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(07-14-2024, 12:45 PM)Ampersnd Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-14-2024, 10:58 AM)Sir Ovaltine Jenkins III Wrote: [ -> ]@Ampersnd  Not Shannon haha, but I believe I can hopefully answer your question.

These OFSG aspects of the script that EHPRA contains aren’t the same script as OFSG V2.  EHPRA’s OFSG version is taken from the 5G script (I believe that was used in the original EHPRA program) which was then updated to 5.11G so while it is focusing on fear shame and guilt it’s not doing so in the same way as the actual OFSG V2 program since the two scripts are very different from one another. 

I’ve done a run through of OFSG V2 and I’m doing EHPRA right now and I would say it’s definitely worth it to do them both as like Shannon said, EHPRA can be thought of as the foundation for the other two programs to really build upon within this trilogy. 

I hope this at least somewhat helps, I’m sure @Shannon could go into much greater depth here but to the best of my understanding this is how the two programs are complimentary to one another.

Oh, perfect. That's the level of answer that I was looking for. That makes sense. The 5G version upscaled to 5.11G is a different script to the original V2 that is 5.11G.

That's pretty much the answer.  Smile  Much different and much more advanced script with a lot more focus in the stand alone OGSF series.
Hey Shannon

Has something happening to SARM?!?! I tried to resubscribe yesterday and it is no where on the store page.
Hey @Shannon , I hope the process to release X4A-2000 is proceeding well.

Congrats on the certainty of the release. Hope the soon-to-be-calculated price and sales are solid, congrats on another step towards 6G releasing.

Sounds it may be an interesting step forward. Shame there isn't a ton of info on the X4A's. Looking forward to reading 2000's novel-length description, haha.
(07-14-2024, 09:49 PM)brightike Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon

Has something happening to SARM?!?! I tried to resubscribe yesterday and it is no where on the store page.

I took that down to do some maintenance and forgot to re-enable it.  It's up now.  My apologies.
(07-14-2024, 11:50 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hey @Shannon , I hope the process to release X4A-2000 is proceeding well.

Congrats on the certainty of the release. Hope the soon-to-be-calculated price and sales are solid, congrats on another step towards 6G releasing.

Sounds it may be an interesting step forward. Shame there isn't a ton of info on the X4A's. Looking forward to reading 2000's novel-length description, haha.

The process to release X4A-2000 is becoming ever more chaotic and fragmented, which, now that I understand what is going on, is fully to be expected.  Today's meeting to enable it never even happened, and needs to be re-scheduled.

I am also unable to get a consistent answer from the models from day to day regarding this program, and everything I have attempted is failing to improve the situation.  This is at this point out of my hands, and all I can do is wait and see how things play out.  I'm hoping this gets resolved soon, but until at least two things happen, I cannot release this program, and the first one was this meeting scheduled for today.

As a backup, I am working on a new aphrodisiac that uses a completely new approach to triggering arousal and interest.  Something I have had in mind to do for years now, but somehow never had the time when I remembered, and never remembered when I had the time.  So worst case scenario we get a new aphrodisiac, but not X4A-200 this month.  I think a lot of you will find this program veeeery interesting. But there is still time for things to change, so hold tight.
To me, personally, the newfangled aphrodisiac sounds more enticing than X4A-2000!

Sounds like you could even use it together with one of the X4A programs (not at the same time, of course). Feasible?
(07-16-2024, 02:00 PM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]To me, personally, the newfangled aphrodisiac sounds more enticing than X4A-2000!

Sounds like you could even use it together with one of the X4A programs (not at the same time, of course). Feasible?

Which is more interesting depends on your particular situation, needs and desires.  But you cannot use them together.  Using the new one (ESPA) requires that you be present to be the one she responds to, and that would mean that even though it's designed to only affect females, it will be disrupting X4A running in your head.  And take it from me, the tester who was responsible for overload testing X4A-2000 absolutely did not have fun testing that particular task.

If you have the right women and the right circumstances, ESPA is a good choice.  X4A-2000 is a whole different ball game, being an Indirect Exposure Aphrodisiac, and it takes a lot longer to work, but is much better for certain situations, goals and women.  There is a reason it is a Premium, while ESPA is not.

If you are patient, and you like what X4A-1xxx does, X4A-2000.  If not, ESPA or another Direct Exposure Aphrodisiac.

X4A-2000 is likely to result in not just sex, but a relationship including sex; ESPA is likely to relatively rapidly result in one or more females trying to find ways to seduce you into raw sex.

EDIT: Just realized, X4A-2000 gives you massive social proof also, but in a completely different way.  It's internal, being highly sexually charged energy, vs the external of ESPA communicating that other women are extremely interested.
Will you ever upgrade UH do you think? A very underrated sub imo
(07-16-2024, 05:00 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-16-2024, 02:00 PM)Have at ye Wrote: [ -> ]To me, personally, the newfangled aphrodisiac sounds more enticing than X4A-2000!

Sounds like you could even use it together with one of the X4A programs (not at the same time, of course). Feasible?

Which is more interesting depends on your particular situation, needs and desires.  But you cannot use them together.  Using the new one (ESPA) requires that you be present to be the one she responds to, and that would mean that even though it's designed to only affect females, it will be disrupting X4A running in your head.  And take it from me, the tester who was responsible for overload testing X4A-2000 absolutely did not have fun testing that particular task.

If you have the right women and the right circumstances, ESPA is a good choice.  X4A-2000 is a whole different ball game, being an Indirect Exposure Aphrodisiac, and it takes a lot longer to work, but is much better for certain situations, goals and women.  There is a reason it is a Premium, while ESPA is not.

If you are patient, and you like what X4A-1xxx does, X4A-2000.  If not, ESPA or another Direct Exposure Aphrodisiac.

X4A-2000 is likely to result in not just sex, but a relationship including sex; ESPA is likely to relatively rapidly result in one or more females trying to find ways to seduce you into raw sex.

EDIT: Just realized, X4A-2000 gives you massive social proof also, but in a completely different way.  It's internal, being highly sexually charged energy, vs the external of ESPA communicating that other women are extremely interested.

That explains a lot, thanks. I'd be willing to give these new Direct Exposure Aphrodisiacs a shot.
@Shannon I have a question about how to use your subliminals effectively. Do you think it’s better to use dedicated healing/clearing subs in combination with all in one subs like AM or UMS or LTU?

I’m thinking that just using the all in ones can get you there, but at some point not all of the resources are going to be used effectively since the healing/clearing won’t have all of the focus and if you’re not ready, the other stuff will just be a waste of resources.

For example in AM maybe it’s trying to focus on your self esteem, but it can only go so far since you have blockages that only allow for a certain amount of progress at that time. Whereas if you had used EPHRA or OGSF before you would get more mileage out of AM instead of just the healing/clearing modules that would (presumably) only be getting part of the focus and other modules might be wasting resources since they can’t operate at their best since the user hasn’t healed/cleared enough.

All that doesn’t matter if the way you make your subliminals have resource management to avoid this or something similar. Or I could be seeing the problem wrong or not know something you do. Maybe the way everything works is synergistic such that this problem doesn’t happen or something.
(07-17-2024, 12:55 AM)callie Wrote: [ -> ]Will you ever upgrade UH do you think? A very underrated sub imo

I had actually concluded that UH was not worth upgrading because it wasn't flexible enough.  To achieve certain goals with physical healing, there was the possibility of too much emotional healing focus, and vice versa.  But I can consider it if it is something you think is worth while.
(07-17-2024, 12:11 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I have a question about how to use your subliminals effectively. Do you think it’s better to use dedicated healing/clearing subs in combination with all in one subs like AM or UMS or LTU?

I’m thinking that just using the all in ones can get you there, but at some point not all of the resources are going to be used effectively since the healing/clearing won’t have all of the focus and if you’re not ready, the other stuff will just be a waste of resources.

For example in AM maybe it’s trying to focus on your self esteem, but it can only go so far since you have blockages that only allow for a certain amount of progress at that time. Whereas if you had used EPHRA or OGSF before you would get more mileage out of AM instead of just the healing/clearing modules that would (presumably) only be getting part of the focus and other modules might be wasting resources since they can’t operate at their best since the user hasn’t healed/cleared enough.

All that doesn’t matter if the way you make your subliminals have resource management to avoid this or something similar. Or I could be seeing the problem wrong or not know something you do. Maybe the way everything works is synergistic such that this problem doesn’t happen or something.

Keep in mind that AM6 attempts to do healing and clearing, to a degree, but is 12 years old and built in 5G.  In the last 12 years, and sometimes directly as a result of what AM6 could not accomplish, a lot has changed and I have learned a great deal. 

Generally speaking it is a very good idea to use EHPRA and/or (depending on your time, needs and patience) OGSF before running AM6.  It will significantly speed up the success rate of AM6.
(07-17-2024, 12:59 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-17-2024, 12:11 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I have a question about how to use your subliminals effectively. Do you think it’s better to use dedicated healing/clearing subs in combination with all in one subs like AM or UMS or LTU?

I’m thinking that just using the all in ones can get you there, but at some point not all of the resources are going to be used effectively since the healing/clearing won’t have all of the focus and if you’re not ready, the other stuff will just be a waste of resources.

For example in AM maybe it’s trying to focus on your self esteem, but it can only go so far since you have blockages that only allow for a certain amount of progress at that time. Whereas if you had used EPHRA or OGSF before you would get more mileage out of AM instead of just the healing/clearing modules that would (presumably) only be getting part of the focus and other modules might be wasting resources since they can’t operate at their best since the user hasn’t healed/cleared enough.

All that doesn’t matter if the way you make your subliminals have resource management to avoid this or something similar. Or I could be seeing the problem wrong or not know something you do. Maybe the way everything works is synergistic such that this problem doesn’t happen or something.

Keep in mind that AM6 attempts to do healing and clearing, to a degree, but is 12 years old and built in 5G.  In the last 12 years, and sometimes directly as a result of what AM6 could not accomplish, a lot has changed and I have learned a great deal. 

Generally speaking it is a very good idea to use EHPRA and/or (depending on your time, needs and patience) OGSF before running AM6.  It will significantly speed up the success rate of AM6.

I think Frosted is asking about a scenario where all tech is equal (i.e. 6g).
(07-17-2024, 04:06 PM)NOMAD Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-17-2024, 12:59 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Keep in mind that AM6 attempts to do healing and clearing, to a degree, but is 12 years old and built in 5G.  In the last 12 years, and sometimes directly as a result of what AM6 could not accomplish, a lot has changed and I have learned a great deal. 

Generally speaking it is a very good idea to use EHPRA and/or (depending on your time, needs and patience) OGSF before running AM6.  It will significantly speed up the success rate of AM6.

I think Frosted is asking about a scenario where all tech is equal (i.e. 6g).

Yes thank you NOMAD, that was more in line with what I meant.

My question is born out of my increasing awareness of my own death and limited time (really all of us are in the same boat). I’m trying to find the fastest long term path, but also could see the all in one type programs being fast enough due to the nature of synergy and exponential growth. So I’m not sure what amounts of breadth and depth are optimal and I’m curious if you have any thoughts on this, Shannon.