Subliminal Talk

(05-01-2024, 05:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-01-2024, 01:37 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote: [ -> ]I can recommend listening to Gabor Mate for your research, famous trauma psychologist, that claims that add and ADHD is basically a coping mechanism to some kind of trauma or inability for emoti8nal regulation. 

https://drgabormate.com/adhd/

Interesting.  I haven't seen Gabor, but I have come to a conclusion through my own research and experiments that very strongly agrees with that assessment, although I believe there is potentially something else that is significant also.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I wouldn't go near Gabor anymore, he lost the plot spouting certain damaging idealogies which makes him untrustworthy. The best resource i've found for trauma by far is Irene Lyon.

(05-02-2024, 05:44 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-01-2024, 05:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting.  I haven't seen Gabor, but I have come to a conclusion through my own research and experiments that very strongly agrees with that assessment, although I believe there is potentially something else that is significant also.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I wouldn't go near Gabor anymore, he lost the plot spouting certain damaging idealogies which makes him untrustworthy. The best resource i've found for trauma by far is Irene Lyon.

Could you share with me what he have said that made you change your mind about him?

(05-01-2024, 05:21 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-01-2024, 08:07 AM)tmp17 Wrote: [ -> ]How to get the best out of DMSI. i have been using the hybrid trickling sound flac for a month for around 5-6 loops overnight and sometimes 1-2 loops in daytime. i do 6 days on and 1 day off. I play it in the phone with earphones, the volume is something easily hearable sound but not too high.



I do see some results but want to get some tips and ideas from Shannon and the community. Of what best works and so on. And how to optimize the usage and get the best out of it.

It sounds like you're not following the directions too closely.  Are those settings you chose because you believed them to be AutoConfig, or because you wanted Moar Power!, or because you were afraid the instructions weren't enough or what?  If you haven't used the instructed settings, that's a great place to start.

Quote:Would appreciate if people can share. thanks.





I have used OFv4 for around 5-6 mths in the past.



I think i have read most of the DMSI threads. I don't feel tired or exhausted or hungry or so. though i don't eat much including skipping breakfast. Nor do i hardly get any dreams or so. Which i used to get in OFv4. Based on the older version journals, i wonder if the older versions were more powerful or unrestrictive or so.

So I'm guessing this is DMSI v3.5?  One thing about it is it uses a lot of energy when you are executing, and it will make you eat more frequently if that is the case.  If you're not executing, and you're using Hybrid and that many hours/days on to days off, then it's likely you're overloading your subconscious and you need to back off to a less aggressive format and or less time and days on.  What were your usage patterns before you started using Hybrid?

Quote:Another question i have is many times i feel should i go for AM6 before running more of DMSI to build the foundation or run DMSI for like 6 mths and then switch to AM6. I am concerned that even if things work out, if i don't have a strong foundation the results will be still temporary. At the same time i feel tempted to keep running DMSI .  OR if i should think of X4A-1511/2000.

If you're having trouble running and executing DMSI, then don't even think about running a Premium aphrodisiac like X4A-2000.  You're not ready for it.  AM6 is a good way to do a foundation for DMSI, but I think you'd probably benefit from a foundation for AM6, and for that I would recommend EHPRA v6 and/or OGSF v2. 

Then if you want to see if you've made progress with DMSI or X4A-1511 (which is designed to be easier to execute than DMSI 3.5 and earlier) try that and decide if you think you need more time on OGSF v2 or EHPR v6.  Whichever of those two is the more challenging for you to run is going to be the one you need the most.

Quote:I am looking for longer term results so happy to wait if needed. i am more inclined to know whether i am in the right track or how things are going.



Wonder when newer version of AM6 will be released with new technology.

AM7 is a multi-stager in 6G and 6G is still in development.  It's going to take a lot of time to translate from 5G because the tech levels and scripting methods are so vastly different, and it's also a multi-stage, meaning it will probably require 4+ months for me to build.  If I manage to get 6G finished and begin verification testing in 3-4 months, and then verification testing takes 2-4 months, then we are looking at 5 to 8 months before I am ready to build and publish the first publicly accessible 6G which will be the free Absolute Self Confidence.  That'll take 2-4 weeks.

THEN I'll start working on AM v7, and it will probably need 4 to 6 months.

So we can estimate that AM7 will be published approximately 13 to 15 months from now.  June of 2025 or later.  Presuming I don't publish each stage as I build it, in which case Stage 1 would likely be out around March of 2025.

I am historically and notoriously bad at estimating these things even in the short term, so take this with a block of salt.  Could be signifcant error in either direction from what I estimated.

Thanks Shannon for your detailed response and advice. You are right that i am not following the instructions closely.

i am somewhat confused with the instructions. In the beginning it says use one loop -> "Play this program 1 loop per day on, 4 days on, 1 day off".

Later it says "or you don't know what you respond better to:

"Start with Ultrasonic Format, 2 loops per day on.  Do one ASRB2 cycle of that (4 days on, 1 day off). Increase the number of loops per day on by +1 per ASRB2 cycle until you start getting results.  The maximum loops per day you should go to is 9."



It was not clear. for OFv4 i was always using hybrid so i started with Hybrid. Also i don't know what i response better to. As the loops instructions were not clear i started with overnight 5-6 loops for 4 days ON and 1 day off. Then after 2 cycles i could not feel much difference like how others were seeing (hunger, etc) and i felt that either autoconfig was urging me or i was myself thinking that i am not doing enough and need more power so i started full force for 6 days ON and 1 day OFF.



Anyways please advise me how do i go ahead:
1 loop per day. 4 days ON and 1 day OFF
2 loops per day and increase 1 loop per day upto (9 loops. 4 days ON and 1 day OFF)



Yes, i am using DMSI v 3.5. "Execution" what exactly is that. I was of the impression that when the sub is running the program is executing.

How would i know if the DMSI sub is executing properly or not?

I thought the subconscious is very powerful so overloading is not possible


Being somewhat a nice guy, i think i lack the domination part. So i am wondering and would be very interesting to know how would an emotion/healing management sub like EHPRA v6 and/or OGSF v2 help in place of AM6. I might have some emotional issues but generally i feel i am ok with the emotional mgmt space. From both OGSF v2 or EHPR v6 which would be better for me?


if i have to choose 1 among these 2 which one would you recommend I choose.
OGSF v2 or EHPR v6.

Interesting to know more about AM7 with 6G but seems this is long time to go.

Does MEv3 have the auto config thing where we adjust the number of loops per day if we feel the subconscious urge to? Or no, and it’s kept at 1 loop per day specifically permanently for this program?

(05-01-2024, 11:53 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@tmp17 Not Shannon, but I’ve used a lot of subliminals from 5G - 5.11G. I don’t recommend going below 5.75G if you can help it. Something like OGSF2 or EHPRA6 would be better than AM6 for laying a foundation for you.

Hi Frosted, 

thanks for your recommendations. Agree that the old technologies might be slow. Just curious why would you recommend OGSF2 or EHPRA6 to replace a more masculine type of AM6. Though I understand/presume that AM6 is older version.

(05-04-2024, 12:45 AM)tmp17 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-01-2024, 11:53 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@tmp17 Not Shannon, but I’ve used a lot of subliminals from 5G - 5.11G. I don’t recommend going below 5.75G if you can help it. Something like OGSF2 or EHPRA6 would be better than AM6 for laying a foundation for you.

Hi Frosted, 

thanks for your recommendations. Agree that the old technologies might be slow. Just curious why would you recommend OGSF2 or EHPRA6 to replace a more masculine type of AM6. Though I understand/presume that AM6 is older version.

Because OGSF2 and EPHRA6 are focusing on the roots. OGSF2 and EPHRA6 release you from your self imposed emotional limits. Older versions of OGSF and EPHRA are contained within AM6. Think of OGSF and EHPRA as part of the AM6 machine. They clear out the way for the AM6 machine to be able to function properly.


Man I don’t feel like I explained this very well sorry haha. Shannon would be better at it.

(05-04-2024, 11:49 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-04-2024, 12:45 AM)tmp17 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Frosted, 

thanks for your recommendations. Agree that the old technologies might be slow. Just curious why would you recommend OGSF2 or EHPRA6 to replace a more masculine type of AM6. Though I understand/presume that AM6 is older version.

Because OGSF2 and EPHRA6 are focusing on the roots. OGSF2 and EPHRA6 release you from your self imposed emotional limits. Older versions of OGSF and EPHRA are contained within AM6. Think of OGSF and EHPRA as part of the AM6 machine. They clear out the way for the AM6 machine to be able to function properly.


Man I don’t feel like I explained this very well sorry haha. Shannon would be better at it.

Hi Frosted, 

Thanks for clarifying. No worries. i will wait and see what Shanon has to say.

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@Shannon How is 6g development going?

(05-07-2024, 10:42 AM)StridingStrider Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon How is 6g development going?

Slowly.  I am currently working my way through the entire skeleton script, one statement at a time, optimizing each one and bringing them all up to the latest technological standards for scripting. This step is the slowest, and I will be doing this step for a while, then moving on to something else in the list of changes that need to be made, then coming back to this so I don't burn out on it.  There are three or four other steps that still need to be addressed yet.  Work is ongoing, surely and steadily.  It is a huge amount of time and effort to get the skeleton script from where it was in 5.11G to where it needs to be in 6G, but when I am finished, it will definitely be worth all the time, effort and frustration this process requires of me.

(05-06-2024, 11:02 AM)London1 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
I've done 6 cycles of E6 according to the instructions on the sales page and i've noticed absolutely 0 difference in terms of my stuttering, self esteem, confidence, feelings of severe fear/social anxiety, social awkwardness, mental speed,  etc. Basically no difference emotionally/mentally. Its very tough.
What do you suggest I try?

I need to know how you are using the program.  Volume, loops per day on, days on, days off, what you're using to play it, and if you have stayed with the instructions or strayed from them trying to use AutoConfig.  I also need to know what you have experienced as a result of using the program.

(05-04-2024, 11:49 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-04-2024, 12:45 AM)tmp17 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Frosted, 

thanks for your recommendations. Agree that the old technologies might be slow. Just curious why would you recommend OGSF2 or EHPRA6 to replace a more masculine type of AM6. Though I understand/presume that AM6 is older version.

Because OGSF2 and EPHRA6 are focusing on the roots. OGSF2 and EPHRA6 release you from your self imposed emotional limits. Older versions of OGSF and EPHRA are contained within AM6. Think of OGSF and EHPRA as part of the AM6 machine. They clear out the way for the AM6 machine to be able to function properly.


Man I don’t feel like I explained this very well sorry haha. Shannon would be better at it.

To be specific, OGSF didn't exist as a separate program when AM6 was created.  It has in it EHPRA v1.  The goal was to make it possible for AM to execute by helping you process and clear out emotional baggage and traumas that would otherwise hold you back.  Naturally, OGSF has come a long way since 2011 when AM6 was released.  OGSF is also useful which is why I created a separate title to focus on it.

(05-03-2024, 11:28 PM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ]Does MEv3 have the auto config thing where we adjust the number of loops per day if we feel the subconscious urge to? Or no, and it’s kept at 1 loop per day specifically permanently for this program?

It does have AutoConfig, but you should only try to use it that way if you are absolutely sure that it's AutoConfig executing and your subconscious is trying to guide you.

(05-03-2024, 08:17 AM)tmp17 Wrote: [ -> ]

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It sounds like you're not following the directions too closely.  Are those settings you chose because you believed them to be AutoConfig, or because you wanted Moar Power!, or because you were afraid the instructions weren't enough or what?  If you haven't used the instructed settings, that's a great place to start.







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So I'm guessing this is DMSI v3.5?  One thing about it is it uses a lot of energy when you are executing, and it will make you eat more frequently if that is the case.  If you're not executing, and you're using Hybrid and that many hours/days on to days off, then it's likely you're overloading your subconscious and you need to back off to a less aggressive format and or less time and days on.  What were your usage patterns before you started using Hybrid?











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If you're having trouble running and executing DMSI, then don't even think about running a Premium aphrodisiac like X4A-2000.  You're not ready for it.  AM6 is a good way to do a foundation for DMSI, but I think you'd probably benefit from a foundation for AM6, and for that I would recommend EHPRA v6 and/or OGSF v2. 



Then if you want to see if you've made progress with DMSI or X4A-1511 (which is designed to be easier to execute than DMSI 3.5 and earlier) try that and decide if you think you need more time on OGSF v2 or EHPR v6.  Whichever of those two is the more challenging for you to run is going to be the one you need the most.













AM7 is a multi-stager in 6G and 6G is still in development.  It's going to take a lot of time to translate from 5G because the tech levels and scripting methods are so vastly different, and it's also a multi-stage, meaning it will probably require 4+ months for me to build.  If I manage to get 6G finished and begin verification testing in 3-4 months, and then verification testing takes 2-4 months, then we are looking at 5 to 8 months before I am ready to build and publish the first publicly accessible 6G which will be the free Absolute Self Confidence.  That'll take 2-4 weeks.



THEN I'll start working on AM v7, and it will probably need 4 to 6 months.



So we can estimate that AM7 will be published approximately 13 to 15 months from now.  June of 2025 or later.  Presuming I don't publish each stage as I build it, in which case Stage 1 would likely be out around March of 2025.



I am historically and notoriously bad at estimating these things even in the short term, so take this with a block of salt.  Could be signifcant error in either direction from what I estimated.

Thanks Shannon for your detailed response and advice. You are right that i am not following the instructions closely.



i am somewhat confused with the instructions. In the beginning it says use one loop -> "Play this program 1 loop per day on, 4 days on, 1 day off".



Later it says "or you don't know what you respond better to:



"Start with Ultrasonic Format, 2 loops per day on.  Do one ASRB2 cycle of that (4 days on, 1 day off). Increase the number of loops per day on by +1 per ASRB2 cycle until you start getting results.  The maximum loops per day you should go to is 9."







It was not clear. for OFv4 i was always using hybrid so i started with Hybrid. Also i don't know what i response better to. As the loops instructions were not clear i started with overnight 5-6 loops for 4 days ON and 1 day off. Then after 2 cycles i could not feel much difference like how others were seeing (hunger, etc) and i felt that either autoconfig was urging me or i was myself thinking that i am not doing enough and need more power so i started full force for 6 days ON and 1 day OFF.







Anyways please advise me how do i go ahead:

1 loop per day. 4 days ON and 1 day OFF

2 loops per day and increase 1 loop per day upto (9 loops. 4 days ON and 1 day OFF)

I will have to make the instructions simpler.  Use 1 loop per day. 4 days ON and 1 day OFF.

Quote:Yes, i am using DMSI v 3.5. "Execution" what exactly is that. I was of the impression that when the sub is running the program is executing.



How would i know if the DMSI sub is executing properly or not?

Execution is what happens when your subconscious accepots the instructions in the script, and then does what is necessary to make them true.  Similar to executing instructions in a computer program after the program has been written and translated into machine language, and the computer is told to "run" it. 

For example, if the instruction is to project an aura that causes the people you want to have sex with to become sexually aroused and try to initiate sex with you, your subconscious has the option of accepting and executing that instruction, which would result in you projecting that aura and tuning it to achieve that goal, or rejecting it.  Rejection is what the subconscious will do when it fears the instruction or the result of executing the instruction, and it results in what we call "resistance".  That resistance can take many forms, but the goal is to not execute the instruction given in the subliminal.  Amazingly, after tracing the root cause of the resistance attempts, it always comes back to one single reason for refusing to execute.  Some part of your subconscious genuinely believes that by executing that instruction, it/you will literally die as a result.  This is absolutely preposterous, but it's the truth.  The deep subconscious, where this response originates from, has no concept of logic or reason.  It cannot differentiate between what is merely imagined and what is experienced by the conscious mind as "real".  So a lot of guys refuse to execute AMv6 (for example) because at a deep subconscious level they are convinced that someone will literally kill them if they do.   

Quote:I thought the subconscious is very powerful so overloading is not possible

The subconscious is in fact very powerful.  That doesn't mean that it does not have bottlenecks, like the ears, the brain and the nervous system.  If the ears cannot pass the information to the brain because their limit of input is exceeded, then the input is limited at best, or at worst, may become garbled.  If the brain is fed too much data too fast it can become overloaded on a physical, chemical and or electrical level.  If the instructions are telling your subconscious to do two contradictory things, it can cause problems regardless of how powerful and capable it happens to be, should it attempt to actually do those contradictory things.  And so forth.

Quote:Being somewhat a nice guy, i think i lack the domination part. So i am wondering and would be very interesting to know how would an emotion/healing management sub like EHPRA v6 and/or OGSF v2 help in place of AM6. I might have some emotional issues but generally i feel i am ok with the emotional mgmt space. From both OGSF v2 or EHPR v6 which would be better for me?

"Nice guy", almost by definition, tends to lack certain factors that are required to be an alpha, and those usually include self respect, self esteem and sense of self worth, as well as solid boundaries.  Changing those things is a very scary prospect for most guys who start off as "nice guys" because it puts them into conflict with people and institutions, and they may not know how to handle said conflict or the consequences.

Emotional healing can help with those fears, but it's only going to make AM6 easier to execute, not do everything for you, because AM6 is doing something different than EHPRA or OGSF is.

Quote:if i have to choose 1 among these 2 which one would you recommend I choose.

OGSF v2 or EHPR v6.

If you're having trouble executing AM6, then I suggest a run-through of OGSF v2 may be very useful.  Both can help, but unless there's a lot of emotional issues in general, OGSF v2 is likely the better choice.

Quote:Interesting to know more about AM7 with 6G but seems this is long time to go.

There is a lot of work left to do on 6G before I can even think about digging up the old AM6 script and starting to develop he program goals for v7 and revise and upgrade the script.  



Here's what I can tell you as of now:

1. AMv7 will not be designed to integrate any transition to any other program into it, as AM6 did with SM/WM in Stage 6.  v7 is going to be 100% focused on making the user as alpha as possible.
   
2. AMv7 is going to integrate EHPRA vLatest and/or OGSF vLatest in Stage 1.
   
3. AMv7 is going to be absolutely hardcore, brutal and merciless in achieving its goals.  There will be no excuses or bullshit accepted or allowed.  You will face your demons, and you will EAT THEM ALIVE.  It will be a steel toed boot straight up your ass, over and over, and a good time will be had by NOBODY, no matter how alpha they think they are when they start.  Boot camp isn't supposed to be fun, it is supposed to break you down and reforge you into something exceptional, successful and effective.  That is what AMv7 is going to be designed to do.  You will suffer and you will go through Hell, and IF you come out the other side of this program, you will either be an ascended alpha or you will know that you need to do a lot of work on yourself still to be able to handle the ass-kickery that is this experience and become an ascended alpha.
   
4. Those who have purchased AMv6 at full price will get the ONLY discount that you will EVER see on a 6G program, which is a 50% discount because of a promise I made over a decade ago, which I will honor.  If you have not PURCHASED AM6, and have not done so at FULL PRICE, you will get NO discount.
   
5. That discount will likely be a limited time offer, which I will make clear in the announcement email for AMv7 if I decide to do that, maybe give a window of 30 or 90 days to claim it or something.