Subliminal Talk

Is SE 5.11g in the pipeline any time soon?

(04-11-2024, 01:54 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-11-2024, 05:19 AM)MegaMan Wrote: [ -> ]For me what was holding me back from achieving financial success was an intertwined mess of undeservedness, self-hate and fear of success.
3 full run-throughs of UMSv2 did not clear this. Afterwards OFv3 did some work but still baby steps. Now on DMSI I am feeling more joy and freedom to express myself.

Both experiencing the joy of living and freedom to express myself has already had a positive impact on my trajectory money wise.
Just wanted to give my perspective on this.

So the programs you should be using for the undeservedness, self hate and fear of success are E6 and/or OGSF.  OF, and especially an older version, can't handle self hate or feelings of undeservedness.  DMSI will do absolutely nothing to help those either.

Thank you. I have stopped DMSI and started the 2 weeks break, now I am torn between focusing on healing with E6 and trying to heal while also achieving success with Money Magnet.
How would Money Magnet fare in combating these issues? 
I am afraid I might need the focus on healing and this feels like a loss, like some part of me doesn't want to acknowledge I need the healing.

(04-14-2024, 03:31 AM)StridingStrider Wrote: [ -> ]Is SE 5.11g in the pipeline any time soon?

I've got Brain Optimizer in process and I'm going to be working on something for weight loss next.  Beyond that I don't know.  Go over to the polling section and start a thread with which titles you guys want me to focus on building, and I'll do what I can to get that handled.  It's more than a little crazy right now in my life, so it's hard for me to focus at the moment.

(04-14-2024, 01:41 PM)MegaMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-11-2024, 01:54 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]So the programs you should be using for the undeservedness, self hate and fear of success are E6 and/or OGSF.  OF, and especially an older version, can't handle self hate or feelings of undeservedness.  DMSI will do absolutely nothing to help those either.

Thank you. I have stopped DMSI and started the 2 weeks break, now I am torn between focusing on healing with E6 and trying to heal while also achieving success with Money Magnet.
How would Money Magnet fare in combating these issues? 
I am afraid I might need the focus on healing and this feels like a loss, like some part of me doesn't want to acknowledge I need the healing.

My modus operandi Is to build a title that focuses everything on that goal.  Money Magnet isn't going to do anything for emotional health, and EHPRA won't do anything for money.

(04-15-2024, 08:55 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-14-2024, 01:41 PM)MegaMan Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you. I have stopped DMSI and started the 2 weeks break, now I am torn between focusing on healing with E6 and trying to heal while also achieving success with Money Magnet.
How would Money Magnet fare in combating these issues? 
I am afraid I might need the focus on healing and this feels like a loss, like some part of me doesn't want to acknowledge I need the healing.

My modus operandi Is to build a title that focuses everything on that goal.  Money Magnet isn't going to do anything for emotional health, and EHPRA won't do anything for money.

Ok, thank you. I will start E6 after the 14 days of rest.

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(04-15-2024, 03:43 PM)London1 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
An important question

I'm currently about 1 month into E6 

A few days ago I came across something called Qigong distant energy healing.
There are four main weekly sessions on Wednesday nights in a one month program and daily unscheduled energy adjustments. It is not a phone or Internet session. You just get quiet during the sessions.
I purchased a month of this a few days ago because some of the reviews were astounding.

Will this healing work and E6 affect or interfere with each other in any way giving me negative/no results with either? Or can they be used together?
I'm hoping I don't have to drop one.

I know if you use two things, you wont know which one is actually having the effect. I don't care about knowing which method did it, I just want the results.

I do not know if they will conflict.  I know that E6 does influence your energy.  I am of the opinion that they should most likely not conflict.  Ben would know more about this that I would, since he's into Qi Gong and has experience using it and the subliminals.

(04-15-2024, 06:41 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-15-2024, 03:43 PM)London1 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
An important question

I'm currently about 1 month into E6 

A few days ago I came across something called Qigong distant energy healing.
There are four main weekly sessions on Wednesday nights in a one month program and daily unscheduled energy adjustments. It is not a phone or Internet session. You just get quiet during the sessions.
I purchased a month of this a few days ago because some of the reviews were astounding.

Will this healing work and E6 affect or interfere with each other in any way giving me negative/no results with either? Or can they be used together?
I'm hoping I don't have to drop one.

I know if you use two things, you wont know which one is actually having the effect. I don't care about knowing which method did it, I just want the results.

I do not know if they will conflict.  I know that E6 does influence your energy.  I am of the opinion that they should most likely not conflict.  Ben would know more about this that I would, since he's into Qi Gong and has experience using it and the subliminals.

Hmm it's hard to give a clear cut answer. The first thing is that I only have practiced Qigong myself while using subliminals, which I assume is different than distance healing.

Generally most of the time i've done Qigong and similar practices without it seeming to conflict with the subliminals, though a few times it has, I believe on DMSI it did a bit and I seemed to have been directed to stop Qigong while using it, but as far as I can remember it seemed fine with other programs.

I guess in the end is "try it and see how it goes for you".

I even felt that OGSF v2 actually lead me to find vital energy type methods to help me build my energy and I did alot of reading and tried a few things and in the end have stuck to one method, so it also may be that E6 has lead you to it to help.

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@Shannon says:

Quote:I have started seeing some really crazy results during my tests of X4A-2000. I am in the 5th or 6th week of testing, and I will most likely continue testing until the end of April, possibly to the end of May, even though I am deeply wanting to get back to Money Magnet. Because the longer I run this thing, the crazier the results get, and I have the feeling that if I use it long enough I will see results that are much crazier still.
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As usual with Premiums, this program is aimed at those who are at an advanced level of self mastery and execution with subliminals, so it is definitely not for everyone. But it is definitely living up to it's threat profile for existing committed relationships so far. I will have to shut down testing for myself if the results get too crazy and threaten my relationship, but until then, or when I am satisfied that the predicted results have resulted or will not result, I'll keep going.

We have BIATBW +/S 4G
We have AOS 4G
But isn't that what DMSI (in almost 6G) and SM (in 5G) are for?
Why the need for the new program?
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(04-17-2024, 04:47 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon says:

Quote:I have started seeing some really crazy results during my tests of X4A-2000. I am in the 5th or 6th week of testing, and I will most likely continue testing until the end of April, possibly to the end of May, even though I am deeply wanting to get back to Money Magnet. Because the longer I run this thing, the crazier the results get, and I have the feeling that if I use it long enough I will see results that are much crazier still.

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As usual with Premiums, this program is aimed at those who are at an advanced level of self mastery and execution with subliminals, so it is definitely not for everyone. But it is definitely living up to it's threat profile for existing committed relationships so far. I will have to shut down testing for myself if the results get too crazy and threaten my relationship, but until then, or when I am satisfied that the predicted results have resulted or will not result, I'll keep going.

We have BIATBW +/S 4G

We have AOS 4G

But isn't that what DMSI (in almost 6G) and SM (in 5G) are for?

Why the need for the new program?

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X4A has been out for a year, and is in it's 2nd version.  You're just asking this now?

The issue is with SM is that 5G isn't powerful enough and it's a multi-stage program that would be too expensive to upgrade at the current moment (because it will require and upgrade of AM and itself both multi-stage programs, and 5.11/6G are not simple and easy to build in, never mind multi-stage programs.

DMSI is currently in a position where it is triggering fears that most people seem to have about actually achieving sex.  I've pretty much put it down because of burnout, and because I need to try a different approach to see if that reveals anything about how to make it work better.

X4A is that alternate approach.  It strips things down to the bare essentials, and v 1xxx also attempts to make it as easy to execute and as "not scary" as possible for those who respond to DMSI with "Oh shit, I might actually get laid!" or somehow think that getting laid will get them killed.  In other words, an effort to see things from a different perspective and take a different approach to see if that sheds any light on what needs to be done with DMSI.

X4A-2xxx abandons all "training wheels".  It doesn't try to make the program as "not scary" to execute as possible, it attempts to make the user so arousing to the affected that they have to make a choice - avoid, or do something about it.  Partly because this makes for better, more obvious results, and partly because training wheels are like coddling a little boy: he's not going to grow up and become a healthy and successful man if mommy always protects him from that scary world out there and bubble wraps him so he can't make mistakes and learn from them.  The goal of the 2xxx series is to maximize the effectiveness and success of this approach as much as possible while retaining free will for both the user and those the user is affecting.  It is intentionally polarizing to the greatest degree possible, so that a choice is made, instead of the third option of "choosing to not make a decision", which is, of course, also a decision.

These are all different approaches, which all get different results and show me different facets of the situation so I learn something and am better able to make something that works in the future.  About like mapping out the facets of a polished diamond so you can know where it is, what it's shape is and how many facets it has.  Each facet tells you something about the whole, and gives more and more clues as to not just what the thing is, but how to get the results you want regarding that thing.

The idea behind X4A is to make the user very obviously sexually arousing to those who the user wants to have sex with.  They then make note of that fact, and decide what to do about it.  DMSI attempted to create intense sexual attraction and get the affected to act on that.  SM made the user a super sexual alpha, as far as it and it's technology could do so.  They all give me more data and understanding of how the human animal works regarding sex and sexuality and what triggers the copulation response without forcing it or removing free will and free choice.

By the looks of it, X4A-2000 is a good bit of the way there, and what I learn from it and later versions will very likely help me make DMSI work much better.

(04-17-2024, 10:24 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-17-2024, 04:47 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon says:




We have BIATBW +/S 4G

We have AOS 4G

But isn't that what DMSI (in almost 6G) and SM (in 5G) are for?

Why the need for the new program?

#confused

X4A has been out for a year, and is in it's 2nd version.  You're just asking this now?

The issue is with SM is that 5G isn't powerful enough and it's a multi-stage program that would be too expensive to upgrade at the current moment (because it will require and upgrade of AM and itself both multi-stage programs, and 5.11/6G are not simple and easy to build in, never mind multi-stage programs.

DMSI is currently in a position where it is triggering fears that most people seem to have about actually achieving sex.  I've pretty much put it down because of burnout, and because I need to try a different approach to see if that reveals anything about how to make it work better.

X4A is that alternate approach.  It strips things down to the bare essentials, and v 1xxx also attempts to make it as easy to execute and as "not scary" as possible for those who respond to DMSI with "Oh shit, I might actually get laid!" or somehow think that getting laid will get them killed.  In other words, an effort to see things from a different perspective and take a different approach to see if that sheds any light on what needs to be done with DMSI.

X4A-2xxx abandons all "training wheels".  It doesn't try to make the program as "not scary" to execute as possible, it attempts to make the user so arousing to the affected that they have to make a choice - avoid, or do something about it.  Partly because this makes for better, more obvious results, and partly because training wheels are like coddling a little boy: he's not going to grow up and become a healthy and successful man if mommy always protects him from that scary world out there and bubble wraps him so he can't make mistakes and learn from them.  The goal of the 2xxx series is to maximize the effectiveness and success of this approach as much as possible while retaining free will for both the user and those the user is affecting.  It is intentionally polarizing to the greatest degree possible, so that a choice is made, instead of the third option of "choosing to not make a decision", which is, of course, also a decision.

These are all different approaches, which all get different results and show me different facets of the situation so I learn something and am better able to make something that works in the future.  About like mapping out the facets of a polished diamond so you can know where it is, what it's shape is and how many facets it has.  Each facet tells you something about the whole, and gives more and more clues as to not just what the thing is, but how to get the results you want regarding that thing.

The idea behind X4A is to make the user very obviously sexually arousing to those who the user wants to have sex with.  They then make note of that fact, and decide what to do about it.  DMSI attempted to create intense sexual attraction and get the affected to act on that.  SM made the user a super sexual alpha, as far as it and it's technology could do so.  They all give me more data and understanding of how the human animal works regarding sex and sexuality and what triggers the copulation response without forcing it or removing free will and free choice.

By the looks of it, X4A-2000 is a good bit of the way there, and what I learn from it and later versions will very likely help me make DMSI work much better.

Theoretically speaking if the user isn't afraid of sex and success he can get a lot of results with DMSI and SM I assume...
Anyhow I'll have to try each one of them to understand what you are talking about. 
My experience is with my affirmations and manifestations process which helped me attract many sexual opportunities including some potentially "dangerous" ones fear wasn't an issues because it happened to me.
I created it before I was involved in the situations so to speak the script has been written and I only participated.
I'm not sure how it is different 
It was much fun and it got better as long as I continued to focus in the same direction. Some of the things that things that happened were totally crazy I could write a book.
At some point I got lazy and I wanted to manifest things unconsciously that's why I'm here

I can share 10 years ago that at first when things start to manifest and I was inexperienced and scared I didn't completely understand the whole situation and I stopped the process afraid of my own success 
But once you live it, it becomes the new norm.

(04-17-2024, 11:53 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-17-2024, 10:24 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]X4A has been out for a year, and is in it's 2nd version.  You're just asking this now?

The issue is with SM is that 5G isn't powerful enough and it's a multi-stage program that would be too expensive to upgrade at the current moment (because it will require and upgrade of AM and itself both multi-stage programs, and 5.11/6G are not simple and easy to build in, never mind multi-stage programs.

DMSI is currently in a position where it is triggering fears that most people seem to have about actually achieving sex.  I've pretty much put it down because of burnout, and because I need to try a different approach to see if that reveals anything about how to make it work better.

X4A is that alternate approach.  It strips things down to the bare essentials, and v 1xxx also attempts to make it as easy to execute and as "not scary" as possible for those who respond to DMSI with "Oh shit, I might actually get laid!" or somehow think that getting laid will get them killed.  In other words, an effort to see things from a different perspective and take a different approach to see if that sheds any light on what needs to be done with DMSI.

X4A-2xxx abandons all "training wheels".  It doesn't try to make the program as "not scary" to execute as possible, it attempts to make the user so arousing to the affected that they have to make a choice - avoid, or do something about it.  Partly because this makes for better, more obvious results, and partly because training wheels are like coddling a little boy: he's not going to grow up and become a healthy and successful man if mommy always protects him from that scary world out there and bubble wraps him so he can't make mistakes and learn from them.  The goal of the 2xxx series is to maximize the effectiveness and success of this approach as much as possible while retaining free will for both the user and those the user is affecting.  It is intentionally polarizing to the greatest degree possible, so that a choice is made, instead of the third option of "choosing to not make a decision", which is, of course, also a decision.

These are all different approaches, which all get different results and show me different facets of the situation so I learn something and am better able to make something that works in the future.  About like mapping out the facets of a polished diamond so you can know where it is, what it's shape is and how many facets it has.  Each facet tells you something about the whole, and gives more and more clues as to not just what the thing is, but how to get the results you want regarding that thing.

The idea behind X4A is to make the user very obviously sexually arousing to those who the user wants to have sex with.  They then make note of that fact, and decide what to do about it.  DMSI attempted to create intense sexual attraction and get the affected to act on that.  SM made the user a super sexual alpha, as far as it and it's technology could do so.  They all give me more data and understanding of how the human animal works regarding sex and sexuality and what triggers the copulation response without forcing it or removing free will and free choice.

By the looks of it, X4A-2000 is a good bit of the way there, and what I learn from it and later versions will very likely help me make DMSI work much better.

Theoretically speaking if the user isn't afraid of sex and success he can get a lot of results with DMSI and SM I assume...
Anyhow I'll have to try each one of them to understand what you are talking about. 
My experience is with my affirmations and manifestations process which helped me attract many sexual opportunities including some potentially "dangerous" ones fear wasn't an issues because it happened to me.
I created it before I was involved in the situations so to speak the script has been written and I only participated.
I'm not sure how it is different 
It was much fun and it got better as long as I continued to focus in the same direction. Some of the things that things that happened were totally crazy I could write a book.
At some point I got lazy and I wanted to manifest things unconsciously that's why I'm here

I can share 10 years ago that at first when things start to manifest and I was inexperienced and scared I didn't completely understand the whole situation and I stopped the process afraid of my own success 
But once you live it, it becomes the new norm.

Making things happen at the subconscious isn't always manifestation.  DMSI uses manifestation, but it's only one of the tools in the (vast) toolbox.  SM also uses manifestation, but it is there also just one of the many tools in that toolbox.  X4A makes no effort to use manifestation at all.  But working completely with the subconscious is a completely different landscape than involving the conscious mind (typically hypnosis, NLP, affirmations and afformations).  The conscious mind is a very powerful force in it's own right, and while it can be manipulated by the subconscious, it is also, in it's own ways, much stronger than the subconscious.  So it is possible to get results that way that would not happen using subliminals alone unless you clear away the subconscious fears.

The parts of the subconscious that have the most power to influence things to the goal are in many cases, the very parts that are most susceptible to fear.  Thus, we have subliminals like DMSI, where the conscious mind wants the goal, and some of the subconscious wants the goal, but the "prime mover" is afraid that it will literally get murdered if it achieves the goal or genuinely attempts to.  Impossibly ridiculous and irrational, but that's just how that part of the human awareness works.  There are things we can do, but they are slow, and so I have been working on developing ways to get past that issue for a long time.

I have personally had insanely good results on DMSI (every version I tried), SM and X4A-1000, 1511 and now even moreso with 2000.  I know others who have likewise had repeatable results on that level with each of those programs.  But most guys are for whatever reason afraid of sex, or women, or getting to sex, etc.  So we wither have to find a way past that or leave them behind.  I'd like to do both: find a way past it, and then create something that leaves them behind, which they can aspire to grow into readiness for and use eventually.

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