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(07-20-2020, 11:08 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-20-2020, 09:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-19-2020, 10:59 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I think I will have to stop OF and start MHS, as some physical conditions have got worse now.
I am planning to listen it alongside with DRS and than get back to OF as soon as possible, just tell me in your opinion, how long break should I take in between?

Before I answer your question, I will ask some of my own.

Why do you think the physical conditions have gotten worse?  Is this just coincidence, or is some part of you trying to give you "reasons" to switch, or trying to make you miserable enough to switch (threats)?  Is this running away?  

If your conditions have worsened for reasons other than using OF, then it would seem reasonable to use MHS to try to help them.  But if they're suddenly getting worse because your subconscious is trying to disincentivize you to use OF and instead encourage you to use something else, I think it is wiser to simply find a different usage pattern and keep going with OF.

In my case, I have been met with overwhelming exhaustion.  So I lowered the volume slightly.  I could also have switched formats, changed the number of loops per day, days on, days off... but I'm trying to follow the instructions and still change variables to make this possible.  So I changed the volume by lowering it a little bit.

If this is an effort to get you to switch programs, ask yourself: are you looking at having those physical conditions as a result of some part of your subconscious causing them for some reason that is completely illogical?  If they are caused by your own subconscious, why?  Them getting worse, in what appears (given my limited information here) to be a reaction to OF, trying to get you to stop using it, suggests that they may exist in the first place as a result of some part of you attempting to prevent or avoid something, even before using OF.  Them getting worse (if it is in response to OF) hints that they may be a way to avoid something you fear, and as such are being made worse by the part of you that generated them in the first place, again, to avoid something feared.

If that is the case, then is it really going to be a good idea to switch?  Or would you be better staying the course and getting rid of the fear that us behind them?

Of course I'm asking questions because I don't have enough information to judge.  But I want you to consider these possibilities before you switch to something else.  When the going gets tough, those who run away don't achieve the goals.  Make sure you're not just running away.

Well, this inflammation I have, started a few months ago before OF was even made, and when buying OF I hesitated if to buy OF or to buy MHS, but still went with OF (cause I have problems with some unaddressable fears and would like to get rid of them and I thought the inflammation was not that severe), now all of this seems to me like a really heavy physical detoxing (I did not meet this kind of heavy detoxing before) which in turn triggered inflammation, so you can imagine the rest of the story.

I do not think it is fear based,but to be 100% sure that it is not resistance I would need to stop OF and see for myself if the condition improves, but I will not experiment in that way, I would rather experiment with the listening schedule of OF and do two weeks without off days.

And I would definitely say that I am executing  Smile


One more thing that I wanted to mention is that, It seems to me that previous programming is still "recorded" somewhere in the subconscious but was not executing , and it seems that OF unblocked some of previous programming, I noticed it last week, but can not remember exactly what, I was and still am amazed how well OF works.




so...your thoughts on this, and please, your answer to my original question.

If you don't think it's resistance, and you want to take a break, I personally would give it 2-3 weeks off OF at least before you start using something else.  The TID is 2-3 weeks at least, and that means that's the minimum amount of time it'll be running in your head afterwards.  If you don't want to trigger turbulence, I would use that.

If you use a subliminal for long enough the program may become part of your "base system".  If that system is being constantly masked or overridden by fear, it won't be able to execute until the fear masking it is removed.
(07-22-2020, 06:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Welcome to the party, Keith.  Smile

 Thanks Shannon, certainly going to be an interesting ride,indeed.  On the note of TID and related...I  noted this way back when this TID  thing was first coming around,and in years prior with other healing/uplifting/workshops,game changers,ect...same thing....by committing to thus and such....the healing began,or the changes began or one's stuff came up for healing,began,the trggering of what needed to be clear  was "up" for healing/change/metamorphosis.

 energy follows INTENTION... simply by considering and/or definitely committing  to buying/using   Subliminal "X,Y or Z" it jumps into action,it 'triggers' the shifting, via  the program, its not at full power,of course, but it is noticeable.

 and the more you develop  these Sub's. and the more improvements upon the technology,the stronger the TID,matched with Intention gets. its F---king amazing,to say da least. the journey continues.

PS: Just read your latest update-posting in your 'closed' journal ,Shannon, really encouraging things happening with the scripting and progress of LTU, and all. wow and even more coolness to come in the days and weeks ahead. GO speed racer, go speed racer, go !!!
(07-23-2020, 04:00 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-20-2020, 11:08 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-20-2020, 09:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-19-2020, 10:59 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I think I will have to stop OF and start MHS, as some physical conditions have got worse now.
I am planning to listen it alongside with DRS and than get back to OF as soon as possible, just tell me in your opinion, how long break should I take in between?

Before I answer your question, I will ask some of my own.

Why do you think the physical conditions have gotten worse?  Is this just coincidence, or is some part of you trying to give you "reasons" to switch, or trying to make you miserable enough to switch (threats)?  Is this running away?  

If your conditions have worsened for reasons other than using OF, then it would seem reasonable to use MHS to try to help them.  But if they're suddenly getting worse because your subconscious is trying to disincentivize you to use OF and instead encourage you to use something else, I think it is wiser to simply find a different usage pattern and keep going with OF.

In my case, I have been met with overwhelming exhaustion.  So I lowered the volume slightly.  I could also have switched formats, changed the number of loops per day, days on, days off... but I'm trying to follow the instructions and still change variables to make this possible.  So I changed the volume by lowering it a little bit.

If this is an effort to get you to switch programs, ask yourself: are you looking at having those physical conditions as a result of some part of your subconscious causing them for some reason that is completely illogical?  If they are caused by your own subconscious, why?  Them getting worse, in what appears (given my limited information here) to be a reaction to OF, trying to get you to stop using it, suggests that they may exist in the first place as a result of some part of you attempting to prevent or avoid something, even before using OF.  Them getting worse (if it is in response to OF) hints that they may be a way to avoid something you fear, and as such are being made worse by the part of you that generated them in the first place, again, to avoid something feared.

If that is the case, then is it really going to be a good idea to switch?  Or would you be better staying the course and getting rid of the fear that us behind them?

Of course I'm asking questions because I don't have enough information to judge.  But I want you to consider these possibilities before you switch to something else.  When the going gets tough, those who run away don't achieve the goals.  Make sure you're not just running away.

Well, this inflammation I have, started a few months ago before OF was even made, and when buying OF I hesitated if to buy OF or to buy MHS, but still went with OF (cause I have problems with some unaddressable fears and would like to get rid of them and I thought the inflammation was not that severe), now all of this seems to me like a really heavy physical detoxing (I did not meet this kind of heavy detoxing before) which in turn triggered inflammation, so you can imagine the rest of the story.

I do not think it is fear based,but to be 100% sure that it is not resistance I would need to stop OF and see for myself if the condition improves, but I will not experiment in that way, I would rather experiment with the listening schedule of OF and do two weeks without off days.

And I would definitely say that I am executing  Smile


One more thing that I wanted to mention is that, It seems to me that previous programming is still "recorded" somewhere in the subconscious but was not executing , and it seems that OF unblocked some of previous programming, I noticed it last week, but can not remember exactly what, I was and still am amazed how well OF works.




so... @Shannon your thoughts on this, and please, your answer to my original question.

@Shannon I suppose you didn't see my reply

BTW few days ago when I buyed MHS , something strange happened  Roflmao , the physical conditions mentioned earlier  somehow started to improve... But,wait for it, I am not even listening to MHS (Listening OF), and I didnt think of this until today when I have read that you have TID-s from TID-s  Roflmao  

So now to write, this conclusion of mine , regarding time, past present and future, as I see it, it is just a collective consciousness byproduct, actually everything is happening in the now...so it is just about which path (reality) a person chooses, that path comes to surface and it starts manifesting.

What I wanted to say is,I did chose that I will listen to MHS, and than the PX technology (insert the correct no. after P) made the MHS available to my subconscious just because I did set my intention that will listen to it,and it started to affecting me.

so, when you set the intention to develop the P technology, the P technology started to affect you even before you made it, because that is what the P tech. does, just because you were on that path and decided it is going to happen  Wink


That is a very powerful tool!

Just imagine one day that you develop a tech. that will allow the user after purchasing to not even listen to the subliminal, or listen to it only once and that the sub is instantly downloaded and recorded in the conscious unconscious and subconscious mind and starts executing right away, and does not stop!!!

Imagine a sub that could bring peace freedom love and health to the whole planet earth, directly to the collective consciousness, that is something to aim for, right? Smile

(I hope you understood what I wrote, cause it is sometimes difficult to write conclusions with mine thought flow)

It's not that I didn't see it.  It's that the browser tab I had it assigned to got "lost" and it wasn't where it should have been for me to answer it for a bit.

In your case, this could be two different things.  One would be TID.  The other would be the subconscious no longer causing the problem because it's getting what it wanted by causing the problem in the first place.  That can be seen a lot in cases where the subconscious creates an uncomfortable situation (pain, depression, etc.) and demands that XYZ either be done or stop being done, and the moment you decide to give it what it wants, the pain/etc. goes away.  I've seen it a number of times with alcoholics and drug users who decide to go drink or do drugs again, and with people using subliminals that their subconscious doesn't want them to use.  

Your imaginings are interesting, but I so far don't see a way to achieve those things.  Smile
(07-23-2020, 12:10 AM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]Pardon my ignorance, but what is the planned pricing for LTU6?

Bump
(07-23-2020, 05:38 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 12:10 AM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]Pardon my ignorance, but what is the planned pricing for LTU6?

Bump

The planned introductory price for LTU6 is $114.95 per stage, or $600 for the set.  At some point, the price will go to it's full value, which I have not yet determined.
(07-23-2020, 09:13 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-20-2020, 11:08 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-20-2020, 09:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-19-2020, 10:59 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I think I will have to stop OF and start MHS, as some physical conditions have got worse now.
I am planning to listen it alongside with DRS and than get back to OF as soon as possible, just tell me in your opinion, how long break should I take in between?

Before I answer your question, I will ask some of my own.

Why do you think the physical conditions have gotten worse?  Is this just coincidence, or is some part of you trying to give you "reasons" to switch, or trying to make you miserable enough to switch (threats)?  Is this running away?  

If your conditions have worsened for reasons other than using OF, then it would seem reasonable to use MHS to try to help them.  But if they're suddenly getting worse because your subconscious is trying to disincentivize you to use OF and instead encourage you to use something else, I think it is wiser to simply find a different usage pattern and keep going with OF.

In my case, I have been met with overwhelming exhaustion.  So I lowered the volume slightly.  I could also have switched formats, changed the number of loops per day, days on, days off... but I'm trying to follow the instructions and still change variables to make this possible.  So I changed the volume by lowering it a little bit.

If this is an effort to get you to switch programs, ask yourself: are you looking at having those physical conditions as a result of some part of your subconscious causing them for some reason that is completely illogical?  If they are caused by your own subconscious, why?  Them getting worse, in what appears (given my limited information here) to be a reaction to OF, trying to get you to stop using it, suggests that they may exist in the first place as a result of some part of you attempting to prevent or avoid something, even before using OF.  Them getting worse (if it is in response to OF) hints that they may be a way to avoid something you fear, and as such are being made worse by the part of you that generated them in the first place, again, to avoid something feared.

If that is the case, then is it really going to be a good idea to switch?  Or would you be better staying the course and getting rid of the fear that us behind them?

Of course I'm asking questions because I don't have enough information to judge.  But I want you to consider these possibilities before you switch to something else.  When the going gets tough, those who run away don't achieve the goals.  Make sure you're not just running away.

Well, this inflammation I have, started a few months ago before OF was even made, and when buying OF I hesitated if to buy OF or to buy MHS, but still went with OF (cause I have problems with some unaddressable fears and would like to get rid of them and I thought the inflammation was not that severe), now all of this seems to me like a really heavy physical detoxing (I did not meet this kind of heavy detoxing before) which in turn triggered inflammation, so you can imagine the rest of the story.

I do not think it is fear based,but to be 100% sure that it is not resistance I would need to stop OF and see for myself if the condition improves, but I will not experiment in that way, I would rather experiment with the listening schedule of OF and do two weeks without off days.

And I would definitely say that I am executing  Smile


One more thing that I wanted to mention is that, It seems to me that previous programming is still "recorded" somewhere in the subconscious but was not executing , and it seems that OF unblocked some of previous programming, I noticed it last week, but can not remember exactly what, I was and still am amazed how well OF works.




so...your thoughts on this, and please, your answer to my original question.

If you don't think it's resistance, and you want to take a break, I personally would give it 2-3 weeks off OF at least before you start using something else.  The TID is 2-3 weeks at least, and that means that's the minimum amount of time it'll be running in your head afterwards.  If you don't want to trigger turbulence, I would use that.

If you use a subliminal for long enough the program may become part of your "base system".  If that system is being constantly masked or overridden by fear, it won't be able to execute until the fear masking it is removed.

Thank you, understood  Thumbsup
(07-23-2020, 12:40 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 04:00 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-20-2020, 11:08 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-20-2020, 09:43 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-19-2020, 10:59 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I think I will have to stop OF and start MHS, as some physical conditions have got worse now.
I am planning to listen it alongside with DRS and than get back to OF as soon as possible, just tell me in your opinion, how long break should I take in between?

Before I answer your question, I will ask some of my own.

Why do you think the physical conditions have gotten worse?  Is this just coincidence, or is some part of you trying to give you "reasons" to switch, or trying to make you miserable enough to switch (threats)?  Is this running away?  

If your conditions have worsened for reasons other than using OF, then it would seem reasonable to use MHS to try to help them.  But if they're suddenly getting worse because your subconscious is trying to disincentivize you to use OF and instead encourage you to use something else, I think it is wiser to simply find a different usage pattern and keep going with OF.

In my case, I have been met with overwhelming exhaustion.  So I lowered the volume slightly.  I could also have switched formats, changed the number of loops per day, days on, days off... but I'm trying to follow the instructions and still change variables to make this possible.  So I changed the volume by lowering it a little bit.

If this is an effort to get you to switch programs, ask yourself: are you looking at having those physical conditions as a result of some part of your subconscious causing them for some reason that is completely illogical?  If they are caused by your own subconscious, why?  Them getting worse, in what appears (given my limited information here) to be a reaction to OF, trying to get you to stop using it, suggests that they may exist in the first place as a result of some part of you attempting to prevent or avoid something, even before using OF.  Them getting worse (if it is in response to OF) hints that they may be a way to avoid something you fear, and as such are being made worse by the part of you that generated them in the first place, again, to avoid something feared.

If that is the case, then is it really going to be a good idea to switch?  Or would you be better staying the course and getting rid of the fear that us behind them?

Of course I'm asking questions because I don't have enough information to judge.  But I want you to consider these possibilities before you switch to something else.  When the going gets tough, those who run away don't achieve the goals.  Make sure you're not just running away.

Well, this inflammation I have, started a few months ago before OF was even made, and when buying OF I hesitated if to buy OF or to buy MHS, but still went with OF (cause I have problems with some unaddressable fears and would like to get rid of them and I thought the inflammation was not that severe), now all of this seems to me like a really heavy physical detoxing (I did not meet this kind of heavy detoxing before) which in turn triggered inflammation, so you can imagine the rest of the story.

I do not think it is fear based,but to be 100% sure that it is not resistance I would need to stop OF and see for myself if the condition improves, but I will not experiment in that way, I would rather experiment with the listening schedule of OF and do two weeks without off days.

And I would definitely say that I am executing  Smile


One more thing that I wanted to mention is that, It seems to me that previous programming is still "recorded" somewhere in the subconscious but was not executing , and it seems that OF unblocked some of previous programming, I noticed it last week, but can not remember exactly what, I was and still am amazed how well OF works.




so... @Shannon your thoughts on this, and please, your answer to my original question.

@Shannon I suppose you didn't see my reply

BTW few days ago when I buyed MHS , something strange happened  Roflmao , the physical conditions mentioned earlier  somehow started to improve... But,wait for it, I am not even listening to MHS (Listening OF), and I didnt think of this until today when I have read that you have TID-s from TID-s  Roflmao  

So now to write, this conclusion of mine , regarding time, past present and future, as I see it, it is just a collective consciousness byproduct, actually everything is happening in the now...so it is just about which path (reality) a person chooses, that path comes to surface and it starts manifesting.

What I wanted to say is,I did chose that I will listen to MHS, and than the PX technology (insert the correct no. after P) made the MHS available to my subconscious just because I did set my intention that will listen to it,and it started to affecting me.

so, when you set the intention to develop the P technology, the P technology started to affect you even before you made it, because that is what the P tech. does, just because you were on that path and decided it is going to happen  Wink


That is a very powerful tool!

Just imagine one day that you develop a tech. that will allow the user after purchasing to not even listen to the subliminal, or listen to it only once and that the sub is instantly downloaded and recorded in the conscious unconscious and subconscious mind and starts executing right away, and does not stop!!!

Imagine a sub that could bring peace freedom love and health to the whole planet earth, directly to the collective consciousness, that is something to aim for, right? Smile

(I hope you understood what I wrote, cause it is sometimes difficult to write conclusions with mine thought flow)

It's not that I didn't see it.  It's that the browser tab I had it assigned to got "lost" and it wasn't where it should have been for me to answer it for a bit.

In your case, this could be two different things.  One would be TID.  The other would be the subconscious no longer causing the problem because it's getting what it wanted by causing the problem in the first place.  That can be seen a lot in cases where the subconscious creates an uncomfortable situation (pain, depression, etc.) and demands that XYZ either be done or stop being done, and the moment you decide to give it what it wants, the pain/etc. goes away.  I've seen it a number of times with alcoholics and drug users who decide to go drink or do drugs again, and with people using subliminals that their subconscious doesn't want them to use.  

Your imaginings are interesting, but I so far don't see a way to achieve those things.  Smile

Well @Shannon when you started making subliminals, did you know that you will be developing 6G and all this wonderful tools you made?  Smile
Time will show  Yeye
(07-23-2020, 11:47 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]Well @Shannon when you started making subliminals, did you know that you will be developing 6G and all this wonderful tools you made?  Smile
Time will show  Yeye

When I started making subliminals, I didn't even know I would be starting a business to do this.  When I started the business years later, I didn't even know I would be developing 2G.
(07-22-2020, 05:57 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-22-2020, 05:32 PM)NOMAD Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-22-2020, 04:16 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-22-2020, 02:47 PM)Wiseg9999 Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, when you say things like use volume 14/16 - does this relate to mobile phone speakers? what about connected to other speakers with amplification and volume?

for example, i have an android at 14/16 connected to power speakers using ultra sonic MIR 5.75
i would say its quite "loud", when i test it with hybrid for example for calibration.
when i sleep, Frequensee is showing -50db at my ears, which is about 3m from the speakers.

Are these the right settings? will these setting apply for other subs like OF 5.75?

When I say 13/15 I mean "playing from the onboard speaker of an Android phone.  14/16 on iPhone, or 26/30 on a Google phone (I think it was Google phone) is the equivalent.  Whatever the volume is at the speaker, that is the volume you want to use on whatever other player/external speakers if possible.  The exception is headphones or earbuds.  I don't use those, so I haven't figured out the optimal volume for them.  But it would be way too loud on headphones or earbuds at 13/15 I suspect, and you shouldn't use ultrasonic on them anyway.

It doesn't matter what the volume is at your ear, because volume falls off at the square of the distance from the source, and your ear moves around.  You need to match it at the source.

I use earbuds on an Android phone and set the volume of 10-11/15 (whatever is most comfortable.) Maybe try starting at that level. 

 I use the hybrid Triclikng Stream .flac format.

Hybrid includes ultrasonic.  That is not a wise thing to do on earbuds.  Especially on earbuds.  The volume from the speaker does not equate.  it is much higher, relatively, through earbuds.  It can potentially also damage your hearing to listen to ultrasonic that loud through earbuds.

I was a bit surprised by this.

Would it be possible for you to briefly sum up the suggested format and volume level for iphone speaker and earbuds for OF?
(07-22-2020, 10:09 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-22-2020, 09:22 AM)Hanpan Wrote: [ -> ]What happened with the thing you discovered that could improve FRM? You think that will be part of ltu6?

So far I have not really had a lot of chance to work on it.  When I have, the results have not always been stable.  There is only a suggestion of what the answer might be right now.  When I am done with everything else in LTU6, I'll see if it is a better option than FRM 4.9.

Sounds good. I'm sure you'll find the best way going forward. 

An updated FRM would be awesome if possible. Otherwise, I'm also very eager to see what FRM can do in LTU6.
(07-24-2020, 08:56 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-23-2020, 11:47 PM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]Well @Shannon when you started making subliminals, did you know that you will be developing 6G and all this wonderful tools you made?  Smile
Time will show  Yeye

When I started making subliminals, I didn't even know I would be starting a business to do this.  When I started the business years later, I didn't even know I would be developing 2G.

Everything is possible  Smile
@Shannon

How the script for E4 looking compared to E3 since you are in the process of upgrading the scripts for LTU6?
(07-24-2020, 09:37 AM)THolt Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon

How the script for E4 looking compared to E3 since you are in the process of upgrading the scripts for LTU6?

It looks a lot redder. Smile
Hey Shannon is their a big difference between the content in LTU 5 vs LTU6 or is it mostly just adding in more power and optimization and making it into a 6 stage?
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