Subliminal Talk

By the by, I had this idea: do you guys remember X-124 and the X series of subliminal aphrodisiacs? Have you, Shannon, perhaps considered updating X-124 to the new technology? Would that be viable?

I confess I still sometimes use it and it's fun.

(03-21-2024, 09:27 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]By the by, I had this idea: do you guys remember X-124 and the X series of subliminal aphrodisiacs? Have you, Shannon, perhaps considered updating X-124 to the new technology? Would that be viable?

I confess I still sometimes use it and it's fun.

I have PSE toolkit can you tell me how do you use it and what do you feel happens?
I had a small experiment with the first volume 1 it's a silent but without noticable results (I was the only one getting distracted and had a face flush lol)

(03-20-2024, 08:56 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2024, 01:33 PM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ].....

I unfortunately no longer have the time to be as actively involved in following the forum as I would like to be, so I don't read most of the journals. 

Aggressive people tend to respond that way in the face of a self actualized man because they compare themselves to him and feel like they aren't as good, aren't good enough.  It's an external expression of an inferiority complex.  The solution is going to be to either go back to being less than self actualized, or to master self actualization to a sufficient degree.  Once you have mastered it to a sufficient degree, there is a calm stillness about you which does not trigger aggressive people.  You can just be still, and they will not feel like they are inferior.  They will tend to simply not understand you and what you represent when you get far enough, and if you simply let them go, they will.  "Nothing to see here, be on your way, I'm boring."

Unless you want to get into it with them, of course.

Mastering it enough typically means multiple run-throughs of AM v6.  It even took me more than one.

Affirmations work very differently to subliminals.  They involve the conscious mind as well as the subconscious.  The conscious mind's involvement makes the effects much more obvious (it is much "louder" in it's responses), but the affirmations will not penetrate the subconscious awareness as deeply, as permanently or as quickly as subliminals.  As a result, I suggest you do another run of AM v6 when you're finished with the first.

About an aura of dominance... auras are only one way humans communicate.  You can project an aura of whatever you want, but it will not be backed up by other forms of communication if that is not your actual natural state and it will be disregarded or disbelieved.  For example, we did an experiment several years ago in which I created a program to give a man an aura that communicated that he was a multi-millionaire in an effort to interest gold diggers and see what would happen. 

The result was that it did indeed get the attention of gold diggers (and most other people too), but they quickly concluded that the user wasn't actually a multi-millionaire because of various other factors, including:

• He wasn't acting like a multi-millionaire.
  
• He wasn't confident like a multi-millionaire.
  
• He wasn't moving (body language) like a multi-millionaire.
  
• He wasn't driving a flashy car, like most people assume a multi-millionaire would drive.
  
• He didn't smell like what she imagines a multi-millionaire would smell like.
  
• etc. etc.
  

Outcome?  He wasn't entirely congruent and therefore was considered a fake, and received scorn instead.

So if you have an aura of dominance and you're not being congruent otherwise, it's not going to help.  That's why I don't have a full line of aura generators for everything under the sun.

Thank you for your reply

Yes I understand now better
I will do another run or two in the future
I'm not afraid to jump to SM3 even if the results will not be the best before running AM6 again

First I will run OPH 5.10
Then BIABW8 then either SM or AM6

Having some results with women could make me relax a bit into another run of AM6 before going crazy with being so alone lol 

About the aure:
I ment to say that I've expected the aura of dominance AM6 has to help me deflect or not attract such situations
I mean when one has an aure of dominance it could help theoretically speaking with that problem
I don't feel any congruency problems even though I might no be aware of them
Wanting to say :
My body language and abilities were not bad before starting AM
I am not afraid to stand my ground and say what's on my mind to people
I still think I'm too nice but I'm not a hard case

Congrats, @Shannon , on the development of 5.11.4G soon. A massive achievement by the sounds of it.

Just a few questions:

1. For MEv3, are you also increasing the flaccid length and girth, as well as the erect length and girth? This is a concern for many men as well, and just wanted to clarify this.

2. Also, in a different vein...because of the time involved since the accident and that I believe MEv2 plateaued some time ago, I tried an experiment. I purchased 1 month of X4A-1511. I thought the experience could be useful to try it. Both for me, and for you given my history with attraction subs. To test myself with this kind of sub, and the new technology, to see where we're at. Felt like perfect timing.

3. Due to 5.11.4G being so much more powerful, do you feel it's worth it to make X4A-1511 in this generation? It could greatly improve the program by the sounds of your recent update about 5.11.4G. I would be willing to purchase again under that technology as your post indicates it's a big step forward.

4. Could you speak more of the aura of X4A-1511? I know I've seen wording from you about it only working in "line of sight", then other times talking about a number of feet around the user the aura only works in. But if someone can enter that area for a time, it can still affect them etc. It just seemed a bit confusing. If we could have more information on how/when the aura fires and the distance around the user it works, I'd be grateful. As it's been a bit confusing this time around, rather than just a "x feet around the user depending on how attracted you are". It seemed DMSI's aura was more clear in wording, I mean. I assume this was accidental, just wanted some clarification. Anything else you can talk about with X4A-1511 would be greatly appreciated. Seems not too many spoke of it compared to X4A-1000, sadly. Don't have as much info here to enjoy about it and learn.

Thank you for everything, Shannon. Sounds like the recent accident wasn't as severe as the previous. I'm grateful for that, I'm sure I speak for the rest of the forum on that.

(03-21-2024, 11:28 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-21-2024, 09:27 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]By the by, I had this idea: do you guys remember X-124 and the X series of subliminal aphrodisiacs? Have you, Shannon, perhaps considered updating X-124 to the new technology? Would that be viable?

I confess I still sometimes use it and it's fun.

I have POE can you tell me how do you use it and what do you feel happens?
I had a small experiment with the first volume 1 it's a silent but without noticable results (I was the only one getting distracted and had a face flush lol)

Oh it mostly makes people slightly turned on and they act thus.  I prefer using it in one-on-one settings/settings where I'm surrounded by primarily women I find interesting.

That is one of the changes I am planning to make for E7, yes. 

I have to make a couple of significant changes to the skeleton script, that being one of them, but I have to finish what I am building first.  I also can't build E7 right away.  But I am glad you're enjoying E6.  It seems to be very good and on point for most people.
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Hi Shannon, do you think it would be highly likely that you would be able to build and release E7 with DRS in the next 1-2 months?
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I do not have a stable enough situation to even guess right now.  5.11.4G will make building things faster, but right now I'm quite behind with building things that need to be built which aren't requests, such as a couple of programs that haven't been announced yet.  So I don't know.

(03-21-2024, 09:27 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]By the by, I had this idea: do you guys remember X-124 and the X series of subliminal aphrodisiacs? Have you, Shannon, perhaps considered updating X-124 to the new technology? Would that be viable?

I confess I still sometimes use it and it's fun.

X124 is a baseline type program which is difficult, if not impossible to upgrade because of what it is and how it is made.  It has however spawned a number of other aphrodisiacs, some of which you have heard of and some of which you have not.

There are aphrodisiacs coming in the future that descend from this title. 

(03-21-2024, 11:28 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-21-2024, 09:27 AM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]By the by, I had this idea: do you guys remember X-124 and the X series of subliminal aphrodisiacs? Have you, Shannon, perhaps considered updating X-124 to the new technology? Would that be viable?

I confess I still sometimes use it and it's fun.

I have PSE toolkit can you tell me how do you use it and what do you feel happens?
I had a small experiment with the first volume 1 it's a silent but without noticable results (I was the only one getting distracted and had a face flush lol)

One experiment doesn't mean you know how it works or what it does.  It will affect different people differently, and under different circumstances they will respond differently as well.  You need a lot more experience that that.  I suggest you try exposing yourself to it several more times to see if you can get used to its effects before trying to use it with someone else.

(03-21-2024, 11:35 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-20-2024, 08:56 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I unfortunately no longer have the time to be as actively involved in following the forum as I would like to be, so I don't read most of the journals. 

Aggressive people tend to respond that way in the face of a self actualized man because they compare themselves to him and feel like they aren't as good, aren't good enough.  It's an external expression of an inferiority complex.  The solution is going to be to either go back to being less than self actualized, or to master self actualization to a sufficient degree.  Once you have mastered it to a sufficient degree, there is a calm stillness about you which does not trigger aggressive people.  You can just be still, and they will not feel like they are inferior.  They will tend to simply not understand you and what you represent when you get far enough, and if you simply let them go, they will.  "Nothing to see here, be on your way, I'm boring."

Unless you want to get into it with them, of course.

Mastering it enough typically means multiple run-throughs of AM v6.  It even took me more than one.

Affirmations work very differently to subliminals.  They involve the conscious mind as well as the subconscious.  The conscious mind's involvement makes the effects much more obvious (it is much "louder" in it's responses), but the affirmations will not penetrate the subconscious awareness as deeply, as permanently or as quickly as subliminals.  As a result, I suggest you do another run of AM v6 when you're finished with the first.

About an aura of dominance... auras are only one way humans communicate.  You can project an aura of whatever you want, but it will not be backed up by other forms of communication if that is not your actual natural state and it will be disregarded or disbelieved.  For example, we did an experiment several years ago in which I created a program to give a man an aura that communicated that he was a multi-millionaire in an effort to interest gold diggers and see what would happen. 

The result was that it did indeed get the attention of gold diggers (and most other people too), but they quickly concluded that the user wasn't actually a multi-millionaire because of various other factors, including:

• He wasn't acting like a multi-millionaire.
  
• He wasn't confident like a multi-millionaire.
  
• He wasn't moving (body language) like a multi-millionaire.
  
• He wasn't driving a flashy car, like most people assume a multi-millionaire would drive.
  
• He didn't smell like what she imagines a multi-millionaire would smell like.
  
• etc. etc.
  

Outcome?  He wasn't entirely congruent and therefore was considered a fake, and received scorn instead.

So if you have an aura of dominance and you're not being congruent otherwise, it's not going to help.  That's why I don't have a full line of aura generators for everything under the sun.

Thank you for your reply

Yes I understand now better
I will do another run or two in the future
I'm not afraid to jump to SM3 even if the results will not be the best before running AM6 again

First I will run OPH 5.10
Then BIABW8 then either SM or AM6

Having some results with women could make me relax a bit into another run of AM6 before going crazy with being so alone lol 

About the aure:
I ment to say that I've expected the aura of dominance AM6 has to help me deflect or not attract such situations
I mean when one has an aure of dominance it could help theoretically speaking with that problem
I don't feel any congruency problems even though I might no be aware of them
Wanting to say :
My body language and abilities were not bad before starting AM
I am not afraid to stand my ground and say what's on my mind to people
I still think I'm too nice but I'm not a hard case

One thing I'll say... limited time right now.

If you're done using all six stages of AM v6, then you either need to use SM next, or run at least one month of Stage 7 of AM6 before SM.  It's designed to be run back to back.

(03-21-2024, 11:38 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Congrats, @Shannon , on the development of 5.11.4G soon. A massive achievement by the sounds of it.

Just a few questions:

1. For MEv3, are you also increasing the flaccid length and girth, as well as the erect length and girth? This is a concern for many men as well, and just wanted to clarify this.

It is for length. If length increases (for the right reasons), then both should increase, no?  The way the script is worded, there is no specific restriction or focus on adding thickness or proportion.  It simply adds length, and the rest should be handled automatically in response with regards to proportion.  I think this version is going to solve a significant issue the last one had, but we will have to wait and see for certain.

Quote:2. Also, in a different vein...because of the time involved since the accident and that I believe MEv2 plateaued some time ago, I tried an experiment. I purchased 1 month of X4A-1511. I thought the experience could be useful to try it. Both for me, and for you given my history with attraction subs. To test myself with this kind of sub, and the new technology, to see where we're at. Felt like perfect timing.

3. Due to 5.11.4G being so much more powerful, do you feel it's worth it to make X4A-1511 in this generation? It could greatly improve the program by the sounds of your recent update about 5.11.4G. I would be willing to purchase again under that technology as your post indicates it's a big step forward.

X4A-1511 is the one and only build of X4A that will be done in 5.11G that descends from the 1xxx branch of the script.  I am currently testing X4A-2000, which is also 5.11G, but is from the 2xxx branch of the script.  If this program passes testing, it will be a premium.  If not, it will probably not be published, and I will begin working on X4A-3000, the 3xxx branch.  However, X4A-1xxx has one more build coming, in 6G, for a title that will be named X4A-1600.

Quote:4. Could you speak more of the aura of X4A-1511? I know I've seen wording from you about it only working in "line of sight", then other times talking about a number of feet around the user the aura only works in. But if someone can enter that area for a time, it can still affect them etc. It just seemed a bit confusing. If we could have more information on how/when the aura fires and the distance around the user it works, I'd be grateful. As it's been a bit confusing this time around, rather than just a "x feet around the user depending on how attracted you are". It seemed DMSI's aura was more clear in wording, I mean. I assume this was accidental, just wanted some clarification. Anything else you can talk about with X4A-1511 would be greatly appreciated. Seems not too many spoke of it compared to X4A-1000, sadly. Don't have as much info here to enjoy about it and learn.

The aura is always there, with and without X4A.  It is your natural energy field, only specially modulated by X4A to accomplish the special goals of the program.  The aura itself is always on (because it's your natural energy field, only modulated) and it is modulated for as long as you are using the program.  So anyone entering your aura while you use the program will experience its effects, according to if they are female and of legal age of sexual consent.  I have tried to limit it to those things, but it may be possible that underage females can still be affected, so be careful there.

The "snipers" fire whenever you are within sight of a female you want to have sex with, who is one of the three females you most want to have sex with, and who is over the legal age of sexual consent.  You may or may not feel that.  However, if she gets a connection via the sniper, and you have enough energy, she will feel it.

Quote:Thank you for everything, Shannon. Sounds like the recent accident wasn't as severe as the previous. I'm grateful for that, I'm sure I speak for the rest of the forum on that.

Thank you.  I don't think it was as detrimental to my brain as the previous one was, but I'm not so sure my back liked it much.  I already had injuries from the first accident developing there and this seems to have made them rather more obvious.  But I will make it through.

(03-23-2024, 12:03 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-21-2024, 11:35 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]Thank you for your reply



Yes I understand now better

I will do another run or two in the future

I'm not afraid to jump to SM3 even if the results will not be the best before running AM6 again



First I will run OPH 5.10

Then BIABW8 then either SM or AM6



Having some results with women could make me relax a bit into another run of AM6 before going crazy with being so alone lol 



About the aure:

I ment to say that I've expected the aura of dominance AM6 has to help me deflect or not attract such situations

I mean when one has an aure of dominance it could help theoretically speaking with that problem

I don't feel any congruency problems even though I might no be aware of them

Wanting to say :

My body language and abilities were not bad before starting AM

I am not afraid to stand my ground and say what's on my mind to people

I still think I'm too nice but I'm not a hard case

One thing I'll say... limited time right now.



If you're done using all six stages of AM v6, then you either need to use SM next, or run at least one month of Stage 7 of AM6 before SM.  It's designed to be run back to back.

Thank you for your advice. I have a few questions to clarify:

If I've completed all six stages of AM v6, is it essential to run Stage 7 for a month before starting SM, or can I directly transition to SM after completing the six stages?

Regarding OPH 5.10, can I use it for a few months and then move on to the Refresher of AM6 for a month before starting SM3? Will it be suffice?

As I understand, Stage 6 of AM6 includes a manifestation script that could benefit SM3, but is it critical to run them back to back for the effectiveness of SM3?

So, am I in a position where I can't wait? is it advisable to jump straight into SM3, with the only decision being whether to run the Refresher of AM6 or not? Or maybe I shouldn't even run the Refresher?

I appreciate your guidance and look forward to your response

I didn't know about your accidents
I hope you'll heal fast and wish you to be well and strong!

(03-23-2024, 12:37 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-23-2024, 12:03 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]One thing I'll say... limited time right now.







If you're done using all six stages of AM v6, then you either need to use SM next, or run at least one month of Stage 7 of AM6 before SM.  It's designed to be run back to back.

Thank you for your advice. I have a few questions to clarify:



If I've completed all six stages of AM v6, is it essential to run Stage 7 for a month before starting SM, or can I directly transition to SM after completing the six stages?

Once you've run through all six stages of AM6, you have a approximately a month in which to start SM.  The alternatives are A) you'll need to either re-run the six stages, which some people do if they don't think they've gotten everything out of them yet, or B) run at least a month of Stage 7.  

Quote:Regarding OPH 5.10, can I use it for a few months and then move on to the Refresher of AM6 for a month before starting SM3? Will it be suffice?

That's fine.

Quote:As I understand, Stage 6 of AM6 includes a manifestation script that could benefit SM3, but is it critical to run them back to back for the effectiveness of SM3?

Stage 7 includes Stage 6, so you'll get that from both re-running all six stages or running a month of Stage 7 first.

Quote:So, am I in a position where I can't wait? is it advisable to jump straight into SM3, with the only decision being whether to run the Refresher of AM6 or not? Or maybe I shouldn't even run the Refresher?

I appreciate your guidance and look forward to your response

You can wait.  I tried to make the program design be as flexible as possible for users so they could use it as was most convenient for them, whether that meant running it back to back or not.

Quote:I didn't know about your accidents
I hope you'll heal fast and wish you to be well and strong!

Thank you.  I only mention my accidents here to let people know when I will not be able to keep up the pace of work I typically have.

(03-21-2024, 11:38 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]For MEv3, are you also increasing the flaccid length and girth, as well as the erect length and girth? This is a concern for many men as well, and just wanted to clarify this.

Shannon: It is for length. If length increases (for the right reasons), then both should increase, no?  The way the script is worded, there is no specific restriction or focus on adding thickness or proportion.  It simply adds length, and the rest should be handled automatically in response with regards to proportion.  I think this version is going to solve a significant issue the last one had, but we will have to wait and see for certain.



I was under the impression we are only doing length+girth, not length only anymore which was a relief. See, the way it sounds, it's like just "adding something onto the end of a cylindrical object", do you follow me? So, in such a case, the girth would not appear to be affected because you only added onto the end. So scripting specifically only for length, I feel would only add the length. Seems concerning now because I don't want anything out of proportion and wanted to add girth as well. Any clarification would be appreciated here. 

Have waited a long time for this sub, sadly MEv2 didn't seem to get us over the hump, whatever it is, and seemed to be hitting a brick wall forever. I used it long term too to really give it a chance to push through. Now maybe this one will!

On the subject of X4A-1511 again, is there a number of feet around the user for the aura? Or is it literally the girl's "line of sight"? Also, is it true that it appears to have a cumulative effect with women? That's fascinating, I know you said it wasn't intended but seems to make sense given the script. Any info on this would be great. Seems like such an interesting program, Shannon. I'm very curious about it, I have about two more weeks of this one month subscription to continue testing it out.

(03-23-2024, 10:40 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-21-2024, 11:38 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]For MEv3, are you also increasing the flaccid length and girth, as well as the erect length and girth? This is a concern for many men as well, and just wanted to clarify this.

Shannon: It is for length. If length increases (for the right reasons), then both should increase, no?  The way the script is worded, there is no specific restriction or focus on adding thickness or proportion.  It simply adds length, and the rest should be handled automatically in response with regards to proportion.  I think this version is going to solve a significant issue the last one had, but we will have to wait and see for certain.



I was under the impression we are only doing length+girth, not length only anymore which was a relief. See, the way it sounds, it's like just "adding something onto the end of a cylindrical object", do you follow me? So, in such a case, the girth would not appear to be affected because you only added onto the end. So scripting specifically only for length, I feel would only add the length. Seems concerning now because I don't want anything out of proportion and wanted to add girth as well. Any clarification would be appreciated here. 

So I'm beginning to remember why you have so much trouble with subs... you are absolutely terrified at the subconscious level.  That means you're going to focus on every little thing looking for the result and fearing it won't happen, which will tend to interfere with the result you are looking for by creating the result of the fear (it won't happen) instead.  You need to try to chill on that.

The next thing is, because of your fears, you're trying to figure out how it could work and assuming your conclusion is correct, which then forms a channel that restricts the result to whatever your conscious mind has come up with, which is in this case entirely incorrect.  So you would then tend to shut down the result because it doesn't follow your expected result as a result of your conscious efforts to classify how based on that subconscious fear.

To clarify, your body will not be "adding something onto the end of a cylindrical object".  The way tissue grows is very different from that.  All of the cells divide, and not just the ones at one end.  They will divide faster or slower and if they safely divide fast enough for a certain period of time, you will get growth. 

If I specify length only, then the tendency will be for length to be the focus, but that does not prevent girth.  It also doesn't encourage it.  What should happen is that based on the wording in the script, it should grow in the ways that support the length as it would have when you were originally developing.

It is ironic that you're trying to use logic to understand something that is being handled by the irrational subconscious, and then you say that you conclude that you "feel" that it would only add length, indicating that your efforts at logic are based in feelings of fear.

Let me make this black and white for you, to help you let go of the fear.

It will either work, or will not work.  In either case, there's at least one more version coming in 6G.  In this version, we will discover whether the issue was the "power" level of the program.  If it was, then the program will work; if not, it won't.  In either case, we learn something that helps the next version achieve the goal.

Quote:Have waited a long time for this sub, sadly MEv2 didn't seem to get us over the hump, whatever it is, and seemed to be hitting a brick wall forever. I used it long term too to really give it a chance to push through. Now maybe this one will!

Maybe.  But I wonder if this isn't why you had DMSI fail for you, instead of DMSI not working.  Is it possible that you didn't allow it to work because you would be vulnerable to criticism of your penis size by women?  This really makes me think you've been criticized this way before in a way that was deeply painful and humiliating for you, and I understand fully the fear that can result in.  But the better I understand why you feel this fear, the better I can work with it.

Quote:On the subject of X4A-1511 again, is there a number of feet around the user for the aura? Or is it literally the girl's "line of sight"? Also, is it true that it appears to have a cumulative effect with women? That's fascinating, I know you said it wasn't intended but seems to make sense given the script. Any info on this would be great. Seems like such an interesting program, Shannon. I'm very curious about it, I have about two more weeks of this one month subscription to continue testing it out.

The aura, your personal energy field, is variable in size depending on your energy levels, and your emotional state, mental state, levels of arousal, anger, etc.  It also depends to some degree on the physical body size.  It seems to range from between ~1-2 feet in one or multiple simultaneous extreme negative circumstances (very low blood sugar, complete exhaustion, extremely sick, etc.) to ~20-25 feet under equally extreme favorable conditions (perfect health, extremely high levels of energy, highly powered aura, energy overload, etc.), with the average seemingly ranging from between ~5 and ~12 feet.  For me personally, the range appears to be consistently ~12 feet.

The line of sight is going to be not for who is affected necessarily.  It is for who can be affected.  If you see any woman you want to have sex with, who is one of the top three women you want to have sex with who is within sight, and she is of at least the legal age of sexual consent, then she will be sniped.  As such, you will develop an "auric tendril", which will connect to her personal energy field and transfer the same energy she would experience if she was standing within your aura, but it will be intensified and focused according to how much you want to have sex with her in order to allow you to communicate more obviously with her what your aura would be communicating with her.  This auric tendril will form and connect to her whether she is already within your natural aura or not, and whether you are viewing her in person or not.

The effect of exposure is cumulative, since what you're doing is communicating to her what you're feeling and wanting in ways that are acceptable for her.  Over time, more communication in this manner is more and more effective for getting her to understand what is being communicated and having her be more and more aware of and likely to respond to and act on that communication.

The form of communication I am using is very different from anything you are likely to understand as communication, but that's essentially what it is.

What results are you seeing on yourself and on those you're interested in?