(06-18-2021, 05:17 AM)MegaMan Wrote: [ -> ] (06-18-2021, 02:47 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]FRM 5.0 is having effects, yes. Early days yet, which is even more encouraging.
I was referring to IYPS. But, I remember your post about Grow Taller and how you had doubts it can work with current technology. If there's sufficient interest, up to you about whether to produce it before 6G, I guess. Would perhaps be an intriguing benchmark test as well as IYPS, to show progress possibly if nothing else.
Could you please elaborate on what IYPS is? I didn't find it in the glossary. Thanks.
Increase Your P*nis Size. It's one of the physical growth products, along side Grow Taller, Bre*st Enlargement, etc.
It's unclear if a physical growth/change sub can work until 6G. Seems to be some interest in developing one, I think it's probably premature. But, up to Shannon if he decides to test it and we can get a barometer for progress where we are currently in development.
I think that fills in the blanks for you.
Just a few questions concerning UMS V2:
1. How long is this intro price going to be for?
2. I assume the sub is designed for 3 months usage, right?
3. Does it specifically deal with procrastination in line with the goal? I've had success there with OF V3 alone, so more would be awesome. Just any info on what programs are in it, scripting goals etc. Possibly that will be made once it's done, just saying it'd be nice to know beforehand, haha.
Thanks, seems like it'll be an interesting program!
(06-17-2021, 11:15 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ] (06-17-2021, 01:14 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (06-17-2021, 12:30 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (06-17-2021, 10:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (06-17-2021, 09:53 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]I still am confused as to how that can work. I think you said once that a pic of a girl you like, is enough to trigger the program somehow? Maybe you did, it was forever it seems now. This seems so fantastical to me.
Whenever this program gets released, and we're out of this situation we're all in, I look forward to testing this sub out and hopefully finally seeing what it is capable of.
Today, I'm getting my second dose. Small step towards normalcy again, I suppose.
It can work because the way reality works is that the space-time thing is an illusion. It is possible to connect to anyone anywhere on the planet through thought energy or emotions and not only do so and do so instantly but communicate in real "time" instantly once you have.
Seeing an image of someone can focus you on that person and act as the focus key for making that connection the same as if you saw them in person.
Distance does not really exist. All of this time-space crap is the interpretation of the physical nervous system based on its limits. "Modern science" has discovered some of the tells for this but doesn't yet realize what they are because they still think space-time is real.
That's how and why it can work.
Even if it is someone you don't have any rapport with currently or even know? I think it's something I'd need to see to believe, either way. Overall, the program is such a polar opposite extreme from where I am now with women, so it's hard to conceptualise such a thing as above from this point with women.
Yes, even then. I don't blame you for being skeptical of it. It's pretty unusual for people to be able to experience it on a conscious level in general. I've been able to do it many times, even when the person was literally in Australia while I was in Florida. If I can connect to a person emotionally - which seems to require the right kind of personality for success, and is relatively rare in general - I am able to read their emotional state as if I am feeling it as my own emotions, and I can on occasion also change their emotional state. I have that sort of relationship with my GF, I can sometimes feel her emotions as my own sometimes. I'm not so good at altering her emotional state through my emotions, though, since she seems to be a much stronger emotional projector than I am. But I have seen this for myself and other people enough times to know without a doubt that it happens and is possible. In rare cases, I have (years ago, when meeting strangers on the Internet was relatively safe) met women online and connected with them so strongly that I was able to tell them things about themselves that they'd never told anyone else in their entire lives.
But in your case, you use skepticism to fight the program, and I think at this point you have to know that. So logically, working against that skepticism might be a good thing for you.
Quote:We'll see when V3.4 comes out, and some degree of normalcy occurs for us all to allow an environment to test. Then again, maybe that isn't needed with this new revelation of what it can do. So, would I just need to look at a pic for example? Or some kind of focus etc.? Then they would contact me or seek me out somehow? If so, how does the person who doesn't know me yet accomplish this if they don't have contact info?
I mean, I want to believe, but I'm trying to wrap my head around the logistics of such a thing.
If you use DMSI - even the current version - you can focus on a visual image of a person and connect to them this way, and affect them as if they are in the same room you are. The requirements are that you have to execute the script; you have to be in a position where there are not other people you're very attracted to close enough to drain you of the energy necessary to do this (about 200 feet); and they must be extremely attractive to you sexually. If you will recall, we have had some people report this sort of thing where people from a long distance reacted to them using the program.
It should be better in 3.4, but before you can do anything, you have to execute. It does not and never did require "belief". Only execution. And that is your particular downfall. We shall see how FRM 5.0 works for you in that regard.
A person who doesn't know your contact info can't do anything about their attraction unless they have a way to locate you through the energy link, but I'm not sure that's possible.
Quote:P.S. Grow Taller sounds intriguing, I wrote it off until 6G due to your post awhile ago about it when someone asked. I'm sure that'd sell, just not sure if a physical sub would work now. I know a physical sub as well that could be made also and would sell well...lol 
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I'm not convinced until I see it with my own eyes that a Grow Taller sub will ever be able to ignore fused growth plates in the bones. We shall see. That aside, are you referring to OED or IER?
Based on the above @Shannon:
1) Do the subs work even if a person is skeptic?
It doesn't matter if you are a skeptic. It matters if you are a skeptic based in fear. Real skepticism is based in a desire to know the truth, but does not involve fear. The other kind of skepticism is basically being afraid of what is being considered, for some reason. In other words, if you are sufficiently AFRAID of achieving the program goal, and you manifest that fear in the form of skepticism, it can be a useful way to self sabotage. But it still boils down to fear.
Quote:2) regarding DMSI working on someone with a mask on thank you for replying. Regarding working on someone not even in the same location or simply from a picture/photo. So what if that person is a celebrity that I and lets say 100 other DMSI uses always get attracted to whenever we see her photo/movie etc wont this counter everyones DMSI as we battle it out?
Celebrities and heads of state, etc. are a special case. They are getting bombarded from many people at once all the time. So you may have an effect, but chances are, you're just going to get lost in the noise unless you're within sight, and you are absolutely blasting them. The more competition you have, the less your "signal" will stand out.
Quote:2B) Also wont this result in turmoil for the said celebrity too either internally or perhaps externally with her relationshops with others/lovers etc?
Just some thoughts that came to mind regarding this but if DMSI can achieve all this, hell even a girl i like near me would be more than enough for me haha
Typically, they have learned to block the excess input, or ignore it.
(06-18-2021, 12:27 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon on a seperate note I am going to now increase my loops to 2 a day rather than keep to the 1 day. Im currently on 2 days on and 2 days off.
I however have the urge to add a silent track before the 2 tracks start. Maybe of 30mins. No idea why I even have this urge, is this relevant in anyway?
Do you read the forum, Jake?
(06-18-2021, 02:47 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]FRM 5.0 is having effects, yes. Early days yet, which is even more encouraging.
I was referring to IYPS. But, I remember your post about Grow Taller and how you had doubts it can work with current technology. If there's sufficient interest, up to you about whether to produce it before 6G, I guess. Would perhaps be an intriguing benchmark test as well as IYPS, to show progress possibly if nothing else.
I suppose I could do IYPS and see what happens. But I need income, not refunds. And I am not sure I can do what I'm aiming to do yet. Or build it in the amount of time I have left this month. It seems worth modeling though.
(06-18-2021, 05:20 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (06-18-2021, 05:17 AM)MegaMan Wrote: [ -> ] (06-18-2021, 02:47 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]FRM 5.0 is having effects, yes. Early days yet, which is even more encouraging.
I was referring to IYPS. But, I remember your post about Grow Taller and how you had doubts it can work with current technology. If there's sufficient interest, up to you about whether to produce it before 6G, I guess. Would perhaps be an intriguing benchmark test as well as IYPS, to show progress possibly if nothing else.
Could you please elaborate on what IYPS is? I didn't find it in the glossary. Thanks.
Increase Your P*nis Size. It's one of the physical growth products, along side Grow Taller, Bre*st Enlargement, etc.
It's unclear if a physical growth/change sub can work until 6G. Seems to be some interest in developing one, I think it's probably premature. But, up to Shannon if he decides to test it and we can get a barometer for progress where we are currently in development.
I think that fills in the blanks for you.
That is not true. It is very clear that physical growth/change subs can and do work. They just work under specific circumstances. For example, you have to have the right set of instructions. You can't sabotage the program. You can't defy the laws of physics. We have had lots of people report results that were genuine success with this sort of subs. The key is that it has to be done correctly according to the specifics in play. We don't know what all necessary correct procedures are yet for everything we may want to grow. Penis enlargement, for example.
(06-18-2021, 08:19 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (06-18-2021, 05:20 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (06-18-2021, 05:17 AM)MegaMan Wrote: [ -> ] (06-18-2021, 02:47 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]FRM 5.0 is having effects, yes. Early days yet, which is even more encouraging.
I was referring to IYPS. But, I remember your post about Grow Taller and how you had doubts it can work with current technology. If there's sufficient interest, up to you about whether to produce it before 6G, I guess. Would perhaps be an intriguing benchmark test as well as IYPS, to show progress possibly if nothing else.
Could you please elaborate on what IYPS is? I didn't find it in the glossary. Thanks.
Increase Your P*nis Size. It's one of the physical growth products, along side Grow Taller, Bre*st Enlargement, etc.
It's unclear if a physical growth/change sub can work until 6G. Seems to be some interest in developing one, I think it's probably premature. But, up to Shannon if he decides to test it and we can get a barometer for progress where we are currently in development.
I think that fills in the blanks for you.
That is not true. It is very clear that physical growth/change subs can and do work. They just work under specific circumstances. For example, you have to have the right set of instructions. You can't sabotage the program. You can't defy the laws of physics. We have had lots of people report results that were genuine success with this sort of subs. The key is that it has to be done correctly according to the specifics in play. We don't know what all necessary correct procedures are yet for everything we may want to grow. Penis enlargement, for example.
I hear you, I was just trying to reference this post from you, should've just copypasta'd it then, lol.
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Grow-...#pid243708
(06-18-2021, 05:29 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Just a few questions concerning UMS V2:
1. How long is this intro price going to be for?
Uncertain.
Quote:2. I assume the sub is designed for 3 months usage, right?
That will be determined by the models, but it's designed to be used for 1 month per stage.
Quote:3. Does it specifically deal with procrastination in line with the goal? I've had success there with OF V3 alone, so more would be awesome. Just any info on what programs are in it, scripting goals etc. Possibly that will be made once it's done, just saying it'd be nice to know beforehand, haha.
Thanks, seems like it'll be an interesting program!
It is very similar to the previous version as to what's in the key script. The differences to the key script are as follows:
1. It is now divided into a staged approach.
2. It has +1 statements in one of the modules, which covers a situation I had not thought of previously.
3. It has had a few modules removed that were redundant after script was brought up to current standards.
4. Script has been brought up to current standards and optimized.
And of course the skeleton script is updated, and it's brought up to 5.75.7G and made into stages, and now has FRM 5.0.
The key script for UMS was already as long as I could work with, and certainly didn't need improvement in terms of what was in it. What it needed was better ability to get through the user's fears, which it now has, and a better approach to building the foundation and then the house, which it now has in the form of stages.
Well, I guess I'll hold off on a decision on UMS until you decide where IYPS and DMSI fit in over the next potentially 3 months it'd be to run that program. Fair enough!
Hi @
Shannon
Will the new UMS include upgraded healing/clearing and USLM, effectively USLM 5 and E5?
(06-18-2021, 09:40 AM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi @Shannon
Will the new UMS include upgraded healing/clearing and USLM, effectively USLM 5 and E5?
Everything is upgraded because of the scripting conventions and the skeleton script. USLM is listed as 4.2, but it's actually a little beyond that because it's 5.75.7G. It's not a defined version number though. EHPRA is listed as v4 because the script has not changed, but again, script methods, optimizations, FRM and skeleton script all work to upgrade it too. These are unique versions of those titles as modules, which will be above what is currently available, but not what I make next in the case of what comes next for those titles.
Lol @
Benjamin is probably sleeping right now so the files for UMS2 won't be linked for another couple hours
tried to buy UMS, seems i am locked out of my account PayPal and need to verify using my phone number.
but the phone number provided is my old one, with no way to change it, of course trying to contact them has been a nightmare so far.
Trying again tomorrow.
Subconscious resistance? who knows haha
(06-18-2021, 12:40 PM)Griffin Wrote: [ -> ]tried to buy UMS, seems i am locked out of my account PayPal and need to verify using my phone number.
but the phone number provided is my old one, with no way to change it, of course trying to contact them has been a nightmare so far.
Trying again tomorrow.
Subconscious resistance? who knows haha
Sounds more like PayPal being PayPal. Sorry to hear about that. We are working on alternate payment methods.