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@Shannon I didn’t know it was like that. I was just thinking more like aura of love + X4A, not some love mind control sub lol.
(09-06-2024, 01:24 AM)RezzyForHumanity Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-05-2024, 09:04 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]X4A is a very complex and intricate key script, and each statement is specifically designed and tuned for achieving a specific facet of causing the primary goal of that program to happen.  I cannot just do a find/replace to change the word sex to love, for example.  The entire script would have to be built from scratch, which would not be a simple thing.

I am guessing you want something that effectively causes people to fall in love with you?  If that is the case, I cannot do that for moral and ethical reasons.  It's one thing to induce sexual arousal, but it's another entirely to induce specific feelings, especially love.  Sexual arousal leaves room for choosing what to do about it.  But inducing specific emotional responses in the direction you seem to be requesting is essentially directly manipulating one or more types and levels of awareness to think/feel a specific thing, which is taking away free will.

This is why I made Aura of Love.  It causes you to be flooded with and project unlimited, unconditional love, but it is not a specific type of love, and it is not attempting to induce any specific emotional state in anyone else. 

The highest priority I consider when I make my subliminals is safety.  Then comes free will.  I know it is popular in some circles to take the deterministic view and claim that we don't have free will, but that just points to a lack of understanding of the brain/mind interface and how we function at a subconscious level.  Free will is incredibly important, and I will never ever knowingly or willingly violate personal free will with my subliminals.

So I can do Aura of Love upgrades, but a love based version of X4A will unfortunately not work.

To give you a little more insight, sexual arousal is experienced by the lizard brain and it is tied to the reproductive instincts.  The lizard brain understands very few things: Feed me, fuck me, make sure I am safe, and give me sufficient shelter.  That's about it, as far as I know so far.  But emotions are the primary means of thinking and experiencing the world for at least one of the parts of your subconscious mind, and probably three or more.  Like the conscious mind thinks in logical, rational and word-based ways, the subconscious thinks and experiences the world through emotions and symbols. 

Triggering sexual arousal is influencing the lizard brain, but not controlling what the person thinks and how they respond.  But because emotions are effectively the thinking and communication style of one or more parts of the mind, and they are easily manipulated (because they are not logical or rational) it is very important not to manipulate them.  Free will must be granted.

If this was not the case, I could have been done developing 6th Gen technology about 12 years ago.

Hi Shannon. I'm really grateful that you can share your thought, idea, and your goodness on your creation.

I understand what you are afraid of.

What I really mean and what people really need, is Self-Love. When they can love themselves unconditionally, they can love the world unconditionally too. The rest will follow. It also work on other people too. That's how we grow. As within, so without. As inside, as outside. As above, so below. As the soul, as tthe universe.

At first, I really respect and admire about what you want about the safety and the free will. And yes, I support 100% about what you want.

In this world, all people need growth. We need to send out positivity, so that we receive the positivity too. Otherwise, all of it will be in vain and there will be no progress. We are all reflection in this world. When you grow, people grow. So do I. And actually, people really need the growth too. That's how we help them and share the goodness.

Energy is cotagious. I'm a reflection of evveryone, and everyone  is a rreflection of myself. 

I never really think about manipulation and negativity, because what we send out to the world is really matter. I choose positivity because that'll make me go higher and help people too. 

You might want to think about this, and honestly it will make you grow too. You will remember about what I said. That's about the goodness that we send out to the world, and we receice the goodness from the world. As we are all connected, we are one. Peace.

Much love to you  Heart

Developing and enhancing self love is good stuff.  I'm glad you weren't going in a negative direction.
(09-06-2024, 10:55 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I didn’t know it was like that. I was just thinking more like aura of love + X4A, not some love mind control sub lol.

That is good to hear.  However, take a moment to think about this.  An aphrodisiac triggers sexual arousal in the lizard brain, which is then noticed, interpreted and responded to by the conscious and higher subconscious minds.  

If we add in an aura of love, however, even if it is non-specific love, this combination of arousal and love is likely to be interpreted in a way by the emotional subconscious that results in the person effectively concluding they must be falling in love with you, which would then be caused to happen by that belief.  And again... we don't want that.
(09-06-2024, 05:12 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-06-2024, 10:55 AM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I didn’t know it was like that. I was just thinking more like aura of love + X4A, not some love mind control sub lol.

That is good to hear.  However, take a moment to think about this.  An aphrodisiac triggers sexual arousal in the lizard brain, which is then noticed, interpreted and responded to by the conscious and higher subconscious minds.  

If we add in an aura of love, however, even if it is non-specific love, this combination of arousal and love is likely to be interpreted in a way by the emotional subconscious that results in the person effectively concluding they must be falling in love with you, which would then be caused to happen by that belief.  And again... we don't want that.

See, this is why you get paid the big bucks.
(09-07-2024, 12:04 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-06-2024, 05:12 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]That is good to hear.  However, take a moment to think about this.  An aphrodisiac triggers sexual arousal in the lizard brain, which is then noticed, interpreted and responded to by the conscious and higher subconscious minds.  

If we add in an aura of love, however, even if it is non-specific love, this combination of arousal and love is likely to be interpreted in a way by the emotional subconscious that results in the person effectively concluding they must be falling in love with you, which would then be caused to happen by that belief.  And again... we don't want that.

See, this is why you get paid the big bucks.

In other hand, I like how Shannon puts the intention, so people won't misused it (Besides if you still want your wish, you can try other creators, because that's Shannon's free will, and the options for having a subconscious creator are endless.

I understand that everything has a negative or positive side, but it all comes back to his choice, and beyond that, consumers can also choose to use his work or someone else's, because in reality we continue to evolve. Who is left behind, others are ready to continue to advance.

The world does not end here if one or two people choose a certain choice, because life and development will continue to increase and increase, we cannot stop the progress of time. That is the nature of life. This does not only happen in the world of subconscious messages, but also in the world of technology, and everything. Again, when we give our best, the best will come back to us, because we continue to move forward to explore the world.

Evolution cannot be stopped.
It's not about evolution. It's about not allowing myself and my work to be used as a vector for potential harm. My overall goal is to make the world a better place.
This is for Shannon only...

Why recommend subs to be played over phone speakers and not via wired headphones? Just thinking about it...less noise from the outside world interfering with the sub, the sound is more focused and you're hearing it better....so unless i'm missing something I just don't see how playing the subs over phone speakers can be in any way better than with wired headphones (wired not bluetooth).

Unless the recommendation is just for practical purposes (not having to be with headphones for hours per day listening).

I'm just curious which one is better or if both are the same or if in reality wired headphones are better but the impact difference is about the same and just not as practical.

I will say that from listening to a sub with headphones that takes just one hour of listening time per day I was getting headaches and my brain was just feeling really tired. Shannon's subs are definitely powerful and the experience makes me think i'm missing out in terms of impact by not listening to my subs over headphones. Obviously i'll be listening to the sub at a lower volume next time so hopefully it goes smoother and also my brain gets used to it.

But I did listen to it with my headphones at the same volume that I play it over the phone speakers and the after effects where much more powerful. It really felt like a ton of information was being processed and I was just feeling weird all day.
(09-05-2024, 12:11 PM)London1 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
I'm finding it difficult to get 4 loops of E6 in uninterrupted, plus I'm not noticing a lot. It's been about a month.

I'm thinking of switching to hybrid but doing just one loop (an hour) and see what happens from there.
What do you say about that?

@Shannon
I think you missed my post
(09-09-2024, 09:34 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about evolution.  It's about not allowing myself and my work to be used as a vector for potential harm.  My overall goal is to make the world a better place.

I enjoyed listening to your explanation, Shannon, and I understand more now. And I support your good intentions about it.

Shannon, would you think that you would create subliminals for eye disorders, such as myopia? or maybe also to change the color of the eyes to black, green, blue, or hazel? Thank you.
@Shannon I’m curious where the name “Indigo Mind Labs” came from and what it represents?
(09-09-2024, 12:27 PM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]This is for Shannon only...

Why recommend subs to be played over phone speakers and not via wired headphones? Just thinking about it...less noise from the outside world interfering with the sub, the sound is more focused and you're hearing it better....so unless i'm missing something I just don't see how playing the subs over phone speakers can be in any way better than with wired headphones (wired not bluetooth).

Unless the recommendation is just for practical purposes (not having to be with headphones for hours per day listening). 

I'm just curious which one is better or if both are the same or if in reality wired headphones are better but the impact difference is about the same and just not as practical.

I will say that from listening to a sub with headphones that takes just one hour of listening time per day I was getting headaches and my brain was just feeling really tired.  Shannon's subs are definitely powerful and the experience makes me think i'm missing out in terms of impact by not listening to my subs over headphones.  Obviously i'll be listening to the sub at a lower volume next time so hopefully it goes smoother and also my brain gets used to it.

But I did listen to it with my headphones at the same volume that I play it over the phone speakers and the after effects where much more powerful.  It really felt like a ton of information was being processed and I was just feeling weird all day.

The reasons we use a cell phone and play it through the speakers have been much discussed in the past, but I will detail it once again, and put it in the FAQ this time.

The more advanced and powerful the subliminals become, the more volume sensitive them become for whatever reason.  The ONLY way for me to know that you're hearing it at the intended volume is for you to have only one volume adjustment, and then make sure that what it is played through is the same as everyone else using it.  The only thing that works for this is a cell phone through the speakers.  This doesn't even work all the time, because the app being used to play it may have it's own volume control on top of that of the phone.  (In that case, ditch that app and use something that has no volume adjustments.)

Played through a headphone, the volume range differs between type of headphone (earbud, over the ear, resting on the ear), quality of headphone (cheaper is less volume) and some headphones have their own volume controls (again, very bad).  Furthermore, not everyone can use headphones, or the same kind of or quality of headphones, and some headphones are not wired.  This makes headphones entirely unsuitable for following the instructions, as you have discovered with headaches.  You are not missing out on anything by FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIONS.  I know what I am doing, and I created them.

The same volume setting from your cell phone speaker to a headphone is therefore effectively MUCH LOUDER through headphones, which is why you got the signs of overexposure (headaches and exhaustion).  You cannot use the same volume through cell phone speakers and headphones.  This difference in volume is much worsened if you try to use laptop speakers, and even more exacerbated by using external speakers.  FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS.

You will never have to worry about getting the full effects of a subliminal you listen to according to the instructions.  Ultrasonic format works just fine even in environments where the audible sounds are extremly loud because the pitch is different, so it acts as an entirely different input channel.  If you need to use Masked format, make sure you have a relatively quiet environment or wait until you do.  DO NOT USE HEAPHONES - EXPECIALLY WITH ULTRASONIC FORMAT!

Another reason we don't use headphones is because it is too easy to accidentally undervolume or overvolume the ultrasonic audio after even properly adjusting it and either get no results or potentially overloading your brain, triggering reversal resistance or even damaging your ears.

Furthermore, the INSTRUCTIONS are not recommendations.  I don't know how many times I have to tell you guys this.  They are the exact and very specific way that 98%+ of people are going to get the best possible results.  It takes me up to a week of modeling these figures to determine what the instructions should be, and that's a lot of time that I could be working in some other direction, so you know that the instructions, and FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS, is very important indeed.  "Recommendations" would take me all of 30 seconds to type out.  The INSTRUCTIONS are not recommended, they are specific and important information you need o know to not underexpose (little to no results) or overexpose (headaches, exhaustion) yourself and get the best results.

To recap:

Shannon knows what he's doing, and Shannon knows what he's talking about.  The INSTRUCTIONS are not suggestions or recommendations, and the ONLY time you don't follow them is if they don't work.  Then you ask Shannon how to proceed.  You NEVER use headphones because at best you don't know what volume to use and at worst you could cause damage to your hearing and overload your subconscious, potentially causing it to reverse the instructions or stonewall entirely, which means you spent that money and time to get NOTHING.  Ultrasonic format works just fine even in a dance club level volume situation.  You're not missing out on anything by FOLLOWING THE INSTRUCTIONS because SHANNON MADE THEM AND SHANNON KNOWS WHAT THE HELL HE'S DOING AND TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES  TO USING THEM.
(09-09-2024, 04:09 PM)London1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-05-2024, 12:11 PM)London1 Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon
I'm finding it difficult to get 4 loops of E6 in uninterrupted, plus I'm not noticing a lot. It's been about a month.

I'm thinking of switching to hybrid but doing just one loop (an hour) and see what happens from there.
What do you say about that?

@Shannon
I think you missed my post

I think that is why I don't model how to use the programs for individuals.  People rarely follow my instructions and instead they come up with easier things to do that never work.  Keep following the 4 loops of ultrasonic and report back in a month.
(09-09-2024, 05:28 PM)RezzyForHumanity Wrote: [ -> ]
(09-09-2024, 09:34 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]It's not about evolution.  It's about not allowing myself and my work to be used as a vector for potential harm.  My overall goal is to make the world a better place.

I enjoyed listening to your explanation, Shannon, and I understand more now. And I support your good intentions about it.

Shannon, would you think that you would create subliminals for eye disorders, such as myopia? or maybe also to change the color of the eyes to black, green, blue, or hazel? Thank you.

Eye disorders are either going to be helped by Optimal Physical Healing or it's likely not possible for the human body to fix given what is currently understood about the issue.

Eye color change is a genetic thing.  I can temporarily influence some types of iris colors but there are limits to what colors are possible, and in most cases, no change will happen.  That is the reality of the matter.
(09-09-2024, 10:16 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]@Shannon I’m curious where the name “Indigo Mind Labs” came from and what it represents?

Indigo Mind Labs came from Andrew and I trying to find a way to express a concept that we were trying to express.  Indigo is a color associated with deep knowledge and wisdom, and I work with the mind.  I work in a laboratory.  The concept was that the work I am doing is exceptional, and is based on a lot of research, experimentation and development, which results in unusual understanding, knowledge and wisdom regarding how to do this.  The research, experimentation and development never ends, so the expertise, understanding and depth of knowledge and skill is always increasing. 

Only several years later did I have someone claim that I am an "indigo adult" and therefore, I have an "Indigo Mind".  So if that is true, it would make sense that my lab is "Indigo Mind Labs".  I hadn't thought of that at that time.