be shared between the 2 programs...
Dear Shannon,

You made a prediction earlier (somewhere on this forum) about the coronavirus and I recall you believed there would be 3 waves and that the second wave will be the worst, which seems to be correct now. So what do your models say about how the situation will be like in 2021/2022? I am curious.

Thanks.
(11-02-2020, 08:25 PM)lano1106 Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2020, 08:04 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-02-2020, 08:22 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]The thing that gets me with PE is that I think it should be combined with OED. Just train the soldier to stand up strong and stay at attention for as long as needed, deal with any GSF that's preventing this. Having just either one function seems lacking, and increasing both a bit would seem to directly add on top of each other. Maybe one deals with the other as well, but how to know which one to spend 8 months on? Running both is too much time invested into this one area, since there's other programs like LTU to run also.

Sure there could be other related titles, but IMO these two seems more like intertwined, and focus is a virtue.

Not everyone has ED.  Not everyone wants or needs to use OED.  The solution is to create PE, OED and a combination of the two.  Or just keep them as separate goals.  We will figure that out when the time comes.

I think that the assumption used by LionKing behind his suggestion is that the OED program might contain suggestions improving erection quality that would be beneficial to all IYPS users even those who don't suffer from ED.

At least, this is how I have interpreted his idea... (or that is what I had in mind when I saw his post)

I have good erection but not like the painfully good ones that I might had in my teenage years. Scientific studies appear to demonstrate that prolonged 110% level erection have the capacity to increase size...

Or there is definitely a common core that could be shared between the 2 programs...

Ahem.... uh, actually it was just me completely misunderstanding what was talked about. I thought it was OPE, as in lasting longer without holding back, and OED, as in max blood flow and zero hesitation, with reduced comeback time. Subliminal Viagra, Penile Mastery.

EDIT: PEnlargement and OED, yes I think the former could benefit from increased blood flow, and especially if that PE actuay succeeds, then you're gonna need more blood flow. OED being caused by something else, then yeah maybe not related.
Shannon's   response   on the building of UMS v2 down the road:
    "We just need to let me finish dealing with everything else that needs to be built first and then I will find a solution.  Given your reminder that I was going to build it as a 6 stage set for a good reason, it seems most likely that that will be what I do - 6 stage set - but this time, I don't want to build it piecemeal, I want it finished before I offer it for sale."

   My Response:
 First of all thank you! Thank you!!
 Secondly) Just the Fact that UMV is going to be 're-built' at all, is fantastic right there!!

 Thrirdly!)  IM relieved and that very much so,that  you've reconsidered The Building of UMS v2!!( Raises Cowboy Hat,wipes sweat from brow,with  brown leather work gloves,after shoeing  horses! - relieved) and I personally,wouldnt want you to release it piecemeal ,either Man. I'd love the whole set at once,once released. its in place and can just start the next cycle,as its time to do so,right there. so yeah I whole heartedly agree with you,about this and dont 'fault cha'!!

 Fourthly)  Even if its rebuilt or begun being scripted(new script)-& re-scripted( Old script adjustments,ect) re-building it and then built,in January,February, or March of 2021...then it will be ,at least that it is to come,though, and not scrapped all together!! SO Thank you for that,Man!

 I've got a LOT of pressure on me, too. I do understand,your need to balance,making money with other sub's to be released between now and 'then' as well  the need to finish what you've begun( LTU6,DMSI,ect) I get it Man.
 give yourself the space you need to do so,space to breath fully as such.
 Thank you for re-considering UMS v2 ,Shannon,in 6 stages + 1 . Quick Wink! Truly,appreciated.
 I slept better last night,when I read all the response's concerning this title. Whew!! "Ppreciate!
(11-03-2020, 05:08 AM)Lowe Wrote: [ -> ]Dear Shannon,

You made a prediction earlier (somewhere on this forum) about the coronavirus and I recall you believed there would be 3 waves and that the second wave will be the worst, which seems to be correct now. So what do your models say about how the situation will be like in 2021/2022? I am curious.

Thanks.

The models, in the last month, have been affected by some sort of variable that is creating a lot of instability and I have had to spend a LOT more time to get answers.  The answers I am getting recently are also much less stable than usual, meaning that there are currently many possibilities and probabilities converging with almost equal likelihood of coming to pass, which makes it necessary for me to revise forecasts much more frequently.  This is not unexpected, but it is annoying.  I just have to wait for the disruptive influence to end.

That said, I have not modeled the situation with the virus in a long time because of that.  But my best estimate - and take this with a large grain of salt, because it's just an educated guess - is that we will see the majority of issues concerning the second wave fade out between March and October of 2021, most likely March and June 2021.  I don't know if a third wave is still likely.  

2021 is definitely going to be interesting to behold.  So is 2022.  Looks like some history is going to be made during those years.
(11-01-2020, 08:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]As for it not being life changing, there are several situations in which it can be and will be life changing.  I will explain.

First, most people have never had an orgasm even close to their full potential for what kind of pleasure their body is capable of.  That happens because of a variety of factors, including learned guilt, shame, fear, faulty beliefs, not understanding their body well enough, not getting the right kind of stimulation, or stimulated in the right way or the right place, not having a partner who is willing to put in the full effort, not having a partner who understands where, with what and/or how to stimulate them properly and other factors as well.

The difference between what most people think is a "great orgasm" and what they are actually capable of is usually night and day.  Let me tell you, that alone is life changing to experience.  But when you add in what happens when you give your lover an orgasm like that, you're going to potentially change not only their life, but your entire relationship with them. 

You think maybe a married couple would benefit from using Orgasm Enhancer?  Maybe make their sex life better, with better and more frequent and enthusiastic sex?  Maybe make their relationship stronger?  You think it couldn't work like that for a boyfriend/girlfriend type relationship as well?  How do you think a Tinder date would go if you hit them with an orgasm that blows their head off like nobody else can?  Think maybe you'll have them "coming" back for more?  Maybe give you a reputation among their friends that gets you swamped in naughty bits?  Think maybe you could get a reputation for being the best lover they ever had?  That could go places.  Trust me.

What about those people whose primary language of love is sex?  Those people experience sex as a display of love, intimacy, bonding and trust.  Orgasm, to them, is the ultimate in "I love you."  You think maybe this wouldn't make their sex lives and relationships better?  That is pretty life changing.  

Good orgasms can mean the success or failure of a relationship.  Given the right type of relationship, that is potentially life changing.

And did you know that having an orgasm has effects on your mind, body and emotions?  They can be very beneficial, too.  Stress relief is a big one.  The better the orgasm, the better those effects.  Now what do you suppose would happen if you were to turn up the pleasure knob (no pun intended) to 10 or 11?  That can definitely be life changing.

If you want the price to be lower, then you're going to have to wait until 6G comes out, when 5.75.xG is eligible to go on sale.  If I'm still selling it.  And then you're going to have to hope the sale price is lower than $114.95 a copy, because the current price is being held below the real price for 5.75.xG as a courtesy to my customers while the pandemic is disrupting people's ability to make money.  When the pandemic is over, 5.75.xG is not going to be $114.95 a copy anymore.  It will go up significantly.  

But wait, you haven't even tried to use it yet!  You have no idea what it can do, or what value that gives.  

I don't price things based on what people think of a program they've never tried, or how many days it took me to build.  If I did, LTUv6 would be somewhere between $5,000 and $7,500 for a full copy, and several 5.75G titles would be single stage programs that cost several thousand dollars.  There's a reason I set a price standard according to what technology generation we are working with, instead of things like, "How many days did I spend developing and optimizing the key script?".  Pricing by generation gives us a standard, predictable price that doesn't undervalue or overvalue the whole technology generation because one program took me a day to script and another required 2 months to script.

Holy crap, if this thing works then it's honestly going into my library immediately. Jeez dude I wish this thing had been around when I was still in undergrad. Ok Shannon so once again you've got me on the edge of taking out my credit card BUT...I got questions:

1.) I'm currently able to give my GF multiple orgasms now with each one being at a different intensity based on positioning, emotional state, stimulation etc. So with OE each of those orgasms should (in theory, assuming proper usage) be maxed out at a 10 out of 10?

2.) I remember way back in the day you talked about how sex with your perfect lover caused orgasms that produced out of body experiences. Are those types of effects likely with spontaneous use or is this something we'd see after weeks or months of use?
(11-04-2020, 09:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-03-2020, 05:08 AM)Lowe Wrote: [ -> ]Dear Shannon,

You made a prediction earlier (somewhere on this forum) about the coronavirus and I recall you believed there would be 3 waves and that the second wave will be the worst, which seems to be correct now. So what do your models say about how the situation will be like in 2021/2022? I am curious.

Thanks.

The models, in the last month, have been affected by some sort of variable that is creating a lot of instability and I have had to spend a LOT more time to get answers.  The answers I am getting recently are also much less stable than usual, meaning that there are currently many possibilities and probabilities converging with almost equal likelihood of coming to pass, which makes it necessary for me to revise forecasts much more frequently.  This is not unexpected, but it is annoying.  I just have to wait for the disruptive influence to end.

That said, I have not modeled the situation with the virus in a long time because of that.  But my best estimate - and take this with a large grain of salt, because it's just an educated guess - is that we will see the majority of issues concerning the second wave fade out between March and October of 2021, most likely March and June 2021.  I don't know if a third wave is still likely.  

2021 is definitely going to be interesting to behold.  So is 2022.  Looks like some history is going to be made during those years.

Might that variable be related to the 2020 US election cycle and potential government policies?
(11-04-2020, 12:54 PM)apollolux Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-04-2020, 09:12 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(11-03-2020, 05:08 AM)Lowe Wrote: [ -> ]Dear Shannon,

You made a prediction earlier (somewhere on this forum) about the coronavirus and I recall you believed there would be 3 waves and that the second wave will be the worst, which seems to be correct now. So what do your models say about how the situation will be like in 2021/2022? I am curious.

Thanks.

The models, in the last month, have been affected by some sort of variable that is creating a lot of instability and I have had to spend a LOT more time to get answers.  The answers I am getting recently are also much less stable than usual, meaning that there are currently many possibilities and probabilities converging with almost equal likelihood of coming to pass, which makes it necessary for me to revise forecasts much more frequently.  This is not unexpected, but it is annoying.  I just have to wait for the disruptive influence to end.

That said, I have not modeled the situation with the virus in a long time because of that.  But my best estimate - and take this with a large grain of salt, because it's just an educated guess - is that we will see the majority of issues concerning the second wave fade out between March and October of 2021, most likely March and June 2021.  I don't know if a third wave is still likely.  

2021 is definitely going to be interesting to behold.  So is 2022.  Looks like some history is going to be made during those years.

Might that variable be related to the 2020 US election cycle and potential government policies?

4chan's chaos magic? Seriously though it depends if we're talking US or worldwide - I don't think US elections would make huge difference for other continents (I assume Canada and Mexico bordering US will have effect for them). There are other factors though, virus mutations and new strands might as an example.
Quote:it depends if we're talking US or worldwide - I don't think US elections would make huge difference for other continents (I assume Canada and Mexico bordering US will have effect for them). There are other factors though, virus mutations and new strands might as an example.
Nato, WHO, Paris accord, Iran, general approach to the E.U., the U.N. even... I am sure that the European continent is watching very closely. Then there’s the economy- U.S. economy heavily affects world economy. I’ll stop before it gets tagged as politics.

I agree with apollolux that the destabilizing variable must be the U.S. elections, which will heavily reflect on the way Covid is handled.
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