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(02-06-2025, 05:37 PM)Johannesbrst Wrote: [ -> ]I
(02-06-2025, 03:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I suggest you take 3 to 7 days off Maverick (as feels appropriate) and then pursue 2 months on OSC.  


In fact it does feel unreal.  I am rather confused as to what to do now, and the sudden change has been drastic.  I will need to learn now how to stop working constantly and start having a more balanced life.  But for now I'm going to spend a lot of time just sitting at the beach or in the woods enjoying the sounds and being still.

The second celebration - one of three - for finishing 6G is happening in just a half an hour.  I am going out to a high end hibachi restaurant, and I will have rare ahi tuna and scallops with fried rice and stir fried vegetables.

Perfect, then OSC it is. Looking forward to it. 

I can figure, I guess you'll have your hands full building out IML and starting to realize the potential value it now holds. Enjoy, sounds awesome!

The next major task ahead of me is to build out the entire program library in 6G.  I estimate that will take at least 2-3 years.  But even before I am finished, 6G could make me achieve the level of success I have been awaiting to begin working on the next phase of my Grand Plan. We shall see. Very good things are coming.
(02-06-2025, 05:41 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2025, 05:37 PM)Johannesbrst Wrote: [ -> ]I
Perfect, then OSC it is. Looking forward to it. 

I can figure, I guess you'll have your hands full building out IML and starting to realize the potential value it now holds. Enjoy, sounds awesome!


The next major task ahead of me is to build out the entire program library in 6G.  I estimate that will take at least 2-3 years.  But even before I am finished, 6G could make me achieve the level of success I have been awaiting to begin working on the next phase of my Grand Plan. We shall see. Very good things are coming.

Rooting for you! What format should we use for OSC? Didn't find anything about it in the product discription.
@Shannon you've probably gone over this before but can you elaborate on "why" we shouldn't go above the usage time indicated in the instructions? I'm running OED 5.11 at the recommended one loop right now and not feeling anything so I'm tempted to go over the recommended usage time. Especially when I eventually get to OSC 6G, I know I'll be tempted to do an hour to amplify the speed and impact of the subliminal working instead of the 20 mins. I'd like to better understand the downsides of doing this so I can hopefully deter myself and not trigger any detrimental effects.
(02-06-2025, 05:49 PM)Johannesbrst Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2025, 05:41 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The next major task ahead of me is to build out the entire program library in 6G.  I estimate that will take at least 2-3 years.  But even before I am finished, 6G could make me achieve the level of success I have been awaiting to begin working on the next phase of my Grand Plan. We shall see. Very good things are coming.

Rooting for you! What format should we use for OSC? Didn't find anything about it in the product discription.

Always default to Ultrasonic first; Masked if that doesn't work; and Hybrid if that doesn't work.  But I doubt many people will be needing anything other than Ultrasonic in 6G.
(02-06-2025, 01:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2025, 03:05 AM)Catman Wrote: [ -> ]Two other quick things...

1. "Instead, Optimal Self Confidence will get you to you develop..." slight fix on that.

2. The refund policy part at the bottom, obviously, due to it being free.

Amazing 20 min time, wow. Wonder why. LOL, if you spammed it 16+ hours a day, you'd be an arrogant bad boy gigachad god, hahaha. So funny. Ben Tate.

Optimal Self Confidence is called "optimal" because it is designed to prevent "too much confidence".  So it will never turn you into an arrogant gigachad god.  But spamming it like that might turn you into someone who really regrets having done that.  It is definitely 20 minutes for a reason.  There were no peaks that showed any value to achieving the goal past 30 minutes, and 20 minutes was by far the highest peak in the graph when I did the modeling.

I know you're joking, but again, we have an unusually high number of people who come through, ignore the instructions (or better, never bother to read them) and do all sorts of ridiculous things.  Especially if they're coming from a provider who is still using 1st or 2nd Gen tech, who needs you to listen for 16+ hours, or who has a significantly different usage pattern.  

You remember how hard it was for everyone to trust the guidance to stop doing 16+ hours a day when it dropped to 6-8?  And then down to 1?  With 6G as powerful as it is, and what is being dealt with in OSC, spamming it wouldn't be a good idea.  Spamming a 6G will never be a good idea, but in cases like this where fear and anxiety is being dealt with, even more.  So we have to be careful.  Your joke may be taken literally by someone who doesn't know better.

So autoconfig is completely gone for 6g and there's no time when we should listen more than specified? Or does that depend on the program too?

I'm still sticking to PM, but i'm definately curious. All the OSC journals popping up will challenge me. Roflmao
(02-06-2025, 05:56 PM)Vasil Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon you've probably gone over this before but can you elaborate on "why" we shouldn't go above the usage time indicated in the instructions? I'm running OED 5.11 at the recommended one loop right now and not feeling anything so I'm tempted to go over the recommended usage time. Especially when I eventually get to OSC 6G, I know I'll be tempted to do an hour to amplify the speed and impact of the subliminal working instead of the 20 mins. I'd like to better understand the downsides of doing this so I can hopefully deter myself and not trigger any detrimental effects.


5.11G and 6G are totally different worlds.  You will have a vastly different result going over the instructions in 5.11G vs 6G.  6G is multiple times more powerful and high impact.  It's so powerful that I could not build Absolute Self Confidence, because it would have gone too far.  Let that sink in.

You haven't even tried 6G.  You know nothing about it yet.  You're making a lot of assumptions to be asking this.  Which of my subliminals have you used, beside OED?
(02-06-2025, 06:15 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2025, 01:55 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Optimal Self Confidence is called "optimal" because it is designed to prevent "too much confidence".  So it will never turn you into an arrogant gigachad god.  But spamming it like that might turn you into someone who really regrets having done that.  It is definitely 20 minutes for a reason.  There were no peaks that showed any value to achieving the goal past 30 minutes, and 20 minutes was by far the highest peak in the graph when I did the modeling.

I know you're joking, but again, we have an unusually high number of people who come through, ignore the instructions (or better, never bother to read them) and do all sorts of ridiculous things.  Especially if they're coming from a provider who is still using 1st or 2nd Gen tech, who needs you to listen for 16+ hours, or who has a significantly different usage pattern.  

You remember how hard it was for everyone to trust the guidance to stop doing 16+ hours a day when it dropped to 6-8?  And then down to 1?  With 6G as powerful as it is, and what is being dealt with in OSC, spamming it wouldn't be a good idea.  Spamming a 6G will never be a good idea, but in cases like this where fear and anxiety is being dealt with, even more.  So we have to be careful.  Your joke may be taken literally by someone who doesn't know better.

So autoconfig is completely gone for 6g and there's no time when we should listen more than specified? Or does that depend on the program too?

I'm still sticking to PM, but i'm definately curious. All the OSC journals popping up will challenge me. Roflmao

Unless and until I say otherwise, follow the instructions exactly on 6G programs.  This is not something you have seen before.
Let's say I want to use this playlist every night when I go to sleep
  1. 1 hour silent track
  2. 1 hour silent track
  3. OSC (20 min)
  4. DRS 6G
  5. DRS 6G

The only problem I see is the recommended volume. I have an IPhone, so:
- Recommended volume for OSC is 10/16
- Recommended volume for DRSv2 is 6/16

So what would be my best approach..... 8/16 (the middle)???

This is just an example, but it's a general question about combining 6G subliminals with different suggested volumes.

Thank you.
(02-07-2025, 12:13 AM)Bignoise Wrote: [ -> ]Let's say I want to use this playlist every night when I go to sleep
  1. 1 hour silent track
  2. 1 hour silent track
  3. OSC (20 min)
  4. DRS 6G
  5. DRS 6G

The only problem I see is the recommended volume. I have an IPhone, so:
- Recommended volume for OSC is 10/16
- Recommended volume for DRSv2 is 6/16

So what would be my best approach..... 8/16 (the middle)???

This is just an example, but it's a general question about combining 6G subliminals with different suggested volumes.

Thank you.

Maybe run OSC while awake (only 20 minutes) and run DRS while asleep?  Both at the correct volume.  I've also thought about this but there's probably no way to play the 2 programs back to back with the big difference in volumes - especially while asleep.
(02-07-2025, 12:13 AM)Bignoise Wrote: [ -> ]Let's say I want to use this playlist every night when I go to sleep
  1. 1 hour silent track
  2. 1 hour silent track
  3. OSC (20 min)
  4. DRS 6G
  5. DRS 6G

The only problem I see is the recommended volume. I have an IPhone, so:
- Recommended volume for OSC is 10/16
- Recommended volume for DRSv2 is 6/16

So what would be my best approach..... 8/16 (the middle)???

This is just an example, but it's a general question about combining 6G subliminals with different suggested volumes.

Thank you.

I asked gpt it says you can do it with apples app called “Shortcut”
(02-06-2025, 01:56 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2025, 08:21 AM)StridingStrider Wrote: [ -> ]Does OSC have FRM?


No.  FRM in 6G is actually overkill for what this program is trying to achieve.

If you have a fear that is related to being self confident, will the program permanently remove it, without FRM?
(02-07-2025, 12:13 AM)Bignoise Wrote: [ -> ]Let's say I want to use this playlist every night when I go to sleep
  1. 1 hour silent track
  2. 1 hour silent track
  3. OSC (20 min)
  4. DRS 6G
  5. DRS 6G

The only problem I see is the recommended volume. I have an IPhone, so:
- Recommended volume for OSC is 10/16
- Recommended volume for DRSv2 is 6/16

So what would be my best approach..... 8/16 (the middle)???

This is just an example, but it's a general question about combining 6G subliminals with different suggested volumes.

Thank you.

Why do you think these volumes are recommended?  If they were only "recommendations", it would not be necessary for me to spend so much time and energy figuring them out to that level of specificity.  These are not recommendations.  That is the volume at which they should be used.

If you cannot be around to adjust the volume, then use one while you're awake, and play the other after you adjust the volume while you're sleeping.  They don't necessarily need to be played back to back.
(02-07-2025, 10:14 AM)StridingStrider Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2025, 01:56 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]No.  FRM in 6G is actually overkill for what this program is trying to achieve.

If you have a fear that is related to being self confident, will the program permanently remove it, without FRM?

Have I had time to see results that would allow me to give you an answer to that question while being honest?
(02-06-2025, 07:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2025, 05:56 PM)Vasil Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon you've probably gone over this before but can you elaborate on "why" we shouldn't go above the usage time indicated in the instructions? I'm running OED 5.11 at the recommended one loop right now and not feeling anything so I'm tempted to go over the recommended usage time. Especially when I eventually get to OSC 6G, I know I'll be tempted to do an hour to amplify the speed and impact of the subliminal working instead of the 20 mins. I'd like to better understand the downsides of doing this so I can hopefully deter myself and not trigger any detrimental effects.


5.11G and 6G are totally different worlds.  You will have a vastly different result going over the instructions in 5.11G vs 6G.  6G is multiple times more powerful and high impact.  It's so powerful that I could not build Absolute Self Confidence, because it would have gone too far.  Let that sink in.

You haven't even tried 6G.  You know nothing about it yet.  You're making a lot of assumptions to be asking this.  Which of my subliminals have you used, beside OED?

I've used many: AOL, ASC original, OED 5G and 5.11, OF, X4A 1000, DMSI, and quite a few others. OED 5G was actually the one that sold me on your programs, since after a couple of months of heavy use I started getting unmistakable physical effects that could not have been placebo. Problem was I couldn't listen 10+ hours a day indefinitely and the effects faded when off the program. What I noticed was that with your 5G subs, I got results when spamming the program 10 hours a day for sufficiently long periods of time. Unfortunately, I have not gotten the intended results with any of the 5G+ gen programs I've used (MHS, MLS, OF, DMSI, X4A, and others). I've continued to try new programs to see if maybe the lack of results could be chalked up to resistance towards specific goals, but had no luck. Given that these 5G+ programs had very specific instructions, I can't help but wonder if the reason I'm not seeing good results is that whatever configuration of volume and loops is needed for me isn't aligned with the general recommendation, hence the temptation to experiment by using more loops than recommended when I eventually get to OSC and DRS 6G.