Subliminal Talk

(05-28-2021, 07:12 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-28-2021, 07:05 PM)Qiel Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-28-2021, 06:54 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-28-2021, 04:08 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-27-2021, 07:47 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon You made a deal with me when I was on OF v2. That was that once I gave it the full 8months that you would then make UMOP3 for me.

Now im on OF 3 and more than happy to give it the full 6months as im at uni until december and then I finish pretty much forever. So would you be kind enough to do me a similar deal of a sub whether that be UMOP 3 or MLS or another that you and I work out would be best for me at that time and make it with the latest tech available at that time?

I say a sub that you and I work out as being best for me as after uni then my priorities may change though to still overcoming fear and procrastination perhaps but since ill be job hunting and then working in a high stressed industry where learning information on the job and away from it is crucial - coupled with the need to obtain success as quickly as possible - then it may be you may suggest a sub I have never tried before.

Thanks

All of your issues stem from fear.  Deal with that, and you won't need UMOP.  If you can use OFv3 for six months and not get results, making UMOP won't even matter, because you'll have proven that you can and will defeat my subs no matter what I do.  So you execute OF v3, and then we'll talk.  Remember that as far I know, you've found some way to weasel out of, self deceive, avoid, sabotage or otherwise escape everything you've ever used that I created, which makes me wonder why you keep buying and using my subs.  Also remember that if I had been operating in 5.75.6G or earlier, upgrading OFv2 to OFv3 would have required 3-4 days.  It took a month.  I'm already backlogged months and that's just the 3 subs I have on deck.  So I can't be making deals like this, especially when it's worth betting on that you're not going to execute.  Like I said, you execute OFv3 and then we can talk.

Thanks Man ok lets wait and see. In answer to your question the reason I still bought and used your sub partially has to be thanks to @CatMan After OF 2 I thought there would be no more OF coming until the release of 6G so I resigned to my fate that no need to purchase any more subs but catmans involvement and your agreeing has allowed OF 3 to happen.

Second reason is because I rather spend money in the hope I get success either from the sub or from data I can share to help me in a future program so why not.

Third I do believe you can crack the code and make me execute. You manage to come up with new ways of trying to get more to execute so whether that means you need to listen more to a sub such as UMS to help you or you just need to get more steak I dont know but im sure you will have me execute cos for you to have me not execute will probably annoy you as much as it annoys me lol

Fourthly FRM 5.0 is what happened to OF 2 as well as other things to become OF 3 so why not test and see if the sub really is more effective or not.

that aside I do have a question. Does caffeine affect the sub? I hardly drink water im mostly drinking caffeine pop/soda/soft drinks such as coca cola without sugar or english tea be it normal or decaf (which still has traces of caffeine). Could this be affecting my reasons for not executing in the past perhaps?

Shannon said in his journal, "MLS 5.75.5G and OFv3 have the chemical state shift override module turned OFF, as indicated by the models." So caffeine is okay for MLS 5.75.7G and OF v3.

Qiel thank you ok phew so I can carry on being a fool and enjoying unhealthy caffeinated pop/soft drinks for now without concern.

I feel you, Jake. It's not just you. Me, you, Shannon, are megadose in caffeine few days lately.

(05-28-2021, 07:21 PM)Qiel Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-28-2021, 07:12 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-28-2021, 07:05 PM)Qiel Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-28-2021, 06:54 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-28-2021, 04:08 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]All of your issues stem from fear.  Deal with that, and you won't need UMOP.  If you can use OFv3 for six months and not get results, making UMOP won't even matter, because you'll have proven that you can and will defeat my subs no matter what I do.  So you execute OF v3, and then we'll talk.  Remember that as far I know, you've found some way to weasel out of, self deceive, avoid, sabotage or otherwise escape everything you've ever used that I created, which makes me wonder why you keep buying and using my subs.  Also remember that if I had been operating in 5.75.6G or earlier, upgrading OFv2 to OFv3 would have required 3-4 days.  It took a month.  I'm already backlogged months and that's just the 3 subs I have on deck.  So I can't be making deals like this, especially when it's worth betting on that you're not going to execute.  Like I said, you execute OFv3 and then we can talk.

Thanks Man ok lets wait and see. In answer to your question the reason I still bought and used your sub partially has to be thanks to @CatMan After OF 2 I thought there would be no more OF coming until the release of 6G so I resigned to my fate that no need to purchase any more subs but catmans involvement and your agreeing has allowed OF 3 to happen.

Second reason is because I rather spend money in the hope I get success either from the sub or from data I can share to help me in a future program so why not.

Third I do believe you can crack the code and make me execute. You manage to come up with new ways of trying to get more to execute so whether that means you need to listen more to a sub such as UMS to help you or you just need to get more steak I dont know but im sure you will have me execute cos for you to have me not execute will probably annoy you as much as it annoys me lol

Fourthly FRM 5.0 is what happened to OF 2 as well as other things to become OF 3 so why not test and see if the sub really is more effective or not.

that aside I do have a question. Does caffeine affect the sub? I hardly drink water im mostly drinking caffeine pop/soda/soft drinks such as coca cola without sugar or english tea be it normal or decaf (which still has traces of caffeine). Could this be affecting my reasons for not executing in the past perhaps?

Shannon said in his journal, "MLS 5.75.5G and OFv3 have the chemical state shift override module turned OFF, as indicated by the models." So caffeine is okay for MLS 5.75.7G and OF v3.

Qiel thank you ok phew so I can carry on being a fool and enjoying unhealthy caffeinated pop/soft drinks for now without concern.

I feel you, Jake. It's not just you. Me, you, Shannon, are megadose in caffeine few days lately.

yeah in my case its been years but gotta try that thing called water....apparently its all the rage these days lol

@Shannon
Two questions:
1) Will UMS2 have money manifestations like UMS1 did? I remember the description for UMS1 having it but I did not see it in the new UMS2 description.

2) Will you publish AYP/MYP titles with the newest technology that has 1 loop per day and all the tech/power from the newest titles? whether now or in 6g? Would it be possible to shorten the length of the sub run from 6-8 months to 4 months or less?

I ask because I will buy them if you do publish them with 5.75.7's tech (I'm not asking for them to be built now, I'm only inquiring).

(05-27-2021, 07:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The desire to experience more input comes from the module I created that attempts to get the ultimate authority on how to configure your usage of the program to achieve the goals - your subconscious awareness - to guide you to the right amount of loops, days on, days off, for you.  It has been difficult to get working, but it seems to be more prominent in 5.75.7G.

Hello Shannon, Im reaching day 14 of OF V3 and feel the need of more listening time, should I raise it progressively (1 loop at a time per cycle), or should I directly go to what Im thinking would be best ?

Delegating the decision of how much to listen to the subconcious mind, Isn't this prone to fuck us over, if the subconcious really doesn't want to change and wants to sabotage our efforts ?

The effects I've noticed so far have been sleepy/yawning while listening, and better sleep after the 1 loop. And also slightly more free to do what I need to do, a little less procastination, but this is still very early and have a lot to improve still

My country went again into strict quarantine so I've not been out of my house a lot, so social anxiety and the likes have not been triggered to know if there are improvements.

(05-28-2021, 05:34 PM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-28-2021, 11:42 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-28-2021, 09:56 AM)rarus426 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

I will finish my education by around May 2022 ( It can be 2-3 months before or after). So, I will be actively looking for jobs starting January 2022. Do you think UMS V2 can help me find my dream job role possibly in my dream company and becoming incredibly successful in that role? If so, when do you suggest starting this sub (as it is 4 stage sub)? I am currently on 8th cycle of MLS 4.0. Thank you.

UMS v2 can potentially help you find jobs, but it's goal is to set you on the best path to achieving ultimate monetary success.  While you may not be thinking along these lines, I have noticed that most people who respond by executing UMS v1 do so by seeking not to find a job, but to find something they can do on their own to achieve the program's goals, because "a job" is too limiting.  For example, you might start trading stocks or crypto; you might start a business; you might start publishing e-books that are in high demand; and so forth.  UMS is generally going to lead most people to a much more ambitious end goal that is possible to achieve through "a job".  

If you decide you want to use it, you'll need 2 to 4 weeks off from MLS.

@Shannon 

Will UMS 2.0 be like UMS 1.0 in that you consciously set the goal of what you want to achieve?

With v2, you can consciously set a goal, but that is going to be secondary in impact to what is being done subconsciously, and may be over-ridden completely if it is distracting to the goals your subconscious sets.  You will need to trust the program, and what your subconscious chooses as a result of using it.

(05-29-2021, 06:54 AM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ]Delegating the decision of how much to listen to the subconcious mind, Isn't this prone to fuck us over, if the subconcious really doesn't want to change and wants to sabotage our efforts ? 

I remember Shannon once saying that if you feel the urge to listen more after a couple of ASRB2 cycles, that’s likely to be the auto-config kicking in and giving you directions. If you feel the urge to listen less, however, that could be your subconscious trying to fuck you over (i.e. resistance.)

(05-28-2021, 06:54 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-28-2021, 04:08 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-27-2021, 07:47 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon You made a deal with me when I was on OF v2. That was that once I gave it the full 8months that you would then make UMOP3 for me.

Now im on OF 3 and more than happy to give it the full 6months as im at uni until december and then I finish pretty much forever. So would you be kind enough to do me a similar deal of a sub whether that be UMOP 3 or MLS or another that you and I work out would be best for me at that time and make it with the latest tech available at that time?

I say a sub that you and I work out as being best for me as after uni then my priorities may change though to still overcoming fear and procrastination perhaps but since ill be job hunting and then working in a high stressed industry where learning information on the job and away from it is crucial - coupled with the need to obtain success as quickly as possible - then it may be you may suggest a sub I have never tried before.

Thanks

All of your issues stem from fear.  Deal with that, and you won't need UMOP.  If you can use OFv3 for six months and not get results, making UMOP won't even matter, because you'll have proven that you can and will defeat my subs no matter what I do.  So you execute OF v3, and then we'll talk.  Remember that as far I know, you've found some way to weasel out of, self deceive, avoid, sabotage or otherwise escape everything you've ever used that I created, which makes me wonder why you keep buying and using my subs.  Also remember that if I had been operating in 5.75.6G or earlier, upgrading OFv2 to OFv3 would have required 3-4 days.  It took a month.  I'm already backlogged months and that's just the 3 subs I have on deck.  So I can't be making deals like this, especially when it's worth betting on that you're not going to execute.  Like I said, you execute OFv3 and then we can talk.

Thanks Man ok lets wait and see. In answer to your question the reason I still bought and used your sub partially has to be thanks to @CatMan After OF 2 I thought there would be no more OF coming until the release of 6G so I resigned to my fate that no need to purchase any more subs but catmans involvement and your agreeing has allowed OF 3 to happen.

Second reason is because I rather spend money in the hope I get success either from the sub or from data I can share to help me in a future program so why not.

Third I do believe you can crack the code and make me execute. You manage to come up with new ways of trying to get more to execute so whether that means you need to listen more to a sub such as UMS to help you or you just need to get more steak I dont know but im sure you will have me execute cos for you to have me not execute will probably annoy you as much as it annoys me lol

Fourthly FRM 5.0 is what happened to OF 2 as well as other things to become OF 3 so why not test and see if the sub really is more effective or not.

that aside I do have a question. Does caffeine affect the sub? I hardly drink water im mostly drinking caffeine pop/soda/soft drinks such as coca cola without sugar or english tea be it normal or decaf (which still has traces of caffeine). Could this be affecting my reasons for not executing in the past perhaps?

Jake I have nothing against you personally, but to be frank, you piss me off.  Now I have other customers who piss me off for similar reasons, and I grit my teeth and bear it because it can be good for developing the subs.  But in your case, you seem to be the most extreme example I have ever seen of a specific type of resistance that I may never have a solution to.  And that frustrates me to no end.

I of course want all of my customers to succeed, but with 5.75.7G we are close to finished with 6G and if this doesn't work for you, there's nothing left I can do.  The changes coming in 6G will probably not involve more power.  They will probably be refinements from here on out.

So at this point, your best hope is that you find the right usage pattern for OFv3.  You may need more loops per day, fewer days off, more days on, or some combination of these.  I am relatively confident that something like that will break through and I'm seeing hints that it's already breaking through, but I don't follow you too closely because the resistance you've always shown in the past frustrates me so much.

I want to help you, but at the same time, I am writing a list of instructions.  Very advanced, complex and intricate instructions, but they're just instructions.  And if you, whatever level of you, doesn't choose to execute them, then eventually there will be nothing left for me to do.  We are not far from that point.

I don't want you spending money again and again on things that don't get you results.  Some of my customers do that, and while it's more money in my pocket, it's very frustrating for me because I want you guys to get what you paid for.

I also don't want you filling the forum with "Shannon's subs do jack schitt for me" because you represent 1 in a million or less, and yet because most people who get results don't post here, it makes it look like those of you who come here asking for help or having a problem are in the majority, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.  The forum is advertising for us, and this sort of misunderstanding really degrades our sales, which reduces our income, which lowers our R&D budget, which slows down R&D, which makes everything worse.  So of course I want you to succeed, but if nothing I do works for you, I also don't want people to think you're a typical case instead of the incredibly rare bonehead you are.

Before this version came out, I had written you off.  The models kept telling me that there was going to be a big jump in power before 6G came out, and it seems to have happened with 5.75.7G, so given what I have seen so far I think it's still a reasonable bet that this will work for you.  We just have to find the right exposure levels and timings, and that I don't have a problem helping you with.  But one of the biggest issues you have, I think, is that you don't want the goal, you don't want it enough, you don't want to take enough responsibility for your choices, and you want to have something to fall back on to blame for not being where you want to be.  In other words, if I give you a grocery list and 100 times you go to the store, buy nothing and come back empty handed, eventually I am going to stop doing that.  

That means that it's time to "shit or get off the pot", as mom used to say.  I'm always glad to help my customers, but I also don't have time to waste while people play games trying to avoid achieving, and dance around the goal.  If that happens too much or too long, sooner or later I'm going to have to say, "It's time for you to find something else that works better for you," and send you on your way.

I really don't want to do that, partly because I want you to succeed, and partly because finally breaking through would be a win-win for us both.  But if in the end my best isn't good enough... I'm going to have to send you on your way to find something that does work for you. 

OFv3 does not have state shift override active, but state shifting caused by drugs will still have effects.  I wonder if perhaps you don't use caffeine, etc. to avoid sleep so you can always be tired and have an excuse to avoid doing things you want with tiredness and sleep schedule as your excuse.

(05-28-2021, 08:30 PM)Dilettante Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
Two questions:
1) Will UMS2 have money manifestations like UMS1 did? I remember the description for UMS1 having it but I did not see it in the new UMS2 description.

UMS v2 is UMS v1, but upgraded, optimized and empowered.  The only things I removed from the key script were a few minor modules that, after optimization, were either redundant or unnecessary.

Quote:2) Will you publish AYP/MYP titles with the newest technology that has 1 loop per day and all the tech/power from the newest titles? whether now or in 6g?  Would it be possible to shorten the length of the sub run from 6-8 months to 4 months or less?  

I ask because I will buy them if you do publish them with 5.75.7's tech (I'm not asking for them to be built now, I'm only inquiring).

The future of manifestation titles will be MYP programs.  We will be doing that.  However, right now is not the time to focus on that.

As for how long it takes to run such a sub and achieve the goals, that depends on you.  I won't know how long it takes on average until the programs are built and I can run such a specific example through the models.  I'm aiming for manifestations in 6 months or less, preferably 2-3 months, but that's a goal, not a certainty.

(05-29-2021, 06:54 AM)ImFreeman Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-27-2021, 07:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The desire to experience more input comes from the module I created that attempts to get the ultimate authority on how to configure your usage of the program to achieve the goals - your subconscious awareness - to guide you to the right amount of loops, days on, days off, for you.  It has been difficult to get working, but it seems to be more prominent in 5.75.7G.

Hello Shannon, Im reaching day 14 of OF V3 and feel the need of more listening time, should I raise it progressively (1 loop at a time per cycle), or should I directly go to what Im thinking would be best ?

If you feel like 3 days of rest works well for keeping you from exhaustion, then add a loop per day on for an ASRB2 cycle and see how you feel then.  If you feel like 3 days of bloom is too much, then instead of adding a loop, reduce your days off by one per ASRB2 cycle until you find the sweet spot.  If you have a specific urge to do something, follow that urge instead.  That should be the AutoConfig module executing, and it should take priority unless you have an urge to do suspiciously less exposure, which may be an attempt at sabotage.

Quote:Delegating the decision of how much to listen to the subconcious mind, Isn't this prone to fuck us over, if the subconcious really doesn't want to change and wants to sabotage our efforts ?

If the resistant parts dominate, then they will try to sabotage.  However, sabotage is going to involve doing things to prevent the program from being able to achieve its goals, which are typically relatively obvious: significantly less exposure, significantly lower volumes, headaches, excuses why you should switch to something else, the usual BS etc.  

If the cooperative subconscious is in control, then it will be executing the AutoConfig module and that is going to be obvious because it will either be asking for more exposure or a different listening pattern that is at least as much exposure, but in a different rhythm.

Quote:The effects I've noticed so far have been sleepy/yawning while listening, and better sleep after the 1 loop. And also slightly more free to do what I need to do, a little less procastination, but this is still very early and have a lot to improve still

My country went again into strict quarantine so I've not been out of my house a lot, so social anxiety and the likes have not been triggered to know if there are improvements.

That sounds like progress to me.

@Jake2015 It might be wishful thinking but I have seen hints that you are executing this time. I have also seen that you’re still trying to find ways to sabotage yourself again, but much less than you did before. You are breaking through, just don’t overthink it and let it happen. And please give me permission to kick your ass next time you come up with a way to sabotage your progress .

Hmm.. Ive genuinely misread the instruction to OFv3. I thought it was 2 loops per day on rather than 1. No idea how I got that wrong..

Im using masked format and currently on third cycle and I feel fine. Would you suggest I start over with 1 loop per day on? I dont really feel I need to but thought I should ask since its new tech and all

If you're getting good results, I would say stick with it. Shannon has mentioned that some people may require more loops then others, and some people may be better with 1 loops. Ect.

(05-29-2021, 10:36 AM)callie Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm.. Ive genuinely misread the instruction to OFv3. I thought it was 2 loops per day on rather than 1. No idea how I got that wrong..

Im using masked format and currently on third cycle and I feel fine. Would you suggest I start over with 1 loop per day on? I dont really feel I need to but thought I should ask since its new tech and all

(05-29-2021, 10:36 AM)callie Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm.. Ive genuinely misread the instruction to OFv3. I thought it was 2 loops per day on rather than 1. No idea how I got that wrong..

Im using masked format and currently on third cycle and I feel fine. Would you suggest I start over with 1 loop per day on? I dont really feel I need to but thought I should ask since its new tech and all

What sort of results have you gotten so far?

Fairly good. I sleep better which is a huge plus. Im also happier and more optimistic in general. No major fear has been adressed, but its not expected since im still only one and a half week in.