Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Zeroxmachina]

Starting to wonder whether a 4th loop of OF v.3 would be useful next cycle.

I've been doin 3 a day, 5 days on, 1 day off. I'll probably switch to hybrid soon.

[KingDavid93]

Hi @Shannon


While running UMS V2 stage 1- I notice I get more of a body high/buzzing sensation when running US on headphones vs running hybrid on headphones- any idea why that may be?

I’m playing it on my iPhone using the standard set of iPhone headphones that come with them

[Shannon]

Hi @Shannon


While running UMS V2 stage 1- I notice I get more of a body high/buzzing sensation when running US on headphones vs running hybrid on headphones- any idea why that may be?

I’m playing it on my iPhone using the standard set of iPhone headphones that come with them

If I had to guess, I would guess that the body buzz results from better execution.  Remember that MOAR POWER!!11!!1!1 is not always BETTER EXECUTION.

[Jake2015]

@Shannon you wrote this

@Shannon

I have been running masked the whole time (3 loops currently) and I am thinking about running hybrid format. How many loops would it be advised to start off with?

Each loop of hybrid is 2 loops of anything else. I suggest starting with 1 and increase if you feel the need.

at tholt's journal here:https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-OF-V3-Journal?pid=246553#pid246553

So if 2 US is equal to 1 hybrid and I would prefer staying on US (as silent is my preference for sleep) then is it okay to do that since it seems so many are getting stronger effects and results from hybrid. I rather just increase my loops if the effects can be the same?

When I listen to ultrasonic, I play it through my phone speaker which sits on my bedside table.  When I listen to hybrid, I play the loops through earbuds. Keep this in mind when you read what I say next. 

Based on my listening practices, 1 hybrid loop > 2 ultrasonic loops. I can handle 5 days of 3 ultrasonic loops and could probably go even farther. This past cycle,  2 days of 3 hybrid loops has pretty well maxed out my brain's processing capacity.

Another factor (that I just thought of while typing) to consider is the amount of input being processed per unit of time. On the surface, it might seem as simple as 2x the input = 2x the output,  but the downstream effects of the 2x input at the same time could be 3x, 4x, 5x, etc. because of the level of urgency placed on the subconscious. 

In the end, whether it's because of anything I wrote above or not,  hybrid has been a completely different experience for me.

Thank you for that bro so my understanding is that 1 loop of hybrid is more than 2 US loops.

so you listening to 3 hybrids may not equal 5loops US but even more and you were able to do 5 days but then next time became 2 days possibly 3 so reduced due to the power.

Plus yes the output isnt proportional but could be somewhat exponential in growth so hybrid is far more powerful than US is the take away I think. 

correct?

[Jake2015]

@Shannon I did my first 3 loop listen (US at night) and woke feeling relaxed and bliss so thought I should increase the intensity.

How would you advise I do that please? and when, after this cycle of 3 loops is completed or shall I increase it straight away?

Ive done the 1st day ON. Tonight will be 2nd day ON. Then I have 2 days off.

ill now go update my journal about this.

[NOMAD]

@Shannon you wrote this

@Shannon

I have been running masked the whole time (3 loops currently) and I am thinking about running hybrid format. How many loops would it be advised to start off with?

Each loop of hybrid is 2 loops of anything else. I suggest starting with 1 and increase if you feel the need.

at tholt's journal here:https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-OF-V3-Journal?pid=246553#pid246553

So if 2 US is equal to 1 hybrid and I would prefer staying on US (as silent is my preference for sleep) then is it okay to do that since it seems so many are getting stronger effects and results from hybrid. I rather just increase my loops if the effects can be the same?

When I listen to ultrasonic, I play it through my phone speaker which sits on my bedside table.  When I listen to hybrid, I play the loops through earbuds. Keep this in mind when you read what I say next. 

Based on my listening practices, 1 hybrid loop > 2 ultrasonic loops. I can handle 5 days of 3 ultrasonic loops and could probably go even farther. This past cycle,  2 days of 3 hybrid loops has pretty well maxed out my brain's processing capacity.

Another factor (that I just thought of while typing) to consider is the amount of input being processed per unit of time. On the surface, it might seem as simple as 2x the input = 2x the output,  but the downstream effects of the 2x input at the same time could be 3x, 4x, 5x, etc. because of the level of urgency placed on the subconscious. 

In the end, whether it's because of anything I wrote above or not,  hybrid has been a completely different experience for me.

Thank you for that bro so my understanding is that 1 loop of hybrid is more than 2 US loops.

so you listening to 3 hybrids may not equal 5loops US but even more and you were able to do 5 days but then next time became 2 days possibly 3 so reduced due to the power.

Plus yes the output isnt proportional but could be somewhat exponential in growth so hybrid is far more powerful than US is the take away I think. 

correct?

That's correct,  but this is based purely on my own experience. Shannon and other users might have a different take.

[DMSIuser78]

@Shannon Although I'm okay with my current 6.5 inches and there are other subliminals (like OFv3) that have higher priority for me, I might be interested in running Male Enhancement at some point to add an inch or so if it ends up working.

Will it be designed to add both girth and length?

If you have a long and thin one, will it add more girth than length, and if you have a short and stubby one add more length than girth so that it becomes closer to the ideal ratio of girth vs length?

How big is "too big" and what would the issues of having it too big be? Aren't vaginas designed to stretch to be able to accommodate just about any size? After all, they are able to push a baby out of there, which is much bigger than even a very large penis.

[Shannon]

@Shannon I did my first 3 loop listen (US at night) and woke feeling relaxed and bliss so thought I should increase the intensity.

How would you advise I do that please? and when, after this cycle of 3 loops is completed or shall I increase it straight away?

Ive done the 1st day ON. Tonight will be 2nd day ON. Then I have 2 days off.

ill now go update my journal about this.

If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

[Shannon]

@Shannon Although I'm okay with my current 6.5 inches and there are other subliminals (like OFv3) that have higher priority for me, I might be interested in running Male Enhancement at some point to add an inch or so if it ends up working.

Will it be designed to add both girth and length?

I'm only making the penis thicker in the Y axis.  Sorry.  lol /s Of course it's length and girth.  

If you have a long and thin one, will it add more girth than length, and if you have a short and stubby one add more length than girth so that it becomes closer to the ideal ratio of girth vs length?

I don't know.  I'm not quite finished developing the script just yet.  And if the script does not change when I'm finished, I still won't know.

How big is "too big" and what would the issues of having it too big be? Aren't vaginas designed to stretch to be able to accommodate just about any size? After all, they are able to push a baby out of there, which is much bigger than even a very large penis.

"Too big" is subjective.  From a woman's point of view, If you have a woman who won't touch a man with less than 10", then "too big" might be 13"+.  If you have a tiny petite, too big might be anything bigger than 5.".  If it's so long that it constantly bangs on her uterine cervix during sex and that is painful for her, then it's too big.  If the thickness hurts for whatever reason, then it's too big.  While a vagina is designed to stretch and is very resilient, and some women love and crave deep cervical poundings, some women find this painful.  Nobody wants to have painful sex.  Giving birth isn't what I'd call a fun experience for most women, so it's a bad comparison.  Just because you could push something bigger than a bowling ball out your body if you tried hard enough doesn't mean you will want to, or want to do it more than once, or not need surgery to deal with the consequences.

From a man's point of view, too big might be a size at which he has trouble finding women who are willing to have sex with him because of how big his penis is (for the reasons above), or a size at which getting hard becomes difficult because he simply doesn't have sufficient blood in his body.  All of these are subjective.  There's no hard and fast rule.

[Jake2015]

@Shannon I did my first 3 loop listen (US at night) and woke feeling relaxed and bliss so thought I should increase the intensity.

How would you advise I do that please? and when, after this cycle of 3 loops is completed or shall I increase it straight away?

Ive done the 1st day ON. Tonight will be 2nd day ON. Then I have 2 days off.

ill now go update my journal about this.

If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

wow!  I thought bliss meant I was stonewalling etc as I associated negativity as the subconscious fighting the sub and thus indicating its working but this really made me smile well this bit "... that means its working." lol

Ok so im sticking with 3 loops mate!

Could you kindly take a look at my last post and give me your feedback please as well im excited but need you to confirm what you think please (which you have in a way by saying its working but still I need that extra reassurance lol)

heres my latest post: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Jake-...#pid246612

and thank you

[DMSIuser78]

How big is "too big" and what would the issues of having it too big be? Aren't vaginas designed to stretch to be able to accommodate just about any size? After all, they are able to push a baby out of there, which is much bigger than even a very large penis.

"Too big" is subjective.  From a woman's point of view, If you have a woman who won't touch a man with less than 10", then "too big" might be 13"+.  If you have a tiny petite, too big might be anything bigger than 5.".  If it's so long that it constantly bangs on her uterine cervix during sex and that is painful for her, then it's too big.  If the thickness hurts for whatever reason, then it's too big.  While a vagina is designed to stretch and is very resilient, and some women love and crave deep cervical poundings, some women find this painful.  Nobody wants to have painful sex.  Giving birth isn't what I'd call a fun experience for most women, so it's a bad comparison.  Just because you could push something bigger than a bowling ball out your body if you tried hard enough doesn't mean you will want to, or want to do it more than once, or not need surgery to deal with the consequences.

From a man's point of view, too big might be a size at which he has trouble finding women who are willing to have sex with him because of how big his penis is (for the reasons above), or a size at which getting hard becomes difficult because he simply doesn't have sufficient blood in his body.  All of these are subjective.  There's no hard and fast rule.

Sounds like there would be no benefit from running this, only potential downsides, and that mine might already be too long for some women.

[Jake2015]

@Shannon you wrote this

Each loop of hybrid is 2 loops of anything else. I suggest starting with 1 and increase if you feel the need.

at tholt's journal here:https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-OF-V3-Journal?pid=246553#pid246553

So if 2 US is equal to 1 hybrid and I would prefer staying on US (as silent is my preference for sleep) then is it okay to do that since it seems so many are getting stronger effects and results from hybrid. I rather just increase my loops if the effects can be the same?

When I listen to ultrasonic, I play it through my phone speaker which sits on my bedside table.  When I listen to hybrid, I play the loops through earbuds. Keep this in mind when you read what I say next. 

Based on my listening practices, 1 hybrid loop > 2 ultrasonic loops. I can handle 5 days of 3 ultrasonic loops and could probably go even farther. This past cycle,  2 days of 3 hybrid loops has pretty well maxed out my brain's processing capacity.

Another factor (that I just thought of while typing) to consider is the amount of input being processed per unit of time. On the surface, it might seem as simple as 2x the input = 2x the output,  but the downstream effects of the 2x input at the same time could be 3x, 4x, 5x, etc. because of the level of urgency placed on the subconscious. 

In the end, whether it's because of anything I wrote above or not,  hybrid has been a completely different experience for me.

Thank you for that bro so my understanding is that 1 loop of hybrid is more than 2 US loops.

so you listening to 3 hybrids may not equal 5loops US but even more and you were able to do 5 days but then next time became 2 days possibly 3 so reduced due to the power.

Plus yes the output isnt proportional but could be somewhat exponential in growth so hybrid is far more powerful than US is the take away I think. 

correct?

That's correct,  but this is based purely on my own experience. Shannon and other users might have a different take.

Sorry I forgot to reply to this bro/@NOMAD thank you glad I understood correctly.

[RTBoss]

@Shannon Although I'm okay with my current 6.5 inches and there are other subliminals (like OFv3) that have higher priority for me, I might be interested in running Male Enhancement at some point to add an inch or so if it ends up working.

Will it be designed to add both girth and length?

If you have a long and thin one, will it add more girth than length, and if you have a short and stubby one add more length than girth so that it becomes closer to the ideal ratio of girth vs length?

How big is "too big" and what would the issues of having it too big be? Aren't vaginas designed to stretch to be able to accommodate just about any size? After all, they are able to push a baby out of there, which is much bigger than even a very large penis.

[ffaux]

@Shannon I did my first 3 loop listen (US at night) and woke feeling relaxed and bliss so thought I should increase the intensity.

How would you advise I do that please? and when, after this cycle of 3 loops is completed or shall I increase it straight away?

Ive done the 1st day ON. Tonight will be 2nd day ON. Then I have 2 days off.

ill now go update my journal about this.

If you woke with a feeling of bliss, that means it's working.  Why would you immediately change variables around?  Don't do that.  You don't need more intensity.  Don't change anything right now.

If I wake up every morning feeling stressed and anxious with tension in my neck and shoulders, should I increase exposure, or just keep going? I’m following the base instructions of 1 loop for 2 days, followed by 3 days off