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About OF V3: I won't do a journal here, I didn't think there is anything to report before the 3 month mark and even if it is, it might be too "normalized" and I wouldn't see it. But on day 5 I already saw myself changing behavior and acting more quickly. I'm not sure if it is a one time only or something like that but I was positively surprised to see that. Thumbs up for that!
On the website it is a little strangely written in the beginning note with "If you have purchased a copy of Overcoming Fear Version 2, buying this version of the program before you have used Version 1 for at least 8 months straight" doesn't make sense. It talks about a bought version 2 and the usage of version 1 which isn't necessarily possible. I think you meant 2.

About UMS2: Is it going to be a 4-stage-set or a 3-stage-set? Since the 6-stagers also have a refresher stage (7) and are not called 7-stage-sets, what makes UMS2 a 4-stage-set? How will stage 4 be different to a stage 7 from AM/WM/SM?
Oh, and I want to say a special thanks to CatMan for suggesting an updated version of OF. I enjoy it so far. Best value for my money this year (so far)!
(05-23-2021, 10:01 PM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]About OF V3: I won't do a journal here, I didn't think there is anything to report before the 3 month mark and even if it is, it might be too "normalized" and I wouldn't see it. But on day 5 I already saw myself changing behavior and acting more quickly. I'm not sure if it is a one time only or something like that but I was positively surprised to see that. Thumbs up for that!
On the website it is a little strangely written in the beginning note with "If you have purchased a copy of Overcoming Fear Version 2, buying this version of the program before you have used Version 1 for at least 8 months straight" doesn't make sense. It talks about a bought version 2 and the usage of version 1 which isn't necessarily possible. I think you meant 2.

About UMS2: Is it going to be a 4-stage-set or a 3-stage-set? Since the 6-stagers also have a refresher stage (7) and are not called 7-stage-sets, what makes UMS2 a 4-stage-set? How will stage 4 be different to a stage 7 from AM/WM/SM?

When reading OF v3 journal, people may think "they report 'good' thing too early". But until you experience it yourself, you'll understand how different it is from the generation below 5.75.7G. Hope gonna see you journaling OF v3, AriGold.
One thing I forgot. I once had a moment on AM6 where some clarity was shining through, I was completely aware and in the moment, like distant from past and future, only the moment exists, everything is going a little bit slower. I compare it with the matrix movies when Neo either was escaping bullets or was the first time seeing it in code. Of course that is not an exact metaphor for what I was experiencing, but it was a strange clarity I was feeling and only lasted for a short amount of time.

Why am I telling this? Yesterday I also had "that same clarity" and remembering that I have felt that before. I also read from others that OF is kind of like preparing or making AM shine through. Yes I became more bold in thoughts and actions. I was completely aware of my actions/non-actions and the results/non-results. I became aware of my decisions and lack thereof. It was also as if my past "comfort zone" was taken away, like my ships were burnt after I arrived at a new island and the only way is forward. So the feeling is like "even if you don't feel comfortable yet, there is no way going back, it was a fake comfort zone, welcome to your new reality".
With AM these moments have pushed me sometimes into depressive thoughts (I would not go as far as calling it depression), I hated the state I was in and didn't want to see it. Now I'm in a different place, there is still stuff I don't like but I have (and feel!) the strength inside me to change what I don't like, to confront myself with reality and to go into a new reality.

Edit: I dont't want to spam Shannon's journal discussion, just wanted to report some experiences and hear from Shannon if it is an "expected result" from OF or just some lucky coincidence.
Shannon, how far are we from Gen 7.0 tech?

Do you feel we’re getting closer?
(05-24-2021, 03:46 AM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, how far are we from Gen 7.0 tech?

Do you feel we’re getting closer?

Ahem.... you mean 6G?
(05-24-2021, 04:01 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-24-2021, 03:46 AM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, how far are we from Gen 7.0 tech?

Do you feel we’re getting closer?

Ahem.... you mean 6G?

Lol  Yeah 6G - I was thinking of AM7 lmao
Hello Shannon . I have read somewhere you added 11 new senteces to OF v3 script. I have used OF v1 for 7,5 months before but I had like 30 % results from it as far as i cant judge. My brother we listened it together maybe less 20 % . Now i bought OF v3 and i looking forward to it. A question came to my mind what if I dont understand script? I have read on FAQ it will work when my english is not so great but I am thinking about what If i dont understand half script or maybe some key words in that maybe will give me only 50 % results? I know you dont wanna post scrypts here anymore but maybe we should find a way to let us know at least a half of it? Or i dont have to worry at all and just belive my subconsious mind understands it all.. Thank you.
(05-23-2021, 02:10 PM)Qiel Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2021, 08:24 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You guys need to trust in my judgement.  I know what I am doing, and when I don't, I start experimenting until I do.  If the experiments had showed that I should make things simpler, then I would have.  But they didn't.  They kept telling me that there were more and more issues that needed to be dealt with and variables that needed to be accounted for.  So script to deal with and account for them was created, and complexity grew.

It's hard being a perfectionist, especially if we keep adding and re-adding every new value to the work we do as the progress continues for the sake of creating masterpiece. The satisfaction feeling only the creator could feel. But that's why I believe in your work. I do the same in real life.

I'm not trying to create a masterpiece with DMSI.  I'm trying to achieve the goals I set out to achieve in the first place.  What we add, what we change and what we remove always has a good, solid, logical reason for that choice behind it.  Within that I always do the best, most accurate and most precise work I am capable of.  But creating a masterpiece can be the goal after I achieve making it do what I said it would do - if I have the time.  Who knows, maybe that will make it a masterpiece anyway.  That's not for me to decide anyway.
(05-23-2021, 10:01 PM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]About OF V3: I won't do a journal here, I didn't think there is anything to report before the 3 month mark and even if it is, it might be too "normalized" and I wouldn't see it. But on day 5 I already saw myself changing behavior and acting more quickly. I'm not sure if it is a one time only or something like that but I was positively surprised to see that. Thumbs up for that!
On the website it is a little strangely written in the beginning note with "If you have purchased a copy of Overcoming Fear Version 2, buying this version of the program before you have used Version 1 for at least 8 months straight" doesn't make sense. It talks about a bought version 2 and the usage of version 1 which isn't necessarily possible. I think you meant 2.

About UMS2: Is it going to be a 4-stage-set or a 3-stage-set? Since the 6-stagers also have a refresher stage (7) and are not called 7-stage-sets, what makes UMS2 a 4-stage-set? How will stage 4 be different to a stage 7 from AM/WM/SM?

Thanks for pointing that out.  I'll change it in a bit.

UMS v2 will be a 3+1 stage set.  Stage 4 will be "the whole script", but it may have one piece missing from Stages 1, 2 and 3 depending on what the models tell me.  That piece is the FRM.  It may be that we do better to leave it out of Stage 4, so that we can use stages 1-2-3 again and again until we don't need it, and then use Stage 4 without it.  If that is the case, Stage 4 will be everything but FRM.  If not, it will be everything in stages 1-2-3.

"6 stagers" are properly called 6+1 stage sets, because the last "stage" is really the goal of the first six.  It's the goal and the refresher, with the stages being steps to that goal.  Thus, it's technically not a stage.  And, we don't charge for the goal/refresher "stage" if you buy the whole set at once.

Stage 1 will primarily deal with clearing garbage beliefs and fear, and setting a basic foundation.  Stage 2 will continue removing fear and garbage beliefs and build on that foundation.  Stage 3 will only have fear removal, and not be trying to remove garbage thoughts.  It will build further on the Stage 2 foundation and give you "the rest of what you need".  As I said before, Stage 4 will be everything in Stages 1-2-3, with the possible exception of FRM.
(05-24-2021, 12:14 AM)AriGold Wrote: [ -> ]One thing I forgot. I once had a moment on AM6 where some clarity was shining through, I was completely aware and in the moment, like distant from past and future, only the moment exists, everything is going a little bit slower. I compare it with the matrix movies when Neo either was escaping bullets or was the first time seeing it in code. Of course that is not an exact metaphor for what I was experiencing, but it was a strange clarity I was feeling and only lasted for a short amount of time.

Why am I telling this? Yesterday I also had "that same clarity" and remembering that I have felt that before. I also read from others that OF is kind of like preparing or making AM shine through. Yes I became more bold in thoughts and actions. I was completely aware of my actions/non-actions and the results/non-results. I became aware of my decisions and lack thereof. It was also as if my past "comfort zone" was taken away, like my ships were burnt after I arrived at a new island and the only way is forward. So the feeling is like "even if you don't feel comfortable yet, there is no way going back, it was a fake comfort zone, welcome to your new reality".
With AM these moments have pushed me sometimes into depressive thoughts (I would not go as far as calling it depression), I hated the state I was in and didn't want to see it. Now I'm in a different place, there is still stuff I don't like but I have (and feel!) the strength inside me to change what I don't like, to confront myself with reality and to go into a new reality.

Edit: I dont't want to spam Shannon's journal discussion, just wanted to report some experiences and hear from Shannon if it is an "expected result" from OF or just some lucky coincidence.

It is definitely not an unexpected result.  How's that?  Wink
(05-24-2021, 05:02 AM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-24-2021, 04:01 AM)UniversalMan Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-24-2021, 03:46 AM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, how far are we from Gen 7.0 tech?

Do you feel we’re getting closer?

Ahem.... you mean 6G?

Lol  Yeah 6G - I was thinking of AM7 lmao

We made a big step forward with 5.75.7G.  There's only two major jobs left to do now, I think.  It should come out sometime before the end of 2022, but I don't want to get more specific than that because I don't know much about how long building in the new gen takes, or how long the two major jobs will take.
(05-24-2021, 09:44 AM)majorSK Wrote: [ -> ]Hello Shannon . I have read somewhere you added 11 new senteces to OF v3 script. I have used OF v1 for 7,5 months before but I had like 30 % results from it as far as i cant judge. My brother we listened it together maybe less 20 % . Now i bought OF v3 and i looking forward to it. A question came to my mind what if I dont understand script? I have read on FAQ it will work when my english is not so great but I am thinking about what If i dont understand half script or maybe some key words in that  maybe will give me only 50 % results? I know you dont wanna post scrypts here anymore but maybe we should find a way to let us know at least a half of it? Or i dont have to worry at all and just belive my subconsious mind understands it all.. Thank you.

11 new statements, yes.

If you got any results at all, you understand the script.  I cannot publish any of the script at this point without teaching my competitors things that have cost me years and a lot of money to discover.  This forum has already cost me dearly in that regard, giving away a lot of information I should not have and spawning many competitors already in the process.  So I will not ever be publishing any of my scripts again.  One of our competitors basically used the script library to start their business and based all their subs on it, from what I understand.  While I removed most of the important stuff before publishing the scripts, it hasn't mattered.  People used them to steal from us and cost us money.  I'm not doing that again.

I think that your subconscious may be trying to find reasons to make you afraid of getting rid of fear.  There's quite a big difference between v1 and v2.  There's even more difference between v2 and v3.
Shannon what’s your definition of masterpiece in regards to subliminal? And what do you think a master piece would be in regards to music? (You don’t have to answer the second question if your too busy or think it’s not relevant, I’m being a little selfish by asking but I respect your input and knowledge and can use it for my benefit.

Also a friendly reminder to work on NSLW as well and to take your time if needed but please don’t let me down, My future success and chance of success is highly dependent on that program , as well as my own hard work and consistency and dedication. I’m been improving tremendously over the last year and I feel like I’m getting very close to that level of professionalism and creative quality that would allow me to get allot of fans and become a well known artist. My singing is way better then before and I think overcome fear may have something to do with it however I still believe it’s TID because my level of creativity & flow in my freestyles is WAY better then before.
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