Subliminal Talk

edited. outta here!!

(07-08-2020, 04:51 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-08-2020, 03:04 PM)fab10 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-08-2020, 02:55 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Soooo LTU6  begin's  early next week or so....awe-----some!! yeah! Happy dance for those who have been waiting for this Band to come to town and get from row seat tickets!!  This also means, we will be that much closer to UMS2 being built afterwards...yeah..does Double Happy Dance!!  Ha!! The road to a thousand Miles begins with One step!! Ha!

   cheers,mates!!

I was also eagerly waiting for EPRHA or LTU, me happy. 
Unlike DRS, which made a huge, concrete difference in a matter of days, E3 is doing something for me but it isn’t really breaking through. I bet it would eventually make a difference after 6 or 12 months but a newer, more powerful version is most welcome.

Shannon, will I able to switch from E3 to E4 or LTU without a break in between?

DRS projects energy only. That is the easiest goal a subliminal can have. E3 is designed to work you through all the emotional healing and trauma you ever had. That would take 6+ months, and more than a year would be unsurprising.

Different goals have vastly different requirements and speeds of execution. Especially when, with E3, it's designed to go at your speed to prevent causing harm.

Apples to mangos, my friend.

You can switch without a break, but a break may be helpful.

Thank you for the detailed explanation. 
I want it to be clear that I am not at all disappointed in E3. Of course I was hoping in a “miraculous healing” but intellectually I am well aware that I have a lot of deep trauma to work through, which is why I had already made a hard commitment to at least six months, probably a year on that sub (except for upgrades.)
That said, given the track record of the last generation of subs, I am optimistic that E4 (whether stand-alone or included in LTU) will work faster and more efficiently.

(07-08-2020, 05:45 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-08-2020, 05:02 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-08-2020, 04:51 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-08-2020, 03:04 PM)fab10 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-08-2020, 02:55 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]Soooo LTU6  begin's  early next week or so....awe-----some!! yeah! Happy dance for those who have been waiting for this Band to come to town and get from row seat tickets!!  This also means, we will be that much closer to UMS2 being built afterwards...yeah..does Double Happy Dance!!  Ha!! The road to a thousand Miles begins with One step!! Ha!

   cheers,mates!!

I was also eagerly waiting for EPRHA or LTU, me happy. 
Unlike DRS, which made a huge, concrete difference in a matter of days, E3 is doing something for me but it isn’t really breaking through. I bet it would eventually make a difference after 6 or 12 months but a newer, more powerful version is most welcome.

Shannon, will I able to switch from E3 to E4 or LTU without a break in between?

DRS projects energy only. That is the easiest goal a subliminal can have. E3 is designed to work you through all the emotional healing and trauma you ever had. That would take 6+ months, and more than a year would be unsurprising.

Different goals have vastly different requirements and speeds of execution. Especially when, with E3, it's designed to go at your speed to prevent causing harm.

Apples to mangos, my friend.

You can switch without a break, but a break may be helpful.

@Shannon 

Are we close enough to E4 where I can take a break since I am running E3?

I don't know yet.  I doubt it will take me more than 3-4 weeks to finish upgrading LTU6, but I still have to finish building this program I'm working on right now.  I expected to get a lot further along than I did today.  So it's not going to be a bad thing if you take a break starting now, but don't expect E4 to be out in a very short amount of time.

The end of July marks the end of my first 3 month cycle on E3, maybe I should take a break from August 1st to the day E4 is published. I don’t want to take a break because I know there’s still a lot of work to do down there in my mind but the more I meditate on your advice the more I feel I need a break before the next round.

(07-09-2020, 02:51 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote: Please remember that the price is only $114.95 a copy for 5.75G because of the epidemic and it's side effects. That price is definitely going up. These programs are worth significantly more than that at this point.

Does Shannon know something we don’t know? Because from everything I hear and most people agree we’re going into a world Great Depression.  Or is Shannon saying he’s raising prices no matter what happens with the world?

$600 for the full set of LTU would be a sweet spot.  I don’t understand how Shannon doesn’t lower prices accordingly as new tech arises for example 5g 6 stagers are still $500.  Shouldn’t those be lowered in price to make way for the 5.75/6g sets? A $100 price increase for a 6 stager with the new tech from the $500 of the 5g 6 stage subs seems reasonable.

Shannon can set any price he wants but it doesn’t make sense to me to keep old subs at the same price when the tech is now old.

The age of the technology is irrelevant.  It is what it does and how well it works.  Even though AM6 and WM and the rest are from 2012, there is still little to no real competition in the world for achieving what they do.  That's because even though the technology is what we consider "old" at this point, it is still excellent compared to at least 99%+ of the competition, and holds its own against the rest.

You are paying for the value it brings, and the work, effort, time, energy, research, development, etc. it took to bring it to you.  This is not a car that depreciates in value every year simply because the year changed.  These are the most advanced subliminals in the world.

Whatever lowered price you will get will come from the change in policy that allows selling anything not the latest generation of technology during a sale.  Otherwise... that's the price.

@Shannon what could be the reason of having a difficult time on the days off and wanting to run the sub? Im now on day 4 of the asrb break and Im having positive effects, but want to run dmsi again. Is it fear? I had the same on ums and broke it at times, and now on DMSI im sticking to it as I want max results. But im still feel im sort of "waste time".

I really dont know where you @Shannon  get the time energy and will to explain the same thing with pricing over and over again to people who I think do not apreciate your work.

I understand you, and understand them, but there should be some respect towards your work and time, right?

That and similiar questions have already been answered on the forum not couple of times but dozen.

Before I ask something I do a search on the forum, cause the question I have, might already been answered somewhere, cause I have no time to waste  waiting for the answer and acordingly dont want to waste nobody's time either.

I dont understand how some persons expect from you to work faster, to make newer tech. and upgrade subliminals...when you constatntly have to answer questions that you already answered explaining things you already explained ecc...

One more regarding the pricing....people, I would like to buy the newest LTU, but it is more expensive for me than I can afford (I would need to save money, lets say 2 years to buy it)...right...did you people saw that somewhere on the forum I am begging Shannon that he lowers the price??

NO, you did not see that.

Why? 

First it is because i respect myself and my work and acording to that I respect other people and their work.

Second, I could buy the older LTU and still benefit.

Third, I am not a child, meaning I do not need to manipulate someone in order to get what I want.

And, you who must discus the price you should know that it is too early to discuss the price of a program that has not yet been made!!!!!
Plus you are slowing things down, let the man do his job!

I dont know what to think anymore when I read things here on the forum...are that Shannon competitors trolling around or what....

(On O.F. and a bit edgy lately cant keep my fingers from writing LOL)

(07-10-2020, 06:33 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon  what could be the reason of having a difficult time on the days off and wanting to run the sub? Im now on day 4 of the asrb break and Im having positive effects, but want to run dmsi again. Is it fear? I had the same on ums and broke it at times, and now on DMSI im sticking to it as I want max results. But im still feel im sort of "waste time".

If you feel a desire to run a program more than the instructions specify, go ahead and indulge that desire.  If it is 5.5G or later and has AutoConfig module, it may be directing you to use it more to deal with more resistance.  See what happens when you play it as much as your urges to tell you to play it.  

If that does not improve things after a few ASRB2 cycles, then re-assess.  But in many cases, the break needs to be adjusted for people when it is more than 3 days.  

If you have already done these things and it didn't work, you may be dealing with a conscious or subconscious fear that it won't work driving that desire to use it more.

Remember, the goal is to find the optimal usage patterns, which will be following the instructions for most people.  Using it more or less than that will not give optimal results.

(07-10-2020, 06:40 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]I really dont know where you @Shannon  get the time energy and will to explain the same thing with pricing over and over again to people who I think do not apreciate your work.

I understand you, and understand them, but there should be some respect towards your work and time, right?

That and similiar questions have already been answered on the forum not couple of times but dozen.

Before I ask something I do a search on the forum, cause the question I have, might already been answered somewhere, cause I have no time to waste  waiting for the answer and acordingly dont want to waste nobody's time either.

I dont understand how some persons expect from you to work faster, to make newer tech. and upgrade subliminals...when you constatntly have to answer questions that you already answered explaining things you already explained ecc...

One more regarding the pricing....people, I would like to buy the newest LTU, but it is more expensive for me than I can afford (I would need to save money, lets say 2 years to buy it)...right...did you people saw that somewhere on the forum I am begging Shannon that he lowers the price??

NO, you did not see that.

Why? 

First it is because i respect myself and my work and acording to that I respect other people and their work.

Second, I could buy the older LTU and still benefit.

Third, I am not a child, meaning I do not need to manipulate someone in order to get what I want.

And, you who must discus the price you should know that it is too early to discuss the price of a program that has not yet been made!!!!!
Plus you are slowing things down, let the man do his job!

I dont know what to think anymore when I read things here on the forum...are that Shannon competitors trolling around or what....

(On O.F. and a bit edgy lately cant keep my fingers from writing LOL)

Thank you.  

I have to answer all these things again and again because if I don't, people in the future will read these questions and see either no answer or "go look it up", and they won't look it up, and then they'll be influenced by the question, but not the answer.

(07-10-2020, 08:11 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2020, 06:33 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon  what could be the reason of having a difficult time on the days off and wanting to run the sub? Im now on day 4 of the asrb break and Im having positive effects, but want to run dmsi again. Is it fear? I had the same on ums and broke it at times, and now on DMSI im sticking to it as I want max results. But im still feel im sort of "waste time".

If you feel a desire to run a program more than the instructions specify, go ahead and indulge that desire.  If it is 5.5G or later and has AutoConfig module, it may be directing you to use it more to deal with more resistance.  See what happens when you play it as much as your urges to tell you to play it.  

If that does not improve things after a few ASRB2 cycles, then re-assess.  But in many cases, the break needs to be adjusted for people when it is more than 3 days.  

If you have already done these things and it didn't work, you may be dealing with a conscious or subconscious fear that it won't work driving that desire to use it more.

Remember, the goal is to find the optimal usage patterns, which will be following the instructions for most people.  Using it more or less than that will not give optimal results.

Does E3 have an AutoConfig module?

(07-10-2020, 08:11 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2020, 06:33 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon  what could be the reason of having a difficult time on the days off and wanting to run the sub? Im now on day 4 of the asrb break and Im having positive effects, but want to run dmsi again. Is it fear? I had the same on ums and broke it at times, and now on DMSI im sticking to it as I want max results. But im still feel im sort of "waste time".

If you feel a desire to run a program more than the instructions specify, go ahead and indulge that desire.  If it is 5.5G or later and has AutoConfig module, it may be directing you to use it more to deal with more resistance.  See what happens when you play it as much as your urges to tell you to play it.  

If that does not improve things after a few ASRB2 cycles, then re-assess.  But in many cases, the break needs to be adjusted for people when it is more than 3 days.  

If you have already done these things and it didn't work, you may be dealing with a conscious or subconscious fear that it won't work driving that desire to use it more.

Remember, the goal is to find the optimal usage patterns, which will be following the instructions for most people.  Using it more or less than that will not give optimal results.

Thank you. The part that I highlighed in bold seems to be the case. Inner confirmation. With UMS I did follow my urges, resulting in more and more, like craving crack-cocaine. Now FRM seems to hit on it. I theorized it was a attempt to not bloom due to fear. I'll get there. 

Alright thank you. I let it do its thing. Fear is an insidious piece of work.

(07-10-2020, 08:55 AM)fab10 Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2020, 08:11 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2020, 06:33 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon  what could be the reason of having a difficult time on the days off and wanting to run the sub? Im now on day 4 of the asrb break and Im having positive effects, but want to run dmsi again. Is it fear? I had the same on ums and broke it at times, and now on DMSI im sticking to it as I want max results. But im still feel im sort of "waste time".

If you feel a desire to run a program more than the instructions specify, go ahead and indulge that desire.  If it is 5.5G or later and has AutoConfig module, it may be directing you to use it more to deal with more resistance.  See what happens when you play it as much as your urges to tell you to play it.  

If that does not improve things after a few ASRB2 cycles, then re-assess.  But in many cases, the break needs to be adjusted for people when it is more than 3 days.  

If you have already done these things and it didn't work, you may be dealing with a conscious or subconscious fear that it won't work driving that desire to use it more.

Remember, the goal is to find the optimal usage patterns, which will be following the instructions for most people.  Using it more or less than that will not give optimal results.

Does E3 have an AutoConfig module?

Yes.  Most of the 5.5G and all 5.75G subs do.  They may not all have the same version, though.

(07-10-2020, 09:25 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2020, 08:11 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2020, 06:33 AM)Kol Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon  what could be the reason of having a difficult time on the days off and wanting to run the sub? Im now on day 4 of the asrb break and Im having positive effects, but want to run dmsi again. Is it fear? I had the same on ums and broke it at times, and now on DMSI im sticking to it as I want max results. But im still feel im sort of "waste time".

If you feel a desire to run a program more than the instructions specify, go ahead and indulge that desire.  If it is 5.5G or later and has AutoConfig module, it may be directing you to use it more to deal with more resistance.  See what happens when you play it as much as your urges to tell you to play it.  

If that does not improve things after a few ASRB2 cycles, then re-assess.  But in many cases, the break needs to be adjusted for people when it is more than 3 days.  

If you have already done these things and it didn't work, you may be dealing with a conscious or subconscious fear that it won't work driving that desire to use it more.

Remember, the goal is to find the optimal usage patterns, which will be following the instructions for most people.  Using it more or less than that will not give optimal results.

Thank you. The part that I highlighed in bold seems to be the case. Inner confirmation. With UMS I did follow my urges, resulting in more and more, like craving crack-cocaine. Now FRM seems to hit on it. I theorized it was a attempt to not bloom due to fear. I'll get there. 

Alright thank you. I let it do its thing. Fear is an insidious piece of work.

Fear is honestly one of the most brilliant pieces of work I have ever encountered.  It is incredibly insidious.

But this is why I suggest at least a couple ASRB2 cycles of instructions before you try something else.

(07-10-2020, 06:40 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]I really dont know where you @Shannon  get the time energy and will to explain the same thing with pricing over and over again to people who I think do not apreciate your work.

I understand you, and understand them, but there should be some respect towards your work and time, right?

That and similiar questions have already been answered on the forum not couple of times but dozen.

Before I ask something I do a search on the forum, cause the question I have, might already been answered somewhere, cause I have no time to waste  waiting for the answer and acordingly dont want to waste nobody's time either.

I dont understand how some persons expect from you to work faster, to make newer tech. and upgrade subliminals...when you constatntly have to answer questions that you already answered explaining things you already explained ecc...

One more regarding the pricing....people, I would like to buy the newest LTU, but it is more expensive for me than I can afford (I would need to save money, lets say 2 years to buy it)...right...did you people saw that somewhere on the forum I am begging Shannon that he lowers the price??

NO, you did not see that.

Why? 

First it is because i respect myself and my work and acording to that I respect other people and their work.

Second, I could buy the older LTU and still benefit.

Third, I am not a child, meaning I do not need to manipulate someone in order to get what I want.

And, you who must discus the price you should know that it is too early to discuss the price of a program that has not yet been made!!!!!
Plus you are slowing things down, let the man do his job!

I dont know what to think anymore when I read things here on the forum...are that Shannon competitors trolling around or what....

(On O.F. and a bit edgy lately cant keep my fingers from writing LOL)

 I Love it ! I Love it I Love I Love!!    As Jimi Hendrix once said 3 weeks before he left this world,at one of his concerts,in da middle of the night " Im glad yawl have patience man coz I shure dont". I Love what you wrote and the reason my last post from yesterday,was edited and I said I was outta here,coz something really ticked me off and I felt  I was gonna leave a blue streak of lightening  verbally,so I left. appreciate  today's renderings of yours.
 soo looking forward to LTU6 when it arrives,as well as UMS2..... saving my bucks and ready to rock n roll. diggin the ride.
 BTW : Shannon  if you see this...MY usage os DRS is regular,as in everyday at least one loop,since it is  everyday,with no days off,most days its 2 loops though and then  a 2 or 3 hour break,then I run USLM v3, IM seeing results now almost every day from this combo. its been a week or 8 days since I've begun this program of sorts. though chewed like to know. in short its working Yea!! again something to keep me busy til   UMS2,comes along down the road. thanks,feeling groovy and Shagadelic!! Ha!!! Oh Behave!! Ha!!

(07-10-2020, 11:30 AM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2020, 06:40 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]I really dont know where you @Shannon  get the time energy and will to explain the same thing with pricing over and over again to people who I think do not apreciate your work.

I understand you, and understand them, but there should be some respect towards your work and time, right?

That and similiar questions have already been answered on the forum not couple of times but dozen.

Before I ask something I do a search on the forum, cause the question I have, might already been answered somewhere, cause I have no time to waste  waiting for the answer and acordingly dont want to waste nobody's time either.

I dont understand how some persons expect from you to work faster, to make newer tech. and upgrade subliminals...when you constatntly have to answer questions that you already answered explaining things you already explained ecc...

One more regarding the pricing....people, I would like to buy the newest LTU, but it is more expensive for me than I can afford (I would need to save money, lets say 2 years to buy it)...right...did you people saw that somewhere on the forum I am begging Shannon that he lowers the price??

NO, you did not see that.

Why? 

First it is because i respect myself and my work and acording to that I respect other people and their work.

Second, I could buy the older LTU and still benefit.

Third, I am not a child, meaning I do not need to manipulate someone in order to get what I want.

And, you who must discus the price you should know that it is too early to discuss the price of a program that has not yet been made!!!!!
Plus you are slowing things down, let the man do his job!

I dont know what to think anymore when I read things here on the forum...are that Shannon competitors trolling around or what....

(On O.F. and a bit edgy lately cant keep my fingers from writing LOL)

 I Love it ! I Love it I Love I Love!!    As Jimi Hendrix once said 3 weeks before he left this world,at one of his concerts,in da middle of the night " Im glad yawl have patience man coz I shure dont". I Love what you wrote and the reason my last post from yesterday,was edited and I said I was outta here,coz something really ticked me off and I felt  I was gonna leave a blue streak of lightening  verbally,so I left. appreciate  today's renderings of yours.
 soo looking forward to LTU6 when it arrives,as well as UMS2..... saving my bucks and ready to rock n roll. diggin the ride.
 BTW : Shannon  if you see this...MY usage os DRS is regular,as in everyday at least one loop,since it is  everyday,with no days off,most days its 2 loops though and then  a 2 or 3 hour break,then I run USLM v3, IM seeing results now almost every day from this combo. its been a week or 8 days since I've begun this program of sorts. though chewed like to know. in short its working Yea!! again something to keep me busy til   UMS2,comes along down the road. thanks,feeling groovy and Shagadelic!! Ha!!! Oh Behave!! Ha!!

I'm with you. I started to respond to this myself but opted to stay out of it. 

Here's my take... and although my "status" suggests that I'm a newcomer, I've been using IML subs for  ~4 years now (Ben can verify). Shannon is selling a product where he openly admits (on his own forum btw) that he is continually at work attempting to develop technology to influence something we can't see, hear,  taste,  touch, etc. That's pretty damned difficult. But he keeps pushing forward. 

Then,  someone steps in asking for discounts... come on guys... if you want innovation, you have to fund the freaking work. We're on the cusp of things that have only been a available to very few people throughout recorded history. Is it perfect? No. Is Shannon attempting to make it the best it can be? Yep. 

This is his livelihood and he's even willing to share his own personal progress on a public forum. 

Sadly, the noise drowns out REAL cries for help and concerns that are actually valid  (Catman has valid arguments).

Shannon...believe it or not, some of us believe in what you're doing. Some of us are willing to accept that influencing consciousness itself is uncharted territory and we're willing to take part in this elaborate experiment. 

I'm writing all this because I know what it's like to challenge the status quo and be met with  statements that clearly show that your drive,  expertise,  and commitment are under appreciated. Please keep going. Know that you're making a difference.

Keep going.