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(08-18-2024, 08:40 PM)callie Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon, I need your help. Lately, I’ve been waking up from the most horrible dreams, drenched with my heart pounding out of my chest. Afterward, I can’t sleep for the rest of the night. Been sleep deprived for a while and I feel more closed off emotionally after these dreams. On most days I feel very tired without being able to relax into it, I’m too tense and blocked off

Could this be a sign that I’m pacing too fast, do I need to change something? I’m using E6 exactly as instructed with ultrasonic on an iPhone

What time of day do you listen to the program each day you listen?
(08-18-2024, 09:49 PM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]What is the difference between EHPRA 5.75 vs 5.11 when it comes to results?
I mean can I use 5.75 with amazing results and not worry about it? Or what will I lose not using 5.11 let's say I execute 5.75 ...

Also I guess I need to take time off before I start with E
How long do I need to wait?

Of course only if you say it's the right move.
I'm not going to do anything that is not recommended

Also let's say I start with E5.75 can I jump on E5.11 if I'd like after 1/2 months?
I want some flexibility with my runs..

Ps
I'm still thinking maybe if I finish this run and use Stage7 after something might happen

If you're stonewalling, that's not a good sign.  It means that script is triggering major fears and the technology isn't powerful enough to sufficiently work you past them.  You'll need to use something that can work you through the issue. 

E5 and E6 are very different because the technology development between them is vastly different.  It's not apparently how big a deal the difference is because the point values after the major number are usually associated with minor releases.  But the numbers after the major number - .75.3 in the case of E5 and .11 in the case of E6 - are actually eight (8!) generations of technology apart.  And I don't start building in a new generation until I have major changes and improvements to make.

I made E5 free because I don't want you to think I'm just trying to sell you more stuff.  It is a great program, and sold well for years at $240 a copy, IIRC.  But it's not 5.11G, and it will be slower, less powerful, less effective, less optimized and less easy to handle.  If you don't want to spend more money because you haven't gotten good results so far, I totally get it, and in that case I recommend E5.

If, on the other hand, you don't mind spending more money and you value your time and want this to be as easy a journey as possible, then E6 is more thn worth the price.  As you have seen multiple others testify.

But you have to finish what you start.  Jumping around is not going to solve your problem.  Pick one course of action and stick with it to the end.  The only reason I am willing to let you off the hook with finishing SM3 is because you're stonewalling.  Flexibility isn't what you want here.  It's results.  And you don't get results by not following the instructions, or jumping around.
(08-19-2024, 08:12 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]When having sex with my gf the other week she said "your c__ feels bigger.  Are you doing exercises?"

This shocked me and surprised me that she would say this.  I didn't reply I just ignored the comment obviously I didn't tell her what i'm doing (listening to this sub).  I have been running ME for a while.  

I also have noticed it is "hanging" more when flaccid so this seems to tell me that flaccid has also grown.

Just for transparency reasons I am also taking a natural herb which helps fight the issues many men have (libido, erection quality, low testosterone etc) but it's not one of those penis growth pills which the product description said to avoid.

I am only listening to 1 hour a day as instructions say.  I can honestly feel that it is working but it has taken a while.  It took many months of the old version which didn't seem to do anything plus the current version to finally see results.  

Even though it seems to be working now (slowly) I do hope Shannon makes it in 6g for a lower listening time and hopefully faster results.  I'm hoping he will rebuild the length + girth version.

I'm thankful to Shannon for providing the discount for those that bought the old version to buy this new version.

I have 2 more months to do the full run through and i'll report back.

The amount of time a subliminal is used for has nothing to do with what I want.  It is whatever comes out of the models that balances the rest of the subliminal's parameters to achieve the best results.

I am pleased to hear you're starting to get results.
(08-19-2024, 09:54 AM)MrGnome Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon,

I was wondering since EHPRA and OGSF are part of AM6.

Would SD become a part of AM7 as well?

First, don't assume that EHPRA or OGSF would be included in AM7.

Second, I don't believe that OGSF isn't in AM6.  It was Overcoming Fear.

Self Development isn't going to be included in AM7.  

AM7 is about becoming a Transcendent Alpha.  If you're not ready for that, then you need to run the stuff that makes you ready before hand.
(08-19-2024, 11:06 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-18-2024, 08:40 PM)callie Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon, I need your help. Lately, I’ve been waking up from the most horrible dreams, drenched with my heart pounding out of my chest. Afterward, I can’t sleep for the rest of the night. Been sleep deprived for a while and I feel more closed off emotionally after these dreams. On most days I feel very tired without being able to relax into it, I’m too tense and blocked off

Could this be a sign that I’m pacing too fast, do I need to change something? I’m using E6 exactly as instructed with ultrasonic on an iPhone

What time of day do you listen to the program each day you listen?

When I wake up. It honestly doesn't have much to do with when I use the sub. Even on my days off, those dreams can still occur 

By the last few days on my off days, the tension in my head usually subsides, and I start feeling really tired. This is actually a good thing, as it allows me to sleep properly with no nightmares for at least one or two days until next cycle begins
(08-19-2024, 12:14 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-18-2024, 09:49 PM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]What is the difference between EHPRA 5.75 vs 5.11 when it comes to results?
I mean can I use 5.75 with amazing results and not worry about it? Or what will I lose not using 5.11 let's say I execute 5.75 ...

Also I guess I need to take time off before I start with E
How long do I need to wait?

Of course only if you say it's the right move.
I'm not going to do anything that is not recommended

Also let's say I start with E5.75 can I jump on E5.11 if I'd like after 1/2 months?
I want some flexibility with my runs..

Ps
I'm still thinking maybe if I finish this run and use Stage7 after something might happen

If all you care about is getting women then you may be better off with something like DMSI or X4A. You don’t necessarily need to worry about healing unless you care about your long term inner and outer stability and quality of results.

I haven’t used EPHRA 5.75G, but I have used 5.75G. 5.75G works great, but the difference between 5.75G and 5.11G is night and day. To me I’d rather spend the 450 dollars and get way better results in less time. I remember you expressing your impatience about your age and the results you want, so I would say spend the money if you can afford it. Money is replaceable, time is not.

EHPRA 5.11G is a product I can recommend wholeheartedly. It can be an unforgiving sub though so keep that in mind. It’s not for someone who isn’t committed to real transformation that can be painful at times. You’ll likely doubt if it’s worth continuing while running it because you’re paying the price up front for the reward on the backend. Most great things in life are like that, I’ve noticed.

(08-19-2024, 11:14 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-18-2024, 09:49 PM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]What is the difference between EHPRA 5.75 vs 5.11 when it comes to results?
I mean can I use 5.75 with amazing results and not worry about it? Or what will I lose not using 5.11 let's say I execute 5.75 ...

Also I guess I need to take time off before I start with E
How long do I need to wait?

Of course only if you say it's the right move.
I'm not going to do anything that is not recommended

Also let's say I start with E5.75 can I jump on E5.11 if I'd like after 1/2 months?
I want some flexibility with my runs..

Ps
I'm still thinking maybe if I finish this run and use Stage7 after something might happen

If you're stonewalling, that's not a good sign.  It means that script is triggering major fears and the technology isn't powerful enough to sufficiently work you past them.  You'll need to use something that can work you through the issue. 

E5 and E6 are very different because the technology development between them is vastly different.  It's not apparently how big a deal the difference is because the point values after the major number are usually associated with minor releases.  But the numbers after the major number - .75.3 in the case of E5 and .11 in the case of E6 - are actually eight (8!) generations of technology apart.  And I don't start building in a new generation until I have major changes and improvements to make.

I made E5 free because I don't want you to think I'm just trying to sell you more stuff.  It is a great program, and sold well for years at $240 a copy, IIRC.  But it's not 5.11G, and it will be slower, less powerful, less effective, less optimized and less easy to handle.  If you don't want to spend more money because you haven't gotten good results so far, I totally get it, and in that case I recommend E5.

If, on the other hand, you don't mind spending more money and you value your time and want this to be as easy a journey as possible, then E6 is more thn worth the price.  As you have seen multiple others testify.

But you have to finish what you start.  Jumping around is not going to solve your problem.  Pick one course of action and stick with it to the end.  The only reason I am willing to let you off the hook with finishing SM3 is because you're stonewalling.  Flexibility isn't what you want here.  It's results.  And you don't get results by not following the instructions, or jumping around.

So because I'm stonewalling the suggestion is to stop SM3 and do E5/6.

How long should I wait before starting?

I think E would be better than letting go of fear shame and guilt because I probably have some traumas to deal with and general mental issues I'm not calm.
I think E can make the user calmer? And it's more general
Yes I have fear too I guess I'm not completely fearless 

So I don't know which one would be better to run

Anyway I need instructions on how long to wait between stoping and starting something else.
@Shannon Do you think it would be better if I avoided giving unsolicited advice in your journal? I feel like some things can be valuable coming from a customers perspective, but I might be ignoring etiquette. I’d rather not give advice if it’s not productive.
(08-19-2024, 12:01 PM)callie Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-19-2024, 11:06 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]What time of day do you listen to the program each day you listen?

When I wake up. It honestly doesn't have much to do with when I use the sub. Even on my days off, those dreams can still occur 

By the last few days on my off days, the tension in my head usually subsides, and I start feeling really tired. This is actually a good thing, as it allows me to sleep properly with no nightmares for at least one or two days until next cycle begins

I ask when it happens because it means something very different if it's happening when you use it after waking up vs before or while sleeping.

At this point, my best advice is that subliminals are not the right path for you, and that you need to seek professional psychological assistance to determine what your root issue(s) are and how best to deal with them.  I don't think self help is your best bet, given this response and your history.
(08-19-2024, 12:12 PM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-19-2024, 12:14 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]If all you care about is getting women then you may be better off with something like DMSI or X4A. You don’t necessarily need to worry about healing unless you care about your long term inner and outer stability and quality of results.

I haven’t used EPHRA 5.75G, but I have used 5.75G. 5.75G works great, but the difference between 5.75G and 5.11G is night and day. To me I’d rather spend the 450 dollars and get way better results in less time. I remember you expressing your impatience about your age and the results you want, so I would say spend the money if you can afford it. Money is replaceable, time is not.

EHPRA 5.11G is a product I can recommend wholeheartedly. It can be an unforgiving sub though so keep that in mind. It’s not for someone who isn’t committed to real transformation that can be painful at times. You’ll likely doubt if it’s worth continuing while running it because you’re paying the price up front for the reward on the backend. Most great things in life are like that, I’ve noticed.

(08-19-2024, 11:14 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If you're stonewalling, that's not a good sign.  It means that script is triggering major fears and the technology isn't powerful enough to sufficiently work you past them.  You'll need to use something that can work you through the issue. 

E5 and E6 are very different because the technology development between them is vastly different.  It's not apparently how big a deal the difference is because the point values after the major number are usually associated with minor releases.  But the numbers after the major number - .75.3 in the case of E5 and .11 in the case of E6 - are actually eight (8!) generations of technology apart.  And I don't start building in a new generation until I have major changes and improvements to make.

I made E5 free because I don't want you to think I'm just trying to sell you more stuff.  It is a great program, and sold well for years at $240 a copy, IIRC.  But it's not 5.11G, and it will be slower, less powerful, less effective, less optimized and less easy to handle.  If you don't want to spend more money because you haven't gotten good results so far, I totally get it, and in that case I recommend E5.

If, on the other hand, you don't mind spending more money and you value your time and want this to be as easy a journey as possible, then E6 is more thn worth the price.  As you have seen multiple others testify.

But you have to finish what you start.  Jumping around is not going to solve your problem.  Pick one course of action and stick with it to the end.  The only reason I am willing to let you off the hook with finishing SM3 is because you're stonewalling.  Flexibility isn't what you want here.  It's results.  And you don't get results by not following the instructions, or jumping around.

So because I'm stonewalling the suggestion is to stop SM3 and do E5/6.

How long should I wait before starting?

I think E would be better than letting go of fear shame and guilt because I probably have some traumas to deal with and general mental issues I'm not calm.
I think E can make the user calmer? And it's more general
Yes I have fear too I guess I'm not completely fearless 

So I don't know which one would be better to run

Anyway I need instructions on how long to wait between stoping and starting something else.

If you change subliminals, for moving on from 5G, wait a week or two and then start the next program.
(08-19-2024, 12:23 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Do you think it would be better if I avoided giving unsolicited advice in your journal? I feel like some things can be valuable coming from a customers perspective, but I might be ignoring etiquette. I’d rather not give advice if it’s not productive.

Advice is as welcome as it is helpful and useful.  What I don't want is people advising things that are potentially harmful or damaging.  It's not about etiquette, it's about the goal of this forum, which is to be helpful.
(08-17-2024, 01:06 PM)Vehe Wrote: [ -> ] 
In this industry, if you are really that good, or have potential to be so, you are offered a deal you can’t refuse. If you don’t play ball, you are usually framed and killed with the intent to steal all your work during the investigation. This is what they tried to do to me. One of their agents seduced a female two floors below mine and once they got access to that apartment, they used their most effective military M.K tech on me. My smartphone became the weapon. I close my eyes. A few seconds later, I was in a sort of hybrid between extremely deep hypnosis and a near death experience. This is basically alien tech for all intents and purposes. There is nothing in this world that resembles the experience. Every second gone by I was going to depths of my mind that I didn’t even know existed, nothing else existed except the instruction… no body… no future… no past… no nothing… visuals were kicking in which should be impossible because I lost my visual imagination when I was a child… They make you go through your mission in your head and your mind cannot differentiate between it and the real thing. The mission being: the killing of your loved one (they are this evil) followed by killing yourself or act as a madman with no recollection of the experience, which will then serve as an excuse for an investigation where they seize all evidence (your research).

I'm very sorry, but this sounds like a textbook psychotic episode. I had one too in which I had delusions that I'm being mind-controlled through subliminal messaging from my phone as well (which was pretty wonky because I indeed was using subliminals from my phone, haha, which had me all confused and I actually started believing in it. I can laugh about it now, but it was a harrowing experience at the time, I very nearly offed myself in the course of it).

I would highly recommend seeking psychiatric treatment for psychosis. People with untreated psychosis can be a danger to themselves and other people.
(08-17-2024, 01:06 PM)Vehe Wrote: [ -> ](All kinds of stuff)


Wow. I read your first post and I had an extremely strong vibe of you being very manipulative, but this second post is completely crazy.

I don't know what you're trying to do, whether it's to get people to your own subliminals or to brag to (who you somehow think) impressionable people who can't tell utter, complete made up bullshit from reality or what it is. But I can only imagine the amount of damage you would do to somebody who doesn't know any better and asks you for 'advice' or to use your subliminals with all of this stuff you've written here.

Plus underlying tones of then you suggesting that we should manipulate people and 'brainwash' them.. which is simply an extension of something that you are projecting from your own issues.

Plus there are no orders under your email, which I actually expected would be the case before I looked.

I'm taking it that further step and banning you from the forum after I read the post, this is not the kind of vibe needed on the forum at all.
(08-19-2024, 12:51 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-19-2024, 12:23 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Do you think it would be better if I avoided giving unsolicited advice in your journal? I feel like some things can be valuable coming from a customers perspective, but I might be ignoring etiquette. I’d rather not give advice if it’s not productive.

Advice is as welcome as it is helpful and useful.  What I don't want is people advising things that are potentially harmful or damaging.  It's not about etiquette, it's about the goal of this forum, which is to be helpful.

To follow up from Shannon most people giving some kind of advice.. if they have a good baseline of experience and success in something is fine.

The issue with Vehe is it wasn't 'advice' it was just him talking himself up about who he apparently knows, how amazing he is and such to try to get followers (or so it seems).

The other issue i've had here is guys going everywhere and giving advice on things they know nothing about. Like without naming names (but you will know who I mean) a couple of members in the past literally writing novels of advice on how to meet women... and they literally had not EVER seen a real life vagina. Roflmao 

But generally it's fine, like your experience with subliminals, what you've learnt from it, or something you're well versed in.
(08-19-2024, 12:51 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-19-2024, 12:23 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon Do you think it would be better if I avoided giving unsolicited advice in your journal? I feel like some things can be valuable coming from a customers perspective, but I might be ignoring etiquette. I’d rather not give advice if it’s not productive.

Advice is as welcome as it is helpful and useful.  What I don't want is people advising things that are potentially harmful or damaging.  It's not about etiquette, it's about the goal of this forum, which is to be helpful.



(08-19-2024, 05:32 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-19-2024, 12:51 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Advice is as welcome as it is helpful and useful.  What I don't want is people advising things that are potentially harmful or damaging.  It's not about etiquette, it's about the goal of this forum, which is to be helpful.

To follow up from Shannon most people giving some kind of advice.. if they have a good baseline of experience and success in something is fine.

The issue with Vehe is it wasn't 'advice' it was just him talking himself up about who he apparently knows, how amazing he is and such to try to get followers (or so it seems).

The other issue i've had here is guys going everywhere and giving advice on things they know nothing about. Like without naming names (but you will know who I mean) a couple of members in the past literally writing novels of advice on how to meet women... and they literally had not EVER seen a real life vagina. Roflmao 

But generally it's fine, like your experience with subliminals, what you've learnt from it, or something you're well versed in.

@Benjamin I think I know who you mean lol. Man the forum was a different place in those years.

Thanks for clearing that up guys  Thumbsup If I’m ever out of line just let me know.