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(06-05-2021, 08:33 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-05-2021, 08:13 AM)NOMAD Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-04-2021, 08:42 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Most people have relatively well developed empathy - the ability to feel other people's emotions at a distance.  That makes itself known by figuring out that around others, you tend to have your emotions shift, and it can be difficult to know whose emotions you are actually feeling.  I discovered this one day in 11th grade when I walked into math class feeling fine, and sat behind this outcast girl who was severely depressed.  Within 5 minutes I felt "grey", like graphite, depressed and hopeless.  It wasn't unfamiliar to me to be depressed, but I had never felt "grey" before.  And when she left, it went away.  I noted that I only felt like that around her and realized it must be her emotions.  Most of the time, people who are strongly empathic figure it out on their own, but it can be very confusing.

Mine developed pretty well at a very young age. It's part of why I often refer to the childhood version of me as a "sensitive" kid. On one hand, it feeds my intuition and helps me to read situations and people. On the other, being affected by the varying moods of different people is draining. I consider it a blessing and a curse (weighted mostly toward the latter). I imagine that further development of other psychic skills would come with similar tradeoffs.

A branch-off of DRS may be a practical "Psychic Self Defense" sub, where you develop the skills necessary to ward off the negative effects of other's energies/emotions/psychic attacks.  But perhaps DRS is already sufficient enough in that respect.

DRS was designed from the start with psychic assaults in mind.
Hi @Shannon

What would be the best relaxation sub that you would recommend?

Saw sleep magic but don't want to fall asleep just create a feeling of deep relaxation.

Currently using OF so want to make sure that use of a relaxation wouldn't affect OF.
(06-05-2021, 11:37 AM)Amann Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon

What would be the best relaxation sub that you would recommend?

Saw sleep magic but don't want to fall asleep just create a feeling of deep relaxation.

Currently using OF so want to make sure that use of a relaxation wouldn't affect OF.

If you are using OF, then you can't use any other subliminal with it.  That leaves you with BWE.

OFv3 has state shifting in it.  If you run BWE, the BWE may override the program's state shifting, or vice versa.

However, if you want to achieve deep relaxation, your best bet is going to be one of the states of awareness sets.  There's a simplified one, and one with a lot of different options.  If you use the BWE of Alpha, it will relax you without putting you to sleep.  Theta may or may not put you to sleep, and may make it impossible to focus, but it produces deeper relaxation.  Delta will almost assuredly put you to sleep, and produce the most profound relaxation.
(06-05-2021, 11:37 AM)Amann Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon

What would be the best relaxation sub that you would recommend?

Saw sleep magic but don't want to fall asleep just create a feeling of deep relaxation.

Currently using OF so want to make sure that use of a relaxation wouldn't affect OF.

 Amann....let me put my two cents in here  for a minute Beau'.  With LESS fear there WILL BE  more relaxation and far less tension.   were I in your shoes knowing what I know...this is what I'd recommend for me( Ha!) Run OFv3
sit back, DEEP breath.... do some nice slow full in hales exhales,all the while put on,run some rain storm sounds , youtube has tons of  video's that can run for 10 1/2 hours straight of deeply relaxing rain fall on a tin roof/ or stroms with thunder sounds, or distant train whistles/horns, fireplace crackling,etc... you know..get creative they have tons of these types of long running relaxing video's....mellow music too.
 so two plus two equals more than four in this case..... less fear,less tension,more ease of flow there ya go.
 it all starts with your intention to do so,to have so ,to be so.
 Peace be Wiff.
 Keith.
Good points, Keith.
(06-04-2021, 02:32 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The ability to "see the future" is known as prophecy when you are doing it visually and "prophetic whatever" when you do it through other senses.  It's not rare visually and empathically, but it's also not common either.  

Prophetic ability is definitely a can of worms, and here's why.  What you see is not guaranteed to happen.  It may either be the most likely future or the one your subconscious is most wanting or afraid of.  Now if it's the "most likely", but doesn't happen, then you're going to have people complaining that the sub doesn't work.  If you can't discern what you want vs what is most likely then you're going to be wrong a lot.  If you can't discern what you're afraid of vs what is most likely, then you're going to unconsciously steer things towards manifesting what you're afraid of, and make negative things tend to happen more.

Then we have to consider the potential consequences of having this ability be easily accessible to someone or a group or more than one group who wants to use it to control, manipulate, take advantage of, misuse, harm with it.  How do you prevent that?

It's not something I really think is wise for me to make...

Thanks @Shannonfor the response. This makes me think of something I heard before but didn't know if it were true. The idea is that the future is constantly in motion and not static. So you might get a vision of something that is most likely to happen but it doesn't end up for happen because of this. Would this idea be true? 

Also for your concerns would you be able to put safeties in place to make sure the power isn't misused or just used to harm? 

I did also think of one other thing though I wasn't sure if it was put under Psychic Phenomenon. Would you be able to make a sub that helps a person make a Tulpa? From my understanding of it the person has to consequently create the different individual in their mind. I wonder if with the subconscious you could speed up the process, make it better, and safer than an individual left to their own devices. I do wonder as wlell if making a general sub that commands the subconscious to make one according to the individuals conscience desires then would it be possible to have the sub command the subconscious to make one according to one's higherself or to represent the individuals deeps levels of the subconcious. I could see how this might help out so theirs more understanding of what's going on subconsciously. In the higherself example the person could actually have more an mentor to help guide them more. I do admit I would prefer the one that takes into consideration your conscious desires for more variety. 

Btw, I do apologize if the last topic broke any rules or anything. Wasn't sure if it does.
@Shannon a quick one. Its occurred to me that as we on OF3 adjust the days ON/OFF and perhaps loops too then will we need to perhaps later on also adjust volume levels and even formats (US to masked etc) with this level of tech or is it just the days on/off and maybe loops that is all that is needed? thanks
(06-05-2021, 05:12 PM)DarthXedonias Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-04-2021, 02:32 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The ability to "see the future" is known as prophecy when you are doing it visually and "prophetic whatever" when you do it through other senses.  It's not rare visually and empathically, but it's also not common either.  

Prophetic ability is definitely a can of worms, and here's why.  What you see is not guaranteed to happen.  It may either be the most likely future or the one your subconscious is most wanting or afraid of.  Now if it's the "most likely", but doesn't happen, then you're going to have people complaining that the sub doesn't work.  If you can't discern what you want vs what is most likely then you're going to be wrong a lot.  If you can't discern what you're afraid of vs what is most likely, then you're going to unconsciously steer things towards manifesting what you're afraid of, and make negative things tend to happen more.

Then we have to consider the potential consequences of having this ability be easily accessible to someone or a group or more than one group who wants to use it to control, manipulate, take advantage of, misuse, harm with it.  How do you prevent that?

It's not something I really think is wise for me to make...

Thanks @Shannonfor the response. This makes me think of something I heard before but didn't know if it were true. The idea is that the future is constantly in motion and not static. So you might get a vision of something that is most likely to happen but it doesn't end up for happen because of this. Would this idea be true? 

The "future" isn't any more the future than the present or past is.  As I have stated before, all of it is "now", being experienced in rapid sequence to prevent overloading the nervous system.  In order to keep you from losing your mind, it is very, very difficult to jump from one point of now to one that is not closely connected.  That's why the Twilight Zone type stuff is extremely rare.  But all points of now have a large number of possible outcomes leading from them.  Some are much more likely than others, and those that are more likely form what are called "probability lines", while those that are less likely form "possibility lines".  

All possible outcomes exist, and can be experienced.  The question is, how likely is each one?  The vast majority are extremely unlikely.  You're not going to be very likely to strip down and dance naked in the street while wearing your underwear on your head, for example, but it is possible.  That reality does exist.  You only experience it if that is what you focus your awareness into in the right ways to experience it.

There are a handful of probability lines at any given time, things that are likely to happen, but different.  I estimate that there are about 5 to 10 at any given moment, but I've seen cases of more and less.  These things are basically possibility lines that overlap so much that they're not just possible, they are probably going to happen because so many possibilities connect to them.  Probability lines are more stable than possibility lines, but they are all moving much like how a rivulet of water moves down a pane of glass as if it is a snake moving back and forth.  In a rivulet of water, the dynamic force of inertia and to some degree surface tension result in that movement; it is similar with probability lines, but is based on what we call "probability inertia".  In other words, what you are most likely to do is what you have done most before under those circumstances.

Every possibility and probability line has a chance of coming to pass as it is.  That chance depends on various factors in play, including karma, personality, your ability to see options, and the forces of chaos vs order influencing it.  But they all have a chance that is specific, although constantly changing.

If you have 5 probability lines you can end up on for the day, and they comprise 90% of all outcomes, you may have one that is 40% likely, one that is 20% likely, one that is 15% likely, one that is 10% likely and one that is 5% likely.  Now that 40% one is most likely, but it is still only a 40% chance, and the other possibility and probability lines add up to 60% likely.  So you may see the most likely outcome but it may not be the one that comes to pass.  

Indeed the future is fluid except for rare and very short periods of time known as "destiny nodes", which are periods of time that have all possibility and probability lines passing through a very narrow number of options as to what can happen.  For example, if you are destined to die in a car crash, then that's what will happen in all possibility lines and probability lines at that point in time.  So the answer to your question, by a circuitous route, is... yes.

Quote:Also for your concerns would you be able to put safeties in place to make sure the power isn't misused or just used to harm? 

If that were possible, I would not be concerned, would I?

Quote:I did also think of one other thing though I wasn't sure if it was put under Psychic Phenomenon. Would you be able to make a sub that helps a person make a Tulpa? From my understanding of it the person has to consequently create the different individual in their mind. I wonder if with the subconscious you could speed up the process, make it better, and safer than an individual left to their own devices. I do wonder as wlell if making a general sub that commands the subconscious to make one according to the individuals conscience desires then would it be possible to have the sub command the subconscious to make one according to one's higherself or to represent the individuals deeps levels of the subconcious. I could see how this might help out so theirs more understanding of what's going on subconsciously. In the higherself example the person could actually have more an mentor to help guide them more. I do admit I would prefer the one that takes into consideration your conscious desires for more variety. 

Btw, I do apologize if the last topic broke any rules or anything. Wasn't sure if it does.

That violates our rules against discussing magick.  But in the interest of safety, I will say that it would extremely unwise and dangerous to attempt to make or use such a subliminal.
(06-05-2021, 05:21 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon a quick one. Its occurred to me that as we on OF3 adjust the days ON/OFF and perhaps loops too then will we need to perhaps later on also adjust volume levels and even formats (US to masked etc) with this level of tech or is it just the days on/off and maybe loops that is all that is needed? thanks

We can cross that bridge if and when we come to it.
(06-05-2021, 04:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Good points, Keith.

 Thanks Shannon.... apprecaited.  its so clear to me,especially of late...just how much fear influences  our lives,affects our lives,our health,our outlook on life ,finances, and more.... to do or not do,out of fear..etc. it runs deep,so does the clearing,healing and freedom there of...... hoping that some of the  big chunks of fear wll be dealt with , even thru and with UMS v2,with FRM 5.0.
 I Know that FRM 5.0 in UMS v2 will be directed towards the goals of UMS v2 of course, how ever some of the side effects or 'run off' might ease the pain or remove some other fears along the way with as powerful as the new technology is and is coming along.
 Indeed we shall see. thank you again Shannon and for all your hard work. in this coming weekl,
I also hope the solution to this new moduel to help with off loading the configuration and move things along faster will come forth for ya...and then ,of course the script builds.
(06-05-2021, 06:37 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-05-2021, 04:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Good points, Keith.

 Thanks Shannon.... apprecaited.  its so clear to me,especially of late...just how much fear influences  our lives,affects our lives,our health,our outlook on life ,finances, and more.... to do or not do,out of fear..etc. it runs deep,so does the clearing,healing and freedom there of...... hoping that some of the  big chunks of fear wll be dealt with even thru and with UMS v2,with FRM 5.0.
 I Know that FRM 5.0 in UMS v2 will be directed towards to goals of UMS v2 of course,how ever some of the side effects or 'run off' may hel ease the pain or remove some other fears along the way with as powerful as the new technology is and is coming along.
 Indeed we shall see. thank again Shannon and for all your hard work. in this coming weekl,I also hope the solution to his new moduel to help with off loading the configuration and move things along faster will come forth for ya...and then ,of course the script builds.

I think I pretty much have the script either finished or very close for that new module.  Once it is, I just have to configure it for platinum lake and off we go for making the stage scripts.
(06-05-2021, 06:41 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-05-2021, 06:37 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-05-2021, 04:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Good points, Keith.

 Thanks Shannon.... apprecaited.  its so clear to me,especially of late...just how much fear influences  our lives,affects our lives,our health,our outlook on life ,finances, and more.... to do or not do,out of fear..etc. it runs deep,so does the clearing,healing and freedom there of...... hoping that some of the  big chunks of fear wll be dealt with even thru and with UMS v2,with FRM 5.0.
 I Know that FRM 5.0 in UMS v2 will be directed towards to goals of UMS v2 of course,how ever some of the side effects or 'run off' may hel ease the pain or remove some other fears along the way with as powerful as the new technology is and is coming along.
 Indeed we shall see. thank again Shannon and for all your hard work. in this coming weekl,I also hope the solution to his new moduel to help with off loading the configuration and move things along faster will come forth for ya...and then ,of course the script builds.

I think I pretty much have the script either finished or very close for that new module.  Once it is, I just have to configure it for platinum lake and off we go for making the stage scripts.



 Good news !! Awesome.
Wondering how the "adjust one variable at a time" plays into increasing the number of loops (something that I might consider after one month of playing (or more)) for OF3.

I'm currently at 3 days on, 2 days off. Would it be 2 loops one day, 1 loop x 2 days, 2 days off? Then increase 2 loops x 2 days, 1 loop x 1 day, 2 days off on the next set of loops? Of can all of them get increased at one time?
(06-05-2021, 07:49 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]Wondering how the "adjust one variable at a time" plays into increasing the number of loops (something that I might consider after one month of playing (or more)) for OF3.

I'm currently at 3 days on, 2 days off. Would it be 2 loops one day, 1 loop x 2 days, 2 days off? Then increase 2 loops x 2 days, 1 loop x 1 day, 2 days off on the next set of loops? Of can all of them get increased at one time?

If you increase one loop at a time, then it applies to all days on.  So it would go from 2 days on, 1 loop per day, to 2 days on, 2 loops per day.
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